>Can turn Titan size = Bigger than other weeny Primarchs
>Smarter than the other Primarchs
>Physic powers so great it made his dad the God Emperor, a Chaos God and all of his brothers jealous and scared of him and made the Emperor tell the others to stop bullying him.
>Stops Space Yiffs from spreading their sick Wolf fetishes across the Imperium
Is it any wonder GW is releasing him first, what a guy
Personally I think Perturabo likely had more in the analytical 'smarts' department, but that's not entirely founded.
Samuel Hall
damn, never noticed how ugly he was. Like, his apotheosis kinda actually made him prittier.
Dylan Rodriguez
I always thought of it as, Magnus is the smartest of the bunch but it's all this esoteric weird stuff, whereas Perturabo is smart and his knowledge is all this useful and practical stuff.
Luckily for Magnus, knowing all about Gnosticism, Hermeticism, the Ars Goetia and Crowley is actually fucking useful when magic is real.
Adrian Taylor
Daemonic fortress.
Asher Hill
They can't. It's not even close. Daemon Primarch Magnus with warp storms around him is easily the most powerful Primarch even more so than Horus with all Chaos God gifts.
Nah. Magnus is next level. The end result of Prospero was supposed to be either Space Wolves dead, Thousand Sons dead, or both dead Horus was leaning on option three. Magnus, realizing this, tried going for Thousand Sons dead but in a way nobody expected; dude was loyal enough to the Imperium to see his WHOLE legion die for it. He was going to out-Rogal-Dorn Rogal Dorn. But with this tactic, and later his small show of what he's actually capable of he actually got Tzeentch's favor. Thus becoming the ultimate win win situation for Magnus where his people survive, the Imperium ppl survive, and Magnus gets to tinker with knowledge/Magic the rest of his life.
All other Primarchs except Magnus and Lorgar got completely outplayed at some point or another. Lorgar willingly turned so he's kind of actually the evilest Primarch. Magnus managed to outsmart Chaos itself for a short while.
Joseph Harris
Magnus could probably heal the Emperor and probably would just to fuck Tzeentch over
Brody Long
Magnus a best
Julian Hernandez
And on top of all that he's got psychic powers, too.
Alexander Bell
Listen man, I love Magnus as much as the next guy, but the whole plan for Chaos made it so that Magnus and his Legion was either going to die or pact with Tzeentch. And also put the Space Wolves on the other side of the galaxy.
Jacob Green
Arihman here, Magnus was a fool.
Jacob Hill
Who the hell are you?!
Elijah Johnson
Who are YOU?
Juan White
So how do you guys feel about the burning of Prospero fluff? Enjoying vindication that the old fluff was always right?
Eli Jones
Magnus is pretty much Dr. Manhattan-tier in the books. Could solo all the other primarchs
Matthew Baker
>based primarch >Magnus >not Leman Russ >glorius white skin >can kill titan sized primarchs >wiser than magnus >made mockery of the most powerful psyker primarch and basically being inmune to his foul arts >broke bitch ass psyker legion in a day easily to purge the imperium from their deviant ways you choose the wrong primarch
Ryan Ramirez
>based primarch >Magnus >not Leman Russ Well you got the first three right. Thanks for trying.
Leo Miller
>The Most Based Primarch Of All Time Will Soon Be Released he was released last week user!!!
Xavier Collins
He really needs to have less blonde hair then that.
But also nice sword? Does Abbadon know your using it?
Hudson Morris
>muh Fagnus is invincible hurr durr >get it´s shit wrecked by a better primarch >hurr yiffs ruin everything, Fagnus dindu nuting wrung durr such butt hurt, sure is nice to have a competent primarch instead a powerless incompetent.
Caleb Martin
Sure is nice having a primarch who's alive.
Lucas Martin
>Does Abbadon know your using it? abbadon forced dryach´nyen to shape shift to that form because he secretly wishes he was a space wolf.
Bentley Gomez
>posting head canon as fact you do know he have communicated with his sons before right?
Jonathan Robinson
>competent prim arch >Leman 'Glass Jaw' Russ Thanks for the laugh user. I'm sure one of these days you get one of these Primarch kills. Finally live up to that Executioner moniker.
Seriously how does it feel to be outclassed by fucking dorn?
Tyler Robinson
In terms of actually getting shit done though, there's only one primarch who can take the crown.
