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For anybody just tuning in, Finally finished my Fantasy Bug CYOA.
Fixed a bunch of spelling and grammar errors.
Gotta ask, what do you guys think of this one compared to the Underwater fantasy one? The other one sort of had a specific narrative, but this one is much more open ended as to allow for more freedom, and I definitely focused on companions more this time around.
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Universal war user here. I'm going to drop version 1.1 in a bit, not many changes just I'm trying to refine it.
Is there anything anyone wants in a future update? New companions? Quest?
Not my cup of tea but I appreciate the work you put in to it.
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This bug cyoa is alot better, the companions are definitely more flushed out.
I want to see more exploration quests. Also, more Gun Witch stuff. Quests, Companion, items, whatever.
A fancy hat.
The water one felt more complete than this one but thats probably due to the open ended nature of the bug one. But still, they both feel like you accomplished what you set out to do with them, Both were well made. If I were to ask you to add anything I'd say concrete rewards for Quests,
Quick overview of what the magic system can do would be nice. What would learning magic from Magus Alder allow us to do, for example?
with this one, does major entanglements continue after the durance?
i would like some clarity on THE OLD LAW a lot of thing use it and the only thing you tell us about it is that it say the demilurges should rule.
the army of darkness leader fighting the elves the elves has male pronouns in the opening paragraph of the quest and females in the rest of there mentions.
i find the female companions a bit bland, they are most humans and elves, with the exemption of 2 demons and a 1 dragon, where males have fungal horrors, plant people, and beast people.
i know some people where asking for more tarot gifts.
Also if i get 1 of the same items from complains/patrons can i sell back the spare or do i have to find a use for it (you give out magus gems like candy), can the lover sprite take drawbacks, and what does the dark one even want me to do
>i would like some clarity on THE OLD LAW a lot of thing use it and the only thing you tell us about it is that it say the demilurges should rule.
Ill try.
>the army of darkness leader fighting the elves the elves has male pronouns in the opening paragraph of the quest and females in the rest of there mentions.
My mistake, all the quest are still in the alpha phase.
>i find the female companions a bit bland, they are most humans and elves, with the exemption of 2 demons and a 1 dragon, where males have fungal horrors, plant people, and beast people.
I searched really, really hard for female monster art and couldnt find any. Sorry but if you have nice monster art to add I would happily include more female monster companions.
Also the fungus and plant guys dont really have a gender, I just used he for ease.
>Also if i get 1 of the same items from complains/patrons can i sell back the spare or do i have to find a use for it
You can sell it back.
> can the lover sprite take drawbacks,
No.
>what does the dark one even want me to do
Varies but his goal isnt clear. He will ask different things of you depending on where you are. Hes manipulating you, mostly.
The ability to use Miracle to bless/sanctify people and places; more discussion about what some of the "more important" beings are like, like how some demons and angels behave in terms of biolog, culture etc. Also "druidess" is odd. Druid is already gender neutral. Also maybe some minor spelling/grammar mistakes that I might get around to collecting into a pastebin?
Just speaking generally because you are not even close to the only person that does it: There's never a time where pluralization with " 's " is appropriate grammatically. The " 's " is used to denote possession of something.
>couldnt find any
judging buy the rest of the art you use your looking for some kind of sudo-painted art-style pictures over the more common anime weeaboo stuff, just thought i would ask before i go looking
>I searched really, really hard for female monster
At least for Xuite, it's really hard to call that plant-humanoid "male." The same for a few other companions. If you find a picture of an androgynous figure or one that isn't obviously male, there's no reason why you can't just add a "she" or even an "it." It's the exact same thing you've been doing when you labeled others with "he."
Take pic related; there are arguments for all three groups. There's no reason, either, that this being couldn't reproduce asexually or even not at all thus leaving it with no concept of sex or gender for itself.
I like it! It's very unique. I like it better than the undersea one.
Rusyldril Sunsyliln
>Crawling
>Webs
>Fangs
>Stealth x2
>Ranged Combat x2
>Melee Combat
>Blocking
>Spider Sense
>Incense Lantern
>Irikav
>Durantius
>Xervia
>Niocra
Team of talented fighty spiders
>Vizera
Wasp Princess could be useful.
>Experiments
Join them.
>Visitors
See what they want and try to help them out in exchange for magical help with experiments.
>Tiny Giant
Take her prisoner and use her for experiments.
>Spider Queen
Join her and help spiders take over with help of fairy magic and human-spider hybrids.
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I guess I should post my water fantasy for people to compare
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Duplicate replies..?
