/5eg/ - Fifth Edition General

>since I'm an unimaginative fuck
>puts more thought into spellcasting than 99% of players

Don't worry about cheesy.

Find something to burn that gives off very toxic smokes for scorching ray. Blow plumes of smoke at your enemies.

Google Pyroclastic Flow, scale it down to Fireball or a sort of wave/ray deal for Scorching Ray, and there you go.

Well, thanks for your kind words, I'll think about that.

Speaking of clerics, I have one that is themed around cold and winter, and has great fondness for white dragons. Which domain do you think he'd fit?

I never watch these, but I kind of want to. My players all seem really bored compared to the players I see in ads for these podcasts, and I want to learn from them. Which should I watch?

That's because your players aren't professional actors, haven't read the script and been told hold how to act and aren't being paid.

Critical Role is complete crap. I can NOT understand how people sit through four fucking hours of this tripe. First off, if you cannot find a D&D game of your own, it's because you deserve to be alone. This is the age of roll20, local game stores with community message boards, meetup.com, and literally DOZENS of other options. There is no excuse for not having a group.

So, anyone who is watching this actually prefers watching other people playing D&D over playing it themselves. Probably because they lack the creativity to even play a cookie-cutter fantasy character.

These shitheads are not funny. My (now-ex) friend forced me to sit through half an hour of these fucking morons. First off, I could barely make out what the fuck they were saying over the CONSTANT autistic laughter at every minor thing, like they have to laugh or it won't be funny. Then I realized nothing they were saying was funny or entertaining. It was just the same lame gay shit any game group could play. Fun to play in, barely fun to listen to. And the women are the absolute worse, they are literal whores who's only skill is mimicking orgasm noises for pain sounds in video games. How the fuck does that make them good roleplayers? They are fucking terrible at it, nothing about this show or story is compelling or interesting, and I stopped talking to my friend after he made me sit through just 1/8th of a Critical Role episode. I also stole 10 bucks off of his kitchen counter as I left out the door. Fuck him. He owes me that shit for wasting my time like that.

Can someone enlighten me as to why the fuck this show is allowed to exist, why people alike it, and why Mearls is now pandering to it (though the fact that he is a massive talentless shill might have something to do with that).

There is no cold domain, there is no ice domain. Even nature is all about plants and shit. You could ask DM to give you a light domain, but switch spells from fire to ice and from radiant to necrotic.

Nature/War Cleric. Too dumb for knowledge or trickery, no correlation to light life or tempest.

If you read the flavor for Fireball, it isn't even really an explosion, just a growing sphere of flame. I'd go with because pyroclastic flow is fucking cool shit.
Tempest has quite a few wintery cold spells, you could probably just roll with that.

there's a 3rd party cold domain in one of the Thule books

> Being this mad

yeah High Rollers is dece

...

So Nature, War or Tempest. I'll take a better look into those.

Sounds interesting. Which book is it? I assume it's in the mega.

So I´m going to join a new campaign set in "Ancient Egypt", we will start at level 1 escorting/travelling with a caravan.
I have rolled up a Barbarian that is a part of a tribe of primarily goat/sheep herders that raid caravans traveling between settlements as a way to make some extra gold, of course keeping away from the more powerful Caravans owned by Royals/Guilds/churches. (Don´t want a army stomping out bandits in the area)

Now the reason that my Barbarian have to joining the future party is that to be allowed to marry the girl of his dream´s he need to get rich and famous so that he proves hes worthy of her hand. The lady will be a daughter to a "crimelord/Robber Baron" that my characters tribe knows and have done business with before.

The question is if the one he need to impress is the father or the daugther.

Option 1: The father will be a greedy old fart and demands a handsome dowery for the hand of his daughter, in this scenario the daughter is a goal and not much of a character wich might be fine as I don´t really want to roll play any romance with her. (Brother Gm´ing)

Option 2: It is the Daughter that my character needs to impress and swoon, if so I'm probably going to make her a criminal running scam´s on people in the cities. (Thief+Charlatan)
As more of a character the party are more likely to run in to her contra dealing with the father.

Any thoughts or ideas?
Oh, and I need a good picture of a "Desert Barbarian"

Wait, they're scripted? What the hell?

All of them?

either the campaign setting or the player's guide
i remember some of their character options feeling a little overpowered though so obviously check with your GM before doing anything

>There is no cold domain, there is no ice domain.

Yeah because 5e was made by lazy-ass devs who didn't bother to create more than four domains. Instead of allowing you actual options, they chose four or five options for you, because playing a cleric of ice is badwrongfun, and you better homebrew it yourself instead of us creating official, well-balanced content in the book that you paid good money for.

