Cyborgs, Augments, all that good stuff

inb4, during, and after GURPS

>GURPS
takes a backseat to CP 2020 and SR in terms of playing a cyborg.

no, it hasn't. that title belongs to Cyberpunk 2020 when used with Chromebooks 1 to 4. blows everything else out of the water

Mention of GURPS is like Politburo Hit Squad or malnourish death, inevitable, and drawing closer each day.

Those barrels are a bit obscene don't you think?

I mean yeah, they might be a bit unwieldy, if you're a lil' bitch.

'Merica nigga, it's just how we do it.

But she's russian.....

Eclipse Phase.

Besr system for Ghost in The Shell type of stuff.

>quadruple criple

>Cloaks himself
>Not the huge pipeline barrel sniper rifle

That always bothered me.

>four hard points

Anything more than 3 introduces instabilities.

>ctrl-f
>shadowrun
>0 of 0

Really?

Only in the feeble

Maybe they have to pay by the foot when it comes to cloaking?

See? THREE. Even the damn drone knows and it's more retarded than the TPP.

I dunno, I'm counting four, I will admit its kinda ambiguous what's chrome and what's not

See? Three. No left arm.
Seriously, who even thought up the left arm? It's like the tea party of arms. Yeah, sure, it's there and everything but it hardly gets any use and the right does far more and far better work.

I suppose a lot of people like asymmetry? Maybe its to show that it's a cyborg rather than an andriod?

You could do that by showing some cleavage and i gotta say i like my cleavages symmetrical. But nothing beats a nice tripod for stable reliability.

Hmm, I'm genuinely stumped, I mean its not like there's plenty of full-body cyborgs, you would really think there would be more quadrupples.

I mean seems to be a quad, so there's that.

Nah. Check the left leg. Bitch goes all the way to at LEAST the shin. Tripod's baby!
Buuuut.... If you want some quads just...slip the chopshop keep a fiver and say keep the "change" handjob markets huge both ways.

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>nice tripod for stable reliability.
A tripod is the most unstable geometric configuration.

>takes a backseat to CP 2020 and SR in terms of playing a cyborg.

Hah, that's hilariously wrong. CP2020 is barely functional, and SR penalizes full-conversion cyborgs as heavily as it can short of not allowing it (and they're still merely equal to a mage).

Both are heavy on the cyberpsychosis angle as well - though SR4 toned it down, SR5 ramped it back up.

GURPS cybertech has a wider range of options, power scales and consequences. Plus a better system.

I'm not all that well read on GURPS, but isn't it pretty heavily simulationist? Not quite tables within tables, but still quite cumbersome?

Triangles are natures natfits. All other fits wanna be it.

Shadowrun pretty good for playing a cyborg, it also got magic if you're into that.

I actually picked up a couple of the SR5 books a while ago, but the fact that your limited by you essence, and how poorly laid out the books are, kinda put me off.

>CP2020 is barely functional
Bullshit. People play it and have fun playing it; it's very functional for a system that age.

>SR penalizes full-conversion cyborgs
I don't recall OP specifying full-conversion cyborgs but point taken.

>Both are heavy on the cyberpsychosis angle as well
That doesn't make them bad systems for playing cyborg. Also, in both cases. it can be just ignored.

>GURPS cybertech has a wider range of options
GURPS Cyberpunk has 13 pages of Cyberware. Okay. How many non-cyberpunk books do I have to buy in addition to that until I can compete with Chromebooks 1 to 4? And do I have to buy GURPS Bioware then too?

>Plus a better system.
Enjoy micro-managing your 1 second rounds, faggot.

>I don't recall OP specifying full-conversion cyborgs but point taken.

OP here, full conversion isn't a must, but it's nice to have that option.

I prefer full conversation brain in a body designed to look like the original and then they still wear clothes. Is it for the feeling of normalcy? Or just cute? Or wacky?

I don't know, it's just fun.

Cute!
Cute is justice.

I always say both arms and legs should be cybernetic at a minimum. If they're going full-body, brain in a jar, I always like the idea of having a combat and civilian body. The combat body being as messed up and creepy as you like, civilian body being more, well, normal.

I'd wager that for most people it would be to retain some sense of normalcy. Having your mind transferred into a completely novel structure which would undoubtedly feel strange and different would likely be pretty stressful.

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Presumably normalcy was the idea from the get-go, otherwise why bother to recreate a normal looking body instead of going straight for the armor plating.

Not the best picture for it, really, given this is almost more skeletal in places.

I suppose there could be aesthetic/artistic reasons for recreating a body. Like installing someone into a lovingly crafted marble statue. The kind before the arms have fallen off or someone chiseled off the willy and replaced it with a leaf.

The Star Wars RPG from FFG is pretty good for borgs. You can have a regular prosthetic or get expensive for some nice bonuses. May need to handwave the cap on cyberwear though if you want to be heavily invested. Vader and Grievious are impossible under the existing rules, so I certainly recommend ignoring the limits to better fit the setting.

I actually ran a cyborg whose whole deal was that their body looked like Hades from The Rape of Persephone, massive art and cyberwear snob.

