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Benjamin Robinson
26th October in military history:
1185 – The Uprising of Asen and Peter begins on the feast day of St. Demetrius of Thessaloniki. 1341 – The Byzantine civil war of 1341–47 formally begins with the proclamation of John VI Kantakouzenos as Emperor. 1597 – Imjin War: Admiral Yi Sun-sin routs the Japanese Navy of 300 ships with only 13 ships at the Battle of Myeongnyang. 1775 – King George III of Great Britain goes before Parliament to declare the American colonies in rebellion, and authorized a military response to quell the American Revolution. 1813 – War of 1812: A combined force of British regulars, Canadian militia, and Mohawks defeat the Americans in the Battle of the Chateauguay. 1881 – The Gunfight at the O.K. Corral takes place at Tombstone, Arizona. 1909 – Itō Hirobumi, four time Prime Minister of Japan and Resident-General of Korea, is assassinated by An Jung-geun at the Harbin train station. 1912 – First Balkan War: The Ottoman occupied city of Thessaloniki, is liberated and unified with Greece. 1917 – World War I: Battle of Caporetto; Italy suffers a catastrophic defeat to the forces of Austria-Hungary and Germany. The young unknown Oberleutnant Erwin Rommel captures Mount Matajur with only 100 Germans against a force of over 7000 Italians. 1917 – World War I: Brazil declares war on the Central Powers. 1918 – Erich Ludendorff, quartermaster-general of the Imperial German Army, is dismissed by Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany for refusing to cooperate in peace negotiations. 1940 – The P-51 Mustang makes its maiden flight. 1942 – World War II: In the Battle of the Santa Cruz Islands during the Guadalcanal Campaign, one U.S. aircraft carrier is sunk and another aircraft carrier is heavily damaged, while two Japanese carriers and one cruiser are heavily damaged. 1943 – World War II: First flight of the Dornier Do 335 "Pfeil". 1944 – World War II: The Battle of Leyte Gulf ends with an overwhelming American victory.
Ian Phillips
It is 99 years since the start of the Battle of Caporetto (also known as the Twelfth Battle of the Isonzo, the Battle of Kobarid or the Battle of Karfreit), fought near the town of Kobarid (now in north-western Slovenia, then part of the Austrian Littoral), on the Austro-Italian front of World War I. The battle was named after the Italian name of the town.
Austro-Hungarian forces, reinforced by German units, were able to break into the Italian front line and rout the Italian army, which had practically no mobile reserves. The battle was a demonstration of the effectiveness of the use of stormtroopers and the infiltration tactics. The use of poison gas by the Germans also played a key role in the collapse of the Italian Second Army
In August 1917 von Hindenburg decided that to keep the Austro-Hungarians in the war, the Germans had to help them defeat the Italian army. Ludendorff was opposed to this but was overruled. In September three experts from the Imperial General Staff, led by the chemist Otto Hahn, went to the Isonzo front to find a site suitable for a gas attack. They proposed attacking the quiet Caporetto sector, where a good road ran west through a mountain valley to the Venetian plain.
The Austro-Hungarian Army Group Boroević, commanded by Svetozar Boroević, was prepared for the offensive. In addition, a new 14th Army was formed with nine Austrian and six German divisions, commanded by the German Otto von Below. The Italians inadvertently helped by providing weather information over their radio.
Foul weather delayed the attack for two days but on 24 October there was no wind and the front was misted over. At 02:00, 894 metal tubes dug into a reverse slope similar to Livens projectors (Gaswurfminen), were triggered electrically to simultaneously fire canisters containing 600 ml (21 imp fl oz; 20 US fl oz) of chlorine-arsenic agent and diphosgene, smothering the Italian trenches in the valley in a dense cloud of poison gas.
Anthony Perez
Knowing that their gas masks could protect them only for two hours or less, the defenders fled for their lives, though 600 were still killed. Then the front was quiet until 06:00 when all the Italian wire and trenches to be attacked were bombarded by mortars.
