Jack Chick

Thats on the same level as Harry Potter haters thinking it's satanic

Seems like it's those mixing places that give a damn at all. I live in rural Missouri (Ozarks, in fact) and seems like an unusual amount of people used to like that stuff or read fantasy books and understood it. The only people I've heard were against it here, and some probably still, were the Southern Super Religious people who most people think are fucking cuckoo anyway.

Such a society couldn't even kill Wesley Crusher.

I don't live in a country founded by puritans.
So no, I've never had this crap.

Modern fundamentalists prefer to go at more popular targets, like Pokemon Go.

Once had a preacher tell a story about how a teen killed his whole family because he played "an evil video game called Dungeons and Dragons."
Had a hard time keeping a straight face while listening.

>One of them said his friend got curious and bought one. When his friend tried to read it he was attacked by demons.
How does that work? Do you just need to open the book or do you have to play? Are the demons random or related to the game (or maybe your character)?
Oh also, how does his friend survived fucking demons?

I'm sure there must be a RPG in a pseudo Jack Chick universe somewhere...

Well, it's hard to kill the writer's Gary Stu. (And by writer I mean Gene Roddenberry. The actual writers kept trying to fix the character so he wouldn't be terrible and Gene kept saying "no!")

they are not that much into worldbuilding i belive

What a delightful young lady.
Finally somebody understand!

So they are "idea guys" then? Shame.

To be fair to them, early editions of MTG (I'm an oldfag, this was in 1995 or 96) did have much more overt demonic themes.

Where is the bong!?

>Thai Cuisine

>that feel when I went to a public elementary school, and a christian high school
It's nice, I was a cannibal corpse shirt wearing edgy nihlist faggot in highschool, and as a result of wanting to express my special snowflakeness, I had to develop a strong understanding of Christianity. Now, it feels nice to tell fundamentalist idiots that their *opinions* are misguided. Some of the most religious people I've ever met were in a goregrind band; you can be religious and still have fun.

Now, with regard to D&D, most people don't care, at least where I live. In my playgroup it was either play an edgy D&D campaign while listening to Autopsy, go on the internet doing god knows what, or play some obscenely violent arena shooter. Clearly D&D was the preferred choice by 99% of our parents.

The only time I ever remember having an issue was when I went over to my friend's for our campaign while my girlfriend was watching Braindead (aka Dead Alive). In our campaign we were gathering souls, but in order to harvest the souls, we had to have an elaborate summoning ritual. I remember something about disembowling a priest, drinking his blood from a skull, and having his intestines come to life to tell us where the maguffin went. My buddy's poor mom walked in at exactly that moment, while Peter in Braindead was lawnmowering 50 or so zombies in the background. She went white as a sheet, made an ear peicing shriek and promptly kicked us out. Turns out my buddy had to go to a christian camp that summer, but apart from missing his awesome basement, nothing really came of it.

>Jehova witness people came by and someone answered the door.
This story definitely happened.

Wait - are you seriously saying that an actual prejudice still exists? Mazes and Monsters came out, what, 35 years ago, and people STILL think it's demonmagic?!!
Damn you, Tom Hanks!

Not the Jack Chick variety. But this Wiccan bitch friend of a girl I met on Tinder got really fucking uptight about the content of a very Deus Vulty game I was talking about with the girl.

Like the biggest crybaby fit ever over how even as a joke that's still perpetuating blah blah fucking blah.

The girl doesn't talk to me anymore because she's a wiccan too and the bitchy one was like the priestess of their little trailer park coven.

Man, I wish my group was attacked by demons. Then we could finally stop playing 3.5

Maybe you were...
What do you think hell is?

I always answered the door back when I was an edgy fuck to make fun of them.

You have to be 18 to use Veeky Forums

I still listen to DM and BM, wear band tshirts, play DnD, Mtg and others. Im one of the very few religious people in my friends circle. Never in my life I faced any problems concerning my hobbies. My parents hate all forms of metal and are really conservative but they were very supportive, bought me cds since I was very young, let me go to gigs, same with tg stuff. Thats the reason I never went even slightly edgy.

