Oppinions on this?

Just makes me think of Mack from Agents of Shield.

It's more of an axe that gives you one shot before you go Axing, think of it like a modern Assault Rifle with an underslug Grenade Laucher; it's not a grenade Launcher, but it launches grenades.

Or, if you speak 40k. It's an axe that lets you overwatch the first time some assaults you.

I meant practical, actually. I wish it were practical.

>duck gun
You're referring to punt guns?

Counter!

The fuck is that?

Choppy bayonets may not have stood the test of time like stabby bayonets have, but it's a cool concept, and not completely terrible

I think they're referring to a duck's foot pistol. They're... something.

Shield gun

Oh, THOSE!

I got to play with one of those in Iraq!

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But axes pull down shields.

That's like the one thing they've got over swords.

>and appears to be smooth bore, rendering it nearly worthless.

Firearms performed well enough in combat to become the by far most important military weapon long before rifling started seeing regular use outside of hunting weapons.

Barrel length seems unremarkable for a pistol.

As for damage to the gun part while using it as an axe, such would certainly be possible, but I'm far less certain that it'd be all that likely. The lock isn't placed in all that an exposed position, and there's a rather solid bit of of wood to take the impacts before the barrel's bothered. And let's not forget that muskets did see plentiful as improvised clubs.

Now the bayonet and long arm appears to have been the only truly successful firearm-melee combination weapon, but that doesn't necessarily mean the others are completely without virtue, even if a pistol and a separate axe may have been a bit better a choice in most cases.

Evolution!

True enough, I'm thinking in terms of modern weaponry.

As for muskets being used as clubs, weren't they usually swung by the barrel, so the stock would make impact? I can actually see this being more functional if he axe blade served as a stock, for that reason.

It looks fun, I'd allow it. Granted, it wouldn't do either function as well as just a gun or just an axe, but you wouldn't have to switch weapons.

>he axe blade served as a stock
I can think of at least one reason that's a bad idea.

Key guns. Wait. What?

It opens the door of death

With an axe blade by the muzzle, we don't need the extra weight of the stock to help crush the target.

Let's put a bunch of pistol barrels in the stock.

Muzzle discipline?

Less sophisticate...

Then there's those who are quite serious about getting their meals fresh.

Death hath a thousand doors to let out life.

It's a least several hundred times more practical than a key blade, so I'll let it pass.

Umbrella shotgun? Umbrella shotgun.

Repeating flintlock pistol

There were some rifle versions made too.

Vid related
youtube.com/watch?v=UyBPaXbp7Qg

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It's like the budget version of that one from Kingsmen. You can't see where you're shooting at all, but with enough buckshot you don't need to.

If you worry about not having both hands available to work the mechanism, you could always go with Collier's double action design instead.

youtube.com/watch?v=GxNcjRf0O0o

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I like it. Keeps the rain off you by holding the sky at gunpoint.

No, really.

First, we have a board for this stuff. Second, it'd be hard to aim it as a gun because balance.

Historically weapons like this existed and were used, and they were bad at both jobs. IIRC some were used by sailors back in the days were you would shoot your gun at the start of a battle, and then use it as a club for the rest because it takes to long to reload.

Guncanes are sexy

Oh hey! Which Cooper used that cane, I wonder?

Hey, Keyblades are entirely practical when it comes to their intended purpose.

firearms with melee weapons attached have been a thing for years. wheellocks designed to serve as clubs, the ax-gun there is a real reproduction of a weapon. One Idea is you swing and hit, setting off the gun. A shallow strike is made into a close range gunshot.
., . but that's a stupid theory.
It's more simple than that, black powder weapons take to long to load, at the range a pistol was effective it was faster to run over and just hit the guy instead of reload.

It's an understandable mixup, since the intended purpose of the punt gun was hunting duck by the flock for commercial purposes.

They were intended for use aboard ships as a mutiny deterrent, for if the captain's facing a mob of crewmen. A normal flintlock only lets you kill one man, so the mutiners are only leery of being the first guy to try something. A duck's foot lets you kill several at once, so now the mutiners don't want to stand near anybody who'd be the first to try something. Now the mob's broken up.

Designed to stop prisoners from jumping the warden while his hands are busy with keys, since just dropping them to grab your weapon is unacceptable.

Made so that if you were ever poisoned by a dinner guest, you'd have the opportunity to get revenge before dying.

I love the idea behind this.

>love muskets and other early firearms
>almost no RPGs that handle them well

Also apparently this is a 4-shot repeating flintlock musket.

Superimposed charges, make damn sure you grease and wad the balls properly.

>Oppinions on this?
As a firearm ? won't be accurate, even for a flintlock, and the grip/stock is way too horizontal/flat to feel comfortable.

As an axe ? probably too heavy and unbalanced for one hand, and too short for two hands.

But is it cool? That's the real question.

