Matriarchy without stupidity

This looks fake
I know this is a screenshot from a movie, but it looks fake

Doesn't matter, you're /pol/ now.

There were only two good female rulers ever. Marie Theresa of Austria, and Catherine the Great of Russia. Okay tier Maggie Thatcher and Cleopatra. Ohshitvampire tier dutchess Erzebet Bathory. Shit tier every other female ruler

>Just thought it was an interesting idea
Sorry son, having interesting ideas makes you a thought criminal these days.

Report to your local Social Justice Education Centre for rehabilitation.

In our Viking (literally - they're going a-viking) there's a character that comes from a small settlement ruled by witches (magical skill is passed from mother to daughter - or son but men practicing seidr are considered a disgrace).

Not exactly a matriatrchy since it's not all women who enjoy a higher status. Just the portion of them that can heal wounds and control the weather. The men of that society are large, hairy, speak three full words per week between them, and are mostly content to have the particularities of farm management and finance, diplomacy, and marriage arrangements decided by the womenfolk.

sounds like magical realm bullshit to me

Is there anything that doesn't?

National socialism, the game?

What about all the people with Nazi fetishes?

Tall, handsome, blue-eyed, blonde men enjoying exercise in the sun and marching on parades?

No magical realm at all

It's not a fetish of it's a working, workable society

Nazi ideology isn't something I relish (and any kind of socialism sort of turns my stomach because I can't help but feel they're one bad day away from going full-auschwitz on anyone who doesn't agree with them) but their uniforms were sexy as hell.

>Don't have an argument? Say its magical realm!
>The accusation that discredits everything

>national socialism
>workable

>Nazi fetishes
That's primarily due to their uniforms being sexy as hell.
Nazi ideology was shit but they had some pretty damn awesome uniforms.
They were designed by Hugo Boss no joke.

Post-war America is what you want, not National Socialism.

>He hasn't read Dune
Am I being trolled

I have a kingdom that is led by women, but its not matriarchal. That's just how their god of order decided what the natural order was that daughters inherit their mother's titles and possessions, while sons inherit their father's. The first head of state as chosen by the high priestess that carries the full authority of the god of order was a woman, were there uprisings, coups and rebellions sure but the mantra of "overthrowing a female leader because she's female" was never real popular or supported.

The woman of the tribe are more in-tune with the great spirit and thus large-to-mid-level decisions are made by a council of matriarchs.

In a practical military sense this means the council sets objectives and the war-party leaders are free to reach those objectives how they please, many woman can be found on the "general staff" making sure things are being done correctly and in accordance with the law they also handle many logistical and administrative duties.

>Designer uniforms
>Hot Aryan women
>Leather boots
>One of the longest military traditions in Europe
>Male dominated society
>Wonders why men make fetishes of it

>Nazi ideology was shit

yeah okay :P

how's neoliberalism been treating ya lately?

Yeah, this is a somewhat common thread. The attribution of leveragable power to women in society is a pretty good strategy for achieving a state with women in political power. But the societal privilege only extends as far as that leverage does, unless you have women who use their leverage to create a society friendly even to women without that leverage because it aesthetically pleases them to do so. It might seem straightforward that this would happen to someone in modern times, but historically we see that this barely ever happens.

There are references in ancient Chinese trade documents to the Wu people in pre-imperial Japan who were ruled by a powerful sorceress who kept everyone in line by threatening to obliterate them with magic. However much her society had some laws to benefit women, it clearly wasn't thoroughly and systematically matriarchal since they still practiced patrilinear succession in most things.

Sorry, gramps, lot of the kids haven't read the classics. Forget Dune, forget Asimov, even forget Moorcock.

Talk about them on Veeky Forums and you get a whole lot of blank looks.

>Requiem
That is about the edgiest, most tryhard comic I have ever read.
Its basically the worst of 40K mixed with the worst of World of Darkness and taken 110% seriously by the author and fanbase.

That's the joke.

Very well actually, we're living in the best and comfiest time of history by far, my women aren't being raped by victorious Soviet soldiers while I'm sucking off an American for a chocolate bar, the works

>Matriarchy without stupidity
Impossible by definition.

Nobody cares about your disappointment or poor understanding of political systems, idiot.

>110% seriously by the author and fanbase.
Are you fucking joking? The fanbase can get fucked, there will always be fanboys who take everything seriously but the author is on record for not taking it seriously.

It is over the top, gaudy, hilarious and is the most unserious subject matter you can think of.

I mean for fucks sake, you have Frank N Furter strutting around in a dress and a fake arm next to Dracula, in what world is that 110% serious?

>my women aren't being raped
Maybe not by Soviets, granted.

>how's neoliberalism been treating ya lately?
Pretty good. I'd say since we are living in one of the most comfortable times in History

Tell me, when was the last time you were worried about going hungry, or dying of illness, or being caught out in foul weather with no home.

The largest thing that makes people unattractive is OVERindulgence of food

Somalians, Syrians, Iranians and many many more.

Congratulations, your nation is broken.