At 06:41, 2,200 guns opened fire, many targeting the valley road along which reserves were advancing to plug the gap. At 08:00 two large mines were detonated under strong points on the heights bordering the valley and the infantry attacked. Soon they penetrated the almost undefended Italian fortifications in the valley, breaching the defensive line of the Italian Second Army. To protect the attackers' flanks Alpine Troops infiltrated the strong points and batteries along the crests of the adjoining ridges, playing out their telephone lines as they advanced to maintain contact with their artillery. They made good use of the new German model 08/15 Maxim light machine gun, light trench mortars, mountain guns, flamethrowers and hand grenades.
The attackers in the valley marched almost unopposed along the excellent road toward Italy. The Italian army beat back the attackers on either side of the sector where the central column attacked, but Below's successful central penetration threw the entire Italian army into disarray. Forces had to be moved along the Italian front in an attempt to stem von Below's breakout, but this only weakened other points along the line and invited further attacks. At this point, the entire Italian position was threatened.
The Italian 2nd Army commander Luigi Capello was commanding while bedridden with fever. Realizing that his forces were ill-prepared for this attack and were being routed, Capello requested permission to withdraw back to the Tagliamento. He was overruled by Cadorna who believed that the Italian force could regroup and hold out. Finally, on 30 October, Cadorna ordered the majority of the Italian force to retreat to the other side of the Tagliamento.
Gabriel King
It took the Italians four days to cross the river, and by this time the German and Austro-Hungarian armies were on their heels. About this time, however, the rapid success of the attack caught up with them. Their supply lines were stretched to breaking point and consequently they were unable to launch another attack to isolate a part of the Italian army against the Adriatic. Cadorna was able to retreat further and by 10 November had established a position on the Piave River, where the Central Powers advance ended.
When inadequate provisioning was combined with the gruelling night marches preceding the battle of Caporetto, a heavy toll was imposed on the German and Austro-Hungarian forces. Despite these logistical problems, the initial assault was extremely successful. However, as the area controlled by the combined Central Powers forces expanded, an already limited logistical capacity was overstrained.
Luigi Cadorna was forced to resign after the defeat, a final straw according to the Prime Minister, Vittorio Emanuele Orlando. Cadorna was known to have maintained poor relations with the other generals on his staff and by the start of the battle had sacked hundreds of officers. In addition, he was detested by his troops as being too harsh. Cadorna had been directing the battle 20 miles (32 km) behind the front and retreated another 100 mi (160 km) to Padua when replaced.
Italian losses were enormous: 10,000 were killed, 30,000 wounded and 265,000 were taken prisoner – morale was so low among the Italian troops, mainly due to Cadorna's harsh disciplinary regime, that most of these surrendered willingly. About 3,000 guns, 3,000 machine guns and 2,000 mortars were lost, along with a vast amount of stores and equipment. The Central Powers lost 70,000 killed and wounded.
Jacob Thompson
After this battle, the term "Caporetto" gained a particular resonance in Italy. It is used to denote a terrible defeat – the failed General Strike of 1922 by the socialists was referred to by Mussolini as the "Caporetto of Italian Socialism".
The Italian Front in WW1 is a neglected part of a neglected conflict in wargaming. Only one ruleset I can think of (Chadwick's old Over The Top) even includes an Italian army list. But it's a fascinating story, equally epic in its bravery and human suffering to anywhere else. This is were Rommel and Hemingway both fought. Caporetto is a historic encounter in terms of the weapons and tactics used, and offers a lot of potential for the strategic gamer.
It is 135 years since the Gunfight at the O.K. Corral, a 30-second shootout between lawmen and members of a loosely organized group of outlaws called the Cowboys that took place at about 3:00 p.m. on Wednesday, October 26, 1881 in Tombstone, Arizona Territory. It is generally regarded as the most famous shootout in the history of the American Wild West. The gunfight was the result of a long-simmering feud, with Cowboys Billy Claiborne, Ike and Billy Clanton, and Tom and Frank McLaury on one side and town Marshal Virgil Earp, Special Policeman Morgan Earp, Special Policeman Wyatt Earp, and temporary policeman Doc Holliday on the other side. All three Earp brothers had been the target of repeated death threats made by the Cowboys, who were upset by the Earps' interference in their illegal activities. Billy Clanton and both McLaury brothers were killed. Ike Clanton claimed that he was unarmed and ran from the fight, along with Billy Claiborne. Virgil, Morgan, and Doc Holliday were wounded, but Wyatt Earp was unharmed. The shootout has come to represent a period of the American Old West when the frontier was virtually an open range for outlaws, largely unopposed by law enforcement officers who were spread thin over vast territories.