The internet is a series of satanic game tubes young man.

That iPhone in your pocket is a spellbook from the devil!

No, the phrase "back in the day" should have tipped you off that I'm an oldfag. I started playing Basic D&D in grade school back in '82. Get off my lawn, I guess?

Wiccans are like the Christians of the occult world. Smug and self-righteous, but also prickly and constantly needing to be the most important belief system in the room.

My dad played d&d when he was younger, and had to explain to his girlfriend last year that me playing it was not going to involve any satanic rituals

Well that does explain all the druids

>his game doesn't involve satanic rituals
look at him and laugh

Oh, and also they are really devoted to whitewashing the stuff that happened in the middle ages. All that devil stuff never happened, and it was all lies by their enemies, and all the witches prior to the 20th century who said otherwise were I dunno, on mushrooms or something.

Honestly, this particular group is kind of worse. From what I understand she was charging everyone in the group to perform their rituals, the girl I was seeing would regularly smoke that spice shit because the chick mixed it in with her weed, and there's a line from their little get-togethers that's something like "Embracing [the spirit whatever] in perfect love and perfect trust."

Like I never actually witnessed cult behavior behavior before I met this girl and I'm kind of sad that she's stuck out in that trailer park with these people because she's otherwise a really nice girl.

I do. The internet is an improvement over the old way of moms getting information fourth-hand, via the telephone calls of vindictive gossipy frenemies. My mom came to me and told me how worried she was that I would become suicidal from my Dungeons and Dragons books, and basically guilted me into burning all my 1e and 2e. Later I found out that she was manipulating me to try to get something dad wanted, as he was an elder at the First Church Of No Fun. Twist was that he only mentioned it as a pretext to send me off to military school to get rid of me anyway, and this was her counterargument to keep me around.

I play D&D because it's a game I can win, unlike the mindfuck of a game we call society

Rape your dad.

>I play D&D because it's a game I can win
>D&D
>Winning

I get what you're saying man, but that was a really poor choice of words.

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>start playing OD&D when I'm 7 years old (early/mid 90s) with my grandfather; he DMs for me and I play the whole party of PCs going through dungeons
>time passes
>be in fifth grade
>played MTG with some family members but don't have my own cards
>see two guys playing MTG and ask to join in
>they let me use one of their decks
>conversation during the game shifts
>I'm kind of shy so I just let them talk
>the following exchange happens
>"Man, look. I just played an angel. I can't believe some people think this game is Satanic."
>"Yeah... Now, Dungeons and Dragons. THAT stuff is devil worship."
>"Yeah."
>mfw

D&D /is/ a game you can win or lose. That's why it's cheating when the DM fudges rolls.

>D&D /is/ a game you can win or lose.
The only winning move is not to play.

Oh, I didn't realize we were talking specifically about 3/3.5 and variants thereof.

>When his friend tried to read it he was attacked by demons.
A clever retort might be "Isn't lying a sin?", seeing as, ya know, he was in all likelihood pulling that story out of his ass and claiming it as truth.

but as to question, never, not the religious "DnD is the Devil's work!!!" at any rate. once or twice in my life I've gotten the "Get a life"-type mockery but that's about it. Most people I talked to either share my interests, or admit it's not their thing and leave it at that.

Depends on the house. At my house, we have a massive as fuck window(6'x6') on the west face of the house, facing the driveway from the living room. Someone comes up the hill and gets out of their car, they can see us sitting on the couch or at the kitchen table - which, yes, is in the living room. My mother thought we should put up a dividing wall between the kitchen and living room, because she hates open floor plans, and there's no room in the kitchen anymore; bonus: she hates the wall now - so they know if we're sitting there being rude. I've had to answer the door for mormons, Jehova's witnesses, fraternity of police people, and at least a few others, because the assholes around here would rather stand there knocking for ten minutes to shame you into answering the door and act like the happiest fuckers in the world to really twist the knife than give up and move on.

