Desired scans : Black Powder supplements Rank and File supplements Harpoon 3 & 4 supplements Force on Force supplements Hind Commander At Close Quarters War and Conquest
Josiah Rivera
6th September in military history:
394 – Battle of the Frigidus: Roman Emperor Theodosius I defeats and kills the usurper Eugenius. His Frankish magister militum Arbogast escapes but commits suicide two days later 1634 – Thirty Years' War: In the Battle of Nördlingen the Catholic Imperial army defeats Protestant armies of Sweden and Germany. 1781 – The Battle of Groton Heights takes place, resulting in a British victory. 1861 – American Civil War: Forces under Union General Ulysses S. Grant bloodlessly capture Paducah, Kentucky, giving the Union control of the Tennessee River's mouth. 1939 – World War II: At the Battle of Barking Creek, Britain suffers its first fighter pilot casualty of the Second World War as a result of friendly fire. 1939 – World War II: South Africa declares war on Nazi Germany. 1944 – World War II: The city of Ypres, Belgium is liberated by Allied forces. 1944 – World War II: Soviet forces capture the city of Tartu, Estonia. 1965 – India retaliates following Pakistan's Operation Grand Slam which results in the Indo-Pakistani War of 1965 that ends in a stalemate and follows the signing of the Tashkent Declaration. 1972 – Munich massacre: Nine Israel athletes taken hostage at the Munich Olympic Games by the Palestinian "Black September" terrorist group die (as did a German policeman) at the hands of the kidnappers during a failed rescue attempt. 1976 – Cold War: Soviet Air Force pilot Lieutenant Viktor Belenko lands a Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-25 jet fighter at Hakodate on the island of Hokkaidō in Japan and requests political asylum in the United States; his request is granted. 1983 – The Soviet Union admits to shooting down Korean Air Lines Flight 007, stating that the pilots did not know it was a civilian aircraft when it violated Soviet airspace. 2007 – Israel executes an air strike, Operation Orchard, to destroy a nuclear reactor in Syria.
Isaiah Richardson
It is 77 years since the "Battle" of Barking Creek, a friendly fire incident which resulted in the first death of a British fighter pilot in the Second World War.
At 6.15am on 6 September 1939, unidentified aircraft were reported approaching from the east at high altitude over West Mersea, on the Essex coast. In response, six Hurricanes were ordered to be scrambled from 56 Squadron, based at North Weald Airfield in Essex. For some unknown reason, the Squadron’s CO, Group Captain Lucking, sent up his entire unit. In addition to these, and unbeknown to the rest of the pilots, two Pilot Officers took up a pair of reserve aircraft and followed at a distance, destined to be the targets of the mistaken attack.
Additionally, 151 Squadron’s Hurricanes (also from North Weald), and Spitfires from 54, 65, and 74 Squadrons based at Hornchurch Airfield scrambled. With the war only three days old, none of the Royal Air Force pilots had seen combat, and very few had ever seen a German plane. Communications between planes and command centres were poor. There was no identifying procedure for pilots to distinguish between enemy and friendly aircraft.
With everyone in the air expecting to see enemy aircraft, and no experience of having done so, the conditions readily lent themselves to misunderstanding. 'A' Flight of 74 Squadron saw what they believed were enemy planes and their commanding officer, Adolph "Sailor" Malan, allegedly gave a clear and definite order to engage. Two of the three, Flying Officer Vincent 'Paddy' Byrne and Pilot Officer John Freeborn, opened fire.
Malan later claimed to have given a last minute call of 'friendly aircraft – break away!' but, whether this actually happened or not, the call was not heard by the attacking pilots.
Justin Morris
One Hurricane was piloted by Frank Rose, who was shot down but survived. Pilot Officer Montague Hulton-Harrop, however, did not survive. Fired upon by John Freeborn, he was hit in the back of the head; he was dead before his plane crashed at Manor Farm, Hintlesham, Suffolk, approximately five miles west of Ipswich. He was the first British pilot fatality of the war. His Hurricane was also the first plane shot down by a Spitfire. The entire air-raid warning turned out to be false.
