Horus Heresy General /hhg/

I guess we can use Rizon I think it's called.
Welcome.

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You mean the wiki? Because I'd love to go there.

Can we definitely put down 8/tg/ as our contingency?

What I wouldn't miss are these pop-ups.
>Meet & Date Adorable Russian Ladies
I think Japanese Moot has a Russian fetish.
Why not?

Why yes?
Also, Russian ladies are always looking for men like you, user. That's a fact of life.

I'd make a poll, but I don't know all the options.

I wonder who will be the OverTzeentch 9999999

I'll guess Anonymous will be.

There's way more women in Russia than men because of the USSR and their wars, gulags, etc. At least that used to be the case. Not all that surprising women are desperate enough to be mail order brides

I also make $157326 from my home and doctors hate me, here's my secret www.come-on-now.tumblr.reddit.nk

>.nk

What are the odds on custards getting Best Pattern jetbikes, opening the way for easy ("easy") conversions of skyhunters that aren't the ridiculous dickbikes?

>best pattern
>anything other than bullock

I will fight you, heretic!

I'm getting ads for arab ladies. Makes sense since I'm swedish...

Anyone got any ideas what we could see for agents of the warmaster?

I wanna see daemonic assassins like spear from nemesis, maybe some kind of davinite priest able to summon daemons, maybe some kind of dark mechanicum assassin?

Jetbike chariots when?

I'm getting ads for super secrets about penny from the big bang theory.

What do people use for Alpharius? Could I just take a regular marine and put them on a suitably large base?

I'd like to see some kind of infiltrator designed to reduce enemy leadership and create animosity

Most people us the alpharius that comes with BaC, but I reckon there'll be more people using the on that comes out with BoP as I think it looks nicer

Some kind of AL saboteur who can be taken by everyone? Like how any loyalist army can take Endryd Haar?

Kabuki studios hydra knight

This comment cannot express how much my sides were blown away.
>Tfw we managed to acquire kebab and turn it into a taco without needing to have muslims, only 0.003%
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Aren't the TS getting a psyker assassin unit?

I have a few lore question, did new recruits go through a similar process in 30k as they did in 40k? And what was the emperor's children like pre-fall to rapey chaos?

I'm gettimg burning of propsero tomorrow and am going to make it how the box suggests and use it to start a space wolves and a thousand sons army. I was thinking of adding some space wolves and thousand spins shoulder pads from forge world to differentiate them a bit, would this be enough or should I do more legion specific customisation? Also what else do I need to start playing 30k? Someone mentioned a red book in another thread?

>I have a few lore question, did new recruits go through a similar process in 30k as they did in 40k? And what was the emperor's children like pre-fall to rapey chaos?
The recruitment process was far more lax as they took kids, bums off the street, and even a hybrid(Typhon/Typhus) into their ranks. This created flaws within the process that allowed Chaos to exploit and turn over many legionaries. As for the EC they were perfectionists. They valued dueling, and art which is a reason why the Emperor loved them. They were one of the few legions who actually did something other than just kill. You can actually see it all in the FW books in the OP links.

If you're just collecting that sounds completely fine

If you're trying to get an actual game army, I would implore you to pick one legion and stick with it until you have a reasonable sized army before starting another

Unless disposable income is no problem, in which case buy 3 boxes of prospero and go nuts

So the Vulturax is out, and its rules seem unchanged from the last preview we got. It still has flareshields, but a flareshield only "operates against shooting attacks that strike a vehicles' front arc"
And the vulturax is not a vehicle. Oh FW, how you make me laugh sometimes.

Unless you really, really like losing every game, I'd go PotL instead and use Headhunter models as veterans. Because Headhunters and their ROW are really

really

very bad.

>space wolves and a thousand sons army
>Taking the two legions without rules and allying them together
By the Emperor's command

The first few HH books cover it well but as the other user said, they were unusual in that they also valued art, poetry, duelling in honourable if impractical ways. They were also obsessed with perfection and prided themselves on being (in their minds) the best legion almost to the point of arrogance, always meticulously planning every assault and battle.

Sorry I am not planning on allying them together but On slowly building up two seperate legions and learning the rules of the bop box and then the Horus heresey with my girlfriend

>And what was the emperor's children like pre-fall to rapey chaos?
Very good generalists both at strategy, tactics and personal skill, many times outpacing the specialists of other legions. Preferred speed in battle and meticulous planning in strategy whenever possible. Honorable duellists both in war and peace, held much respect for strong opponents. Valued all manner of fine arts highly.
Perfectionists to the point of obsession, vainglorious, arrogant, pompous and jealous.

What's bad about them? Too many points or is the downside of needing to slay the enemy warlord too much?

