Desired scans : Black Powder supplements Rank and File supplements Harpoon 3 & 4 supplements Force on Force supplements Hind Commander At Close Quarters War and Conquest
John Cooper
10th of September in military history:
1547 – The Battle of Pinkie Cleugh, the last full-scale military confrontation between England and Scotland, resulting in a decisive victory for the forces of Edward VI. 1776 – American Revolutionary War: Nathan Hale volunteers to spy for the Continental Army. 1798 – At the Battle of St. George's Caye, British Honduras defeats Spain. 1813 – The United States defeats the British Fleet at the Battle of Lake Erie during the War of 1812. 1897 – Lattimer massacre: A sheriff's posse kills 20 unarmed immigrant miners in Pennsylvania, United States. 1898 – Empress Elisabeth of Austria is assassinated by Luigi Lucheni. 1918 – Russian Civil War: The Red Army captures Kazan. 1919 – Austria and the Allies sign the Treaty of Saint-Germain-en-Laye recognizing the independence of Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia. 1939 – World War II: The submarine HMS Oxley is mistakenly sunk by the submarine HMS Triton near Norway and becomes the Royal Navy's first loss. 1939 – World War II: Canada declares war on Nazi Germany, joining the Allies – Poland, France, the United Kingdom, New Zealand and Australia. 1942 – World War II: The British Army carries out an amphibious landing on Madagascar to re-launch Allied offensive operations in the Madagascar Campaign. 1943 – World War II: German forces begin their occupation of Rome. 2000 – Operation Barras successfully frees six British soldiers held captive for over two weeks and contributes to the end of the Sierra Leone Civil War. 2002 – Switzerland, traditionally a neutral country, joins the United Nations.
Matthew Price
It is 16 years since Operation Barras, a British Army raid that took place in Sierra Leone. The operation aimed to release five British soldiers of the Royal Irish Regiment who had been held by a militia group known as the "West Side Boys". The soldiers were part of a patrol that was returning from a visit to Jordanian peacekeepers attached to the UN Mission in Sierra Leone when they turned off the main road and down a track. There the patrol was overwhelmed by a large number of heavily armed rebels and taken prisoner.
The British Army negotiated the release of six of the eleven men on the patrol, but were not able to gain the freedom of their Sierra Leone Army liaison and the other men before the West Side Boys' demands became increasingly unrealistic. Negotiators concluded that these were delaying tactics; by 9 September, the soldiers had been held for over a fortnight. Fearing that the soldiers would be killed or moved to a location from which it would be more difficult to extract them, the British government authorised an assault on the West Side Boys' base, to take place at dawn the following day.
The ground operation was conducted by D Squadron, 22 Regiment Special Air Service—who assaulted Gberi Bana in a bid to extract the Royal Irish—and elements of 1st Battalion, Parachute Regiment (1 PARA), who launched a diversionary assault on Magbeni. The operation freed the five soldiers as well as twenty-one Sierra Leonean civilians who had been held prisoner by the West Side Boys. At least twenty-five West Side Boys were killed in the assault, as was one British soldier, while eighteen West Side Boys—including the gang's leader, Foday Kallay—were taken prisoner and later transferred to the custody of the Sierra Leone Police. Many West Side Boys fled the area during the assault, and over 300 surrendered to UNAMSIL forces within a fortnight.
Daniel Martin
Several decorations were awarded to the personnel who took part in Operation Barras, including two Conspicuous Gallantry Crosses, five Military Crosses (one of which was awarded to the officer who took command of the operation in Magbeni after the OC was injured), and five Distinguished Flying Crosses. Holmes (Director Special Forces) was awarded the Distinguished Service Order for his part in the operation. Tinnion (the KIA trooper) received a posthumous Mention in Despatches. (The British Ministry of Defence, following traditional policy, did not officially acknowledge the involvement of special forces, issuing a press release which made no mention of the SAS; but when it was made public that Tinnion was a Lance Bombardier originally from 29 Commando Regiment Royal Artillery, it became clear to experts that Tinnion had been serving with special forces. Operation Barras was Tinnion's first operational deployment as an SAS trooper.)