>make damn sure you grease and wad the balls properly.
I beg your pardon?

GURPS
The low tech book is essentially re-enactor gun porn

What we gotz 'Ere is a piece of Kwan-tum Wepponry, where da object in kwestion is both Shoota an' Choppa, yet neither at da same time. Da only way to determine whether it's actually a Choppa or a Shoota is ta give to the nearest boy an' see what 'E does Wi' it.

looks cool,
not very effective,
If I was a privateer and there was a boarding action' I'd load it with scatter shot and use it.

Storytime.

that's very clever, I take it the top handles caused the balls to drop

So want to see it more. Shooting shit and when I get tangled in melee, smack them with a poleaxe like gun

I've seen them done in a "balanced" way that's basically inaccurate at range, slow reload, ignore 5 points of armour. That's LotFP and meant to put them in a niche compared to bows and crossbows.

Exploding damage is something I've seen people do in the same system, but I'm not sold on it. A bullet can kill you in one shot if it gets you in the head, but so can an arrow or slingstone.

No one will suspect it isn't a real umbrella!

I wonder if you could make an umbrella out of Kevlar and use it as cover.

And there's a cock nearby as well. The anatomy gets a bit confusing when we get to percussion locks though.

No, all the balls and charges would already be lined up one after another in the barrel (remember Metal Storm?) You put the lock up by the first one, fire, then slide the lock back to the second, etc. The "levers" are covers for the touch holes, as one of the sparks flying about the lock as it fires could otherwise find a way in through a more rearward hole, with hilarious results for everyone standing sufficiently far away. This is also the reason for the comment about wadding and greasing the balls properly, so that the fire of one charge going off can't find a way past the bullet behind to the next charge.

That's the blade of a Khopesh.

I want this

That and better smashing power; an axe-blow will split maille better than a sword-strike; though of course a sword's thrusting tip can be made to split maille links this is a more common feature on late medieval swords with a diamond cross-section than say, on Dark Ages sword with a more spatulate tip.

Short barrel that's canted oddly to the stock so it's inaccurate.
Axe blade being used will push back on barrel, possibly loosening it.
I have been seeing this image time and time again for longer than I have been at secondary school and university in my life.

I love Victorian pocket pistols.

Or because it was a cool thing to own. Tacticool has always been a thing.

Walking stick/cane guns used to be fairly common. Essentially just .410 bore shotguns with simple mechanisms. We had quite a few examples in the shop when I worked at a gun shop.

The Riddle of Steel and its successor, Song of Swords handle them pretty well.

If there's one weapon that is more fedora than a cane sword, it's a cane pistol sword

Is that a fucking real life Gunblade?

Where's the cannon? What the fuck do you shoot, the fork?

It's even red to prevent it and your suit to soak in blood!

Man, The Penguin has the brightest ideas!

Bloodborne/10, would hunt beasts with

I think those nubs on the ends of the handles are the muzzles.

Those are separate forks and knives, right?

Fires from the handle, you can see that from the orientation of the flintlock.

What if 'e do bo'?

That's not bad reasoning. Sure, a little worse than just ensuring there will be no mutiny, but still nice to have.

Then it's a Dhokker. Or a Chakka. One of those two.

It's real, in that it's a reproduction of a real weapon, but it's stupid as you say.

The thing people seem to miss is that when guns were relatively new as a good compact piece of technology people tried all kinds of crazy shit like this, olden day people were just as prone to mall ninja crap as we are these days and they loved novelty.

This and the gun-axe weren't made because it was some super effective design, they were made for people who wanted guns inside things and had more money than sense.

Grim Angus had that going on until his upgrade. Though Trolls in the Iron Kingdoms easily regen lost body parts and are very hard to kill, so it's not that big of a deal.

additionally, combining a gun and ax does somewhat cover the weaknesses of both. If someone threatens you with a gun back then, you knew they had one shot and if they fired they would be helpless. in this case they've still got an ax so you can't just rush them.

On the other hand, if someone just has an ax, you're not too worried unless you're within range, but the addition of a pistol means that you have to be worried about injury even when far away.

As a military weapon it's foolish at best, but for other situations it's not purely dumb novelty.

I think the main purpose of the gun-axe is that it fulfills a Plan C.

Plan A was shooting and killing your opponent.
Plan B was switching to a sword when that wasn't enough.
Plan C is realizing you don't have the time to draw your sword, the enemy is right in your face, but thankfully your gun is an axe. Who cares if you damage the gun mechanisms when using it as an axe, if it swings your life.

Er, saves your life, rather.

I approve.

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Fucking pistol pollaxe. Such want.

I'd imagine you'd be able to shoot someone through the keyhole it fits.

>Firearms performed well enough in combat to become the by far most important military weapon long before rifling started seeing regular use outside of hunting weapons.
Even in the age of rifling there were nations that still used smooth bore such as the French Empire under Napoleon.

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