What's the best gold paint that isn't for airbrushing?
Assuming I can only find GW and Vallejo paints in local stores, are there any good ones among them? I've always liked GW metallics except the gold ones. But I mostly have the older-generation GW paints (some going all the way back to the bullet-shaped twist-top pots - I like that they're stackable, but they like to get stuck when paint dries in the threads).
Cooper Thomas
I have two different GW golds (auric armour and the slightly darker base paint version) and they are alright, but the brighter gold isn't enough to highlight the base one. Maybe their new super bright gold is worth a look?
I've got some vallejo golds too, and I don't like them much. They look very yellow and it looks like glitter paint instead of a metallic sheen.
Ryan Reyes
>Duncan Rhodes General you got that right op
Nicholas Hall
Get the Vallejo airbrush colors. Their metallic range for airbrush is great. Even if you use them with a regular brush.
Jonathan Williams
I like Vallejo Liquid gold a lot.
Logan Morgan
Fuck eyes, seriously. I keep trying to paint eyes going off the 'eavy metal master class but I have no idea how you can consistently do that small of a detail AND angle the direction its looking at.
Half the time I try to have such a small tip, the paint won't even go onto the surface. The other half is when I go over it and fuck up a good face job.
Cooper Lewis
How do you work with plasticard?
I'm an ork player and I want to convert meganobz/`ardboyz from vanilla nobz/boyz. How do you work with plasticard, can you bend it? Can I use any kind of plasticard? Is it easier to build armour or make a new boxy torso myself?
Julian Harris
The new Burning of Prospero sprues have alot of mold lines that needs cleaning D: Anyway, have a newly assembled custodes.
Mason Jackson
I don't do much with plasticard personally, but this youtube channel has a huge number of examples and tutorials of orky plasticard stuff
Will a "tabletop quality" paintjob ruin the resale of my Warmachine miniatures if I decide to sell later?
Landon Reed
As opposed to "Paid commission" quality.
Basically I'm wondering if I should hold off on painting them.
Juan Reyes
Most people want to buy either pro-painted or not at all. It's just work to strip something that doesn't look A++
Jason Howard
Isn't war machine mostly metal?
removing paint from plastic is easy, but removing from metal is even easier.
I've heard of people who will buy "pro painted" and then try to salvage to model to tabletop quality
Tyler Gray
any kind of painting (even putting the model together) hurts re-sell.
Jaxon Parker
please tell me you aren't painting it with the cloak attached
Landon Moore
>Even if you use them with a regular brush. Better off painting them black and adding a white dot on both sides of the iris (or on one side if looking to the side). Easier than doing a black dot over white, imo.
Also, small brushes do dry before you get there. So you want a standard-sized brush that's new enough to have a fine point.
Nicholas Cooper
>painting them black and adding a white dot on both sides of the iris (or on one side if looking to the side). Easier than doing a black dot over white Actually what the masterclass suggested but I might try a bigger brush, or some retardant.
Jose Lopez
I find its better to do no eyes than to do eyes poorly. You can barely tell anyways. Or do what I do and play Salamanders so all your guys have glowing red eyes.
Isaiah Nelson
>People complain if I play w/ unpainted models now >People complain that I painted the models later
Fuck this gay hobby
Christopher Jones
Warmachine is mostly metal stuff right? Or has that changed?
If its metal the paintjob won't matter.
Jaxson Gomez
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Jackson Ward
just paint he models now, but strip the models before you sell them
Austin Cooper
>finally after half of an hour of googling I found this:
Hope it helps fellow ork players : a really nice step by step tutorial for meganobz conversion.
Ryan Russell
This. If you're not painting the models so you can sell them, then why have them in the first place? Metal is so easy to strip.
Nolan Gray
>Just cremate your own child >It's cheaper
Oliver Nguyen
please don't
they're big enough that any missed parts will stand out hardcore
Henry Taylor
No worries man, it's easily removeable.
Jayden Gray
Why are you buying models and then reselling them so often anyways? I don't mind buying painted models, especially if I can get them cheap. I just recently bought an AoBR dread for 13 bucks that looked like it had been primed black and partially painted blue. In reality it had been primed, painted, primed, and painted again. It was a bit of a project, but I managed to salvage it.
Nathan Young
>not having helmets why do people choose the butt ugly exposed heads on models? Seriously it looks stupid as hell and helmets look 1000x better. Also helmets are practical.
Jordan Ward
I like the head option, but I like the helmets more. Don't worry, he only lacks his helmet because in a squad of 10 I want my Shield-Captain to stand out.
Jaxson Ward
Only units without helmets in my army are my space marine scouts.
Jason Adams
>not giving the leader the most impressive hat would not follow into battle/10
Ryder Wilson
Do you find this satisfactory?
Cameron Robinson
much better
Blake Powell
Hm, quite. I'd also put a led on it, if it was an actual model.
Liam Harris
You should only be getting attached to a painted model if you're a skilled artist. Otherwise it's like caring about a rat fetus.
