You've avoided all the mary-sue tendencies that plagued the draft I commented on, you've given the character a clear reason to *want* to go on the adventure, and added some much-needed flaws.
I guess the only glaring comment is: How does the Mesmerist piece fit into her backstory? The Vox is a crazy flavorful archetype, but it doesn't look you're doing much to develop it.
Plus, on a more selfish note, another character from the LotLK adds some fun connections for Corwin.
Xavier Foster
>Ricktor is way more interesting than your character >better than your xhatater even after the nerfing >literally chosen by the gods to make Ameiko happy
Is this real suffering?
Xavier Hall
Reposting so we can abandon a dead thread.
The fluff I'm using for Vox is that she sings the songs her mother taught her. They're celestial, and thus magical, and even though she doesn't speak it, (Scion of Humanity), it's still able to produce disorienting and debilitating effects.
Caleb Lopez
No.
Just because you can't tap that sweet Imperial booty doesn't mean you're suffering, it just means you can hook up with Shalelu or a PC or Kelda Oxgutter or a dozen other cuties in the campaign.
Seriously dude, a character like Shizuka or Onryou is 5x better as a romantic interest than Ameiko.
Logan Jones
Honestly sounds pretty sue-ish. Like cliche anime kinda sue-ish. And a bit of an ass-pull to boot. I detest "ordained by fate" sort of stuff.
Luis Gonzalez
>Is this real suffering?
The only solution is
murder the parts of yourself that are holding you back. Become someone who's happiness isn't dependent on other people. You can do it! I believe in you!
Noah Ortiz
>tfw you've slaved away only to make a shitty character and backstory >people throw this shit down in hours when it takes you days. Truly, this is the darkest night.
Luis Cruz
>Yes!
God dammit you asshole don't fucking play hard to get like this you little SHIT.
Lucas Martin
Someone has to be pulling the strings behind him being an oracle. Tsukiyo makes as much sense as anyone.
Also it really depends if he actually puts that in his back story. At the moment it's a really huge stretch. He was asking in the last thread for advice on ideas for who should be pulling the strings.
James Smith
Fine! Fine! I'm Captain Slow.
Hunter Green
>better than Ameiko >not thinking he'll steal away other waifus too
Christopher Cruz
This is your next campaign setting
How fucked is your PC?
Lucas Russell
Fair enough, I guess it seems like that's more Bardic than Vox-ish. Although, my idea of a Vox is based heavily around The Sound of My Voice, so perception is definitely skewed.
Carson Russell
He won't, and while I can't confirm that with anything objective I can guarantee the DM will come down from on high to smite any non-consensual NTR.
Grayson Russell
Plus DHB keeps saying he doesn't want to NTR. Hell that's the reason he created a PC devoted to one character rather than choose one later.
He'll probably just up his relationship with everyone else and not do romantic things with them.
Jason Bailey
>He'll probably just up his relationship with everyone else and not do romantic things with them.
This, entering a Romantic relationship is a completely different roll and not something you "accidentally" enter just by being super duper close.
Ayden Robinson
Alright, our LFG is active.
Mentioned it a few days ago.
Sunday game.
GM has since dropped the NPC classes, though we're still starting at 1 with limited gold and a 10pb.
The real problem is that bard just didn't work out. Even if I didn't go for the Rubato it was still eating standards just to not be a commoner.
Knight Disciple || Bard didn't work, Sacred Servant || Rubato didn't work, Bushi || Bard didn't work, Knight Disciple || Vox didn't work, but I'm actually pretty satisfied with Bushi || Vox. I'm going to ask the GM for some refluffing to make it stand out.
Owen Bell
>tfw you made your character for the ameiko route >no way he can even hope to compete with that I don't even know why I care either.
David Sanders
NTrOracle is just too damn persuasive.
