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Haste on a Blue/White effect? Guess the color pie went out the window
Austin Evans
1st for gruul barbarian roleplay
Logan Reed
Where have you been for the last few years
Wyatt Cook
What's some baller green shit for Xenagod
I'm going to be converting my Zirilan deck into Xenagos soon
Aiden Lewis
All the BFZ land animating cards gave haste to avoid weird situations with lands that you just played being unusable in case you awakened it.
Chase Mitchell
Haste for Awaken is a mechanical thing. It was centered in WU I assume because they're +1/+1 counters alongside green and because Awaken is suited for control colors
Bentley Perry
I felt bad against a friend of mine who tried this guy his first time
>chooses Noyan >I choose Oona thinking he'd be able to counter plenty, which is ok because it's a test run for his deck anyway >End up setting up her combo while Traumatizing him before turn 7ish >Oona ability+strionic resonator+ashnod's altar+phyrexian altar+ Basalt Monolith for 2minutes >he scoops >tell him I'll pick something else >says "nah," I think I'll just dismantle it >we play again with different decks
fug
Sebastian Cooper
I want to build Noyan Dar because he's so unique and fun but but man it doesn't feel worth it.
Camden Baker
I think it's just sort of a hassle to have to play a land and then turn it into something. Why bother manipulating lands when you can power creature that have unique abilities when you cast them?
His ability is pretty useless when compared to the dozens of other UW commanders out there.
Nathaniel Carter
Best BU commander coming through.
Colton Torres
I think the idea is that you'd play a control deck where your spells become threats so you can just play all answers and build your threat from them but it's not a great plan on a 5 drop.
Blake Barnes
His ability is detrimental. With all the board wipe in EDH, it's basically playing land destruction on yourself.
Joseph Hernandez
You know what? I'm not going to dismantle Godo. Fuck it, I'm going to make him as balls-deep rawdog fuck you up as I can. Gonna save and get them good mana rocks, Gauntlets, the Swords, a Jitte all that shit
I want to annihilate motherfuckers with this deck
Joseph Miller
I agree
He's ok
Jonathan Jones
just gonna name some cards you probably want:
Hydra Omnivore Bane of Progress Pathbreaker Ibex Ruric Thar, the Unbowed Somberwald Sage
you didn't ask for red cards but you deffo want scourge of the throne and probably malignus too
maybe want:
Gruul Ragebeast Siege Behemoth Avoid Fate Rancor Momentous Fall
also, xenagos loves pump spells that double power or give double strike, so consider those too
Momentous Fall Blood Frenzy Fatal Frenzy Grab the Reins Rush of Blood Stonewood Invocation Temur Battle Rage Soul's Fire
Anyone have play experience with Edric? I'm curious why it's so popular to run tiny and/or otherwise 'trash' creatures with him. Just that effective to portray yourself as too small to bother with immediately?
Leo Jenkins
I have a Scourge in Zirilan but these are much appreciated, thanks mane
Cameron Ortiz
It's really the same with any creature. You can just throw all the counters on one land, and it's not really a big deal unless they're blowing up a bunch of individual land creatures. The problem is individual creatures actually do things by themselves. White can give the creature indestructible with like one card and blue can make it fly but its not worth it and without that stuff its just a big dumb dude that yeah just gets blown up and makes you lose a land for no good reason.
Eli Wright
Looks good, thought about adding the Filth+Brawn+Tomb of Yawgmoth combo at all?
Levi Stewart
As far as I know Edric is actually best when built around with trash flying men. You could just build a generic ug deck I suppose but I'd assume it's worse than actively building for his ability.