>slaughtered the population of an entire planet in one night with nothing but axes and rage >was literally lobotomized and managed to verbally roast both Russ and Guilliman >saw the Emperor for what he truly was - a tyrant coward with no honor >had nails in his brain and still managed to be an effective warrior >the mere mention of his or his legion's name was enough to get errant worlds to fall in line >after the Heresy he led a bigger campaign than any Black Crusade and destroyed 100 worlds, entire chapters and crippled the Grey Knights for centuries to follow >all with just himself, whatever World Eaters would follow him (who wouldn't?) and enough axes to make an Ork blush >isn't a dirty fucking psyker OR a mutant
Let's face it - we all know who the superior Primarch is here.
Luke Sanchez
>was literally lobotomized and managed to verbally roast both Russ and Guilliman Angron fans confirmed as dumb as their Primarch.
Jace Hernandez
at least he isn´t lion el´jhonson tier glass jaw >knocked by the emperor power fist and recovered within a day >knocked down by the lion best hit and recovered within a day >lion knocked down into coma by some tainted proto Astartes for 10,000+ years how can lion fags live with themselves? ohyeah secret heretics.
>Seriously how does it feel to be outclassed by fucking dorn? Russ didnt lost most of his legion to an obvious trap user :^)
Sebastian Williams
>manlet primarch coming to top tier primarchs disscusion Leman Russ is better than him even with his pre release rules
Julian Walker
>knocked down by the lion best hit and recovered within a day Kek. Yeah well the Lion ate Russ's cheap shot then fought for a straight day. Nice work Russ nice work.
>Russ didnt lost most of his legion to an obvious trap user :^) No he lost it fighting one of the smallest legions with all the Emperors best toys and a surprise attack. Such wolf many wow.
Juan Turner
Perturabo was better then Magnus in my opinion.
>Angron >Verbally roasted by Guilliman Did you even read that part of the book? Angron goes on a (truthful) rant about Guilliman and Papa smurf only responds with "well you're angry so I win this argument"
Benjamin Williams
>well you're angry so I win this argument >Missing the point this hard Wow.
Jose Thomas
>This counts as verbal roasting Educate yourself Pleb
Owen Jenkins
>woman russ
Kayden Morgan
>Educate yourself Pleb Literally the only Primarch unable to conquer their homeworld. Perhaps the reason he was a slave is because he was a little bitch?
Then he goes on a rant about being a slave despite never taking responsibility for his own faults. Gullimans response is so on point because it sums up Angron perfectly. >You’re still a slave, Angron. Enslaved by your past, blind to the future. Too hateful to learn. Too spiteful to prosper. Why bother talking to someone who obviously cant see beyond their own perspective and blames everyone else for their own problems?
Lincoln Jenkins
He really needs a beard. There's no real excuse for a Viking god-king to not have a beard. I'd respect him if he had a beard. Without it he feels like he's just filling in for a REAL wolf-viking lord.
Luis Young
Who the fuck said anything about conquering planets? I was just saying that it's undeniable that Angron verbally roasted Guilliman.
>"What would you know of struggle, Perfect Son? When have you fought against the mutilation of your mind? When have you had to do anything more than tally compliances and polish your armour?" [...] "The people of your world named you Great One. The people of mine called me Slave. Which one of us landed on a paradise of civilization to be raised by a foster father, Roboute? Which one of us was given armies to lead after training in the halls of the Macraggian high-riders? Which one of us inherited a strong, cultured kingdom? And which one of us had to rise up against a kingdom with nothing but a horde of starving slaves? Which one of us was a child enslaved on a world of monsters, with his brain cut up by carving knives? Listen to your blue-clad wretches yelling of courage and honour, courage and honour, courage and honour. Do you even know the meaning of those words? Courage is fighting the kingdom which enslaves you, no matter that their armies outnumber yours by ten-thousand to one. You know nothing of courage. Honour is resisting a tyrant when all others suckle and grow fat on the hypocrisy he feeds them. You know nothing of honour."
Gavin Mitchell
>Who the fuck said anything about conquering planets? I was just saying that it's undeniable that Angron verbally roasted Guilliman. Gulliman and Angron did? Look at the first two sentences dumbass. Like I said perhaps the reason he was a slave is because he was a little bitch?
And like I said again Guilliman rekt his ass with like 10 words. Angrons whole rant boils down to that hes a piss poor Primarch and he cant get over it. Woe is me can be interesting if its done well. It wasnt done well for Angron.