Points. They cost double of veterans and like 1.5 of seekers and do almost everything worse. Apparently they're getting a well deserved points decrease sometime in the future at which time they'll be fine.

Post favorite LOWs for 3k games

Ordinatus sagittar!

>Mk4 with a Mk3 chest plate

I didn't know how much I wanted it until I saw it

At last I truly see

It's not a MkIII chest plate, it's the CC chestplate that comes with the MkIV power weapons set

I don't doubt you but that looks like Mk3 to me

Headhunters are waaaay to many points. For example : a headhunter kill team with 10 combi-plasma (which is the only way to make them at least a little usefull) are around the same amount of points as 10 terminators with combi-plasma. And banestrike ammo is mostly a crap version of rending for which you pay points ánd lose 8'' range on your bolters.

The ROW itself is mostly limits for little to no gain. The only real benefit it provides is re-roll sieze, but there are other ROW that do that too. And for that you can't start any vehicles on the table, have to take the worst unit in 30k as troops, have to slay the warlord or hand over a lot of VP. There's just no redeeming factor, even the Ld. before shooting is only one game turn and likely to have no effect on vehicles.

Is the Knight styrix any good? That volkite gun is sexy, I want it.

forgeworld.co.uk/en-BE/Legion-MKIV-Power-Weapons-Set

Well darn. I guess I'll use them as Vets then.

It's true it does, when I first saw the MkIV power weapon set I was like "why does it come with MkIII chests?"

Love it

Don't feel bad, you can just use them as seekers or vets until they're buffed

I once got tabled turn three by a headhunter leviathal list with Alpharius lol

The army was nice AF though and the game was good so IDGAF

Are Seekers viable anti-TEQ with Scorpius ammo?

How did he get you?

They can do it alright if that's their set target. They can do it ridiculously well if they take combi weapons.

On Discord you can rename people I think, and yeah AngryWiteGuy would be banned if I was admin.

Warhound Scout Titan with turbo laser destination destroyers

It is. Look at the TS next to him. The MkIII plate has the segmented armour visible from the sides, while the MKIV armoured torso has smooth sides (like the MkIV) and often some cabling. The SW in just has the SW upgrade torso, which is a MkIII torso.

Nah, It's the CC chestplate from the MkIV power weapons set, it's different to a regular MkIV Chestplate

forgeworld.co.uk/en-BE/Legion-MKIV-Power-Weapons-Set

The knight Styrix is a sex machine, I'd avoid that hekaton claw upgrade, though.

It also, as of now, is not supported in 40k. You coukd always houserule that though.

Preferred enemy can be brutal, lots of combi-plas and banestrike in high enough numbers really starts to add up

I didn't really have much artificer armour so he picked off my sergeants and special weapons guys pretty easily, while alpharius and lerneans walked through my praetor and his jetbike boys with ease

The thing that gave him the most trouble was my storm eagle, but a lucky lascannon shot killed it which in turn ended the game for me

Eh I'm not bothered about using it in 40k, I play CSM there anyway

Can you take it without the hekaton? Just give it a reaper instead?

You'd need 4100 points for that IIRC.

Yeah, the ordinatii and titans are basically only for apocalypse games

WHich coincidentally, I had my first game of HH apocalypse recently. 5000pts of IH, 2500pts of loyalist DG, 2500pts of WS, vs 5000pts of cults, 2500pts of AL, and 2500pts of Daemons. It was a fun as fuck clusterfuck

Absolutely and as its based of the plastic kit you can do just that modelwise.

Please share this story with the class. I would love to hear it.

Nah, that's the one with the Volcano Cannon. 700 Points

Does anyone have a link to the new WD?

mega.nz/#F!Wl5DAbCb!TYxZG4CgX_x-NJu7JBwbZQ!LoBA0bqS

Nah, you can take it in the Mechanicum Leviathan formation, 1 LoW Warlord with another 2 optional LoW. It ignores the usual restrictions on LoW, you can even take an Allied detachment with it.

Thanks.

Reading The First Heretic, and wow I hate Lorgar even more now.
Emperor: I made you as a warrior, go forth and conquer the galaxy
Lorgar: I don't wanna
At least Magnus tried to dissuade him

you're welcome

You have to remember the HH series is a post hoc explanation from bad writers about events that were left vague for a reason. Expecting anything good to come out of it is folly.

The Hekaton is an upgrade, it has a Reaper chainsword as default, the claw costs 25 points.

In terms of rules, both are S:D AP:2 Melee weapons, but the Claw has Wrecker as an additional special rule.
The major difference between the two is the Wrecker rule in melee and the fact that the claw has a twin-linked rad cleanser as well. (a S:2 AP:5 Assault 1 Fleshbane Radphage flamer).

>mechanicum yet again not playing by the same rules as everyone else
Figures.

It requires express permission from your opponent.