Obviously not. is just being cynical.

How long does Curse of Strahd last? My group runs the prewritten adventures at least twice a week so wondering how long it'll take us.

Both of these are non-replies and do not count or mean anything. Try a real counterargument as to why Critical Role is anything but a heap of shit, and maybe I will listen to you.

No shit. They aren't quite scripted but they are pretty close. Most of the jokes are prewrttten.

Critical Role Isn't just scripted, practically all rolls are fudged and they unpersoned the character who revealed how fake the show is.

jesus christ, they are not scripted. only on 5eg have i seen autists feverishly claim that the show is scripted because anything remotely popular or successful is a threat to muh dnd

Hello, friend. Are you sad because nobody wants to play Pathfinder anymore, now that a superior system exists?

>5e
>Superior to Pathfinder.

I honestly can't tell if you're being sarcastic. Clerics have 7 different domains to pick from.

Same reason as any other dnd podcast exists, people want to see what playing D&D is like. The group of voice actors give illusion that they can sound half as good when they finally sit down and play.

I watched about 20 minutes of an episode and had to shut it off. I did not enjoy it. I would imagine that the same people who watch this are the ones that donate their paycheck to their favorite twitch grrrrrl gamers. I don't understand twitch, and I don't understand these podcasts. I barely understand how people can sit on YouTube all day. I can (and do) play d&d, I also can play video games. Why would I watch someone else do those things?

A pile of elephant shit is superior to Pathfinder.

Acquinsitions Inc actually spent thousands on new dice cameras because the rolls were suspicious as fuck and they needed to put the rumours to rest.

Now, now, Pathfinder has its good points.

It's not the mechanics, of course, but it does have its good points!

In all truth, I do like the setting and the adventure paths--more than I like the current ones (except for Princes of he Apocalypse) on offer from Wizards.

Do you anons have a main character you like to take through multiple adventures/campaigns? I'm really invested into my character even tho there is a bunch of ideas I have for when I have to roll new ones.

I feel the same way. Prefer all the lore and adventure paths of Pathfinder but hate the system's mechanics itself. 5e is perfect for me.

Haven't had that opportunity yet.
I did repurpose one of my old 5e characters to be a backup for ravenloft-turned-dimension-hopping campaign, since I hardly got to use him. Hoping for some downtime for my main character (recently the party acquired a mansion and are trying to set up armies and shit) so I can switch over.

What I have been able to do though is use characters from my other works in the campaign I run. That's fun because my group likes to read my stuff too and they liked seeing the character show up.

No, because I've only played with a single DM so far, whose every campaign is set in the same setting but many years apart. However, my characters are somewhat interconnected.
My first character was a cleric of an evil dragon god, who tried to make his master great again and return his religion to glory, but he failed so much that not only no one outside of a small circle knew that he's a follower of a dragon god, he actually became a saint of a religion he subtly fought against. Too subtly, perhaps. My second character was his distant descendant, while my third character comes from a small cult that he established - they actually survived through the ages and are still waiting for the second coming he promised.

If you really are willing to listen, my first argument is
>People have different tastes on what entertainment they enjoy

If you don't like it, that's fine. But the fact of the matter is that the folks on Critical Role managed to make D&D entertaining to watch, not just play. Usually watching a group playing is boring as fuck, but thousands of people tune in each week to watch their livestream, and even more watch the videos uploaded to youtube (about 200k views each). There is no denying that. It was what brought me and certainly many others to actually play the game.

>make a grappling character
>because there are no listed weights in the MM, DM bases monster weight on the Crocodile
>crocodiles are a medium creature and can weigh up to 1300 pounds
>lol no dragging for you Mr. 24 Strength Barbarian

This never happened, but it could.

And that is bullshit

Who has done more damage to the wider community, Mike Mearls or Matt Mercer

you know i began to write a reply, but when i actually read the drivel you had to say, i realised it was the lowest quality b8 i've seen in quite some time, so i guess well done

>Same reason as any other dnd podcast exists, people want to see what playing D&D is like.

'Cept you can do that with a 5 minute video, instead of multiple 4 hour podcasts of semi-famous hipsters making jokes and cultural references while sipping craft beer.

>It's not the mechanics, of course, but it does have its good points!

It uses the same d20 mechanic that 5e does, you fucking moron.

How do we make barbarians interesting?

well irony's a bitch

Abu contributor to dnd has done more to kill role-playing than a streamer

>craft beer
At least they aren't sipping matcha.

