So, I've been tweaking an 1850 Black Crusade list for semi-competitive play, and have something like this. C&C?
==Black Crusade Detachment== =Chaos Warband= Note: Everything in this detachment has Veterans of the Long War for free (thanks to detachment bonuses), and Obsec (thanks to formation bonuses). Chaos Lord w/ Mark of Nurgle, Bike, Power Axe, Sigil of Corruption - 140 [Warlord] Chaos Sorcerer w/ Bike, Force Staff, ML 2, Spell Familiar - 120 5 Marines. Champion has Combimelta, 1 Marine has a Meltagun/BP/CCW, rest have BP/CCW - 97 -Rhino w/ Dozer Blade - 40 5 Marines. Champion has Combimelta, 1 Marine has a Meltagun/BP/CCW, rest have BP/CCW - 97 -Rhino w/ Dozer Blade - 40 5 Marines. Champion has Combimelta, 1 Marine has a Meltagun/BP/CCW, rest have BP/CCW - 97 -Rhino w/ Dozer Blade - 40 5 Marines. Champion has Combimelta, 1 Marine has a Meltagun/BP/CCW, rest have BP/CCW - 97 -Rhino w/ Dozer Blade - 40 5 Chosen, 2 Plasma Guns - 120 -Rhino w/ Dozer Blade - 40 5 Havocs, 2 Plasmaguns - 105 -Rhino w/ Dozer Blade - 40 3 Bikers w/ 2 Bike-mounted Meltaguns - 90 3 Bikers w/ 2 Bike-mounted Meltaguns - 90 5 Havocs, 4 Autocannons - 115 5 Havocs, 4 Autocannons - 115 =Spawn Auxiliary= 2 Spawn w/ Mark of Nurgle: 72 points 2 Spawn w/ Mark of Nurgle: 72 points ==Allied Daemon Detachment== =HQ= Masque - 75 =Troops= 12 Pink Horrors - 108
Total Points: 1850
The Lord joins one unit of you-know-whats, and the Sorcerer joins the other unit of those that must not be named.
Horrors roll on Malefic. Sorcerer usually goes for Telepathy, but may do the AOD-copypaste powers on occasion.
One option I've contemplated is swapping out the Biker Meltaguns for Flamers, using the points to give my Lord and Sorcerer Gifts of Mutation, since they'd get the free second roll due to Favored Scions. On one hand, you can't have too many meltaguns. On the other hand, I like the option for 5e-style tactics of Tank Shocking units into flamerbait formation.
Ian Gray
Does anyone have that rather lewd transcript of stupid, sexy Bel'akor and the source it came from? I've been searching all damned day and need it for reasons.
Luke Jenkins
>Tau are a shooting army >BS3
Thomas Rogers
>markerlights
Parker Carter
>5 havocs >2 plasma guns For what purpose?
Levi Flores
I'm pretty sperg-ish when it comes to army design and I like taking units Double-Or-Nothing. (So I have the option to split the army into two "cohorts" if need be). So they're the "Double" to the 5 Chosen w/ 2 Plasma guns. Their purpose is "mid-range" plinking/an exclusion zone for enemy Deep Strikers.
Brandon Sullivan
>MC and tank units of 3 get +1 BS >Optimized Stealth Cadre gets +1 BS basically all of the time >Drone-Net VX1-0 gets +1 BS, and can be all Markerlight Drones >and, of course, motherfucking Markerlights
I mean, I kinda like Tau, but don't be a retard. They're very good.
John Gonzalez
so I have Eldrad, 10 guardians, 5 wraithguard and a wraithknight.