Wyatt Adams
Putrefax Greater Good Green Ramp Brawn Kalonian Hydra Giant Adephage Overwhelming Stampede Triumph of the Hordes
Aiden Foster
An army of 1-drop and 2-drop evasive fuckers coupled with potentially massive card draw on combat damage is a scary thing to face down
Colton Sanders
Stick with what you love, user, good on you
Evan Peterson
That's dirty
Isaac Parker
I have thought about it but my group runs alot of target specific land destruction so I feel urborg would get blown away before I could use it. Forgot about brawn, I'll have to find room for it
Zachary Morris
I'd like to make an artifact-based deck, and im having trouble deciding which direction to go in, as I've never done this before. So far, Muzzio, Pia and Kiran, and Kurkesh have my interest, as i like interesting interactions. Suggestions? Anything i should avoid? Commanders that do a better job or are more fun?
Luke Myers
You don't like playing dirty with Xenagod or in EDH?
Jaxon Bennett
Ah I see, looks good. Makes me want to build one for my Mazirek but I already have a Meren and there are other decks I want to build. Your deck has given me ideas though.
Brody Morales
forgot to mention Terastodon and Assault Strobe
i'm just listing off cards i have in my 130 dollar xenagos deck, so mine are mostly cheapos. there are a bunch of cards that help you cheat fatties into play so consider those too, although i can't name any besides Tooth and Nail
Logan Brooks
You've made peace with yourself, and in doing so, discovered what EDH means to you. Well done.
Chase Sanchez
Best mono red artifact commander is daretti but I don't think you're a faggot so you wouldn't play him. Arcum daggson is the best U artifact commander I've been told but never seen him in action. If you want best of both worlds you could do Jhoira or Keranos.
William Stewart
Infect seems unfair in edh, but odds are you'll lose to it at one point or another. Unless your group has a mutual agreement to not use it, you may as well.
Henry Torres
Here's my take on it: >Muzzio Powerful, especially with Brainstorm and Scroll Rack, Top and Soothsaying. Can function without it's commander.
>P&K Removal and goodstuff.dec, get value saccing Wurmcoils, Basilisk Collar is good.
>Kurkesh Powerful interactions if he sticks, left with a bunch of mediocre and overcosted artifacts if he doesn't
Ian Brown
There are actually quite a few
This one is particularly silly
Robert Johnson
>soothsaying How have i never seen this card before holy shit thank you user
Aaron Bell
Wait, wait. This and Greater Good. uuuuuh I must be missing something important, this seems absurd
David Ross
Infect is basically just commander damage (or rather its probably the reverse), except infect is only on shit creatures.
Gavin Flores
>want to make a deck >have all my cards in front of me >can't find the will to make a deck
Kevin Russell
Soothsaying is an MVP in my Melek deck
I don't think so. Sac something with Deathrender equipped, put something in, draw a bunch of cards (plus 2 extra from Deathrender buff), then discard 3 cards
Then do it again if you want
Aaron Gutierrez
THEN YOU ARE LOST
Joseph Clark
I avoided building Meren just for the reason of her being what she is. She's a nice commander but I would never get her to make a difference with my group, might try her as the 99 in mimeoplasm
Grayson Jenkins
Pretty much. I feel burnt out but not
Angel Davis
This is the best one
Nathaniel Turner
>just for the reason of her being what she is one of the most played commanders in all time?
Mimeoplasm with her in it is an interesting idea, though I feel mimeoplasm could get more from other cards. Meren just sort of becomes a big black hole of attention really.
Noah Brooks
yeah i was going to mention that but he asked for green cards
also that card is one of those "oops we made it too good" cards and it also costs like 30 bucks so it might not fit his group/budget
Robert Roberts
>one of the most played commanders in all time?
Exactly so I didn't want to become another Meren player, if not mimeoplasm what would you suggest? Shattergang Bros. could be goofy but might work
Austin Martinez
I have that in Zirilan too! It is stupid good, did R&D just not exist during Urza block?
I want to keep it around $200-300 budget-wise, luckily a few of the expensive pieces are things I already own
Noah Taylor
No no keep the Mimeoplasm. I'm just saying in general Meren brings so much attention to herself and does so much already if you have the synergy in the deck for her to be used in the first place.
