>30k TACTICA & TIPS What to include in a HH list, how to format it, what makes each legion special (crunch), tactics, Tutorials for Heresy-era minis and more pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLp
nth for if you don't like someone playing their 40k space marines in 30k you're a bigoted asshole and should check your resin privilege
David Harris
Friendly reminder that if you ever spend so much as a dime on FW, you are literally ruining 30k for everyone.
Brody Diaz
Jesus christ anons. All problems here stem from the fact that you guys cannot ever tolerate the existence of an opinion different to yours
Jacob Carter
First 4 epic Horus!
Jacob Brooks
Here's one for y'all. Ignoring Russ (because he's too obvious) what pet might each primarch have kept?
Noah Jackson
>8 seconds apart
I love you guys
Welcome to the Internet new friend
Carter Sanders
Off to a shit start lads,
Onto a different topic does anyone use Cadere Weapons at all I honestly think just stock chainaxes are best for Rampagers
Tyler Sullivan
Horus and or Morty would have kept a Komodo Dragon.
Thomas Sanchez
Let's get something constructive going on.
Let's make our own profile for Magnus. I elect that he would be WS: 7 with 6's in everything except attack. LD: 10 of course.
What kind of psychic powers is he going to have?
Henry Adams
Before this devolves into shitposting:
Which Legion's special terminator elite unit is your favourite out of the ones released so far, lads?
Phoenix Terminators was what got me to start EC, so that's my choice.
Jason Hall
>The Chimera chassis didn't exist back in M31. It had to come from somewhere. It couldn't have been simply invented. Kek.
Luke Lopez
Painjob could be somewhat better, but considering the small scale and difficulty sculpting that shit, I gotta say I'm quite impressed.
Nolan Stewart
So(H), Horus the Lupercal, brother to wolves and Primarch of the Luna Wolves, found way earlier than Russ, would have a Komodo dragon as a pet? Whatever complies your boat
Easton Barnes
Phoenix Terminator's models are so god damn sexy, but their rules give me erectile dysfunction.
Aiden Richardson
Firedrakes. Firedrakes forever.
The giant chainaxe once in a great while. Nothing else. Which is a shame because thematically I love the concept of a meteor hammer with a thunder-hammer style power field.
Julian Ross
ebin
Asher Fisher
Wait a meant only Morty. But the whole reptilian eye Horus loves to spam could be be a hint of something he likes.
Camden Sullivan
I like Firedrakes but I was already playing salamanders in 40k before 30k even came about so I'm biased. Phoenix Terminators make me want to play EC
Oliver Evans
Well it is epic....
William Long
>thematically I love the concept of a meteor hammer with a thunder-hammer style power field. Mathematically you'd love it too >With Surlak boosting them, a squad of 9 w/ meteor hammers & hatred will ~statistically~ kill 12 MEQ or 6 TEQ on the charge, before the enemy even gets to swing. Make of that what you will, but don't look at Palantine blades because you will get jealous
Jackson Nguyen
That's the face I'd do if my arms sprung from my scalp rather than from my shoulders
Asher Roberts
My >Nigga Salamanders for life.
Alexander Edwards
Reapers of men. And I'd love to be inside a termie suit ripping stuff apart like Butchers do, or ne a walking arsenal like Tyrants, Fulmentarii and Grave Wardens are. ...but in truth power daggers and Twin-linked bolters give me Slaaneshi thoughts >Retrieved footage from a Headhunter's headhunting headcamera youtube.com/watch?v=sVxWoS0T4jI
Nathan Stewart
So if Red Butchers are tied up when they get on the ship does that mean some poor serf has to had feed them?
Landon Russell
Chaos man.
Jason Rogers
Or maybe it's intravenous
Isaiah Myers
What is wrong with those scythes ? Looks like they are erect or something
Brayden Jenkins
Oh user, all problems here stem from the fact that other people dare to have different opinions.
Samuel Myers
Rule-wise: firedrakes.
Model-wise: probably gorgon terminators.
Jaxson Clark
>"Here comes the Thunderhawk, open wide" >"RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH" >"Good boy Angron will be pleased"
Carter Cruz
Nothing is wrong with those Scyther, user. And yes, I am erect.
Landon Brooks
Techmarines probably force tubes down their throats.
Jason Miller
>people dare to have different opinions We should enact Compliance, brother :^)
Michael Scott
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Jaxon Turner
10/10 post.
Cameron Evans
Those look more like Glaives to me.