If you're only treating them as gaming tokens you believe you'll sell later, then just netlist and get those models, since you're obviously no in the game for the hobby aspect, so you don't care about what the models look like.
Cameron Lee
Doing some basic basing this morning, any tips for getting more creative with infanty bases?
Jason Flores
Infantry*
Sebastian Turner
Would this bit make sense for conversion? This is a part of vanquisher cannon, I want to turn it into killakan grotzooka.
Evan Allen
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Grayson Clark
My first attempt at a few Alpha Legion marines. I'm not too happy with how the base turned out though. It's Valhallan Blizzard over the older snow texture. Any suggestions?
Austin Davis
I don't know why that uploaded sideways.
Easton Brooks
Waste of a boomgun or killkannon if you ask me.
Hunter Ortiz
I quite like it honestly. Looks like properly churned snow after a lot of marching and frantic maneuvers.
Bentley Sullivan
Alan Davies looks like the like the master of those Tyranids, surveying their advance.
Josiah Flores
That's a truly terrifying thought.
Ethan Wood
My advice is use snow sparingly, in smatterings on a base,
Yours doesn't look bad really
Austin Davis
Finally getting some work done on my Khador army. Im going to do the other half of the dragoon next then work on fenris. Im trying to make the base look like a steppe or tundra or something. How does it look?
Austin Wright
You are supposed to do the eyes first, before you do the face.
Logan Hughes
Has anyone tried this scheme on vehicles? I'm wondering whether glazes work well on flat surfaces.
Jaxson Long
Oh man, why do people do this to their models. I bought a chaos army off a guy quitting whfb when AoS came out and it was in hideous shape.
Some of the chaos warriors were primed black, painted red, primed white, painted blue etc. Some had been literally painted with liquid greenstuff (pic related).
But the general of the army, whoa nelly, there was a paintjob that would have made Duncan throw minis.
Jason White
Heres the chaos lord on foot... I do not know how you can pour this much paint on a single mini, but it had been primed, first white, then black, then painted almost completely green, then primed black, painted completely red, partially primed again and then had the gold, bone and other colours haphazardly slapped on top in thick globs.
It took me about two weeks worth of soap baths, nail polish remover and furious brushing to get this army cleaned up. But hey, at least it was cheap af.
Eli Morales
I've got this thing, if you want it.
Jeremiah Allen
i fucked around with all those shitty glittery GW standard golds for ages and never found anything i liked, then i got that expensive high-pigment one they brought out for AoS- Retributor armour. it's a base coat, and one layer gives me a nice gold. pic related, the hook done with retributor.
Evan Russell
What's that thing called when you have the model in sub-assemblies on pins so you can paint before finishing gluing it together? BoP is my first box of minis
Charles Morgan
Really looks way too blue to me, Alpha Legion need those sexy green tones in the highlights.
Julian Davis
how bout this one?
John Lee
This is the method I used for the ones I posted further up. I think it turned out quite well.
Robert Moore
What thing do you mean?
A piece of wood with some bluetack on it so you can stick your parts on for painting?
Landon Bell
I like their new painting guide from the BoP guide. That result looks way better than the metallic Forgeworld style. On the other hand i think MK 3 armor looks like shit for AL. Personal preference i guess.
Thomas Anderson
I guess it's a good thing warmachine isn't known for well painted miniatures. Yours will fit right in with the unpainted or primed shit looking models.
Cooper Ross
I'm not the guy you replied to but you could at least try to be constructive with your criticism instead of just saying 'i dont like it'
Andrew Foster
Wow! Cool, thanks for the constructive criticism and input. Because of you I will be able to improve in the future.
KYS
Asher Stewart
Another user here. I think they look good, but the light doesn't help.
Jaxon Long
Okay, so you go buy some plasticard from a hobby shop. Anyplace that sells models or train stuff. They usually have a rack of different shapes and thicknesses, you can browse and get a sense of what you need. I would advise getting a pack of plain sheets with multiple thicknesses, and a pack of assorted tubes/rods. They should be less than $5 each.
Generally you can cut plasticard like paper or cardboard. You'll want an x-acto type knife and a metal straightedge. The same glue for your minis will work with the card. You can pretty much just start cutting and playing with different shapes.
A couple tricks...
Orky rivets. Take one of those slender rods, and use your craft knife to cut tiny discs off the end. Press the blade down with your fingertip to keep the bits from flying off into space when they cut. To glue them on, I put a drop or so of superglue on a scrap of paper. Then pick up a "rivet" by poking it lightly with the tip of the x-acto knife, and dab it lightly on the bead of glue. Then just poke it into place.
Hydraulic piston gubbins are easy to make by nesting a pice of rod inside a larger tube.
Robert Hall
Thanks for the tips dude. Have you tried bending it? Do you need to heat it up before it is capable of bending, or bending it is out of question?
Alexander Diaz
I know, I need to make a lightbox. Ive been putting off starting (these are some of my first dudes) but today I finally got started. Ill see if I cant take a better picture.