Best not to post too many pictures in case we hit the image limit and drown out the actual CYOAs.
>more discussion about what some of the "more important" beings are like, like how some demons and angels behave in terms of biolog, culture etc.
What do you mean by this example? What would you like to see talked about?
Just keep it semi realistic looking. No anime or cartoony looking art. Thats what I look for.
Xuite is genderless.
I dont have much androgynous art really, just for plants and other obviously inhuman things like Dragons (which are genderless) and Angels (whice are genderless).
I have two female demons. I thought you might want something more exotic?
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I haven't looked at it closely because I'm still working on my Universal War character. It's less immediately attractive because it seems alien. I don't want to make myself too inhuman, and I'm not attracted to bug waifus.
>Xuite is genderless.
Right but you still called him male, which was my point. You could just as easily take more extreme portaits and choose to gender the beings portrayed therein as female. If you're worried about people freaking out just don't forget: you don't need to fall back on, "the girl one has boobs" like you can see in some fantasy/sci-fi artwork. A female in most cases, is just the name for the gender that carries the child to term. A female godzilla, could just as easily be godzilla without tits as godzilla with breasts.
>What do you mean by this example? What would you like to see talked about?
For example: why are they called "Demons." Why do they need to be banished to another dimension? What do they typically look like? Do they have planets or do they typically tag along with other forces? Are they often enslaved or do they do the enslaving? Etc.
I'd appreciate if some of the clarifications you've made in thread could be added to the document (no, I don't know which ones).
The only place where'd I'd say "more stuff" would be nice is quests. Everywhere else, there's lots of stuff.
To address your first point, I dont mean to be rude by I honestly just dont care. People give things a gender all the time, like calling ships "she". Its just the way I write and I just dont want to keep calling them "it". Sounds impersonal.
>For example: why are they called "Demons." Why do they need to be banished to another dimension? What do they typically look like? Do they have planets or do they typically tag along with other forces? Are they often enslaved or do they do the enslaving? Etc.
Would you like me to answer those questions now? I could add a lore index but I honestly would feel like im smelling my own farts if I did.
I still want Bruce Lee as a companion.
More ship options. You could make it a section of its own.
Particularly I am looking for a small ship with lots of stealth, exploration and electronic warfare mechanisms able to crew a few elites.
>>Would you like me to answer those questions now? I could add a lore index but I honestly would feel like im smelling my own farts if I did.
You could drop a quick summary but regardless, I'd be interested in reading whatever else you have written .
Also the Heavy class of starships:
Does it allow for: 50, 00 passengers; 500,0 passengers; 5000 passengers or 50, 000 passengers?
>>My mistake, all the quest are still in the alpha phase.
You should probably keep the guy as male. It's an interesting twist imo. Usually it's the hero marrying the evil conquering warlord (female), but there's no reason why you can't still marry the same warlord (female) if it was instead a warlord (male). You could be Guts if he'd just decided to bang Griffith.
Naw, it'd be better all around if the player just decided their gender. You like chicks? Morthis is female. You like dicks? Morthis is a dude, That way, no one can bitch.
Speaking of gender, how about some gender specific perks or perk effects for the player to choose?
>You could drop a quick summary but regardless, I'd be interested in reading whatever else you have written .
I will, and thank you. Im pretty glad most people seem to like my CYOA. I do try to make it nice.
>For example: why are they called "Demons." Why do they need to be banished to another dimension?
This is just laziness on my part but all "Demons" are actually "Devils". They are the same thing, though people usually refer to weaker Devils as Demons.
Devils come from Void Space, the place where Devils go when they are "killed". Both Angels and Devils cant die, instead their souls are banished to their home realm to regenerate and one day return to the multiverse. Angels suffer a death of body while Devils suffer a death of personality.
Im keeping things short, ill explain if in another post if you want to know more.
>What do they typically look like?
Devils typically come in colors. Like Red Devils, Blue Devils, Black Devils, etc.
The most powerful types are colorless Devils. They dont have a uniform look, but typically Red Devils look like the goat/bull demons and colorless Devils look like insects.
> Do they have planets or do they typically tag along with other forces?
Depends on the group of Devils in question. It varies but most creatures in Universal War are not evil like comic book villians, even Devils have a reason for the evil deeds they commit.
>they often enslaved or do they do the enslaving? Etc.
Devils use powerful magics and typically dont need slaves.
Crafty mages, witches, and other powerful beings will bind a Devil for a powerful servant. Binding Devils (knowing their true name) is dangerous but usually worth it.