Barras is the kind of "Hollywood", high-action special forces raid that plays out perfectly on the tabletop. There were a lot of variables in play here, and bad luck/poor choices could have turned things into a fiasco. One possibly for play would be having the SAS player working against a referee, rather than two players fighting each other. The actions of the West Side Boys could be determined by 'chance cards' or the like, with the SAS player having to draw up a tactical plan then trying to keep it together when the shooting starts.
Missed the KoW:Historicals discussion in the last thread, but I'm going to throw in on the "excited" side of it.
I don't really think its a game aimed at current historical players but more guys who play Sci-Fi and fantasy stuff who are interested in historicals. Or groups like mine which is "historical" in that we mainly play FoW but dabble in other rule-sets.
It's also great because now I don't have to convince my friends to buy into a particular period when they might not be interested in it but a completely different one. I can put together the Roman army I've always been wanting and it will see the table more than once in a blue moon. Sure they might face off against Vikings or Samurai (or even some Dark Elves) and never see an opposing army they actually fought. But I don't care, none of them care.
Owen Rivera
For any fans of Rapid Fire (or indeed, anyone interested in fast-play casual WW2 gaming), here's the 2E rules from 2005 - up until now we just had 1994's 1E.
STOP I DID NOTHING TO DESERVE THIS. IM SICK OF THIS BEING IN EVERY THREAD PLEASE JUST LEAVE ME ALONE.
Daniel Nelson
Anyone got any suggestions for miniature makers for ww2 15mm bits & bobs like barrels and other things? Planning on sprucing up my patrol markers and jump off points for CoC, and just want to browse pictures on a web shop and plan it out.
Jaxon Hill
Just report it and move on.
>Global Rules
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Austin Perez
Finished up 10 bases of Russians in winter uniform (not snow suits, just heavier jackets and ushanka's)
Vast improvement over carboard bases and unpainted minis!
They're 1:72 italieri minis, and the snow was done by mixing flock with PVA to make a thick paste and then applying with a thin flat tool.
Joshua White
Dont start im allowed to fucking complain about this. Youre not being targeted by some anonymous pussy so stfu
Alexander Allen
those are painted?
Liam Scott
Seeing as Flames Of War is 15mm, surely Battlefront have some goodies available?
Jaxon Ward
dead thread
Zachary Thompson
>Missed the KoW:Historicals discussion in the last thread, but I'm going to throw in on the "excited" side of it. Yeah, I'm going "what 30 lists that's fuck-all to cover thousands of years" but there's nothing wrong with a fun game to push toy soldiers around and roll dice with.
>Hellenistic kings often acted with a degree of chivalrousness towards their opponents; when Demetrios Poliorketes was defeated in his first battle, Ptolemy his enemy returned his prisoners because he was only a beginner.
Why don't you have an army for the period, friends?
Carter Bennett
Hellenistic kings were not really "chivalrous" as we understand it. Release of prisoners like that is an easy way to tell someone you aren't in any way scared of them and can afford to return 8000 men of fighting ability like it's nothing.
Saying it's because of inexperience doesn't make it any more genuine chivalry in the same way each of the successor states claimed to be the "saviour" (Soter) of the Greek people who would liberate those under the rule of the other tyrants. So many Hellenistic kings took the epithet Soter but went on to be just as tyrannical as all the rest, it's all just PR.
Kevin Gray
You're still not me, m8. Calm your tits.
I think PSC has a 15mm stowage set for Germans with such items in it.
Easton Hall
Good catch, FoW miniatures usually come in boxes of way too much for me, so I didn't even think of looking at them.
Already I see some camels, which are great animals so I want them.
Carter Mitchell
Could do with a wash to bring out the details and make them less flat-looking.
William Ortiz
Continuing the command unit theme. I posted the Lagertha mini the other day I did up for my wife's SAGA Vikings. A viking needs a ride, and the box for this had been sitting on my shelf for a little over a year, so I felt today would be a good day to build this before my Bolt Action Desert Rats arrived. So here's an appropriate vehicle for her army commander.
Total time to build, 8 hours (started Thursday evening). The hardest part was decaling 45 shields (the teal Lagertha heraldry was painted on the others, mostly because I was sick of decals).
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Matthew Turner
How to make a waterline mini out of a non-waterline mini? Assemble hull, apply belt sander.