Ian King
>Implying you'll get into the same group as NToRacle >Implying NToRacle is getting in >Implying one of the Kaijitsu sisters won't be in the party as well
Why go for boring ole Ami when you can aim for some prime PC butt? I can guarantee everyone here has a top-shelf booty!
Caleb Watson
This looks fun, but what are the other 3 players?
Nolan Hill
>The real problem is that bard just didn't work out.
I guess? From the basic numbers I ran while trying to put together an optimization gradient for the thread earlier today, it looked like the Sacred Servant || Rubato was near the top of both the damage and defenses.
Anyway, on the Mesmerist front, I assume you're mostly using for the Tricks and Painful stare. If that's what you want, you should check out the Vexing Daredevil. It's a martial-focused Mesmerist archetype.
Elijah Evans
>singing samurai Why did I not see it before? Are you flat as a sword too?
Asher Diaz
Tell me /pfg/, is there any way to get sneak attacks just by having concealment against an opponent? Or to feint without completely fucking my action economy? Pondering a gestalt with Dusk Knight paladin on one side and something with SA on the other. Would be nice to reliably add SA somehow since the knight replaces smite damage with concealment for the duration of the smite.
She kills tanks and bogeymen with her bare hands almost immediately.
The tank took three rounds, but she still soloed it taking minimal damage.
Moral of the story? Don't scare the daughter of an iron hag who is an unchained monk.
Jonathan Taylor
What do you give NToRacle's chances?
Aaron Clark
Like DHB, I ain't particularly interested in ERPing with other people.
I'm not even interested in the romance per se, I'm just curious about how shit could develop. It just kinda started as a desire for a solid long term connection/stake in the plot.
Jose Wright
Honestly? It's more a factor of "what characters fit a good party theme" than "what characters are actually well-written enough to get in."
And for that, I'd give NToRacle a high chance of getting in - not very high, due to the edginess of the optimization, but his backstory's tight and connection to the lore works in pleasing ways.
Gabriel Price
Are you the DM or just speculating?
Connor Torres
I wasn't feeling that way. From a tier standpoint perhaps, and maybe I just suck at optimization, but it didn't feel very powerful. I'll check out Vexing Daredevil, thanks.
Basically.
Liam Gray
Jesus, those rules look fucking awful.
Henry Edwards
Plus he has cool themes good NPCs to draw from. The only people he really doesn't work with is other people trying to romance Ameiko.
And I think the optimization is fine since he toned it down for the third time. Throw that optimization through the floor! If we're all shit none of us are.
Austin Cooper
>What happens when your character takes off all the limiters?
Paladins become Demigods battling devils in their home turf
Clerics ascend to Godhood alongside their deity.
Wizards throttle the universe as they should
Barbarians and Rangers hunt down Tarrasques for food
Fighters and monks? lol
James Long
In light of the OP question, will you become jelly?
Lincoln Lee
How does the spectrum look for skills?
Julian Roberts
>Are you the DM or just speculating?
I'm just a humble prospector panning for gold! There's nuggets in these hills, I know it!
Alexander Young
>For this reason I implore you to be like Gandalf. Tolkien didn’t want Gandalf to overshadow the fellowship, and consequently made him use his wealth of knowledge to help the party instead.
...that is not the point of Gandalf at all. He wasn't anything resembling a D&D spellcaster, he was an angel pretending to be mortal. He also lightning bolted the shit out of goblins attacking him in The Hobbit.
>My point is that you should focus more on supporting the party with buff, debuff, and utility spells.
Things Gandalf never did save for some VERY minor utility.
Chase Morris
Well, if you wanted to make Summoners and Druids monstrously OP in comparison to everyone else...
Hunter Hughes
I don't know the reference you're making, sorry.
Josiah Gonzalez
Just druids, he banned summoners for being 'too hard to deal with'.
Also? banned unchained classes across the board. Poor rogue.
Eli Mitchell
>What happens when your character takes off all the limiters?