Both Byrne and Freeborn were, along with Group Captain Lucking, placed under close arrest immediately after the incident. The ensuing court martial at Fighter Command's Bentley Priory headquarters was held in camera, and, as of 2016, the papers have not been released.
However, it is well known that Freeborn felt that his commanding Officer, Sailor Malan, tried to evade responsibility for the attack. Malan testified for the prosecution against his own pilots, stating that Freeborn had been irresponsible, impetuous, and had not taken proper heed of vital communications. During the trial, Freeborn's counsel, Sir Patrick Hastings, called Malan a bare-faced liar. Hastings's deputy in defending the pilots was Roger Bushell, later to be incarcerated with Paddy Byrne at Stalag Luft III and become the mastermind of the Great Escape.
The court completely exonerated both of the Spitfire pilots, ruling the case as an unfortunate accident.
One history summarises it thus: "This tragic shambles, hushed up at the time, was dubbed in the RAF ‘the Battle of Barking Creek’ – a place several miles from the shooting-down but one which, like Wigan Pier, was a standing joke in the music halls."
It has been suggested by RAF historians that the incident exposed the inadequacies of RAF radar and identification procedures, leading to them being greatly improved by the crucial period of the Battle of Britain.
Grayson Diaz
Montague Hulton-Harrop is buried with a war grave headstone at St Andrew's Church in North Weald. Group Captain Lucking was removed from his post as Commanding Officer of 56 Squadron. Frank Rose was killed in action over Vitry-en-Artois, France, on 18 May 1940.
Sailor Malan went on to be one of the most successful Allied fighter pilots of the war, shooting down 27 Luftwaffe planes and rising to Group Captain. He received the Distinguished Service Order and bar and the Distinguished Flying Cross. On his return to South Africa he worked against the apartheid regime until his death in 1963.
Paddy Byrne was shot down and captured over France in 1940. He was detained at Stalag Luft III alongside his former defence lawyer Roger Bushell. In 1944 he was repatriated, having convinced the Germans and the repatriation board that he was mad. On his return to England he was reinstated into the RAF and given a ground position.
John Freeborn flew for the rest of the war and proved to be an outstanding airman. He flew more operational hours in the Battle of Britain than any other pilot. He was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross and bar and rose to Wing Commander. In 2009 Freeborn told an interviewer of his regret about Hulton-Harrop's death, saying, "I think about him nearly every day. I always have done... I've had a good life, and he should have had a good life too". Freeborn died on 28 August 2010.
'Friendly fire' is not something that is usually factored into wargames; there's less confusion and more time to think when gazing down on a tabletop then through a gunsight. But it is something that needs to be taken into account in rulesets where such events are possible.
Would anyone know a good paint match for this uniform? It's the old pre-ww2 Norwegian Army color. They changed it later to a green, but I prefer the older color and want to paint my (eventual) army like this.
Jason Morris
Vallejos Luftwaffe blue/grey colors maybe?
Aaron Hughes
Vallejo Green Grey, That's used for Finnish Uniforms and the colours look reasonably similar.
Anthony Myers
Cool, thanks. I'll give it a look.
David Baker
You can pretty much use almost any WW1 figures with some minor conversions.
Upcoming Claymore Castings Early HYW makes my nipples tingle in delight.
Mason Lee
>Sweet, a couple of days off and I can get some quality man doll painting time in. >Mate rings up and asks for a hand for the week. >Oh well, more money for future tiny men then!
That range look perfect for D&Dish character models. Not convinced by the other foot knights though, I think the Perry Miniatures plastics look better (if later).
Ayden Bailey
>more money for future tiny men then! And they'll do tiny fights too!
About the Perry knights, I prefer these to be honest. For me, the Early Hundred Years are THE medieval period, full plate made knights look boring. And yeah, I want to use this one as a fantasy skirmish character...
Zachary Foster
>full plate made knights look boring Shut your fucking whore mouth.
Carson Thomas
>Not convinced by the other foot knights though the one with the big spiked club is pretty good, as is this guy
Luis Gonzalez
You can still paint plate. May not stay on that well, but hey, if it's fantasy or just some flash bastard who hasn't been in a fight since he touched up the paint job...
