How could undead be useful in modern warfare?

How could undead be useful in modern warfare?

Other urls found in this thread:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Soldier_(1992_film)
youtube.com/watch?v=BOmNzVGJBlg
twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

Depends on the initiative they have.

Gather them up and throw them at every problem until the enemy runs out of ammunition.

Geneva Conventions don't apply to them. That alone is huge asset for modern "politically correct" warfare.

Cannon fodder, and point defense.
As long as they can pull triggers they can operate machine guns, mortars and other squad operated weapons.

>no need for sleep
>No hunger
>No thirst
>Elements don't phase them
>Don't get tired
>Possibly slow reaction times and slow speed over all
>Possible body and joint decay
>Immune to radiation, biologicals, and chemicals
>Cause fear and confusion
>Cannot win hearts and minds

We can make this work. We sure as shit can make this work.

Well, assuming that the undead retain at least some of their intelligence and skills, then very. It would mean that you don't have to retrain new troops, just raise old ones from the dead and send them back into service. It would mean that you could send troops (usually the undead corps) on deadlier, more suicidal missions because they're already dead and you can just raise them back again if they do die.

That technology, or magic, would change the dynamic of the whole world though. That shit wouldn't stay in the military. The private health sector would be flooded with rich elderly would be ensuring that they could get raised back after they die. Deadlier jobs, like mining, would be revolutionised by a wave of fearless workers who might well be guaranteed to be raised back in their contract (like a really good healthcare plan).

Now, if we're talking about the shambling, braindead undead, then not very useful. They'd basically be canon fodder and probably extremely easy to destroy with modern weaponry. Most modern militaries emphasise speed and precision, completely opposite to that kind of undead. It'd probably only see use in guerilla warfare in dense terrain, more for the fear factor than anything else.

Assuming their upkeep in magic points per day isn't too high...
Assuming the necromancer won't go batshit in the important moment...

How to control them? Jack radio in their heads? Use their unwavering patriotism?

Both

>What is Universal Soldier?
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Soldier_(1992_film)

They would make decent vehicle crewmen as long as they are supervised by at least one human. A tank could be opperated by one human commander and three zombies that just follow his orders. Alternativly you could use them in 'swarms' with a group of zombies in light vehicles with a single human in a command vehicle coordinating them. Think pic related but a dozen of them escorting a main battle tank.

For some reason all I can envision is a possible United States-esque government doing their best to let you know that our rotting, mindless protectors are acting in our best interest.

>Parades of zombies through streets to show that they're safe
>All of them have to be muzzled and not so much marched as herded through the city streets.
>Civilians are fucking horrified

Depends on multiple factors. First of all, the term "undead" is kind of a catch-all that could range from mindless zombies to vampires. Next, you need to see how intelligent, fast and resilient they are to harm. For example, a Romero zombie's only real tactical use is as a bullet sponge because it's slow, dumb and would probably not be able to tell friend from foe - and even that bullet sponge angle is not great because everyone knows to aim for the head. Maybe a bioweapon or the undead equivalent of a dirty bomb.

they could be used as snipers that can remain unmoved in the worst possible conditions forever, if their reaction time is bad you just put a bunch of them everywhere

"suicide" bombers

distractions for the enemy, "human" shields

if they are zombies that spread a virus and shit you obv. throw them at the enemy lol, turn them into chemical weapons

also set them on fire and moving towards the enemy and what not, demoralization tactics

...

>make mindless undead
>fill chest cavities with C4
>set loose on enemy area
>???
>profit

...Servitors?

>some_sort_of_nazi_zombie_war_machine.jpg

>Raise an army of skeletons
>Give them shit tier soviet mass produced equipment
>Bury them in strategic points
>Have them wait until enemy troops move over them
>Suddenly skeletons everywhere shooting from every direction

Really, they'd be easy pickings for even some sand negro with a ten year old peice of slavshit. You'd need a fair amount of them to overrun enemy positions, and even when everyone's dead, it'll be your guys having to deal with them if they want to gain ground. I think they'd only be useful in a total war situation against unarmed civilians, and if you live in a country that' so sophisticated that it can weaponize zombies you'd probably kick up a media shitstorm letting them loose. This is, of course assuming they're mindless undead that can't be trained.

Biggest things working for (and arguably against) undead are the absence of morale and logistical needs.

>Morale
Since undead don't feel, obviously makes them a formidable force. Usually in warfare a battle is won when the enemy is routed, when their morale breaks and they run. Rarely a battle is won when one side completely kills every soldier on the other side. Undead don't have that problem obviously, so your enemy won't win until every one of your ghouls are shot down.

The downside could possibly be is for every community you've conquered, they have the psychological trauma of seeing death weaponized. OF course, if you have no desire to rule the living, and just want to wreak havoc and consume the world, that doesn't matter.

>Logistics
Zombies don't need to eat. Well, not in the conventional means. This is good in that you hardly need to worry about supply trains or any of that shit. Don't need to worry about uniforms either, and I'm assuming they're too stupid to make use of any ammunition.

This is bad because the only supplies they DO need is the flesh of the living. This means your army needs to be fighting constantly. No carnage = no food. Depending on the amount of control you exert over these things, it either means they wither away and die, or they turn on themselves and ultimately you. Also leading a war of constant carnage means you probably won't be ruling over any wealthy empires, instead probably just ruling over ruins.