The gunfight was not well-known to the American public until 1931, when Stuart Lake published the initially well-received biography Wyatt Earp: Frontier Marshal two years after Earp's death. The book was the basis for the 1946 film My Darling Clementine, directed by John Ford, and the 1957 film Gunfight at the O.K. Corral, after which the shootout became known by that name. Since then, the conflict has been portrayed with varying degrees of accuracy in numerous Western films and books, and has become an archetype for much of the popular imagery associated with the Old West.
Connor Roberts
Despite its name, the gunfight did not take place within or next to the O.K. Corral, which fronted Allen Street and had a rear entrance lined with stalls on Fremont Street. The shootout actually took place in a narrow lot on the side of C. S. Fly's Photographic Studio on Fremont Street, six doors west of the O.K. Corral's rear entrance. Some members of the two opposing parties were initially only about 6 feet (1.8 m) apart. About 30 shots were fired in 30 seconds. Ike Clanton's brother Billy had been killed, and he filed murder charges against the Earps and Doc Holliday. The lawmen were eventually exonerated by a local justice of the peace after a 30-day preliminary hearing and then by a local grand jury.
The gunfight was not the end of the conflict. On December 28, 1881, Virgil Earp was ambushed and maimed in a murder attempt by the Cowboys. On March 18, 1882, Cowboys fired from a dark alley through the glass door of a saloon, killing Morgan Earp. The suspects in both incidents furnished alibis supplied by other Cowboys and were not indicted. Wyatt Earp, newly appointed as Deputy U.S. Marshal in Cochise County, then took matters into his own hands in a personal vendetta. He was pursued by county sheriff Johnny Behan, who had received a warrant from Tucson for Wyatt's shooting of Frank Stilwell.
Wild West shootouts have always been a popular staple of skirmish wargaming - and what better gun battle is there to recreate than the most famous shootout of them all?
This month's community project is a recon or scout asset.
Christopher Sanchez
> Svetozar Boroević
Interesting guy, doesn't get as much press as he deserves.
One of the more competent commanders of the war (especially by Austro-Hungarian standards). Was actually pretty decent to his men as well and was something of a hero to them.
After the war the Yugos wouldn't take him in and he died in pseudo-exile in Austria, they even confiscated all his belongings while they were being transported through Slovenia.
Logan Long
What were that supposed to mean?
Gabriel Taylor
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Robert Powell
>2016 >playing any scale other than 6mm
Christian Campbell
>2016 >being a scale elitist
Zachary Ward
>>being
Jordan White
>2016 >not carrying a full battalion in a shoebox
Jeremiah Sullivan
You lose, I primarily play 6mm so I DO do that.
I also have 28mm because that's also fun.
Easton Cruz
You just need really fucking big feet, and you can place a battalion in a shoebox.
Aaron Baker
I tried a bit of pigment wash on my armored cars but i'm not sure if i got the mixture right between varnish, water and pigment. It felt very watery. At least it changed the color of the texture paint underneath a little so some variety came in. Hopefully that stays once the stuff is dried.
Ryan Powell
>Not carrying 3 corps in a bookcase
Jayden Gonzalez
If you're planning to do it in Bolt Action you should be aware that there is an individual entry for Free French forces in the France and the Allies supplement.
Juan Nelson
My Veeky Forums interests have only laid with RPGs until now, but I've got a real urge to try out some tabletop wargames. Not really interested in anything GW-related, not sure which era I'd like to try out (probably medieval European stuff).
I'm amazed out how affordable a lot of these miniatures are 30-something medieval soldiers for £20, which would get you like 10 regular 40k troops or something.