Its also just as usable by Legions as it is by mechanicum

seconded

>5000 points of cults

Holy shit, so many models.

It was from a campaign me and my friends ran months ago, the final big climactic battle as the planet was getting swallowed up by a warp storm

Shit was pretty hectic, the cults player had something ridiculous like nearly 300 levys on the board, we had to borrow troops from nearly every IG player we knew, as well as he had shitloads of russes driving round fucking shit up.

The AL player was playing orbital assault and was just dropping shit everywhere it was needed, made it really hard to form a good counter attack, that and the giant levy hordes everywhere.

The daemons player had a mostly khorne army but had a few tzeentchian heralds who were just trying to summon more bloodletters and pink horrors, as well as having anggrath stomping round fucking shit up.

The IH player had a few squads of immortals in Land raiders and his praetor with gorgons in a spartan. Oh yeah and a fellblade and a glaive. I think that glaive must of SHOOOMed nearly 3000pts worth of models off of the board throughout the whole game, it was ridiculous.

The DG player had mostly tacs and flamer support squads, as well as a couple squads of termis with his praetor. They all died holding the line against a fucking huge tide of daemons, the highlight of which was anggrath deleting the praetor and his command squad in one charge. The flamer squads managed to almost triple their worth in points killing daemons and levys.

I was the WS, I mostly had bike squads, javelins and veteran squads in storm eagles. I spent most of my time chasing AL round the board, which was quite fitting to the narrative of our campaign as they dicked me over at nearly every corner during the campaign.

All in all, loyalists won, we had about 1400pts worth of models, which was pretty much just the fellblade, a few of my biker squads, and the IH and WS praetors. The DG all died gloriously, knee deep in daemons.

I'll finish up what I was saying in another post

>The DG player had mostly tacs and flamer support squads, as well as a couple squads of termis with his praetor. They all died holding the line against a fucking huge tide of daemons, the highlight of which was anggrath deleting the praetor and his command squad in one charge. The flamer squads managed to almost triple their worth in points killing daemons and levys.
Praise the Man Emperor for their sacrifice.

The Traitors had pretty much nothing left, all of the cults and daemons were dead, the AL had a squad of tacticals and a squad of seekers who were about to get angrily curbstomped by the last of the immortals and my bikers

HIGHLIGHTS

>My cortus clearing a path through levies but then getting blown up by a melta grenadier squad, but leaving the perfect opening for my praetor and his jetbikers to charge the AL praetor next turn, finally killing him after weeks of trying to

>the fellblade killing anggrath turn six whilst on it's last hull point, pretty much winning the game for us

>almost 3000pts of daemons and death guard deleting each other over the course of two turns

>AL dread missing spectacularly with their plasma cannons and hitting a squad of levys who were about to overrun my recon squads, which caused the levys to break morale

>a psychic battle between a tzeentch herald and a DG librarian, which resulted in mortarion being right as the librarian and his squad were dragged into the warp after failing perils

All in all probs the best game of warhammer I've ever played, took nearly 4 days playing on and off, and also set up the next campaign we were planning quite nicely.

Go be wrong somewhere else.

>which resulted in mortarion being right as the librarian and his squad were dragged into the warp after failing perils
Sounds like you had a killer game. How did Anggrath survive till turn 6 when there was both fellblade AND glaive on the table?

Just realised a typo there, it was nearly 500 not 300 levys lol

We drew the line there because we physically couldn't fit anymore in their deployment zone, despite it being nearly half the board

FUCKING GLORIOUS

The glaive got blown up really quick so didn't get much of a chance to shoot at him, and he kept his distance from the fellblade as well as a sea of levys and various types of grenadier trying to blow it up

holy fucking shit
most GEQ's ive ever seen on the table is 200, cant even imagine 500
you happen to have any pics?

Nope, I'm trying to get in contact with some of my friends who I played it with but they're all either asleep or at work, fucking normies

After a while we stopped trying to move them individually and just started picking up handfuls and putting them down roughly six inches from where they started. Lots of arms snapped off, probably wasn't the best idea t.b.h

how rage inducing would 40k bikes be in HH games?
obviously making the marines riding them mark 4

This picture is truly a testament to /hhg/s autism

movement trays are your best friends in apocalypse

I use them cause they're cheaper and nicer imo, except my bikers are MkV not MkIV just cause MkV is easier to convert to

If anyone has a problem with them after they've been converted then just don't play them, probably would of been a shit game anyway.

This, even if they dont fit quite as well as fantasy's square bases its still infinitely faster

That was a lesson we learnt, if we were ever to put that many models on the board again we'd definitely have to get some movement trays

>how rage inducing would 40k bikes be in HH games?
REE-
>obviously making the marines riding them mark 4
-EEeeeeee... That would be fine.