Ethan Foster
>>have 30 terminators >only have 1 Spartan >want to use all of them in the same army
Help
Aiden Price
Horus - a regular dog, used to be the Emperor's. Lorgar - a ram, for sacrifices. Ferrus - used to have an 80% cybernetic rhino. Then it blindly charged something and got its horn chopped off. Dorn - don't know, maybe an elephant? Or maybe a goat. Sanguius - a leopard, pretty sure I've seen him associated with them (in skin form at least) Or a hawk. Alpharius - a snake, possibly a few snakes, no-one is sure. Fulgrim - white tiger with a diamond collar. Lion'el - actually not a lion, they give him flashbacks to the forest; he has a pet Watcher instead. Or a cat. Perturabo - an automata in the shape of whatever animal he wants this week. Goes through them pretty quickly. Magnus - a crow. Or perhaps an owl - looks smart, but is actually pretty dumb for a bird. Angron - a lion or fighting bear. Mortarion - komodo dragon, or something else that's toxic as fuck. Guilliman - an eagle maybe? Something regal and associated with Rome, anyway. Corvus corax - common raven. Khan - some equine variant big enough for a primarch, or a hunting bird. Vulkan - a salamander, clearly. Curze - do I need to say this one? Yes, bats, duh.
Noah Reyes
mfw
Ayden Bennett
Play night lords, teleport them in.
Grayson Kelly
Deep strike 20 of them or buy two more Spartans.
Sebastian Long
Grave Wardens
Joseph Collins
>perhaps an owl - looks smart, but is actually pretty dumb for a bird. >Owls are the most infamous killers in the bird world. Most of them are nocturnal with puffy heads and eyes like windows upon which are thrown shadows of nightmare. They like to confess to their killings, to the point of bragging. Owls dispatch their victims mostly through bludgeoning, and sometimes by strangulation. They're found of a bit of scalping from time to time, though mostly for fun. A woman was killed by an owl for the crime of having clashing patterns on her outdoor furniture. A case from 1971 of ow-on-human necrophila remains in dispute.
>In stark contrast to the brutality of their crimes, owls are frequently described as educated and charming, though "smelly". In the darkness before dawn they can occasionally be seen running in gangs with escaped circus clowns and Goth kids out past curfew. Their mating is an almost indescribable, difficult experience to observe, with the participants sometimes dying of pleasure. A barn owl (Tyta alba) once successfully impersonated a mailman for several months in St. Charles, Illinois. If you see an owl, or suspect someone may be an owl, play dead immediately, and play it like you're whoring for an Emmy. 134 species in the world; 18 in North America
Hudson Parker
Orbital assault I guess?
Would infiltrating/outflanking terminators be shit?
Jonathan Taylor
So I want to do Night Lords for 30k With the BaC Box I was planning on doing
Terror Assault at 1500 points
HQ: 290 Praetor :170 2+4++, Paragon Blade Digital Lasers
Or maybe a blue-ringed octopus. It's even Bare Ceramiteā¢ coloured :^)
Camden Morris
I actually like to imagine Perturabo having a guinea pig that he talks to a lot when nobody is looking, as it is the only living creature he trusts.
>You won't believe what Fulgrim did today Fluffems. Don't call him that, I still have to work with him for now. Yes ofcourse I don't trust him, you don't have to tell me Fulgrim cannot be trusted.
Jaxson Adams
Would love the models, if it wasn't for the fucking funnels on top.
Thomas Young
My Fireborn brother of Nocturnean Descent.
Jackson Morales
I'd imagine him having something like this instead.
Nathaniel Jackson
the resemblance is uncanny..
Carson Foster
Now my headcanon. Perturabo and Fluffems.
The giant maze around Perturabo's mobile sanctum is actually for Fluffems to run around in.
Asher Peterson
How else are you meant to have a Death Cloud?
Liam Wilson
I have more of a feeling those would be too small for Morty. Maybe something to throw or poison a hive's water supply with but not as a pet. Unless he views them as his children.
Grayson Wright
It all makes sense now....
Pert achieved daemon princedom and spent the next 10,000 years perfecting the perfect cat house for his only friend...
Grayson Harris
It has those vents on the chest, doesn't it? It could just have a grill on top to expel gasses. Or have vents on the back.
Cameron Lee
The Iron Cage was only a prototype..
John Gutierrez
Terror squads with bolters seem a waste. I get you're working off BaC, but what I'd do is leave the bolters off "for painting" (you should be doing that anyway after all) and try out a few games proxying them with bolters and volkite. You can always put the bolters on later if you want.
Also, do the terminators have the teleport gubbins? If not, they should.
Xavier Hernandez
I plan on ordering Gorgons and Justaerin soon for each if my armies. They both just cool
Eli Evans
Nigga, his cat became the maze. That's how Chaos works. Or maybe it became a Minotaur like thing and Pert got lost in a maze he built too well.
Camden Morales
I have 3 boxes of Calth -1 box of cataphracts 1 burning of prospero box.
I want to do thousand sons, and I want infantry slogging and focus more on defensive aspect.
What purchases will be good?
I'm thinking of getting a Sicaran, apothecaries and a Deredeo so I have some general and air defense, but nothing really set beyond that.
Lucas Mitchell
I have enough spare boltpistols /chainswords to convert the Tactical Squads.
The Terminators do not have the gubbins, I'm unfamiliar with what they do are they worth the points for just one squad?
Jack Lee
they're war-scythes you pleb
scythes with horizontal blades would make awful weapons
Angel Wright
The Iron Cage was Fluffems' idea. Pert didn't care, but Fluffems hates the color yellow.