I'm thinking it's going to be hard to find people to play with though, there's not too strong of a culture of tabletop gaming here in the UK (at least in my previous experience), and I imagine most that are into wargames are probably going to gravitate towards Warhammer or whatever.
What era did you guys first get into? Did you come to historical games after first getting into Warhammer or something similar?
Austin Collins
>which would get you like 10 regular 40k troops or something. More like 5.
Mate, the UK is where historica wargaming was born basically.
Jason Gonzalez
>not too strong of a culture of tabletop gaming here in the UK
Wut. Wargaming in the modern sense was invented in Britain. It has the most clubs/groups and manufacturers of pretty much anywhere.
Where ever you live there is probably at least ONE wargaming club. That discounts people that just do it in there own home with there friends or former clubmates.
Tyler Baker
If you're in Hampshire there's historical gamers all over the place. Many of them in here. Because everyone is from Hampshire now.
>What era did you guys first get into? Did you come to historical games after first getting into Warhammer or something similar?
I started gaming with 2nd edition 40k. I stopped GW gaming when 6th edition warhammer became 7th, and just carried on from there with a mess of games, mostly historical. The locals play historicals pretty much solidly after everyone gradually fell out with GW, despite occasional bouts of Necromundaitus and Blood Bowl Fever. But there's no discrimination for/against historicals really, they just play what they enjoy.
Thomas Morales
>there's not too strong of a culture of tabletop gaming here in the UK (at least in my previous experience), and I imagine most that are into wargames are probably going to gravitate towards Warhammer or whatever.
UK is basically THE wargaming country. Almost all historical miniature makers (as well as GW themselves) comes from there.
Now to your questions:
>My Veeky Forums interests have only laid with RPGs until now, but I've got a real urge to try out some tabletop wargames.
Is there a LFGS (local friendly game store) in or near your town? You should go there and see/ask what people play in your area. Look at facebook for wargaming groups/clubs in your area too. Again, ask what is popular in your town. Chances are that lots of people will play Warhammer, as it is always the case.
There are some other very popular games though. X-Wing for example. Now thats not really /hwg/-related of course.
The most popular historical games these days are Bolt Action (WW 2 with 28mm minis/i.e. "Warhammer scale"), Flames of War (WW2 15mm miniatures, so you field bigger armies and lots of tanks) and SAGA (a dark age skirmish game where you field a Warband of Vikings, Danes, Saxons etc). SAGA has a supplement that lets you play armies of the crusader era too.
The good thing about historical miniatures is that you can easily use them for different rulesets. Nobody will stop you if you use your Tiger tanks from Flames of War for a game of Battlegroup Kursk or even something silly like Tanks! (basically a skirmish game with only tanks. i.e. X-Wing in WW2)
>What era did you guys first get into? I was always a ww2 guy and probably will always be.
Besides looking for local players/clubs etc, just get yourself a box of plastic knights if thats what you are into. Chances are you can use them for something at least. I imagine Kings of War to be somewhat popular in GB too. It got a supplement for historical battles which apparently is compatible with the fantasy game too
Charles Cooper
>there's not too strong of a culture of tabletop gaming here in the UK
If you post where you are you'll probabley find someone in this thread nearby or who knows a club you could go to.
Then again you could throw a rock out your window and get much the same result.
I'm in Leeds BTW since I know some people on here get antsy about posting where they are.
Bentley Baker
>'m in Leeds BTW since I know some people on here get antsy about posting where they are unless they are from Hampshire, apparently. They aren't shy at all.
Lincoln Hill
Any good games to be played on a 2x2 board? (Excluding dbx style games) I'm a nospacefag.
Lucas Bennett
What period/style of game?
Ronin is played on a 2x2 board.
Carter Bailey
I've no preference just want to know what's available. Thanks for the recommendation I'll check it out.
Carter Morgan
Open Skirmish uses a 2x2 as well if i remember right.
Joshua Mitchell
>Wut. Wargaming in the modern sense was invented in Britain.
I was just sort of referring to tabletop in general, maybe I just live in an area where there's a particular drought. I do know that what gaming there is, is usually wargaming rather than RPGs or card stuff.