The oars are stacked because if they're out, it becomes too large to use as a gaming piece. If they're vertical, you can't get minis off and on the ship. So they have to be stacked. Note that this *is* a gaming piece, and not a display model.
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Dylan Peterson
Holy crap mate, that's awesome. Just needs some heads swinging from the mast!
Andrew Baker
We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.
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Brody Reed
Sexy.
Lincoln Butler
not gonna lie, id blow you to play with you
Cameron Jones
What model is it? Looks awesome.
Jonathan Collins
It's a Revell 1:50 scale "Viking Ship". Model number is 05403. It's not a very good kit (the rigging stays on the inside of the hull, for example, tend to rip off once you attach the lines and put them under the requisite tension), but again, this is a gaming piece and not a display model, so it's good *enough*.
Oh, and it comes with a giant Viking decal to put on the sail for some godawful reason. And at least on mine, it came with no prow on the sprue, so I ended up throwing that spiral up there out of Milliput and painting it as an iron prow.
Bright side, it's only like $24 on Amazon.
Don't feel bad. Among other things, my wife does exactly that.
Dominic Ramirez
>Total time to build, 8 hours (started Thursday evening)
Shit, that's amazing.
It's hard for me to tell for sure because of the lighting, but the quilted effect on the sail is absolutely gorgeous. That looks like an actual cloth sail you somehow managed to get on there. Really well done, mate. Keep this up and we'll dub you an honourary Brit, since Americans can't into historicals.
I see a stay (aft port quarter) which is missing a line in your second picture. Did you fully rig the ship, or did you leave some lines off? I don't blame you if you did; too many lines would make it hard to use as a playing piece.
Alexander Perry
Is this the 1:50 revell kit?
Sebastian Gutierrez
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Christopher Roberts
Yeah, i noticed as i scrolled further down. But thanks.
>it's only like $24 on Amazon.
Its often way cheaper than that on Ebay. I have one in my stash too. Got it for 7€ 2 years ago. Its still waiting for the time i finally start to build a viking warband.
By the way, the kit is from 1977, that explains the quality and fit.
Isn't the hull now open where you sanded it down? Did you apply some sort of "base" to give it more stability?
Jacob Diaz
Is this the Revell ship? Looking really nice.
John Parker
Derp, read the rest of the comments later, sorry senpai.
Jaxon Lewis
>my wife does exactly that.
You son of a gun
Cooper Perez
>can my dudes can reroll their armor saves if I blow you?
Mason Young
Now that's a houserule.
Sebastian Bailey
Bolt action IS-3 guy from yesterday here, decided to take it last night. Good job I did, my opponent had a Pz IV and a Panther. Took both out in turn 4 and 5, after getting immobilised in turn 1. The Panther hit my IS-3 every turn, and that was the most it did. I'd call that a result!
In the end, I very nearly won the game; Top secret scenario, and I failed a morale check on my objective-carrying unit when they were 8" from my board edge. I foolishly left them out of the soft cover 12" from my board edge in my haste to get them away, and they just took far too many pins. He also managed to snipe my Lieutenant, so he did well to force a draw. It was a fun game overall, but I think the IS-3 is definitely better suited to larger games, rather than 1250. We're planning a 2v1 of two German forces vs my Soviets, so that should be fun.
Alexander Watson
I'll also add that while my Forward Artillery Observer's strike failed to hit anything, I did get 12" for the distance... And put more pin markers on most of his army than we had. That was fun.
Lucas Brown
I got a broken and half assedly assembled Nebelwerfer undercoated in black last Sunday from a garage-sale kind of thing along with 6 tanks, and half track and 3 German cars, all for around 10 Euros. Most of them are in good enough shape to repair, they just need some TLC. I fixed the Nebelwerfer and painted it, plus added some Caesar crew too. Couldn't fit four on the base, plus I didn't have a fitting fourth artillery crewmen, but for the amount of money I paid for it, I'm generally happy with it.
Sorry for the crapp-ish pic, got a new-old camera I'm still not entirely familiar with.
Jeremiah Hernandez
Just make sure it has plenty of nebel with which to werf, user.
Andrew Hill
i assume they play tested those lists and checked them against the fantasy armies as well. That is no mean feat.
Also those 33 lists cover the nations 90% of players will be interested in anyway.