Wyatt James
>Grasping at straws here
Quit trying to turn this into X Primarch sucks thread. It's undeniable that a Angron metaphorically, and almost literally, slaughtered Guilliman.
Grayson Cook
Feel free to post an arguement at any time user. Seriously that would actually be enjoyable.
Gabriel Wright
Angron literally had nails drilled into his brain as a child.
Jace Sullivan
So your saying the Emperor should have just killed him straight away then? Because he was broken form the start?
And even then hes still just blaming something else for his problems. >Everyone else had it so easy with their death worlds and oppressors >I could be as good a Guilliman I just didnt want to try because I'm a slave.
Samuel Johnson
t. ahriman
Michael Johnson
What's changed?
Logan Nguyen
Faggot. Try not committing a fallacy every single minute. You're not even worth arguing with, your intelligence is so feeble.
Owen Taylor
Well you got one question out good job. thanks for trying. I can see why you identify with Angron for sure user.
>Try not committing a fallacy every single minute. >You're not even worth arguing with, your intelligence is so feeble. Huh...
Brandon Stewart
Asked this in another thread, but:
When emps showed up to Magnus and was all "Hey, your legion is fucked, you better fix them", and Magnus traded his eye to stop the flesh change, which in the books has it described as the place where his eye should be is smooth, like he never had one, did Tzeentch alter history?
I mean, did Tzeentch in the course of this deal make it so Magnus never had the eye? Why didn't anyone question why his eye was gone all of the sudden?
Hudson Myers
They went back to the older fluff but mixed it with some of the new.
>He's just a cyclops from the beggining again no trading his eye to save his legion >Magnus now warns the Emperor again instead of not getting it through for no reason >No mention of Tzeentch or cabal help just Magnus powering his warning >Emps sends Russ of to kill Magnus with no Horus involved >Magnus knew the attack was coming but didnt warn TS because hes all sad the Emps keeps rejecting him
Pretty good desu. 100% Inferno will retcon it all again anyway.
David Morales
>Smarter than the other Primarchs this is a good joke
Camden Nguyen
>he's fast >literally genghis khan in space >even faster than those fucking emo elves >is not dead >has the best legion >still loyal >youtube.com/watch?v=5pYbhOVDAkw
Luis Diaz
I answered you already user the fluff goes both ways on that and doesnt go into it. Yes the fluff is that stupid at times. In BL fluff I dont think there's a single mention of Magnus's missing eye after he trades it.
Joseph Parker
Guilliman went into combat against Lorgar, who by that point was one of the most powerful primarchs by virtue of his sorcery and held his own against Angron for a while.
Was Angron right about Guilliman basically being the rich kid who got everything handed to him? Yes he was. That doesn't mean Guilliman is wrong about Angron.
Brandon Williams
>blaming something else for his problems M-maybe because, Emperor forbid, he was right? Just a little? Maybe because even the most unholy balls of OPplsnerf generally don't hold up too well after being lobotomised for their whole life?
William Green
You crying little faggots want some popcorn with your salt? Pathetic.
James Rivera
for real?
That is pretty good. Shame they didn't give BL the double middle finger and make the guy Bjorn as well.
Hudson Cruz
>Gregor fell-handed >Implying Haha yeah you just know everyone is going to use him as pre-box Bjorn.
Aaron Richardson
Blame it on the other guy. I was being completely logical while he was being stupid.
Jonathan Fisher
>Another Primarch dick-waving contest.
I think the only consensus we can all agree on is that nobody gives a shit about Mortarion or Fulgrim.
Henry Diaz
For whatever reason, I always think Susumu Hirasawa themes are the Khan's theme music.
But yeah, I love how Scars and Path of Heaven have treated the Khan. He's Guilliman-tier of reasonable.
Grayson Morales
...
Kayden Diaz
No, you're also a crying little faggot.
Angel Walker
Nah, the initial plan as far as Horus knew was to take out both Legions as they were ultimately still loyal. Part of Magnus diverting that plan was why Tzeentch wanted him so much it's not just the magic. Again, having Magnus as a potential ally was more Tzeentch's personal thing which is why I said Magnus outsmarted Chaos for a short while not entirely as it's impossible to completely outsmart something like Tzeentch, but Magnus went as far as he could which is what made him ultimately worthy as a Tzeentch guy where no other Primarch would be so deserving.