Christopher Gomez
Yeah I'd like to use them for Bretonnians as there's bugger all Early/Mid 14th Century stuff.
I think he's got you Uncle, I love the late C15th too but it's no giant nasal guard and great helms.
Carson Rogers
>tfw still no 28mm catarina armour, however ahistorical
Jaxson Morales
I more meant O14.
Traitor. You play(ed) Bretonnians, I play(ed) Empire. That says it all really. I'm more of a 1415-1520s fella. I just love the idea of kniggets running around firing hand cannons at one another.
>the second figure shown is wearing a very decorative armour in the style of Landsknecht dress. He is in a very relaxed confident pose, his helmet is an early form of Burgonet and he has a serrated Zweihander.
Michael Martin
Those minis are nice, but too expensive - especially their newer mounted ones, like 16GBP for a single one...for a couple pounds more you get an entire box of Perrys knights, or for half the price(!) you get a Foundry knight. As nice as they are, they are fucking expensive, a unit of 10 would cost 80GBP.
Cooper Evans
I mean, there's the Dark Souls board game when that comes out.
Probably be bigger than 28mm though.
Christopher Green
your to do list is very messy.
Jose Cruz
Oh neat! Thanks for scanning that!
Evan Hill
That knight looks totally badass.
I'm not into knights but i really consider picking up a few of these
Xavier Taylor
Please tell me those renaissance knights are available for purchase somewhere
I love that someone has actually bothered to do fully armoured bods in something more than just walking poses. I'd not want a whole big block of dynamically posed troops but I'd love a few of these just for adding character to the front rank or skirmishing.
Connor Moore
lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=87544.150 seems to hint that you could buy them outside the kickstarter. Might be worth contacting him directly? Let us know how you get on!
Christopher Gomez
holy shit im buying all those miniatures and terrain this week.
Benjamin Cook
Hey Black Powder ACW user, how's the scanning going?
Jackson Kelly
This one is my favorite out of the lot.
Liam James
I swear this thread is slowly morphing into the 28mm FIW/AWI general
I'm not against that
Aiden Scott
Why would you want to do something other people are already doing? Unless youre nearby that user and are playing with him
at least make some unique terrain
Evan Gray
Heh yeah, while my AWI is more of aside project its weird to see the exact stuff i was planning on getting
First of all fuck you, second of all my project is a skirmish one and im using a unique/combined ruleset
Adrian Cooper
>this post I'm pretty sure it is common to see people get product for a popular conflict from a popular manufacturer. That's not weird at all. Why would you specifically not want to get something just because someone you don't know on the internet has it?
Anthony Jackson
Because I am a special snowflake!
Thomas Turner
Because The Aristocrats!
Lincoln Ward
It just seems stupid to have 5 people here making identical projects
Austin Long
getting quads doesn't make you right.
It's either coincidence or inspiration, and I'm not sure either of those is stupid. This general isn't designed to create a bunch of people making projects with no overlap.
Lincoln Wilson
WOW! some people like the same things! who knew! You're a fucking retard.
Jaxson Smith
So that Renaissance Knights KS everyone was getting all hot and bothered about upthread?
Yeah, they're doing another one, this time for mounted units.
And Veeky Forums is a twat and won't let me link it.
Caleb Hernandez
Aha, but I *CAN* link to the BoW article that then links to the kickstarter itself
I just dont see how if youre making the exact same thing as a bunch of other people how it can possibly have any personality to it
Joshua Watson
But people AREN'T making the same thing are they?
One lad has the 46th Devonshire for F&IW/AWI one appears to have a lot of Indians.
I have Compagnies Franche de la Marine and Indians for F&IW and 1st and 2nd Rhode Island for AWI.
The projects are different focusing on different sides in different theatres of the similar conflicts.
Fuck off.
Anthony Nelson
This doesn't make any sense. Hundreds to thousands of people have made armies before for most periods, how can it be possible to make a worthwhile project for any of them in your logic?