Ryder Phillips
As long as they have both sides of the TYW and RJW, They're ok by me.
Question is, do they actually capture any of the flavor of those forces and how they operate, or do they just generalize everything? Historical tabletop games thrive on period-specific flavor.
Nicholas Bennett
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Eli Perry
BA Norwegianfag here. You guys were right. No theorycrafting for me, it's all lost in the fog of war of babies, milk and diapers. I can't remember if I asked this (I may have) but what's a good color and make for the M1914 Norwegian army uniform from before it transitioned to the newer green? Pic related, it's more blue-grey.
Caleb Ward
Congrats again on becoming a dad
>I can't remember if I asked this (I may have)
Yes you did, last thread. Two anons recommended Vallejo Green Grey, the same as for Finnish uniforms.
Brandon Sullivan
Didn't they recommend Grey Green (which is the one recommended for Finns, btw), Vallejo Model Color 866? (Green Grey i VMC886, so it's easy to confuse the two...)
Gabriel Ward
What about this:
>Vallejo 70.816 Luftwaffe Uniform WK2
John Bennett
Oh wow, haha thanks. This time I'll actually write it down for later, when her sleep cycle isn't set to cry-eat-poop-sleep every 2 hrs.
Eli James
you dont wnat Grey Green, you want Green Grey
Jackson Jackson
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Nathan Stewart
Damnit, I misremembered. Well, I did say it was easy to confuse the two... (And now I wonder why I have a bottle of grey green, if it wasn't for my finns...)
Asher Wood
Haha I made same mistkae with my FoW Finns years ago.
It's used in British webbing most I think. it's alos quite a good colour for add ing to highlights of Olive drabs.
Benjamin Cruz
Here is a youtube video with a battle report of BA norwegians. I found the link in todays Warlord Games newsletter and thought you might be interested in watching it:
For Bolt Action players: Where can I find the rules for the weapon type Launcher? My opponent claims it only ever hits on 6+ which I find wierd.
Xavier Howard
Like the howling cow?
Rules should be in the Ostfrond book
Carter Butler
>Like the howling cow? No, like the VB 'noob tube' for the French army. It isn't explained in the book and there is no weapon type called 'Launcher'
Sebastian Diaz
afaik it uses the same rule as the knee mortar of the japs. (i.e. light mortar)
Jeremiah Wright
Which uses the indirect fire rule. Unfortunate. It never hits.
Oliver Reed
but if it does...
Carter Garcia
Sorry to bother you with all these questions but I just want to make sure I'm not being scammed. I've had one game of BA so far and planning on having another soon. The player I met said that artillery units, mortars and launchers always uses indirect fire. As in always hits on 6+, then 5+ if they're standing still and etc. etc. Is this so? I can't find anything about this in the rules? Is this a normal house rule?
Logan Rodriguez
Do you think it would be possible to run a large /hwg/ map campaign?
1 user as game master and two teams, probably WW2 since that has the most players. Rules and scale agnostic, people play games locally and report back the results to the GM who updates the public /hwg/ map, tracks troop movements etc. Sort of like those Risk threads, but with the battles played out on the tabletop
Any way to make something like that viable?
Robert Johnson
It works exactly like that, check the Indirect rule under weapon special rules. Mortars can fire only indirect, artillery can fire directly if they have LoS, if they only have a spotter that sees the target, then it's indirect.
Page 53 in the hardback rules.
Justin Sullivan
>It works exactly like that, check the Indirect rule under weapon special rules. Mortars can fire only indirect, artillery can fire directly if they have LoS, if they only have a spotter that sees the target, then it's indirect. You're a peach. Thanks
Justin Howard
No probs, glad I could help. Did you enjoy the game?
Jonathan Lewis
I'm not a BA player, nor do I have any real familiarity with the system. Do all goes wind up looking like extremely close range moshpits like that one did?
Anthony Robinson
>Do you think it would be possible to run a large /hwg/ map campaign?
no
We are too far separated to be meaningful, you would at best I think end up with 2 groups of 2 or 3 players uploading results.
Liam Ortiz
Don't forget that they can Zero in if the target isn't moving.
Bentley Perez
It depends on the map of course. They were doing some kind of city fight in narvik so obviously they had to get close.