Samuel Robinson
Shattergang can be very slow. 4 to cast and 3 for each ability can take a long while to get going
The Theros enchantment creatures can put in work though, and the Innistrad curses in those colors are fucking hilarious. Drop some and start playing mob boss in exchange for "favors"
Nolan Jenkins
I absolutely do not know which Artifact Commander deck to make.
Muzzio seems really fun Sharuum is badass and has a well-known wincon Memnarch seems really fun too
Brandon Ramirez
Noyan dar is actually not that bad, he IS heavy build around, but as a WU control deck he can work
You're definitely gonna want terra eternal and a few other effects to protect your lands (Teferi's response is a terrible card that actually works amazingly well when you're animating lands)
But besides that you just need to play smart with him, definitely put the counters on a single land rather than multiple to avoid getting blown out by board wipes
Inkmoth nexus with Noyan dar is actually no joke, my friend kills people with it pretty frequently
Andrew Ross
Mishra shenanigans can be very fun. And it's in some of the best colors for artifacts.
Christopher Russell
Wait for Kaladesh/Aether Revolt and see what we get
Believe me I'm in the same boat
Juan Powell
Personally I like sharuum best because esper is cool and even when you're not comboing with blood artist + sculpting steel I enjoy recursion abilities like hers
I'm not a huge fan of muzzio cuz he just seems like the shitty version of arcum daggson
Memnarch is a fine choice but very very mana intensive which isn't my style really
Matthew King
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Brody Green
Mishra does seem fun too
I was mulling over the same thing, probably the best idea.
Thanks for the input
Artifacts are fun, but waiting for Kaladesh is probably a good idea.
Jacob Howard
by the way, elvish piper can be pretty good in a xenagos deck.
if you don't need to swing at someone on your turn, you can play the piper, give it haste, use its ability, then play another creature in the second main phase. pretty easy way to cheat in stuff like Archetype of Endurance and so on
Henry Flores
>inkmoth nexus noyan dar hilarious
Alexander Gutierrez
The color pie exists to help design, but design is not chained to the pie. With out haste you have the question "what land did I play this turn, does my land a permanent that does not typically have summoning sickness have it?"
Design's job is to make the game intuitive and fun. Giving haste to remove what will be an obnoxious problem is good design. It anticipated a problem and prevented it. Color pie is a guideline not a sacred cow.
Jace Barnes
>mfw using coax from blind eternities to grab Aeon's Torn
Is this a completely legal move or am I cheating asshole
Kevin Mitchell
Depends on your group
If they go with "outside the game=sideboard" then yes you're an asshole, but otherwise I guess anything goes
Levi Anderson
Ask your playgroup
Chase White
Anybody else have trouble taking out foils from your deck even if they aren't really optimal?
I have FTV avacyn in my captain sisay deck and I find myself almost never casting it, not because I don't have the mana but because it doesn't actually do much in my meta
I can't imagine taking it out though
Noah James
No sideboards exist in EDH, and therefore grabbing cards from outside the game will always be cheating under the current rules. Some groups can houserule to make it legal, though.
Isaiah Russell
Just picked up that Premade nekusar edh box
Any tips on how to improve it?
Nathan Price
I'm talking about for a LGS, my group doesn't have a problem with, had a who used a wish to grab balance.
Well that's a shame
Leo Nguyen
Not really, efficiency is more important than whether or not a card in my deck is foil.
Sucks, but hey if it doesn't go anywhere else it is something I can trade for something I will use down the line.
Connor Thomas
I actually dislike foils (though not enough to avoid using good cards of course), so it's not a problem for me.
Owen Murphy
I guess if its an EDH night,ask the owner before you do, or if its just randos ask before hand I guess
Juan Butler
Why?
Gavin Torres
I'll be the outlier. Yes, for the more sentimental types, its tough to take out foils, even if they are sub-optimal. I agree.
Camden Powell
Yeah I should've rephrased that it's not just about any old foil, I really love Angels (I bought FTV Angels lol) and avacyn and it's an iconic legendary in a goddamn legendary creatures deck
It's just that in my meta, it's all cyc rift and toxic deluge, no wrath of God, and my friend stopped playing his MLD deck too
Landon Phillips
If it's a pet card type of sorts, why not make angel tribal to support your love of it? Or just avacyn at the helm of another deck?