>neoliberalism
It was not, nor was it ever, liberalism or neoliberalism or whatever snowflake ideology that you self-identify as that got us to here. It was Captalism and Republicanism for the previous 200 years.

>Ignoring the plight of tens of millions of starving people in the US because he is comfy, has money and is fine with his situation
Neoliberalism indeed

>in what world is that 110% serious?
Pfft, you obviously don't get it
Requiem is like, totally a character that I identify with
since he's so tortured and cool. If I was in this comic, I'd totally be requiem
Like all the women want him to fuck him and he and I are just like totally above them so we don't care
he's so angry and tortured, just like me, but just like, too powerful so he holds back.
and like, everyone is always telling him how cool he is, just like me, but I hate everyone so does he so he scoffs and puts them off.

No mention of the Haudenesaunee matrilineal society to poach inspiration from?

And to think, I thought making a history board was unecessary

The majority of these are children, with their parents being addicts and uncaring to the cries of a starving child. Though they are not starving in the sense the rest of the world is actually starving, they are 'food insecure' which is a very broad meaning which can vary from only one parent working in a two parent household to having to be fed by a charity.

Hey, it's not their responsibility to make sure everybody has a home. Or food. Or medical care.

See? It's only stupid addicts and morally bankrupt poor people who starve.

>Neoliberalism indeed
Bud, I delivered food for meals on wheels to food insecure people. Trust me, our system is trying to help.

>Capitalism
Yes, that is the best system we have, it just needs a bit of tweaking
>Republicanism
Yeah fuck no. I don't think beating gay people to death or dragging black people trying to get educated behind your car is very productive.

Take your American Jeesus loves you unless you don't agree with the party line somewhere else

not going to lie, I mostly just hate Nazies because they ruined the swastika.

The only reason a matriarchy would work would be because of a spiritual belief the people share that women are somehow chosen by the gods to be rulers. Spiritual belief is basically the only thing that trumps violence, which men have a huge advantage in and what is the basis of authority in our society.

so just cop out and make up some bullshit about the earth mother or whatever deciding womens are the best at making decisions and have all boys be drilled mercilessly in religious teachings or something.

Nazis also ruined their own badass aesthetic, the german military, eugenics, and nationalism.

Nazis also ruined fitted trenchcoats along with neckbeards

>>Republicanism
>Yeah fuck no. I don't think beating gay people to death or dragging black people trying to get educated behind your car is very productive.
>Take your American Jeesus loves you unless you don't agree with the party line somewhere else

Not the Republican party, Bern-victim, Republicanism. The system of becoming a democratic Republic. FYI, Democrats were the party of the KKK, of lynchings, of Jim Crow and far worse.

And indeed it was, liberal policies and sharing the wealth is impossible without the wealth generated by conservative policies.

>I'm looking at putting a matriarchy in my campaign that doesn't rely on "stronk womyn" to work.
So you are looking for Somalian Queen, Arawelo?
And pretty much any other African female ruler, really

>Rest of the post
Ok, never mind, you just want to run another extreme of matriarchy.
Try Alien Nation's Amazons then

>What is being submissive

>what is everything outside of your sexuality for a teenage boy

It was a shitty movie, and I hate it for the same reasons that you do. Howver, that was a first age elven blade. It pierces shadow things like they were cardboard. The orcs and the great spiders are all shadow things. If Frodo had tossed that shit in the Balrog face, it probably had saved Gandalf in the bridge of Kazad-dum.

Gandalf had his own, better, blade.

Fuck off with your 'if Frodo had...' bullshit.

>If Frodo had...
...MG42s on overwatch positions at the end of the bridge.

Your argument is retarded.

this comic says more than I ever could

Most men are not submissive

Hate to tell you bud, but the Republican party is now basically the party of scared old men that don't understand basic human biology and focus waaay too much on putting chastity belt on children while molesting their own daughters all in the name of American Jeesus.

Democratic and Republican parties are both in the pocket of the MIC of course, thats why the US govt. spent 1.4 Trillion dollars on the new F35 jet that can't even fly yet but still.

Trump Rising.

Wuzetien?
Arawelo?
Isabella I of Castile?
Elisabeth of Russia, which was pretty much Catherine the Great 0.9, but without all the shitty elements of Catherine.

Also, you've misspelled Hatshepsut. Cleopatra was just an ambitious political figure that brought absolutely nothing to her country other than being turned into really shitty province of the emerging Roman Empire.

Most men don't need to be submissive for one single particular user to have submission fetish and being submissive.
It's not a rocket science, really

>That twig

Maragor was such a place.

in universe it was appearantly a really nice and open place until they picked up ritual cannibalism. Kind of went downhill from there.

>Most men don't need to be submissive for one single particular user to have submission fetish and being submissive.
Okay so if a fantasy book details a society in which men are the primary holders of social power, is that magical realm?
Male power fantasy after all
Female submissive fetish after all
>My point is that anything can be fetishized and instead you should look at the objective functionality of such systems rather than worrying about your genitals.