Brody Foster
>perfectly adequate werfer Sounds like you got a good deal
Caleb Stewart
Yes, I did. The game is great and I look forward to playing and painting more.
Lincoln Scott
I'd like to think this was possible. If we just get a hex and counters map, a role call of nations and a promise not to cheat this would be totally viable.
Christian Mitchell
Why not run games on Roll20 or Vassal, provided you could find the necessary stuff?
Jeremiah Hill
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Carson Brooks
Part of me wants to seek out Rhodesian soldier minis, but the other part of me is afraid of triggering libtards.
Parker Howard
Eureka miniatures has everything.
>triggering libtards.
You have to be lucky to find people knowing about Rhodesia at all these days.
Isaiah Perez
>but the other part of me is afraid of triggering libtards Huh? Admittedly my knowledge in the Rhodesian bush wars is limited to Warren Zevon and olive shorts, but haven't heard much about it outside of /hwg/ anyway, especially not from any left-leaning folks.
Nicholas Gray
This honestly.
I have to admit, i learned about Rhodesia and the Bush War on /k/. During my time in School and University (in Germany) nobody ever mentioned it at all. I never read anything about Rhodesia outside of Imageboards or when i searched for stuff by myself.
Mason Ross
Rhodesia is Zimbabwe now, which should fill in the puzzle enough for ya.
Jose Jackson
Eureka do 28mm. Theres also 20mm available and 15mm from other companies. I'd have to look up the names but I know they exist.
Angel Smith
S and S does generic dudes armed with FN-FALs, AKs and so on and so forth with headgear of your choice.
Ryan Wright
Yes, but the knowledge is limited to some people with interest in military, history, africa or a combination of these things.
Average people will just stop listening at >Its a country in Africa
Literally nobody cares.
Sebastian Sanders
It's Under Fire Minis that do the 20mm stuff.
Owen Perry
I guess they do too, so that makes it two. Possibly some of the Elhiem ranges could serve there too.
Jayden Rogers
Right, but it's not the normies one ultimately has to worry about in this case; it's a historical gaming community filled with the kind of people who *do* know enough about that to raise stinks.
Lucas Hall
Who cares what they think about it to be honest. You paint and push around miniature men on a board pretending to be a general. Would it change anything if you called it Bodesian Rush Wars?
Christian Hill
Why would they?
Its history and its a tabletop wargame. I really don't see why anyone could complain.
I mean, people are fielding SS units in FoW or BA in clubs/stores right next to children playing yugioh and these games aren't causing trouble either.
Yes i know, there are occasional discussions about nazis/ww2 in wargames.. at least here in germany
Blake Reed
>Huh?
Rhodesia declared independence specifically so they could keep a white minority in control of the majority black population of the country. Some bleeding hearts who don't understand how much of a bloodthirsty asshole Robert Mugabe was and still is tend to tar Rhodesia with the same brush that apartheid-era South Africa gets.
Jack Parker
So literally all chronically butthurt left-wingers?
Michael Jones
That was more of a "when did liberals start to give a shit about Africa?" kind of "huh?".
Thomas Rivera
Yeah that happens every once in a great while here too. Some people just trigger easily.
Sebastian Howard
>grandfather considered a job offer to take the family to Rhodesia right before the unrest started >mum could have grown up using guns to shoot blacks
Chilling.
Jeremiah Roberts
My Great Unlce served in the Rhodesian Army pre and post UDI after completing his tours with the British in Malaya. He then moved to South Africa and worked for Escom.
When I was over there when I was little visiting I met verterans of the Border War and they made my Tea in their helmets.
(I was about 8 at this time and it was the coolest shit).
Aiden Young
operator as fuck
Parker Rivera
Neat! But where do most Rhodesians live today?
Sebastian Diaz
South Africa, Australia, America, Britain etc
Anglo countries.
John Lewis
For me it's limited to my uncle's stories about paratrooping into the bush as a medic.
Haven't been out there since my nan died. The rest of the family lives in SA/Australia/America etc.
Ryder King
My paternal grandma moved out to Rhodesia but my dad stayed because he didn't want to leave my mum (this was when they were dating).
She definitely moved back at some point but I'm not sure if it was pre- or post-bushwar.
