Query

If enough orks beleive that their Warboss can't die, would he not be able to die?

How Can Mirrors Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real?

Yes, that's what happens to Yarrick and why he's never defeated.

Orks meme things into existence

Orks are coincidentally green like Kek

he wouldnt, strictly speaking be invincible, but he would lead a successfull WAAAAGHH!, and always seem to miraculously escape arm

like Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka
that asshole is still alive despite constantly messing with the imperium and being on their grade A threat list

Make Your Memes Come True

No, because that's not how it works.

Orks are genetically engineered warriors that have knowledge genetically infused into their very essence. The WAAAGH! Field isn't a conscious thought - it's a 100% automatic, subconscious ability that happens for as long as they are alive, interacting with others to build a whole greater than the sum of their parts.

Ork tech works because, in the mind of an Ork, why would it NOT work?

Ork "glyphs" work as Gellar Fields in the Warp, because why would they NOT keep the Warp at bay?

Red things go faster when wielded by Orks because they just DO.

No Ork thinks that another Ork is invincible, however - every Ork knows that the Boss can be killed by a bigger Boss, because that's the way Orks work, and even the biggest Boss can be killed by the Bosses of other races.

>Think you can't die: +1 AC & saves
>Your gang thinks you can't die: +2 AC & saves
>Your legion thinks you can't die: +3 AC & saves
etc
For a big Warboss the effect is significant. But its not immortality.

Red goes faster != Red goes FTL

If they subconsciously beleive that their boss is the best, and therefore cannot be stopped because he is indeed the best, he wouldn't be able to be stopped if a large enough amount of orks beleive in him because of said gestalt feild.

This is true. Don't think too hard about it.

>and therefore cannot be stopped because he is indeed the best

They don't think this way. Winning or losing rarely, if ever, even crosses their minds in the first place. It's all about fighting to them.

Their boss may be the best fighter, but he's not invincible. That said, he will progressively more and more difficult to kill as more and more Orks believe in that Ork.

The closest time an Ork ever got to the level of "unkillable," was The Beast, and he got killed by the Emperor and Horus.

Granted, he was killed by a literal god and a demi-god, but he was killed nonetheless.

That's fair.

>If enough orks beleive that their Warboss can't die, would he not be able to die?

We are positing that enough orks DO believe this, Regardless of the fact whether they would or not.

Under that assumption, yes, the warboss would be functionally unkillable if enough orks believed it.

>Under that assumption, yes, the warboss would be functionally unkillable if enough orks believed it.

The problem is getting enough Orks to believe this in the first place. In order for a Warboss to be unkillable, he'd have to be believed to be unkillable at the species-wide scale, with new Orks automatically coming out of the ground knowing this at the genetic level. You'd have to have pretty much every single Ork in existence believing this, and at that point said Warboss is the third Ork God and even more powerful than Gork and Mork themselves.

True, but OP didn't ask what it'd take to get enough orks to believe it, and in universe it'd be basically impossible at a practical level, but it's still theoretically possible.

Well, orks don't pop out of the ground believing that red goes faster though, that's a societal thing, same with yellow making bigger booms. They beleive it on a base level, not "genetically encoded" like their passive reality warping psychosis is. All you would have to do is have enough orks beleive that he, like the user said above is functionally unkillable, on par with Gork and Mork.

He would find a way to either kill himself or leave the galaxy because no fight would ever challenge him again in the milky way. Half of all orks would follow his decision making life in the imperium nicer for a while.

>Well, orks don't pop out of the ground believing that red goes faster though,

But they do. Even Feral Orks understand things like colors and Ork tech, without having to be told them. That's part of what makes Orks so incredibly difficult to eradicate from a world, because they essentially just keep respawning in nooks and crannies and getting stronger and stronger if left to their own devices, directly progressing in tech and "Kulture" even in a vacuum.

It's completely a genetic thing, just like almost everything else about Orks is, from medicine to engineering to language.

I know Grukk is so dangerous because he wholeheartedly believes that he cannot lose.

It's like how people can believe in political ideologies/religions here so much that they'll die for them, but that doesn't mean they'll be willing to die for every single idea.

For instance, you'd be hard pressed to find someone who believes the sky is yellow and rains donuts to the point where they would die in defense of the idea.

Orks can manifest shit, but it has to be stuff they would actually believe, and Orks won't believe just ANYTHING the same way people won't.

And the things they do/don't believe are different from humans.

So that's how Gork and Mork came to be?

Orks rarely think new things, especially since so many of them have such short lives, and anything unOrky is derided, and for them so many things just are as they are and are never questioned. That's half of why the Ork field can work at all, because so many of them never have doubt in something they already know is true.

Why would an Ork ever think about death, anyway? They focus on the scrap, the big fight, the fun, but dying barely even factors into their thought process. They aren't afraid of it like other races, so they wouldn't worry about when their boss or the Ork next to them or even they are going to die.

Orks beliefs about their bosses are already reflected in their size. A Warboss every Ork knew was unbeatable would just grow into a massive Ork, because for Orks size = power.

>The closest time an Ork ever got to the level of "unkillable," was The Beast, and he got killed by the Emperor and Horus.

You deserve to be killed and revived on an endless cycle for your lies.

The Ork Warbosses that the Emperor and Horus killed were not the Beast. Each one was named and was a different Ork.

orks are literally Veeky Forums incarnate in the world of 40k, is what you're saying

I would still say no, orks believe their tech works and to some degree it does, their WAAAGH field just makes it work slightly more reliabley, I think if they all genuinely believed he was unkillable he would become a fuck load harder to kill, much tougher than a regular warboss but the warp has limits too, launch enough torpedo's into his face and he will die

>moving the goalposts this hard

I don't care if you made that post 13 hours ago, you'z a git