Lorgar just willingly took Chaos in. Horus was tricked by Erebus/the Word Bearers in general. Perturabo was tricked cuz of Olympia. Angron, Curze, and Mortarion couldn't think up of ways to stop their ailing problems (unlike Magnus who was actively being fucked by Tzeentch through the mutations thing and tried to solve it) and joined Chaos. Fulgrim thought killing his BFF meant just falling to Chaos. We have no clue why Alpharius defected to Chaos.
But unlike the rest of those guys, Magnus tried his damn hardest to not become Chaos despite having very active participation from Tzeentch to get it done, and even then Tzeentch had to pull all sorts of bullshit for it to happen.
I am honestly surprised this worked. You would think after all this time plus being fans of goddamn Magnus who figured out how he was getting trolled, people would know to not respond to this.
Joshua Perry
I wonder what Fulgrim's relationship with Sanguinius was. One-sided rivalry, with Fulgrim being the diva who spends all day getting ready to look their best for prom night, only to get shown up by Sanguinius who just wakes up, and goes about the day like normal and wins without even knowing caring that there was a contest?
Lucas Green
>I was being completely logical while he was being stupid. You still havent posted a proper arguemnt. All youve done is say Angron won. Thats it. Like I said post an arguement at anytime it'll be more fun then your ad hominems.
And dont reply to bait posts how new are you?
Josiah Stewart
Your entire post is head canon. And I'm the Magnus fag in this thread.
Brayden Ward
Pretty much. Mortarian doesn't really have a interesting or sympathetic character like Angron or Perturabo, at least not enough to be ranked #2 Primarch in a Veeky Forums strawpoll.
Fulgrim is also pretty lame. He was a total bro and one of the better Primarchs pre-heresy but after that he just blows. >Picks up a chaos sword from a xenos race because it looks pretty and proceeds to become a cocaine snorting sex demon of slaaneshi who got raped by his legion.
Nolan Stewart
Well you're probably right the mongolian throat singing and eurobeat is too lighthearted for the grimdarkness of 40k.
Alpharius fell because the only person who liked him was Horus
Owen Robinson
I'm kind of annoyed that Reflection Crack'd and Angel Exterminatus confirm that Fulgrim got his body back, and ended up drinking the kool-aid. One one hand, it's not proper for a primarch to be possessed like that, but on the other hand, it detracts from the tragedy of his character development.
Like damn, he got a pretty big rug pulled out from under his feet after he realized he killed his BFF, betrayed his father, and a turned his exmplary legion into a bunch of degenerate sense-addicts. And then he suffers the indignity of having his body stolen from him.
Gavin Baker
>Loaded questions are proper arguements
James Smith
>Loaded questions are proper arguements No arguements are arguements? Feel free to answer my original point.
How was Guilliman not 100% right?
Jaxon Flores
Let them have it.
It's probably all they have in their sad pathetic lives, arguing over fictional characters
Nolan Price
yeah, I know
Just wish they went all the way. Collected Visions even describes a battle with all the BoP models in it, where bjorn claws up a sorcerer and loses his arm.
Oliver Wright
I think it's too much free time, attention seeking and a pinch of autism.
Hunter Cook
Horus doesnt even send the Wolves to Prospero. Your entire post theory falls on the first step.
Wyatt Edwards
Yep. You can tell just by the name they were forced to change it and its just a big fuck you to BL.
Jace Ward
One thing that annoys me about Fulgrim tale is how easy he got corrupted to chaos in comparison to motherfucking Kaldor Draigo. >Fulgrim picks up a chaos tainted blade >Falls to Slaanesh by Tuesday
Meanwhile Kaldo Draigo remains pure wielding weapons literally made of daemons and spends all his time in the warp.
William Martinez
umhm
Is that reason confirmed?
Nigga what? Okay, Wolves get sent in by Emps to be like "wtf Thousand Sons? chill" but Horus is the one that changes the plan discreetly to "kill them all". That is what happens. None of what I said is contradictory to that.
Gavin Morris
>but Horus is the one that changes the plan discreetly to "kill them all". This never happened. Not from 2nd edition all the way through to now. Find one piece of fluff that says this.
Luke Roberts
Fulgrim the novel predates Draigo by 4 some-odd years I think. And GK were made to resist Chaos corruption, and they actually know what the fuck Chaos is.
Chase Adams
draigo isn't carrying a demon weapon
you're thinking of Castellan Crowe, the head honcho of the purifiers
Robert Scott
Still. The fact that a normal Astartes like Draigo has more mental fortitude then a Primarch like Fulgrim just seems unfair. At least the other Primarchs like Magnus and Perturabo switched to chaos for more personal reasons. Just casually coming into contact with a sword used by a species that worshipped Slaanesh seems cheap.