>If you're in Hampshire there's historical gamers all over the place. Many of them in here.
I'm in the North.
>The good thing about historical miniatures is that you can easily use them for different rulesets.
This is one of the things that really appeals to me about historicals rather than a 'franchise' wargame. I'll probably get some of the Perry Miniatures War of the Roses figures, saw someone mention them earlier in this thread (or the last) and they seem really nice.
Jason Hernandez
Finished the scouts for my British FIW army, and by extension this months project. I'm not 100% happy with all of them, probably need to work on my uniform red painting when my Regulars arrive.
A lot of people on the internet have mentioned that the North Star miniatures are so much bigger than the Conquest miniatures and so wouldn't mix well, however I've added a photo comparing them at the end and, whilst clearly bigger I hardly think its an unmixable range.
Leo Russell
Looking tidy matey. I think they mix alright as well.
Luis Watson
Where abouts in the North are you?
Jaxson Smith
Never even heard of Open Combat before, though Ronin has really piqued my interest. Thanks.
Carson Davis
Yeah sorry I meant Open Combat.
Camden Williams
Ronin's got a good system, though it's a little short on historical accuracy. (At least the designers knew what an ashigaru-gashira was)
Logan Bailey
>(At least the designers knew what an ashigaru-gashira was)
That's a comfort woman assigned to please an ashigaru, right?
Lucas Thompson
Wouldn't that be a Korean
Isaiah Walker
>2016 >not jet evolved to using counters why bicker over scale when you are all still stuck mucking about at sub regimental level when Fronts are at your finger tips.
Cooper Robinson
My progress with the monthly project so far. Hopefully i can finish at least one of them tomorrow.
Jayden Barnes
I'm not doing anything this time because I have nothing of worth
Working on some bronze age warriors and some celts/romans but thats all for Runequest/Glorantha
Gavin Russell
post them anyway
Easton Barnes
The guy went to stand at the post, and was told full well he was going to be shot dead, they even told him. And he did it, because he was ordered.
Following orders, particularly clearly fatal ones, is necessary for the army. Someone who follows those orders without hesitation is a hero.
Blake Rodriguez
Nah, only put on some base colours, will post them in the future though.
Luke Myers
Sheffield sort of way
Justin Robinson
Sweet! Another Sheffield-user. You in the city?
Ian Hughes
Dying for no purpose is stupid, there's a difference between listening to the chain of command and running pointlessly into getting yourself killed.
Isaac Sanchez
Finished all my GHQs, just waiting on some scotia to see if they are shitty. The modern russian uniform isnt quite this bright green, but its the only method I could find to stop them totally vanishing at tabletop distance. USMC on the left, just for laff. GHQ tanks super comfy to paint, 10/10 Gonna use the budget grassy mat beneath them to make modular tiles
Logan Peterson
>running pointlessly into getting yourself killed.
It's WWI, that's what everyone was doing.
Nolan Bailey
>Cmon private! All the cool kids are doing it! Say no to bullets
Dominic Lewis
>Say no to bullets Go home grandpa
Noah Jackson
user, I'm sorry.
I'm actually in Barnsley.
Nicholas Mitchell
>Barnsley No user, IM sorry
Chase Gonzalez
Well at least they were trying to achieve something, unlike that general, "lol gunna get a private shot cause fuck privates"
Noah White
I'm so very sorry.
Grayson Thomas
That general is Luigi Cadorna, even during his actual offensives that was still basically his attitude.
Essentially, ordering that one private to get shot was just micromanagement for him.
Jose Ramirez
It's ok user, I'm not really in Leeds.
I'm in Bradford.
Evan Wright
At least we're not in Rotherham.
Kayden Moore
As-salāmu ʿalaykum senpai
Matthew Wright
Who knows? they all look the same anyway
Anthony Roberts
>It's WWI, that's what everyone was doing. not the conscientious objectors. Those guys dont get enough publicity. Refuse to fight, so get strung up in front of the lines on a pole in plain sight, essentially crucified in no mans land. Pretty rough.