Parker Gutierrez
Oh same, I have a few foils I cant bear to cut
On an unrelated note, how do you feel about Gold Bordered cards? I'm fine with them myself and run a gold bop since I got it for a buck a while back
Noah Collins
>that feel when I run sub optimal cards just because they're foil There is no way deadly wanderings will ever be viable for anything.
Anthony James
You can run a foil Lone Revenant with it too >all by my seeeeellllllllf
Jacob Collins
This card is a riot
It either backfires horribly or it hits the jackpot and ends up winning you the game, there's no in between
Zachary Ortiz
Not him but my reason for disliking foils is just how fragile they hard compared to nonfoils, even double sleeved its almost impossible to keep them in pristine condition, it might be I'm just using shitty sleeves but there's my piece on it.
Dylan Hill
How can I make this list even tighter
I want to add in a lightning greaves but I'm not sure what to take out for it
I've thought about angel tribal before but it just doesn't make sense to me, angels are all clustered at the top end of the mana curve for one, and too many of my favorite Angels splash a color or two (sigarda, gisela, Aurelia, lightning angel)
I could make an avacyn commander deck perhaps, but I feel like I'd just run into the same problem of her not being great in my meta, but even more extreme if I'm going to build around her
Gold border cards seem perfect for edh, cheap and edh at you kitchen table is unsanctioned
Thomas Foster
Idk it sounds like most of the time it's going to be in between
Hudson Diaz
>putting together a new deck >somehow lost a Jace Beleren Well this isn't good.
Joshua Edwards
Favorite Jace
Before he became magics poster boy
Parker Miller
The Lorwyn Five remain the most well-designed planeswalkers IMO
Strong but not super-busted and fit very well with their colors
Adam Roberts
post list
you may want to consider tossing in a scrap mastery, slobad, and Daretti. to help support artifacts. Goblin tinkerer, welding jar and trash for treasure are all great too.
If your goal is to load him up with equipment, you'll want a way to recuperate after that dickhead white player casts austere command.
Mason Hall
My copy of Sliver Legion finally came in, so my Overlord EDH deck has everything it needs.
Jordan Myers
>The Lorwyn Five remain the most well-designed planeswalkers IMO >Strong but not super-busted and fit very well with their colors
I think it's telling that even Richard Garfield didn't like planeswalkers as cards
Mason Edwards
Iirc Ajani was pretty busted for his time.
Leo Bell
Found him. I was real worried there for a minute. Found an Arcanis too, didn't even know I owned one of him. Worth an include in Melek?
Kayden Jones
>do a lot of trading with strangers at LGS >happy, got a lot of foils and staples i needed at fair exchanges >get home later >notice im now missing my only Nahiri, the Harbinger >i didnt trade it
Connor Campbell
That's why I only bring a maximum amount of cards with me to a LGS that can fit in one box in one hand. So none of my cards are ever out of my sight
It's explosive but that fuse can take a long while to ignite, I want it to be consistently fast
Nathaniel Anderson
>Missing Nahiri, the Harbinger
Its a bad card anyways user. But it does suck to lose out on the money from it
Tyler Nelson
What do you think of running all 6 Runes of Protection in Hanna?
Parker Nelson
Does playing Kruphix mean you're "that guy"?
Alexander Lopez
Post your LGS house rules >Commander can only be played as a league at the store >Your deck must be composed of cards bought from the store either as singles or from packs , except for basics. >There is a data sheet to keep track of everyone's card lists
Its pretty fun. The LGS is making extra cash and it creates a fun supply and demand system at the store. I monopolized Mirrorwing Dragon to fuck over the Zada player.
Cooper Butler
No, playing Zegana or Edric makes you "that guy".
Jaxson Brooks
Just don't find the visual effect particularly appealing.