Both did nothing wrong. One helped make an edition viable for martials and the other made D&D cool

>. But the fact of the matter is that the folks on Critical Role managed to make D&D entertaining to watch, not just play.

Except, it's far more entertaining to actually fucking PLAY the game than watch even the most entertaining podcast. Unless you're a boring uncreative drone like most of Veeky Forums, and most 5e players in general, but even then. This is why I can't understand why my friend insisted on watching 2 hours a week of this stupid-ass podcast. But then again he also made me watch with him a Roostertooth video of them playing a game where they are a baby shitting on a street (no fucking joke that was the actual game) so I question his taste in anything at all.

And compared to critical role, I'd rather watch the baby shitting.

That's actually pretty dope.
The ravenloft thing sounds awesome. I'm really hoping mine survives CoS cause I've grown really attached to him and enjoy watching him grow the way he has.

lol

> It uses the same d20 mechanic that 5e does, you fucking moron.

When was the last time you tried to run a PF session? Methinks never.

>criticizing people for watching dnd rather than playing it.

surely you can't be that autistic right?! i mean not when you have the entire industry of sports journalism, twitch, youtube, letsplays, game tournaments, etc. If I need to spell it out for you any more then I might as well be talking to a wall.

Playing is always more entertaining but I'll put it on as background noise

Mercer made a bad homebrew and created a cancerous webshow that attracted hordes of hipsters to try out 5e.

Whereas ((((Mearls)))) (and don't get mad at me, that's how he spells his name on his Twitter) created a game with barely any character options, then created a false dichotomy between options and balance to justify his own laziness. All while creating a D&D edition that any fag in Veeky Forums's own Homebrew General thread, could have made without breaking a sweat.

I honestly can't decide which is worse but given that the whole mess of 4e and 5e wouldn't exist without (((Merals))), I'd have to go with him.

Sports journalism and export tournaments are a different level of (COMPETETIVE) play, literally anyone could play D&D to the "standards" of Critical Role

>it's far more entertaining to actually fucking PLAY the game than watch even the most entertaining podcast
I never disputed that, and I completely agree with it. But you don't get to decide how people waste their free time. On my end I would I'd play more if I could, but it's hard to find a good online game and even harder to find a real life one, since 5e hasn't even been translated to my language yet.

Isn't it amazing how people defend Mearl for the perceived saving of D&D? we conveniently ignore that under his watch the WotC D&D department fired all their writers, every product is now outsourced and there are less than 8 total employees left.

>Except, it's far more entertaining to actually fucking PLAY the game than watch even the most entertaining podcast.

It's also more entertaining to go to wizard school or sail the seven seas than read a book.

Clearly everyone in the world must be wrong and dumb because you see through the veil of bullshit,

>literally anyone could play D&D to the "standards" of Critical Role
HAH! That's a good joke. They're all professional actors and voice actors, what's more, they're all friends and familiar with one another. If there is one bad thing Critical Role did to D&D was give people the illusion that their home games will hold up to those standards.

Yeah the key difference is that those two things are impossible and playing RPGs is easy for any non-autist

Make them appreciably better than fighters at their flavored fighting styles

Same for Rangers

>I don't like it so it's bad.
Thousands of people watch it so they're obviously doing something right. Maybe it's the accessibility of the format, maybe it's the fact that Mercer manages to paint a pretty decent picture when telling the story (heavens know some of the DM's I've dealt with couldn't tell a story even if they had it written for them), maybe it's the fact that the people playing at least look like they're having a blast and people watch it for the same reasons they watch let's plays. For some people it may be all those things, for others it might be something else entirely. Also that "age of roll20" you were talking about? You can't deny that Critical Role is, at least in part, responsible for making DnD a bit less niche than it was in the past. It's been getting less niche for years now, but Critical Role did accelerate the process recently (though I wouldn't say "no excuse for not having a group" either. Plenty of people who live in small communities. Can't really have a group if there are only 1-2 people interested in your remote area.)
Side note. Where does Veeky Forums get their minis these days? They've been getting pretty expensive lately on all the traditional places you would look (i.e. e-bay) and I don't feel like spending a dollar a pop when couple years back they went for a third or sometimes a tenth of that.

Character voices is a gimmick and they're all playing cardboard cutout stereotypes so you can play to those standards by improving the other actual important aspects of the game

People watch people play D&D to listen to a story/entertaining characters. It is also more fun to play D&D than to watch it. However, these are two completely different things, and it's basically not worth arguing about.

