Please keep all orc related conversations to the orc general thread. This includes half-orc and orc-like races such as Uruk-Hai and others. Including all Orcish lore from properties as diverse as Warhammer, Warhhamer 40k and Warcraft.
By which I mean; Tolkien's orcs were the embodiment (among other things) of the dark side of modernity and industrialisation. They reflected his fears about war, fascism, communism, atheism, pollution, urbanisation and all that stuff which horrified 1930's Englishmen who dreamed of an idyllic rural past.
Is it sufficient to just drop the 'noble savage' bullshit and give them mass-produced equipment, gunpowder and so on? Or do they need to be updated to reflect 21st century anxieties about progress and technology?
Jace Richardson
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David Phillips
Apparently this picture here is an edited of a human barbarian chick.
Don't care. Badass.
Nathan Morgan
I feel that there's no way to do this that won't come across as really, really racist.
Aiden Rodriguez
And didn't he himself regret how he made them into an "evil race"?
Jordan Wilson
Yeah.
"All members of race X are Alignment Y" is a terrible, terrible idea.
Fuck you Goblin Slayer for not even trying
Jaxson Murphy
Modernize it by making orcs a faceless hivemind. Or make them timeless with symbolism about timeless human evils.
Christian Murphy
Do what TES did and make them Jews
John Rodriguez
>people actually play as disgusting pig monsters Last time I checked Orcs are in the Monster Manual, not the Player Handbook
Julian Reyes
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Logan White
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Robert Smith
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Eli Robinson
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Camden Nguyen
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Noah Richardson
>"All members of race X are Alignment Y" is a terrible, terrible idea.
No it's not.
Blake Butler
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Evan Turner
But it is.
Luis Rogers
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Lincoln Sanders
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Ryan Morris
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Chase Ward
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Joseph Cruz
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Josiah Roberts
But it isn't
Parker Torres
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Wyatt Cox
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Kayden Torres
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Elijah Moore
I love this lady's art and her orcs in particular.
Isaac Bell
Yes, it is. If elves can be of any alignment, there is no logical reason why orcs can't be as well.
Camden Perez
That's not what the user said at all.
Christopher Edwards
"Splint" and Rukhash are responsible for my she-orc fetish.
Levi Ross
Half-Orcs best waifu prove me wrong Veeky Forums
Ayden Wright
What makes Orcs unique? Is it their physical attributes, their culture, or something else entirely? What element separates them from the other races?
Kayden Ramirez
Depends on setting
Connor Smith
yeah, depends on the setting if you want to talk about specific orcish traits/societies/origins.
if you want to talk about their role in fantasy generally, most orcs fill the role of bestial humanoid. they're abnormally strong and abnormally ugly. they're kind of the anti-elf: destructive, disrespectful, crude, uncivilized. sometimes they're green, sometimes they're grey/black, sometimes they look like giant pigmen. fantasy orcs serve the purpose of being the foil for the more civilized races. more commonly their negative attributes highlight the positive ones of other races, but plenty of writers aren't afraid to give orcs positive traits to contrast against other races' negative ones.
Aaron Martinez
Then why have a general for them in the first place?
Jose Carter
Why not?
John Nguyen
because they're a distinct race common among different works of fiction?
because it's better than endless TRUCK DRIVER QUEST XXXIV threads?
Dylan Garcia
why in the fuck are quests not on their containment board
Lincoln Barnes
Well, if there's really nothing that makes Orcs unique from other races, then there really isn't anything to discuss, is there? All this effectively is is a character art thread disguised as a General. But if there's no unifying trait, then it really isn't a distinct race, is it? It's just a group of races with the same name. >because it's better than endless TRUCK DRIVER QUEST XXXIV threads? You got that right.
William Turner
Larger than humans, green/gray skin, and tusk-like teeth, mostly.
If your OC fantasy setting has a meaty angry warrior race, but they're covered in fur, nobody will call them orc-ripoffs. If that same setting has big green tusked dudes who are smarter than humans, live in roped-together boat colomies, and cast magic through interpretive dance, people will still call them "weird orcs".
Blake Gray
>Well, if there's really nothing that makes Orcs unique from other races
There is.
It depends on the setting.
Lincoln Hernandez
Why do they need their own general, then? Just make a new character art thread, ask for orcs, and call it a day.
Jack Nelson
So, shouldn't you discuss orcs in 40K general, or Warcraft General, or Warhammer Fantasy General? If orcs have no unique characteristics without a setting, then why discuss them without specifying a setting?
Matthew Rivera
Are you asking these questions in the Elf General Thread too?
Brayden Watson
There's an Elf General now? Crap. Better head over there.
Austin Rogers
What if they want to talk about all the orcs/orks and don't care about the non-orc stuff?
Hudson Miller
Then post a reply in the setting thread talking about orcs.
Cameron Carter
Ooooor
They can talk about orc stuff
with other people who like orcs
Jonathan Sullivan
He fucking did it
Jayden King
They've started enforcing the division now.
Carson Bennett
I am an user of my word. BUT WHAT IS THERE TO TALK ABOUT?
Nicholas Watson
He missed the dwarf general tho.
Ryan Perez
>BUT WHAT IS THERE TO TALK ABOUT?
lurk moar
Brody Torres
Ah, shit. My work is never done, it seems.
Daniel Gray
Amazing
Brandon Smith
Shit. I'll get /dgt/ next time, it seems. Don't get me wrong, I like me a good half-orc waifu, I just dislike unnecessary generals.
Gruumsh is an evil god who made orcs in his image to do his evil work. The elf gods who made elves let them have free will because that's what goodies do.
That's the usual D&D explanation.
Xavier Rogers
> OI GITZ HOW DA YA USE DIS ZOGGIN INTERWARP?
Josiah Hill
LotR orcs a best.
And, as much as I like Tolkien's original descriptions, I think the Peter Jackson movies, excluding the Hobbit, knocked it out of the park with their designs.
Post LotR style orcs.
Ryder Turner
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Carson Jenkins
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Jaxon Clark
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Julian Sullivan
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Henry Wood
Industrialistic orcs are best orcs
Dominic Allen
I want those orcs in my setting
Ian Rivera
Which?
Joshua Scott
But my orcs ARE covered in hair!
Carter Hernandez
The boat orcs
Landon Anderson
Any pictures of towns, or tribes, or camps, or anything like that?
Aaron Carter
Speaking of industrial orcs does anyone have that picture from Kingdom under fire with the Orcs in the firing line?
Kayden Williams
man I love bizarre fringe theories like this.
Nicholas Powell
They're a goldmine for ideas. Especially if you're going for something a little more off the beaten path, setting wise.