>ritual cannibalism
You can have ritual cannibalism and still have a good society
perhaps its an honoring festival where you eat someone who naturally expired or volunteered?
Suicidal perhaps?
Death penalty receivers perhaps? A symbolic way of society eating its worst criminals?

Cannibalism was just the shitty excuse given for Tolnedra to invade and take all that sweet sweet gold they had just lying around and using for roofing and whatnot, you fucking sheeple. The cannibalism was only ritual and no one was eaten alive or unwilling.Gods, wake the fuck up, Bel'Makor was an inside job.

In this case, I think they ate their enemies.

Or you could make the society hold that women are more intuned with the spiritual realm and/or all other things supernatural and thus make up the priest class which is governing the realm. Males are still the primary "workhorse" in the society and the newer generations, influenced by foreign philosophy have started to question the old way of things. This ofc is cause for great concern amongst the matriarchal oveerlords who see these younglings as dangerous to the wellfare of society and bordering on heresy.

>ate their enemies
Enemies that were already dead or enemies that they captured?
Huge difference

Both.

at some points they sent out raiding parties to find and capture people who came to mine/wash for gold, as their country was literally covered in it...And they never gave enough of a shit to pick any of it up.

>Morale society
>Eats enemies alive

Hey, I did say it went downhill when they started doing that.

Before that perticular religius missunderstanding it was a great place to live.

Historically, most codes of conduct/ law/ custom/ chivalry did not apply to foreigners.

I mean, if they were people they'd live in our village

What about Ogla of Kiev?

Yes they did, as most were given over to ransoming knights and trained soldiers back to their native country.

Stop making up lies to support a retarded argument.

And my point is that in the original post someone - maybe you, maybe someone else - made a claim how teenage boy sexuality can't be compatibile with what obviously was described as being submissive.
In the end, my point is that maybe the original user, describing his fantasy, is just submissive in nature, but that doesn't make it any less a sexual fantasy based on fetish he has

That rule is pretty much exclusive for early and high medieval period in western Europe... and nowhere else, you stupid cunt.

Everyone else was always applying their local law to everyone, foreigners included.

>What is the Holy Roman Empire
>What is the Papal States

Absolutely average ruler.

She was much better and important as religious figure, but that's also blown out of proportions - her grandson did all the hard work long after her death.

More, one can argue that Kievan Rus started to decline under her rule, but that wasn't related with her personally, just the "country" getting into not exactly prosperous period. So while she wasn't anything special, she most definitely managed to slow down the decline, but not prevent it in any way.

Try the Pride of Chanur, by C.J. Cherryh.

Males in hani society are seen as unthinking brutes whose main purpose in life is to fight other males and sire children. They are divided into clans, with each clan nominally headed by a male puppet ruler while his female relatives handle the politics, and coddle the clan head to stop him from flying into a berserker rage. Male children are exiled into the wilderness when they come of age, hone their fighting skills by surviving and fighting other exiled males, and might aspire to one day defeat a clan head and take over his clan.

Over the course of the books, several characters come to realize that this actually is incredibly stupid.

Matriarchy would be chaos. Constantly at war over the smallest perceived slights. Make sure to accurately depict a society of chaos, death, and fear.

except succession. That perticular detail would probably be more stable as its hard to deny wether or not a perticular person came out of the queen or not.

Harder to prove/disprove wether or not the count screwed the maid/peasant/second cousin a few years back.

Idea I had bouncing around that I'll never use, knowing my group they'd go full magical realm: women make for more consistent mages, and when pregnant can leech of their children for mana/spell slots/what have you. Often this means miscarriages or children being born completely incapable of magic, but higher level magic than normally allowed.

Or you steal from a book I vaguely recall from high school where high level male mages have a bad tendency to go insane because reasons. Thus they never tend to reign too long, and are mistrusted whenever they come into power.

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>and when pregnant can leech of their children for mana/spell slots/what have you. Often this means miscarriages or children being born completely incapable of magic, but higher level magic than normally allowed.

I'm really hoping that this practice is frowned on.

>I'm really hoping that this practice is frowned on.
It's her body, user, she can do what she likes with it.

You're not one of those backward-thinking bible-bashing pro-lifers are you?

>not sacrificing a baby for magical power
Do you even cast, bro?

>It's her body, user, she can do what she likes with it.

Before she is pregnant it is her body, for the following 9 months it is no longer hers. If you get a room mate to share an appartment is no longer your appartment, it is shared. It does not give you permission to kill them.

Best girl but that's it

I assume you've never worked in a majority female environment with female management. Try it out, then tell me this is bait. :) PS. am female

The asshole's stealing all your food, making you sick, and riding your genitals.

Someone gets the boot whenever you damn well please.

It just strikes me as the equivalent of a male alchemist that after jacking off uses his own cum in the healing potions he makes

*cough*wheeloftime*cough*

That analogy is missing all the context involved in the difference between a developing fetus and a shared apartment.

For extra life energy, you understand.

>:)
>PS. am female
user, I know you can do better than this.

>for the following 9 months it is no longer hers
Please tell me you are just trolling and it's not your own genuine perception