Nathan Williams
>same figures >same period >same colours >same terrain pieces
Its unimaginative and devoid of life
Elijah Thompson
I think we might be getting le trolled lads
>same colours reminder that painting your soldiers in appropriate uniforms is unimaginative and devoid of life!
Luis Morales
All in favour of ignoring shit post Johnny here say AYE.
Jonathan Sanchez
I more meant for the native americans, appropriate uniforms is fine. I just dont see the point of browsing this thread. seeing someones project and opting to copy it.
Jayden Kelly
What do you suggest for the native americans though? They had a certain skin colour, preferred dyes for their clothes and common colours for warpaint, theres only so "unique" you can be.
As says they aren't identical copy projects. I have pure Indians, and the other guys have British and French with [appropriate!] allied Indians. However you try to spin it, they aren't identical and they aren't copies.
Jordan Watson
Mate, I wouldn't bother. He's either a retard or pretending to be a retard.
Justin Long
Im sorry that I dont see the appeal of having identical projects to others.
Still feels all very similar, like everyone playing space marines in 40k
Jeremiah Diaz
Well again mr asshole, these others are doing full conflicts either FIW or AWI which are different whereas mine is close to that tv show TURN. Just because we use warlord figures doesnt mean shit
Angel Barnes
>Im sorry that I dont see the appeal of having identical projects to others. You are confusing appeal with not being a deterrent.
The APPEAL isn't that other people are doing the project, the appeal (for me at least) is the history surrounding it, the painting of things I enjoy painting and liking the look of the rules I plan to use. The fact that other people like the same time period and maybe even the same rules is not a deterrent to the above appeals.
James Jenkins
Honestly the only bad thing about seeing other people with similar projects is seeing how much better painters they are than me, otherwise it feels like a community of similar experiences and challenges with differing rulesets/army comps.
Blake Collins
>I dont see the appeal of having identical projects to others. None of them have identical projects, just similar starting points. One of my favorite types of competition is when you hand a group of people identical sacks of materials.Seeing how they take their tools, skills, and knowledge (not to mention research skills, in the case of /hwg/ and re-enactments) - and watching how each solves "problems" that might not even exist for others - is always a fascinating process.
The local Flames of War scene, for example, has at least five different Mid-war Soviet armor groups. All have very similar composition, using identical miniatures, yet each player has put different flair into the force and slightly tweaked it to his/her own tastes. Stowage, terrain and basing choices, modeled tank riders, &c. all make each one unique.
So when goes "hey I'm buying the same stuff" I can guaran-fucking-tee that they'll have two completely different-looking forces by the time they're done regardless of hte starting point.
Sit back, shut the fuck up, and watch someone enjoy the process for a bit before you start waving your wrinkly pud around trying to squeeze its last drop of piss out on someone else after having had your morning drink.
Oliver Cox
Something a little unusual but maybe interesting. I have here the Turnierbuch, part of the famous 'Triumphs of Maximilian I'
This is a collection of copies of preparatory drawings by Hans Burgkmair the Elder, most likely made by his son. It's some good eye candy and a useful reference for anyone who wants to paint Renaissance knights.
Austin Robinson
dont thank me. thank my club. they were the ones that stepped up and got it done for you!
Christopher Jenkins
Nice, I've only had bits of this in un-postable xboxheug sized .jpgs previously.
Thomas Reyes
Gorgeous, thanks user.
Hunter Hernandez
This. Keep /hwg/ comfy, don't respond to bait/morons
John Nelson
For those interested there's also the Book of Armaments which is basically the same thing but for cannons.
It's 560 pages long and a pretty huge file though, so you can get that one yourselves if you want it
Thank you immensely. Gonna add these to the end of the Drill Treatise pastebin tonight. I'll be keeping an eye out for more early books on cannon and firearms fabrication as well, it's a particular hobby of mine but I've been busy doing up 6mm modern/SF/PA terrain and household maintenance of late.
Liam Bennett
This is easily my favourite page.
Owen Morris
That website also has a tasty selection of armorials and other manuscripts.