I could see rich people with full body conversions doing it for artsy type bodies, like those that don't have normal skeletal frames but have artistic twists and curves to get the "form" of the human shape but in abstract.

I mean, how do you expect me to go out for a dinner date with Journalist about in a common meat body?

Cute!

I mean we're basically already half way there

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I recall there was a series of pictures with custom made prosthetics modeled by various people similar to that.

That said, in my ideal Sci-fi setting people generally only get cybernetic arms and legs when they've lost them rather it being a required standard, although you'd still have those people who would gladly hack off an arm or leg to get one the same way you have people who drop thousands on plastic surgery to look like a tiger.

Then again, I've been trying to rethink "augmentations" as a whole rather then being purely cybernetic or genetic it'd be a mixture of the two rather than, "I get my arm replaced"

What screams rich asshole more than having yourself rebuilt as a classic depiction of a god complete with larger than life dimensions? Especially when equipped with a top of the line suite of defensive and offensive augmentations. Whether it's just the option for the decadent, the egotistical, or that rich wheezing old man who normal medical science can no longer help who decides to go to extreme lengths while also thumbing the eyes of the gods who he feels abandoned him.

Damn, I kind of want to run that BBEG now. Still I'm sure it's been done before. Probably Anime.

I don't see why not. A dude with a combat body with parts that look like marble making him look like a freakish living statue of Zeus sounds like it would be a badass BBEG

Hell, I think SR5 has rules for playing heavily augmented dudes with a god-complex.

>been done
Ergo proxy city leaders. Literally gigantic roman god statues.

I keep hearing about that, is it any good?

Yes and no.

Would you mind going into a little bit more detail?

RAISON D'ÊTRE

The sun is your enemy. Outside will kill you.
Seriously just watch it.

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Is that porn?

No.....?

All I really want is a good transhumanist system. You wanna play the mecha pilot wired into their machine? You wanna play the cyborg who can flip APCs? You wanna play the ghost in the machine leet hacker? It's got you covered. Ah well, one day.

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Odd as it sounds I've managed to run full cyborg in Black Crusade, our GM opened up some of the Rogue Trader and Dark Heresy books for us to peruse.
Once you get enough machine trait, cyber limbs and eyes, a mechanical brain and even your heart and lungs are made of metal it get pretty crazy and that's before all the cool little things extra cybernetics can do.
Or there's Eclipse Phase, you can cyborg in that too.

Do go one, user

On, do go on...

Depends on what you want to hear. I've got stories about how our warband and later rogue trader crew fucked shit up or I've got the feats that my crazed cyborg chaos champion could perform.
Your pick user.

Could I trouble you for all of them? Or at least the one you like the most?

Like I need an excuse to go on about anything 40k related.
First some context, we worked for Huron Blackheart (our GM liked namedropping so sue him) and in the wake of the Badab War had been sent to fuck up a planet in any way we pleased.
Once there we set to embedding ourselves into the political fabric of the hive and for the most part succeeded. Then one of our number, a Slannesh worshipping sorcerer, whipped up a set of super drugs which he then fed to the admitted paranoid heretek. One bomb collar latter we found ourselves in the hospital so my admittedly not very cybernetic (I was accruing them at the time) renegade fed the entire ward this drug on doughnuts.
The resultant slaughter summoned an army of bloodletters because lol warp rifts.

But it got better than that. One of our number had the foresight to kidnap Psykers on a regular basis during our stay on the planet and as a giant fuck you to the grey Knights who came to purge the daemonic invasion forced them all to keep casting powers at the push level until they peril'd, hard. (I suspect drugging and violent coercion were involved, I was too busy getting cybered up at the time as well as infiltrating a sororitas convent)
The resultant warp explosion in the sewers summoned even more daemons of Nurgle and the resultant war left all of us in a jolly mood to go ahead and fuck off from Huron to cause more chaos.
Then half the party left ooc and the real reign of the Iron Lady began.

While getting geared up to the point that I was little more than half a brain with bits of spine in metal casing (I had as much machine trait as a Necron Lord, let that sink in for a second) I had also been gearing up to fight the party sorcerer until he left, this meant I had built myself to be damn near immune to most psychic bullshit to the point where I could shrug off most psychic based attacks.

Then we hit the ghost ship.

As a note on horror, it's only effective if your party is not comprised of already insane chaos champions and mostly fearless explorers. The ship itself was possessed by a daemon prince, it was I was led to believe his at one point. No amount of mind rape, insane survivors, daemons or Legion of the Fucking Damned whom we stared down like badasses could stop us from claiming that ship.

Another note on horror, make sure that none of your party members are scarier that the monster. My Iron Lady was also an avid ritualist with favours owed by a greater daemon due to previous interactions. She was also very good at binding daemons. Like seriously uncontestable at times.
We put him in a whip and bam! Instant problem solving. Then we traded it for some trinkets if I recall.
Sorry if this recount is rushed or a touch lame, my ability to recant tales of old games ispoor and it's late. If this thread is still up later on I may do some better organised tales. The game had a regrettable lopsidedness towards the end and much to my own regret caused some ire in the group that power had blinded me to.