Jaxson Morales
>essentially crucified in no mans land.
Good.
The British ones maybe had an excuse, because Britain was never under threat of a land invasion and the WW1 U-boats were overhyped garbage. But French objectors? The Germans absolutely *would* have destroyed their country. Yes, France bears some of the responsibility for the war starting in the first place (not nearly as much as Germany/Austria/Serbia/etc), but they were the ones being outright invaded. Being a conscientious objector when your country isn't fighting for its life is fine or when you're the aggressor (see also: every American war ever, and especially every American war in the 20th century), but if your country is attacked by another nation bent on your nation's annihilation? You don't get to have that luxury. "Fight or be crucified" is a perfectly reasonable bent in that situation.
Christopher James
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Henry Carter
>if your country is attacked by another nation bent on your nation's annihilation
Was this even a thing for France? Germany mostly just wanted to knock them out of the war so they could focus on Russia, at least initially. And later on, major offensive efforts like Verdun didn't exactly have the goal of conquer France at the end of them.
Adrian Jenkins
eh its still pretty dumb. If someone doesn't want to fight, put them to use somewhere else, in a factory or something, or train them as a medic. Stringing someone up in no mans land is a bit of a waste of man power. But hey WW1 is essentially waste of man power: the war
Kayden Gutierrez
It's based on an anecdote of Cadorna, it illustrates the kind of general he was.
Parker Johnson
And then there's THATGUY with the Napoleonic bicorn on.
Lucas Rogers
If it doesn't stick try some pigment fixer.
Either (air)brush on before pigment or airbrush over top. It might darken the color if you apply it on top of pigment.
Levi Clark
Skirmish Sangin
Otherwise you're probably looking at 2 or 3mm
Kevin James
Do you have any H&R? how well do the vehicles/infantry mix with GHQ?
About to take the plunge on starting 6mm. I just got a few GHQ models for cheap off ebay but H&R is so much cheaper. I've heard their recent stuff is actually pretty high quality so I'm thinking H&R might make the bulk of my collection.
Mason Gonzalez
That's a carabinieri hat, user
Jace Wright
Not him but yeah, tons, and some GHQ as well.
They don't mix too well because GHQ has a lot more detail (exaggerated and otherwise) but are also in the larger 1:285 scale with a tendency to be even larger at times, where as H&R are far more solidly 1:300, their infantry are about 5mm where as GHQ is about 7mm.
Personally I prefer H&R because I'm poor and they're practically local, and when doing anything with a camo pattern detail just disappears anyway. Plus their gun barrels are suitably but not overly thick and don't bend if looked at funny unlike GHQ and their hair-thickness guns on many things.
Camden Brown
LAV-75
Adrian Hall
>you're the aggressor (see also: every American war ever, and especially every American war in the 20th century) Haha yes. Remember when the US declared war on Germany?
Brody Mitchell
>Remember when the US declared war on Germany? yeah weren't they 2 or 3 years late in each world war? in WW2 it was only Japan that brought them into the fight.
Jack Diaz
Be fair: if America hadn't been a bunch of racist, imperialist pricks out to fuck over Japan specifically, then Pearl never would have been attacked. They brought that attack entirely upon themselves, and I don't blame the Japenese one bit for taking every strategic advantage they could.
So yes, America was the aggressor and japan was merely defending its own interests. That's not even debateable.
Daniel Williams
not him but the embargoes placed on Japan were mostly a product of their invading china and everyone around. If japan had just laid low during WW2, no one would have cared about them.
Leo Green
Also not him, but if Japan hadn't decided to rape it's way across Asia or you know, stop raping their way across Asia, maybe the US wouldn't have found it necessary to take away their means to do so.
Deciding not to trade with someone is hardly an aggressive maneuver equivalent to declaring war. If your local convince store decides to stop selling to you after you beat a puppy to death going in a breaking the storeowner's knees is hardly a justified response.
Owen Williams
>Still a bicorn hat.
Daniel Allen
Come on, people - Pacific theatre of WW2 was nothing more than a showdown between two newbie (& on the rise) imperialistic nations, with some meddling interference from two old, run-down (& on the way out) ones.