Caleb Gonzalez
I'm really looking forward to building a Death Guard legion, I'm just going through the Red Book and some old forum posts trying to get a grip on what I want - I really want to utilise their Terminators because they're fluffy and awesome but I have a couple of practical worries (I've been out of the game since 5th so bear with me a little bit)
I'm looking to make a 2000 point force to start and then expanding outward, but am I fucking myself over at the start by wanting Death Shrould + HQ and Grave Wardens in Land Raiders? Is that too big a sink at that point level?
I also want to do big 20 man blobs covered by artillery because that seems fluffy as fuck too for DG, but am I just wasting points on something that's going to get flattened early on without doing much?
Sorry if I'm asking dumbass questions, I'm just not that practiced!
Logan Davis
Paints and time.
Ethan Cooper
Generally, terminators spending several turns walking up the board just die like expensive bitches. Night lords can give their terminators deep strike for 15 points for the squad, which will help with this. If you're not sticking them in a transport vehicle, I'd strongly recommend teleporting them in.
Gabriel Campbell
Fluffems is secretly a Green Lantern?
Easton Flores
Or can I even footslog DG Terminators?!
Zachary Lewis
No. He's absorbed most of Pert's hate for Dorn though.
Ian Parker
It's somewhat doable - they're slow, but if you pick one of their Rites all infantry in open ground can have a big chemical cloud concealing them (5+ cover save as long as no-one is within 12"), they're generally tough, mass teleport from Orbital Assualt is a valid and fluffy choice (the DG are the legion most able to spam terminators), and there's a character that gives 3 units infiltrate.
Nathan Jackson
So I just finished reading Horus Rising for the first time, does anybody have any cool art of the Interex?
Aaron Adams
No such thing exists thankfully.
Julian Walker
Is mass infiltrating terminators a dumb gimmick
More importantly is it fun dumb or dumb dumb
Logan Green
>thankfully Whoops. Didn't mean to do that. But no Internex art exist anyway for some reason.
Blake Ross
But that's all they are - cataphractii with trumpets on top.
You'll want some mobile elements so you can actually get to objectives or to far-away targets (plus a few tanks to keep enemy anti-tank weapons busy), but Death Guard are better at footslogging than most legions.
At 2000 points I'd be surprised if you could fit Deathshrouds AND Grave Wardens AND transports for both, in addition to some infantry blobs and artillery to hold the line. But 2000 points is small for HH. At 2500 and 3000 you should be fine.
Michael Thompson
If you have enough footsloggers someone will eventually get to far-away objectives.
Angel Johnson
Sounds like fun dumb to me but I love terminators and infiltrate allows you to take more terminators instead of wasting points in transports.
Luis Lee
>even if your dudes retreat they will eventually get to the objective having circled the planet in the other direction Fucking Mortarion, man.
Ethan Cooper
>Death Guard >retreating
choose one
Kayden Myers
Just ram a Battlebarge into it, that will secure it.
Liam Moore
>tfw someone parks a Hive city right in front of your Battle Barge
Easton Edwards
>Tfw your thinly veiled bait post totally derailed the last thread
Owen Johnson
Hold off until Inferno for anything beyond basic stuff, since we still have no idea what theyre going to get
Itll take you that long to paint all those troops anyway
Ryan Robinson
Autists are vulnerable to bait, the pope is catholic, the bearversor is angry, yes.
Ethan Young
But why? For what purpose could you do it? Is your life so pathetic you have to ruin threads to gain joy?
Lincoln Miller
Dumb phone poster
Ryan Sanchez
Thanks user
Anyone else got advice for a budding Death Guard player? I'm going all in for the resin crack
Josiah James
Or Alpha Legion heavy cruisers for that matter
Ethan Foster
Says the dumb frog poster.
Nolan Kelly
Daily reminder that if your army does not contain 33% resin atleast, you are a fake, a hack, a cheapskate and most likely unemployed.
>Hei guiez, who here knows if you can use 40k rules in SpaceMarinesLegionFight: Horus VS Imperor edition?? >what's your fave mark of armour, at first mine was MK7, not becuase my 7 year old, 4th time stripped space marine army all comes out of a tactical squad box, but becuase the hersy mks actually SUCK. >Actually, now this betrayal at calth tm boxgame has come out, I really like MKIV, and even though the legion I picked never really used it archetypally, my guiez do and its better. >No, wait, I now really like mkIII, and my whole army is gonna have it. >I didn't even like contempors which were in cool poses anyway.
And finally, my favorite. >forgeworld looks bad anyway, GW products are nicer, resin is lame.
Poorfags. Pretenders. Wannabe powergamers. Do it properly.
Luke Stewart
>33% resin atleast, you are a fake, a hack, a cheapskate and most likely unemployed. is that by point level or by model count
Jayden Howard
While I agree with you that FW rules, you aren't convincing anyone sounding like a literal shill.
James Allen
>tfw I started most of my mkiv bolter-weilding blobs with FW resin before BoP came out
Thank god I'm allowed to join the ranks of intelligent, patrician individuals.