>Also the Heavy class of starships:
Typo, its 50,000 but im adding a new Troop Transport starship in the newt update.
Male or female Lord of Darkness? Maybe we should a vote. I can swap it to male if no one has any objections.
That sounds interesting. Like what user?
>Maybe we should a vote
Heres my opinion
My vote is also
Why are you so obsessed with that ship?
I REALLY fucking hate those. They don't make sense 90% of the time and men almost always get the perks that I don't like.
Alright, ill just omit the gender.
I like this better. It feels less railroad-y.
Not in the sense of men get something and women get something else, but in the sense that gender has an effect, some samples below.
Several possibilities, probably involving some kind of drawback. Like a lust variant of the beauty perk that only attracts males or females (or a twisted one for gays and lesbians) being repulsive to the others. Maybe the lovers gift could be made more efficient but only if companions are restricted to a certain gender. Maybe some patron that favors some gender over another (lots of possibilities). A drawback where some gender would be hostile or at least not friendly. And so on.
>semi realistic looking
holy shit artstation, can you use good damn tags, no wonder nobody cant find shit
>Why are you so obsessed with that ship?
It's the first time I've ever (me, personally--not just itt) said, "You could be Guts if he'd just decided to bang Griffith," or any variant thereof.
neith's description says "can die unless phylactery is destroyed."
Francis complains about "clofmores" and "clorfmores."
well, there's a region that hates men for a quest.
I'd fuck it
Currently working on the Super CYOA, but I am taking suggestions for Hell Invasion.
Next version will have more of everything. I would like suggestions for:
>1 more Origin
>More powers for current Origins
>Power suggestions for a Lucky origin
>New weapon ideas (1 confirmed weapon is a Rocket Propelled Chainsaw)
>Companion Ideas
The next version will be released after the Super CYOA, and I'll also heavily alter the companions list, try to make them a bit more distinct.
Also if it wasn't clear before, I'll add in that it's supposed to be a multiplayer CYOA.
Oh right also suggestions for any of the other stuff is welcome, quests and armours I believe.
This region could be made to hate one not specifically and you could let the player choosing to side with them or antagonize them.
>Also if it wasn't clear before, I'll add in that it's supposed to be a multiplayer CYOA.
Great CYOA tarnished by inevitable rapists and such.
For a new origin:
>Rogue demon/demon enhanced
>Badass secret operative type, ala Solid Snake
>Empowered by the Earth AKA elements, nature, animal control, etc.
>Alien enhanced stuff. Maybe something like Samus?
Speaking of, Samus like armour would be cool. As for quests? I'd say something like working with Angels for something, like a relief mission or something. Maybe something involving a demonic plague/bio weapon?
>Great CYOA tarnished by inevitable rapists and such.
The greatest problem that any playerbase must tackle is that it's made up of people.
Multiplayer games are almost always shit unless you know the people or there are very strong limits on someone's actions - limits like in a video game. Multiplayer shouldn't be the default of any CYOA and should always be optional.
So is Soylent Green
multiplayer kills cyoas
Only if you take Eliminated Servitude.
I thought people liked multiplayer CYOAs?
Titanlands and Fantasy Adventure Raloded were really popular.
Or Garda-Union Outlook and then you get to choose what sticks.
>titanlands
We stopped discussing that cyoa after we put together the most optimized min/max'd build and Lurl hasn't fixed all the imbalanced aspects yet.
>Fantasy Adventure Reloaded
If I guess that cyoa correctly, its the one with the broken equipment system and every time the author updated it, the equipment system got way more imbalanced and not only that but he decided to nerf everything by giving us less points and restricting the number of drawbacks we could take even more killing all discussion.
Trying to make a CYOA about knight orders, anyone know a decent generator I could use for their coats of arms?
Nope, but I just wanted to wish you the best because I fuckin love me some knights. If a knight build is even sorta possible in a CYOA I make one. So, good luck user.
>Rogue demon/demon enhanced
The only good demons are the succubi or incubi.
However the demon enhanced is kind of already for the Murderous.
>Badass secret operative, ala Solid Snake
Don't know much about him, but a stealthy origin would be pretty cool.
>Empowered by the earth
See I primarily want these abilities to supplement the guns and melee, and I don't think that's going to work out too much.
>Alien Enhanced Stuff.
Might be treading on the Injected's territory.
I might just make a psionic/biotic option.
Also is adding some Warhammer 40k stuff considered good, or is it already too much? I feel like I'm going to be mixing a lot of pretty different stuff together to make this.