Using the undead i warfare is really only reserved for the most bitter, resentful of people

That is assuming they actually need to eat, and the eating of flesh not just being something they just do.

Keep em locked in underground containers and release em when the enemy is near. Surprise attack!

>How could undead be useful in modern warfare?
By keeping it going long after everyone has got bored with the main campaigns.

I imagine they would be useful as an expendable scouting tool. Do you wonder if a building contains an enemy? Send in a skellington: if there is shouting and shooting there is an enemy there. Sure it is not that difficult for the enemy to dispatch, but doing so will reveal their position and the thing is utterly expendable. Sort of like a magic robot.

>>Immune to radiation, biologicals, and chemicals
enemy's face when a squad of undead strapped with all kinds of radioactive or otherwise hazardous stuff strapped on them. In a setting with cheap,numerous and unable to bear arms undeads i could actually see this a feasible

You could go the Umbrella approach and create them as organic weapons.

they Feel No Pain, you could use em to soak up some gunfire

>enemy's face when a squad of undead strapped with all kinds of radioactive or otherwise hazardous stuff strapped on them. In a setting with cheap,numerous and unable to bear arms undeads i could actually see this a feasible
That would a terrible idea, actually.

Let opponent get some land, spawn undead behind them, sandwich them between your forces and zombies.

If it's infection undead, toss them into any city. Military is forced to dispatch the issue and that's when you hit them hard.

Depends how they act? Regardless of zombies warfare has moved away from national clashes and clearly defined frontlines, you either have proxy guerillas or use drones both of which are generally against the idea of total war.

If zombies are nothing but ravenous animals then you just got yourself your own disposable terrorist cell, cant talk, only kills and has no nationality due to being fucking dead. Expect controlled epidemics around the globe, no one gets blamed and all the right people benefit.

Assuming they're the usual shamblers who can be pointed and will slowly advance and attack, they'd be useful for assaulting any point that the enemy has to hold against a dedicated ground assault.

The degree of political correctness a military has is entirely dependent upon the military in question, and in fact most of what folks think of as "modern" militaries do not even fight each other most days due to the practical and political cost of engagements.

...

Depending on how infectious they are, you might use them as suicide bombers in civilian centres, yeah. Spread the virus because the zombie isn't "YOUR soldier" so much as "THEIR problem"

Depends on what kind of undead you're talking about.

Romero Zombies would barely be an asset after the initial shock and fear wears off.

Fantasy Undead with super powerful zombies, constructs, etc like the Vampire Count and Tomb Kings armies from WHFB would be king makers.

Cyberzombies like the Husks from Mass Effect would similarly be king makers.

>wanting to ever be trapped in a close space with undead of any kind

I don't give a crap if they have lobotomizers that ensure they would not perceive me as an enemy, no amount of convincing would make me get in that tank.

Like some sort of. . . skeleton minefield.

you just rebuild the tank so the commander is completely closed off from the undead, who in turn are sealed inside the vehicle at the start of deployment

Is that a Call of Duty reference?

> Unwavering patriotism.

Now I want a series about an undead ex-soldier that loved America so much that he got back up to reign terror on the terrorists.

As has been pointed out multiple times you need to define your terms.

Can an undead for example drive a truck along a preplanned route? Unload a shipping container and sort cargo by shipping label? Endlessly ride a stationary bike to power a generator?

Combat is one thing, but wars are won by logistics. That is where your undead can make a real contribution

I think there was vidya with Soviet soldiers rising from the dead to fight one more day for GLORIOUS MOTHERLAND, COMRADE.
No idea what the name is, sadly.

What if they have human-like intelligence,and simply see you as their tank commander/friend?

watch this anime and youll pretty much have a good idea of how zombies can be used efficiently

my favorite was their use as "suicide bombers" because the explosives can be planted straight inside them

I've just started watching this an yeah I gotta say it's pretty interesting.

Ackshually, the elements would be incredibly potent on them. Undead would lack the internal processes to mantain homeostasis, and would be unable to recover from injuries.

Salvation War has parts where soldiers that recently died in the invasion of hell rejoin their units hours later

>he doesn't want to take the Wiesel to the beach

Die, monster, you don't belong in this world.

Depends how capable they are.
If they can do more than shamble and bite, then they're incredibly useful.
Especially the mass-produced non-sapient versions sent out on suicide missions.

If we could animate these kind of "undead" then everything would be great. Only problem is the need for bodies without head trauma.

>Similar preception as when human
>can aim and fire decently
>only die from brain damage
>slow, loud, but persistant

infinite energy.

Vampires and liches are undead too.

Or if you have zombies that only die when their brains are destroyed, but NOT when decapitated, you could theoretically use zombie heads the same way, just scatter em around, still biting.

So what? They're too haughty to lower themselves to the level of a meager foot soldier.

Yeah but they're arrogant douchebags that nobody* likes. We'll feed them to the zombies, or in the lich's case, that dogs.

* nobody who matters anyway

So perfect officer material?

Reminds me of this

youtube.com/watch?v=BOmNzVGJBlg

£United States is embroiled in wars with France, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan, Syria, Venezuela, Canada, and Alaska.
>With more wars than there are soldiers to fight them, The US governmenthas developed a virus to re-animate dead Marines and send them back into battle.

Wraith army, my dudes.

immune to physical damage, kills with a touch.

Good luck, terrurists.