Back in... 1990 or so we played every Sunday quite regularly. A girl who we were friends with and lived in the same complex as where we played, her parent's wouldn't let her come over on game days. She would also bring over some hilariously entertaining "D&D is evil!" religious pamphlets for us occasionally.

Now that I think of it, some friends in Baptist school with me in the late '80's and some parents who hated me bringing D&D stuff around. We had a comfy place to play at our religious Youth Group place we played a few times before being banned from playing.

to be fair, I answer the door out of habit and then find out all too late what they want.

then again I live in one of those... I think I've heard it called a "motel suburb", I think I'm remembering it wrong, POINT IS! its one of those suburbs where everyone drives off each morning and doesn't come back except to sleep. In other words, during the daylight hours 90% of the homes are unoccupied.

>Furries & DMPC
Oh God

In the decade, over here in Europe, the Catholic priest who I never knew was a Catholic priest until he died and I was forced into my best dress and hat for the procession, DMed my first ever tabletop game session and set me on the path of dork culture.

Thanks for that, Hervé.

Catgirls =/= furry

That's pretty great.

Probably a good showcase on the difference in Christianity on either side of the Atlantic. The guy who banned us playing in the Youth Group place also did a big lecture on how rock & roll was evil and should be avoided. So... yeah.

Nah, I'm sure we have some priests who would do the same. The bearded ones over here are certainly crazy enough for that kind of shit.

>rock & roll was evil
Only the really good stuff is.

saving it thanks

I legit never noticed that before. My sides have left orbit.

Never myself. But there was this one thing about a decade ago, my friend was wearing a D&D shirt with a red dragon on it and at a mall got this really long and intense look from an older lady as we walked past her. We only later realized his shirt was probably the reason and she took him for a devil worshipper or something.

I wonder what said lady thought of the people there passing through who wore heavy metal shirts, there being a big specialist CD shop there as well.

But that's pretty much the only thing approaching D&D discrimination I've ever seen (or heard of) happening here.

Creating Star Trek aside, Gene was a pretty big douchenozzle IRL. I've read so many stories of him and Paramount screwing over Trek writers.

CoughHarlenEllisonCough

My own mother, who is otherwise pretty smart, didn't believe that I wasn't playing some sort of demonic/introvert weirdo game until she heard that our neighbor's adult son used to play and now he has a job, a house, a wife, and a kid.

She also says she prays for me when I try to talk to her about things I enjoy doing.

Oh yeah. Christian family and all that. Parents were fairly understanding, members of our church and other relatives were full of disapproval. So glad my parents raised me to think for myself.

>not having satanic rituals
Get out of here with that pussy shit.

At my FLGS here in St Louis some crazy Christfag left a big stack of Jack Chick's Dark Dungeons in the gaming area. Needless to say we all had a great laugh. I just wish I kept a copy so I'd have a hard copy of it for myself.

right. they're somehow even worse.

I once tried playing without sacrificing a virgin goat once and I rolled nothing but ones. Learned my lesson.

>anti-D&D discrimination
>stigma

You sound like a feminist.

Thiiiiiiiiiccccc

I always answer the door because if you don't they'll probably keep knocking or come back later.

It's usually kids looking for my kids, kids are persistent.

Eh, a little.

mm, yes.

There were these ones back at my old home trying to convert the whole block or something.
I answered them but warned lazily about the iron charriot in the garage (obviously shitting them).

One of them got the reference and left very fast. I honestly did not expect that shit to work.

Not outright. Had people asking me about it, but since I live in a place where everything got denounced as satanic back then nobody seriously believed that shit. When explaining it to people some of them wanted to play even, so I guess propaganda backfired.

I did get a lot of questions in chatrooms asking if roleplaying was anything sexual though. They seemed to not get why include elves and dwarves in the deal.

>I put on my robe and wizard hat.

I grew up being told by my parents that dd caused people to commit suicide. It wasn't until I moved out that I learned it was one group that did that.

>jaywalks
>shot in front of firing squad
Whatever you say, user.

For reference it was this person death that started the shit storm.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Dallas_Egbert_III

It still exists it's just not a prevalent as it used to be. I attended a Church Camp around the year 2000 that warned me about the dangers of D&D.