Are you taking weapon ideas for specific Origins? Cause I got a few.
Melee:
Blessed: Spear, possible JEBUS connotations. Or it could just be a vaguely holy spear.
Augmented: Katana, like a vibroblade or something.
Injected: Axe, bites fuckers on contact
Murderous: Club, for raw smashing power and extra demon gore.
Ranged:
Blessed: Thurible, those things that Catholic churches and such hold incense in. Maybe it releases an incense that's poisonous to demons or something.
Augmented: Laser or lightning gun.
Injected: Acid/parasite belcher, throws acid and/or parasites that eat away at demon flesh. If it's both, maybe the parasites poop more acid and lay quick-hatching eggs. Maybe too OP, I dunno.
Murderous: Demonic grenade, teleports back to your hand (or on your person) whole a few seconds after being used (like 5 or 10).
Non specific weapons:
Pissed off little monster or robot, you can throw at a demon's face to distract them.
Shield that can be used like deployable cover. Spike on the front, maybe.
Would anyone be nice enough to post Rapture Academy?
I need it. I really, really crave it.
How tall can Average height be?
What's the difference between Large and Grand penis?
What's the difference between Bubble and Badonk ass?
Thanks, user!
Not gonna lie, user, that's pretty hot. Knowing someone gets off to my misery is great. It really fuels the self hatred. Makes me feel validated and loved.
Ya, I didn't include any real rewards because there's way more than there was for the underwater one. I suppose I could reward more specifics things like "Colossus' treasure lets you choose any companion with stealth" or even individual skills.
>I'm not attracted to bug waifus
Your loss
I don't know about the dicks, but here's an ass chart.
Amew is the one true waifu, who won't ruin your laifu.
What kind of booty would you prefer on a trap?
>spoiler
Humor me user. I've hit a block with this CYOA so I'm putting my mind elsewhere.
The gutter isn't a healthy place for a mind.
That said, Veeky Forums ass is always best ass.
Bubble or donk.
>Amew pleases groups of men for free.
>Gets pregnant.
>Claims its rape.
>If it was rape she didn't tell her big brother when he saw her during his visits. He's like the 3rd strongest mother fucker too.
>Genocide happens.
>One true waifu.
Top slut gives top laughs.
>Tainted goods
She's pure of heart and soul though.
Doesn't matter. If one is tainted it's all bad. You're that guy that still eats bread even after he's found a moldy piece in the bag.
Name one girl in the cyoa who isn't tainted goods. Excluding the children.
Nice 7's
Best girl Ciel.
>Implying she doesn't take the dick of the people from the Dragon's Valley.
>Implying the previous Hero didn't tap that ass, and is the one who made her tsundere.
user you delusional .
posting a couple CYOA's I have lying around, starting with the classic Amphipod Arena(all the blank space is cause it was still being worked on last time we had a thread for it, still taking ideas for it)
Ciel is too pure to even understand that her outfit is revealing, and she doesn't like the Dragon's Valley people.
And her profile is very clear that she didn't like him and they never got along, so no.
Could always include a mantis shrimp
the ever popular "Kniggas" concept
a more serious Knights concept courtesy of Shwig(think he might have come up with an extra one or two on his Tumblr, am going to have to double check)
>Body
Wings
Stinger
Pincers
(Chrysalis) Fangs
Sweet Jesus what horrible abomination am I?
>Skills
Melee Combat Mastery
Shielding Mastery
Growth Magic Mastery
I am the angriest bug. It's me.
>Items
Chrysalis
Free Drinks
>Comrades
Fildenex
Firanar
Arjax
Vizera
Jaecep
>QUEST
Moth Ball:
Because you need at least one social quest.
The Necromancer:
Classic
Killer Plants:
Obviously what we need is to awaken the great locust swarm. eat THEM before they can eat US
Dragon's Horde:
>Convince him to spread the wealth
Yeah nah, call me Lancelot, I want that treasure.
and lastly a bundle of Fantasy Armies that Shwig came up with(he's still fiddling with this concept, saw him revising one of the armies on his Tumblr a couple months ago)
That's a vinegaroon.
>Ciel is too pure to even understand that her outfit is revealing.
No where in profile does it mention she doesn't know her outfit is revealing. She dresses like a slut for the Dragon people.
>And her profile is very clear that she didn't like him.
Thats just a cover story she made up to hide the fact she took his dick. Also gotta remember she actually respects the previous hero as he saved her people when she couldn't.