Luis Rivera
Right, I'm trying to do this tissue paper cape thing I got linked yesterday and I thought it'd work but the superglue/tissue is not adhering to the packing tape. I'm clumsy, so I went through 2 tissues just trying to position it, so I'm not going to risk supergluing a bunch tissue on my models while I attempt this.
Why isn't it sticking? Why does it stick for everyone but me?
Landon Wright
It has some bend to it. Thin sheets will bend like paper. Rods and tubes have to be heated to bend. Just a second or two with a lighter will soften it enough to bend under its own weight. Insulated electical wire is often easier to use for creating tiny hoses or conduits.
Jordan Miller
Am I a bad painter WIP? I feel like this could be way better considering some of the stuff I've seen on here.
Luis Campbell
Alright, last question: is it harder to paint then official GW models?
Justin Hill
Alan Davies confirmed as swarm lord
Christopher Campbell
well no, not to paint, but standard plasticard is lacking in all the detail that a GW model has, so if you want it to actually look like something you're going to have to carve the scratches, chain links, bolts etc that you'd expect to see on a model equivalent
Jonathan King
Genestealer Cult coming through!
First stages of weathering on the Goliath.
Hunter Carter
Fair enough. Does not seem that hard with orks in theory, just add chips and rivets everywhere)
Thanks for answering my questions.
Owen Stewart
Its pretty sloppy, but if you are just starting that is to be expected. Take your time and use thin layers so that it is easier to fix mistakes as you go.
Carson Barnes
the hard part is in being creative enough. i ended up scrapping my attempts at doing up my orks
Andrew White
Tyranids are organic in every aspect smooth skin and carpace with lots of natural patterns and shapes (very few straight lines). Orks are very material using lots of metal and "man" made materials. Lots of straight edges and contrast. Tyranid bits look better as trophies or scenery. Same deal with Eldar. They are smooth and elegant, to counter it you need to use small quantities, maybe one feature part and then make the rest propah orky. Ork conversions are the best though so don't feel disheartened, just take some perspective and keep trying.
Julian Murphy
Best part about orky conversions is that you don't need to follow any rule. You need to think like a Mek. "I'll bolt some shit on here! and then stick this pipe out of there! Fuck yeah, gubbins!
Luis Garcia
I think they are not bad, but you could take the red up a notch and highlight it with something stronger. Right now it lacks definition and seems very uniform. Up the contrast a little and these should look much better.
Like the bases btw.
Christopher Morris
>Fuck yeah, gubbins! Sounds like a proper Deathskull clan member warcry!)
Joshua Nguyen
Yeah exactly. Kinda adds to my point, you need lots of random stuff to make it crazy and all bolted together.
I'd love to make an ork kill team after I've done my necrons. Dunno how viable killakans are or if they're even legal. (Are they even called killakans anymore?)
Asher Edwards
I did basecoat in Khorn Red, highlighted in Mephistion red, and did some shading that doesn't show well in the picture in Screamer Pink. Should I use Evil Sunz Scarlet or an orange for then next highlight?
Adam Torres
They seriously need subtle orange edge highlights on the red for starters. Do that, then come back with a better picture.
Ryan Lopez
Have been trying to get the tissue cape right for the past hour. Can't do it. Didn't even get to the PVA part. The tissue won't stick to the tape with superglue. It's also too absorbent to even stick to the MODEL directly with superglue! I give up on this shit, fuck capes.
Landon Murphy
They are legal in HoR Killteam, and they should be legal in vanilla KT (11 armour on front and sides, 10 on the rear, 2 hull points, 50 pts).
Orks are amazing because almost anything can work for their models and vehicles. I was working with wall plugs yesterday, then I thought to myself "hm, if you cut them and stick some gubbinz on them they'd look like powercells for orky energy weapons/generators". I've seen someone here making orky artillery from garden hose parts.
Juan Morgan
It's not terrible, it just need another 900 steps to get there. What's with the hair though, did you drybrush it?
Nicholas Reyes
The claws are actually made out of metals though, and the carapace armor they have is also made out of reinforced bone. Some of the books describe marines disassembling nids, I think in the horus rising trilogy Lucius the Eternal even uses a claw as an improvised weapon.
Kevin Richardson
You're making me want to spend money! Post wallplug conversions!
Isaac Morales
I tried to, yes. I'm kinda still just starting.
Aaron Russell
NMM its hard, first time trying this technique, wish me luck
Lincoln Wright
Yeeaaaah, I'd avoid drybrushing. The rest looks good but the hair is a mess. You can fix it with a thinned black wash and some grey glazing to create proper shadows.
Angel Cook
Well, I obviously can't post any wallplug conversions, but since user never dissapoints I'll post whacky orktillery conversions I've seen here.
Nolan Garcia
looks alright so far
Hudson Campbell
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Noah Adams
Very cool indeed.
Blake Mitchell
To clarify, hair *and* beard, or just hair? And how do you thin a shade, water right into the pot?
Camden Rodriguez
Both.
Use a palette, mix some water into your wash and go over most of it, maybe leave a little bit of the bright grey unwashed where you want the highlights to go.