Joke's on them, my Dad was both a Preacher and my first DM.

>being called James Dallas Egbert III
>the goddamn third
>not commit suicide
What were the parents thinking?

Why do so many parents give their kids shit names? Like, I see kids walking around with the type of name I'd expect to see on a dog.

He had a lot of issues.

Like his mum.

We do have a past-time here that causes people to gradually become violent, primitive and strange. It's called going to church.

Ok, it's true. I don't really play D&D. I can never get a group, and PTSD gets in the way of the fun when I do. But I enjoy reading the rules, and used to enjoy the fluff, and start homebrews I will never finish.

I cast level 3 eroticism, you turn into a beautiful womyn.

This.
>I'm Andrew Dallas and here's my son, James Dallas Egbert III
>you don't want to know what happened to I and II

Briefly. My parents, devout Evangelical Protestants, thought Magic the Gathering and D&D were both the occult and told me I could never get involved in either. I had a friend who played Magic and he sat down with me with his cards, my dad insisted on observing. Nothing really came of it (too rich for my blood anyway)

Later, I played D&D at highschool, told my folks about it. Dad said "it's cultish" and I said "it's not really" and that was the end of the concerns.

I had pretty chill understanding parents.

Then how are you writing here?
DEVIL WORSHIPPER! SHAME!
I am writing from a sanctified keyboard and use christian filter so I'm safe from Satan.

>She also says she prays for me when I try to talk to her about things I enjoy doing.

That isn't unreasonable depending what it is you enjoy doing.

My friend's parents are really religious. I swear his mother can't go for more that three sentences without mentioning Jesus. If anything good ever happens, it's always because God was looking out for you, even if the good thing was something somebody else directly did, like giving you a quarter to pay for your drink at the convenience store after it turns out you were short on cash. God would get more praise than the actual person giving you the quarter. (His dad's plenty religious too, but doesn't come across as unhinged about it.)

Anyway, his mom freaked out when she found out he was playing D&D and burned his all books in the fireplace. So he just started doing freeform stuff. Once he grew up and moved out, he decided he was pagan (as in spirits and goddesses and shit--though he admittedly seems halfhearted about it and hardly ever brings it up, at least in the presence of our group of mostly atheists and non-observing Christians/Christians by default). He recently decided he was gender-queer, which personally seems silly to me because he has like zero sexual drive or identity and couldn't explain to me what the difference was other than that he might sometimes wear a skirt or paint his nails. But maybe I'm just the relic of a bygone era who has fallen behind the curve of progress and can only shake his head at the crazy things kids are doing these days.

In any case, you have to give his parents some credit, as apparently, despite being mystified about his... gender identity, they were still accepting of him and reiterated their love for him. Given their crazy level of religiousness and right-wing political views (their church apparently preaches about how the homosexual agenda is destroying the country and trying to turn people away from God), it's not necessarily the reaction you would've expected.

But I guess the point of all of this is to keep your kids away from D&D, because it'll turn them pagan and (sort of, but not really) gay.

On a not entirely unrelated note, I remember that some kids had painted the symbol for Blue Oyster Cult onto the shed in their backyard, and everybody thought satanic rituals were conducted there and shit.

youtu.be/ePskTD61oH0

When I was in like 5th(?) grade I bought an old Marvel RPG from a game shop that opened up near us. Apparently my mother didn't realize what it was when I bought it, and when she figured it out went back and yelled at the store owner. Dude was super cool though and took it in stride, laughed about it later when I was a bit older and went in to the store myself.

My grandmother was a fanatical Christian who raised my father Catholic and fancied herself Jewish as well. She gave me a lot of those Jack Chick comics when I was a kid.

On a slightly funnier note, a random Korean Unitarian gave me one this New Year's day when I helped him a bit at the store I work at.

Honestly the Jack Chick comics are hilarious.

Apparently everyone is new in the situation.

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I'd shift the labels one to the left, so that you start with semi-furry, but whatever.

>kind of furry
>furry
>very furry
>dammit, Disney!
>fine too