Eh, it's not too bad for command models or line-stiffeners. There's only seven basic models, after all. Granted, that 16# for three models will also get you just this side of six Perry metal Kinghts in-the-white, but they're in outdated/trashy armor for the late Renaissance.
Of course, you could also hawk up the 30# for the set of sixteen heads and plumes, get a free mini into the bargain, and tack them onto a Perry Plastics box for some character - let's be honest, some of the heads in there suck ass. I'll probably drop some dosh into this with my birthday money.
I saw, and the calligrapher in me is pissing himself with glee at the missals and Books of Hours in there. I've got to leave for work in a few, though, so I've pretty much spent my hobby time for the day.
Charles Barnes
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Anthony Flores
LAV-75
Alexander Wright
AYE
Tyler Foster
LCVP Higgins
Well Veeky Forums I've begun the epic journey of painting and basing all my 1/72 WW2 minis. No more will cardboard be my base. Starting with 70 bases, but I have probably 200 in total to do... Entire Soviet, US, Wehrmacht, British, Royal Italian and Imperial Japanese Infantry Battalions (something like 20+ platoons for each faction) I've been putting it off for 5 or 6 years, so high time I committed.
Also going to do up some Japanese MG nests (the 1" X 1" squares) so that should be fun - essentially a small built up grassy area with an MG poking out.
Levi Hill
About time as well.
Looks like you could stand to paint them and get proper storage too.
Josiah Thompson
thank god your minis have been ass. Welcome to the glory zone
Ethan Parker
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Julian Stewart
Why play on a curved table? is it so you can reach everything, but then why not just a normal rectangle. Im confused
Daniel Wright
It's a panoramic picture user, the table's not curved.
Jackson Cruz
It's not curved though, it's a panoramic shot
Brandon Anderson
im a retard
Carter Lewis
Probably a little bit yeah.
Henry Torres
faggot
Thomas Wright
fucking libraries stamping the shit out of old manuscripts
Adam Lewis
can´t stop immagining Elizabeth like Queenie, blackadder ruined me
Nathan Evans
As it happens that same company (TAG Miniatures) do a set based on Blackadder S2, called "The Cunning Courtier".
Zachary Butler
Glad to see that your minis finally get some more love.
They deserve it user! Take your time and keep us informed. I always like to see your stuff.
What material are the new bases made from? Mdf?
Noah Hall
Glad to hear. Make sure you get some plastidip to prevent chipping on soft plastic. And post progress, 1:72 warms my heart
Luis Torres
Balsa wood. Nice and easy to work with, had them all cut and beveled within about 30 min.
Holy shit we just playtested an Okinawa type scenario - U.S. Force outnumbering a heavily dug in Japanese force. one of the most heart-breaking games I've ever played - U.S. infantry fight their way through the forest, dislodging MG nests, and finally make it to the objective hill, running out of the forest directly into a kill zone of bunker systems... 7 platoons all dead. Gonna have to up the points for the allies in that scenario: from 150% the points value of the Japanese force to 200%. Bunkers are brutal, but me and my buddy devised a way to deal with the situation: send in Sherman flame tanks first, get mortars to lay smoke, and send the infantry in at the very last minute, once the infantry in the bunkers had been thinned out a bit. Bunkers may be brutal, but Flame tanks are equally brutal.
Elijah Morgan
Plastidip, where would you get that in Europe ? Also, spray or the can to actually dip the mini in or paint it on ? (Not the user you recommended it to btw)
Charles Sanchez
Check if your country has a distributor, mine has, I order directly from them. Get the transparent spray, that's what you need.
William Campbell
>Plastidip
Never heard of that stuff, but literally the first result in google for me:
Anyone knows a thing about next edition of Ambush Alley?
Owen Lopez
Less focus on vehicles, supposedly reworking reactions to some degree, giving the book a not shit layout. There's bits and pieces posted on the AAG forums.
Robert Lewis
Since I didn't/couldn't get Force on Force, I think I should get this...even tho it's scenario based, fingers crossed for a points system.
But on a slightly related note, Ironfist said they are working on a Cold War version for their own system too, so I might just leave AA/FoF where it is.
