> Be me > Play 4e, but really unsatisfied with it. Feels too much like WoW, with it's mandatory magic items, not-spells for everyone and other shit. > Don't want to play 3.5, because it's fucking boring and has a lot of the same problems. > "user, come play Pathfinder with us! It fixed everything! They buffed fighter and monk, it's all great now!" > Fall for the meme > Join their party, get the player handbook, play a few sessions. > It's literally all the same as 3.5. > mfw
I just want to play a game that feels like fantasy, like Lord of the Rings, where my character can't jump to fucking heavens or fight spellcasting supersonic teleporting dragons as mooks. I want a bear or a squad of orcs to be a threat to me, and I want my rookie fighter armed with his late father's sword to be an actually viable character.
I've heard all the same things about 5e, but don't want to get burnt again. Is it better?
Play OSR games or WHFRP if you are interested in a low key, but playable game.
Alternatively, go riddle of steel or the burning wheel. They're harder to get into, but very enjoyable once you do.
Jeremiah Davis
I feel like Burning Wheel fits your criteria pretty well. Shame there's no pdf for it.
Aaron Mitchell
> I want a bear or a squad of orcs to be a threat to me, and I want my rookie fighter armed with his late father's sword to be an actually viable character.
user - just play WFRP2e (Just don't get too attached to your characters)
Jonathan Ramirez
I believe they just reprinted the Burning Wheel, as my local game store has just got in like 7 copies of it, all new. Might want to check out your local stores or online if you want to try it.
William Myers
Legends of the Wulin has most of this, especially if you start a rank lower then default. Pretty much any enemy can be fatal (or cause you to change your ways- the damage system isn't just for physical wounds!) due to the way the system works, and people can do barely supernatural things. Does come with a very Eastern setting that you can't really switch out due to how the system uses XP.
Zachary Jones
>frogposting >edition shitflinging
Guve it a rest, you fag.
Noah Lewis
Shame on me for responding to a frogpost, but
The One Ring Rune Quest/Legend Savage Worlds
William Sanders
3.5 is fucking boring as shit and Pathfinder is just some money grubbing dickheads attempt at "re-inventing" it but it's the same crap repackaged.
Caleb Campbell
>> Play 4e, but really unsatisfied with it. Feels too much like WoW, with it's mandatory magic items, not-spells for everyone and other shit.
That was my reaction to it as well.
Have you tried:
>Symbaroum >The One Ring >Black Company d20 >Labyrinth Lord >Torchbearer >Lamentations of the Flame Princess
See the OSR thread for more stuff.
Kayden James
playing 5e in a low magic setting with variant rest rules (short rest = 8 hours, representing sleeping the night - long rest = 1 week, representing actually resting, recovering, tending to wounds, refocusing magical essences, etc.)
Been working out great so far and makes it an interesting challenge for everyone.
Kevin Parker
Shame on you for forcing that dumb meme and being a faggot.
Nolan Williams
OSR, yo.
Kevin Hughes
You could try 13th Age. It's a more narratively-based cousin to DnD, and the abilities are less set in stone, though you will have to negotiate/cajole with the GM to ppint that wiggle room where you want.
Carter Sullivan
Play OSR
Camden Robinson
Savage Worlds usually strikes the right power/threat ratio. You can wreck goblin faces, but there's always a chance of horrible death that makes playing smart the superior strategy.
I'd argue there's a wee bit of caster supremacy, but it's less of a problem when you use the No Power Points rule.
Mason Flores
I'm so glad i got into wfrp 2e, magical items are really really rare and having them doesn't always guarantee a fight. In fact people and monsters who sense magic might even prioritize you since you have something valuable on you compared to the rest.
Having a best crafted weapon/armor feels like a damn luxury and even that can easily be broken and decently expensive.
Isaac Rogers
Try the actual LoTR game? Think it's called the One Ring.
David Diaz
>user, come play Pathfinder with us! It fixed everything!
What are things that no one, including Pathfinder fans, have ever said for 300 Alex.
Michael Perez
Play anything OSR-related (Labyrinth Lord, Basic or Original D&D, Swords & Wizardry, OSRIC, Basic Fantasy RPG, etc) and you will fear everything with your 3 HP.
In particular, let me introduce you to my Lord and savior (pic related).
FantasyCraft also, but it might feel a bit too much like 3.X for your taste. It makes a lot of sweeping changes (full attacks are gone, armor is DR, etc) but does use the same d20 engine so things like skills, saves, etc are all very familiar.
Henry Wright
What? No. Stop, that's not what he's looking for at all. Wuxia is decidedly not the kind of dirtfarming simulator he's interested in. Wuxia is all about embracing character drama in a kung fu autism simulator.
Joseph Cox
No, you.
Nolan James
Curious, so these cucks can set it up such that I can download my own file, but make it publicly inaccessible without my noticing.
Fuck it dude, if this doesn't work, post a dummy email and I will just fucking email it to you. I refuse to let Luke cuck Burning Wheel into a smaller audience.
Anthony Ramirez
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Nathaniel Gonzalez
No dice.
Brandon White
Works for me.
Noah Garcia
GURPS: Dungeon Fantasy, played with the optional rules on DF15:32 'Junior Delvers' to start at lower character points. SJGames would have called the series GURPS:AD&D if they wouldn't have been sued.
125 points will give you the equivalent of level 1 characters (the default is 250 points which is about level 5-6), if you want to play level 0 characters then there are templates for those too. You'll get fucked by everything if you're not careful but that seems to be what you want.
Magic is still busted but not as badly as 3.PF D&D, and there are alternative (vastly superior) Magic systems to explore and slot in if desired such as Sorcery and Ritual Path Magic.
Aiden Parker
No GURPS meme post yet so I'll do it. >GURPS If you're actually brave enough then there's the general to ask stupid questions in and get reasonable answers.
Matthew Perry
>30 seconds apart. Don't mind me.
Levi Watson
Do you have a pdf of The Black Company? I needs those magic rules in my life again