Also, badwrongfun

If there's one thing about Critical Role that makes me okay with it existing is the fact that it demonstrates the fact that the players should care about and take seriously the setting.

In reality, it's really not that bad.

>popularity = quality
LEL
I guess they should cancel Critical Role and make it the Pewdiepie show then because he has more viewers :^)

Perkins makes a great old lady voice

I gave up on watching Critical Role when the meme bitch who plays the cleric took a shit in a bed after the bard did it. That's the most atrocious roleplaying I've ever seen and she gets fucking paid for it.

What is the best class, and why is it Fighter?

Can't prove you wrong. Chris always keeps me engaged while Mercer's shit is so generic and tropey. I get bored of that shit fast. Watching stuff like AI where you don't know what's going to happen is the best.

My college game society is starting a 5th edition game run with a semi experienced DM and a bunch of newbies, myself included.

How do I get people to like me?

>Thousands of people watch it so they're obviously doing something right.

Argumentum ad populentum. By that SAME LOGIC, Keeping up with the Kardashian, Harry Potter, the Hunger Games, and Lord of the Rings are good books / movies / shows (protip: they aren't).

This

No, people watch other people play D&D because they are lazy, passive fucks who do not have the creative energy to play the game themselves. These people produce nothing and ought to be purged from society.

I gave up when the Bard decided that rolling a 1 on any skill check means he let out a fart and all the players found this hilarious and laughed uproariously, continuing the joke for the rest of the session

aww look, he was able to strike down that strawman with such ease

welp, looks like his logic is just too good guys, time to pack it up and never watch crit role again

Don't be a dick, have fun, match the tone everyone else is going for
Worked for my uni group

Jesus fucking christ. That shit would get me kicked out of my game, straight up excommunicated

That's because (((Hasbro))) wants D&D to be a moneymaker instead of actually producing good content. So they just recycle old adventures and adapt them to 5e while pasting in art from old editions and working their artist sweatshop to the breaking point.

I have encouraged a lot of friends to not buy any 5e adventures by spreading a rumor that they use slave labor to bind the books. Liberal college town, rumor spreads fast, and most of them are too dumb to fact check. It's hurting the local FLGS but I don't really care. Sometimes you have to make sacrifices for the greater good.

Except they do. My games are far more entertaining and creative than any of the dumb cliche shit on Critical Role. Mercer's gunslinger homebrew is the biggest crock of shit I've seen outside of D&Dwiki's 3.5 prestige classes.

> people watch other people play D&D because they are lazy, passive fucks who do not have the creative energy to play the game themselves.
>ought to be purged from society.

>virt posting

>it's a "neckbeard spergs about a webshow he doesn't have to watch" episode

fucking reruns

Slow news day it seems.

>MY games are far more entertaining and creative than any of the dumb cliche shit on Critical Role

I'm sure.

Tell me about the times you refluffed a thing. When was it good? when was it bad?

This. This exact shit is what I hate about these fuckers. They are poisoning the community. The whole "LOL A NAT ONE YOU SHAT YOURSELF" crap, especially coming from a woman that's fucking disgusting, is complete shit. It is just more proof that the d20 mechanic is utter cancer, but that's a story for another time.

No, I don't have to watch it, but it is affecting our game's culture, and it is no different than CNN promoting infidelity as a glorious thing, or some other brainwashing bullshit. They are injecting this natural20-entitlement crap into our games and new players will enter with misconceptions about the system.

I honestly hope Mercer gets cancer at this point. Sure there'll be a wave of sympathy but the show will fall apart without him and then perhaps we can reverse this cancerous ideological tide that is destroying the roleplaying hobby.

>especially coming from a woman that's fucking disgusting
I agree. Why do we even let women play D&D in the first place?

Yours probably are, too. It's not a high bar to reach.

Nope. Nice strawman though.

> I can't counter this argument
> therefore I'll post a black and white fish image instead

So if I'm a first level bard, and I multi-class sorc at 2nd level, what happens exactly?

Do i get bonus skills or spells? the book isn't too clear on all that for me.

mostly just looking to get a little bit better ranged combat for my bard

Holy shit can we please get some fucking mods to get rid of this pol cancer

Just say fuck it and buy some minis. You can use silicone and resin to duplicate them. Paint the result and you got yourself an army. If you got any creative skills whatsoever make the new minis from wax and whitle them into a diferent class, silicone them and clone that.

Just skip to the part where you tell us we should play Dungeon World and we laugh at you for being the most ineffective shill ever conceived.