Brody Anderson
Pls don't bite the bait. It's more than 70 years old and you'll get sick
Asher Gonzalez
Spoiled rotten, huh? Welp, I'm off to recreate it (30 years sooner than historically) in 'Rule the Waves'. (assuming I don't fall asleep duking it out in a pre-dreadnought fight with Russians)
Xavier Evans
FiveCore's good for that. Two Hour Wargames games, too. Lots of games if you don't mind downscaling or using more abstracted units, but that's always a thing.
Skirmish games work well for smaller boards if you really bump up the terrain complexity. Larger stuff... well, 3mm is good and cool.
If you can go to a 3x2 then you've got a 6x4 board by halving all measurements, which means you can play basically anything.
Cameron Powell
I don't know if this is the place to post this, but are there any alt-history wargames out there?
Ian White
>The Germans absolutely *would* have destroyed their country.
Bullshit.
They country wasn't destroyed in 1871 and wasn't destroyed in 1940 either. (Battle damage aside). There was no "Lets destroy the Eifel tower and the Louvre to show the french who is boss"-agenda at any point in the german minds.
That being said, refusing to fight is a crime for any soldier, no matter in what danger the country actually is and therefore its punished. Severely, because its a severe crime. The worst thing about people like that is not that they betray their country which might be in need, but they betray their very next comrades which undermines the morale of the whole unit as well as putting these men into direct danger.
>You are on guard duty Louis >Louis runs away/refuses to raise an alarm >No guard for x hours, unit gets wiped out in their sleep
I get that not everyone is feeling patriotic towards a country or doesn't has great feelings about a Kaiser or rich politicians but acting like this is just selfish and simply a dick-move. Guys like that are just assholes in my eyes.
Dominic Gray
Shut your mouth. That is just propaganda and America is the good guys by definition.
Jace Morris
Well you can't get to alt-history without going through the history first, so this is a good start user (but try /awg/ as well). Yes, there are literally dozens of alt-history wargames covering almost all periods. Weird WW2 and Cold War Gone Hot seem to be especially popular. I really like "A Very British Civil War" which is about a war in Britain 1938 after Edward VIII refuses to abdicate. The guys at Strategy & Tactics magazine got into that sort of thing and a number of their games (available in our OP) deal with things like Operation Olympic, the CSA winning the Civil War, or a Sino-Soviet battle. Was there anything specific you were looking for?
John Roberts
I was wondering if there were any really radical settings out there, like Napoleon actually maintaining his empire or Rome never existing as a unifying force, that sort of thing.
Dominic Flores
I getcha. There are a few oddball things that come to mind like SPI's Dixie, which is a second ACW occuring in the 1930s after the south won the first; or their classic Nato, Nukes and Nazis which is set fifty years after Germany wins WW2. My knowledge of this subject is pretty weak sorry, hence the focus on old-school hex and chit because at least I know those! Again you might like to ask the nice anons at /awg/.
Miniatures-wise if you wanted to do something like Napoleon or Rome triumphing in the long term, then all you'd really need to do is find an appropriate period ruleset, customize some figures, and fluff it to your taste.
Asher Evans
/hwg/ anons who play Impetus: what are your preferred armies?
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There's literally a club in your town.
Jack Cruz
anything with phalangites
Leo Smith
Cadorna is a god damn ass, good god I hate him and everything I see or read of the guy makes me hate him even more.
Austin Long
If you are a objector from the moment you are drafted I don´t see the problem with it. Still gets you strung up though.
Jose Martin
Too add to this, this comes from the mouth of a pacifist nationalist so there's that. I don't like fighting, I only like reading/watching/telling about it. I really like my little men doing fights though.
If I were drafted I'd want a position as a truck-driver or something.
Ryder Rogers
>The Germans absolutely *would* have destroyed their country. That was never even remotely planned. The whole german war effort was about kicking the french out of the war to focus on russia, to keep them off Austria's back while they would settle things with the serbs.
You're spouting french propaganda of that time, which intended to keep the war going.