I thought that Draigo, at least at one point in time, wield a reformed axe of a bloodthirster or something.
Elijah Turner
is his dick red to?
John Turner
>I thought that Draigo, at least at one point in time, wield a reformed axe of a bloodthirster or something. no that's Logan Grimnar
Thomas Martinez
Horus Heresy Book 7 Prospero. Horus even sends some of his troops to assist Leman Russ.
Christopher Long
>Angron comes from low SES world. >Asks for equity and acknowledgement of his experience and story.
>Guilliman comes from high SES world >the top one percent >lectures Angron about being tough.
Really hard for someone who had it easier than you to be able to talk shit. And speak to you like they know sacrifice.
Justin Perry
>Horus Heresy Book 7 Prospero You mean Inferno the one thats not out yet?
Googling what you just wrote doenst even lead to a proper book? >No results found for "Horus Heresy Book 7 Prospero".
Jackson Flores
No, Alpharius did not even fall to Chaos. He tried to outsmart it like when enlightened by the Cabal. But then he told the cabal to fuck off and did his own thing in trying to help horus win. And we know how dorn thought about that.
Now the interesting question is what does Omegon do?
Daniel Long
>Asks for equity and acknowledgement of his experience and story. You know where this fails? Curze. That guy was batshit insane and he managed to subdue his homeworld.
>lectures Angron about being tough. Lets see what he actually says again because noone seems to be reading it. >You’re still a slave, Angron. Enslaved by your past, blind to the future. Too hateful to learn. Too spiteful to prosper. He is pointing out the hypocrisy of Angron's hissyfit. Not once did Angron rise above his circumstances. He just wallowed in them and them blamed them and those around him failings. Sure he had obstacles in his way that Guilliman didnt but its not like he got over them is it? He still there sitting in his cage that any other Primarch would have broken out of. Thats why Guilliman has no pity for his excuses.
Kayden Stewart
>The Most Based Primarch Of All Time Will Soon Be Released Yeah, I'm gonna need a source for where you got that info from, also nice caps on everything, who are you Jaden Smith posting on Twitter?
Wyatt Flores
Corax, the Khan, Mortarion, Lorgar all of these guys had to fight and lead in order to rule/be free in their homeworlds. What makes Angron special?
Jaxon Bell
>who are you Jaden Smith posting on Twitter? Fucking savage.
Either way just google Demon Magnus Warhammer tv. It's actaully happening user.
Josiah Watson
>Konrad Curze >Didn't get teleported by the Emperor onto his flagship without explanation during the climactic battle
>Angron >Got teleported by the Emperor onto his flagship without explanation during the climactic battle
This is a pretty big fact.
Daniel Robinson
Big enough to wallow your entire existence on this moment? Not even close. The emprah was a dick, but Angron really didn't think things through
Zachary Brooks
>What makes Angron special? What do you mean? I'm saying Angron failed compared to his brothers like you mentioned.
>Konrad Curze He pacified an entire world by himself whilst living in the slums.
>Angron Angron was going to get slaughtered even with his army at his back.
Noone denies Emps didnt screw him there but the reason he pulled him out is he didnt want to let him die.
Adrian Watson
I find that to be a weak argument. The Emperor showed up out of nowhere and killed Mortarian adoptive father just as he was about to be defeated and overwhelmed. He could've easily have done the same with Angron but on a larger scale with his Custodes
Kevin Bell
>The Emperor showed up out of nowhere and killed Mortarian adoptive father He did this because Morts dad was a choas worshipping piece of shit. And noones defending that either.
>He could've easily have done the same with Angron I agree. And like I said >Noone denies Emps didnt screw him there However Angron still failed and that would be forgivable but he never got over it. See here which is where this whole conversation started.
Dylan Mitchell
so this is the mind of a Magnusfag...
Isaac Baker
>tiny arms on magnus
Brody Parker
Googled, so this is going to part of the Forge World Primarch series? If so, he looks like shit compared to the others.
Andrew Cooper
No mang its for 40k. Probably revealed after the next Fenris warzone book. Look at the name at the top of the image.
This could be a sign of the things to come for 40k. I'm expecting 8th to push the clock all the way for to everyones about to die o'clock. Loyalist Primarchs will come back to battle Traitor Primarchs because why wouldnt they want to make that much money? Still its all just guesswork on my end but could be fun.