Like all PsyArms, they all end up with one fate once they reach epic level, because I have yet to see anyone play a PsyArm differently.
pic related
Camden Sanders
>wants to be singan' fightan' sword >hasn't seen symphogear The ride hasn't even begun.
Brayden Martinez
>what characters fit a good party theme
Well then Einstein, which characters *fit* a good party theme? What characters do you want to see go through a character arc that takes them from humble beginnings to the gates of Kasai?
Levi Green
Why would you play an NPC class? I'm confused.
Jacob Davis
Is there an equivalent of this on Golarion?
Christian Campbell
>tfw you decided to "become a hero of justice" [Swords internally]
Jordan Thomas
If no summoner, then Hunter or Spiritualist could fit pretty closely.
Thomas Lopez
Hunter only, since Druids are still there.
Spiritualist got b& too.
Mason Rogers
Man, that's bullshit.
Yeah, go for the hunter, man. Besides, it's one of the best balanced classes in the entire system.
Evan Bailey
>Look over pair app for yandere servant and vitalist
Huh this is a lootttt more edgy in summary.
Too edgy? The idea was to just be a cool devoted ninja-like servant girl with obsessive tendencies, and then building from that there's the chance that her love is dangerous not because there's a chance of her going psycho and killing everyone, but because of a 'too much of a good thing' deal.
I guess the problem is that most of her edge is in her backstory and that's what the character summary focuses on, I could move that to a pastebin and talk more about her current self in the post.
Samuel Bennett
That Lizardfolk is one of the most beautiful goddamn things I've ever seen.
Justin Sanchez
>he hasn't watched symphogays
watch it, user. watch it before s4 airs soon.
Bentley Nelson
As the other half of that paired app, in my defense, there's only so non-edgy you can make a Vitalist (Life Leech, Sadist)|Malefex gestalt character, but maybe that's a fair point; the idea for my character is that he's hit bottom, and while he's poised to just keep going down, he could just as easily be brought back up to the light (and sobriety).
Bentley White
>yuri Not really selling it to me user, and my "To Watch" list is a bit full at the moment.
Lucas Harris
Missed new thread like a dumbass, so might as well repost
>with an inextricable connection to the Kaijitsus Not... Not exactly? The assumption would be that he was working for them for many, many years learning the trade under multiple aliases, with his latest one sticking around for almost a decade by the time of the game itself. It's interesting, but it'd require some hefty tweaking to work in.
It was actually vaguely implied that he was a native to the region surrounding Sandpoint. One potential reason for the "how" that got tossed around was that the sword left behind by that random group of adventurers that first saved him is what actually "woke him up". On account of it being an intelligent "Black Blade". Of course, could say the sword was from Minkai, but selling an Estoc as being from an Asian country might be hard. I now realize that there's very real possibility that the Kaijitsu family might end up paranoid over employees "being that damn fox, again", on account of how I implied he got discovered a few times.
Jose Rodriguez
Eh, I got drunk and passed out before getting that far.
Carson Allen
>20gp starting I can't even buy weapons and armor with this shit.
John Mitchell
Hey, I'm trying to make a character for this, but all this stuff is really confusing to me. I decided to play a halfling ranger, but this character sheet is really complicated and I'm not sure what I need to fill out. Could anyone help me out?
Michael Perez
Spiders are known for their booty.
Elijah Morales
I bet spider's booty is the talk of the town!
Chase Rodriguez
>I have yet to see anyone play a PsyArm differently.
ahem.
Christopher Brown
SAD Full Caster is the only choice.
Gavin Scott
Its an anime about hotblooded mecha musume mahou shoujos going musical path of war against eldritch horrors.
Also, the songs are awesome.
Zachary Murphy
Considering she's a vigilante and will possibly have Renown? Potentially.
I mean, >roadtrip AP, but oh well. We'll see how it goes.
I mean she's not exactly subtle about being a spider in any case. Also 16 charisma.
Jayden Moore
Why are you posting worst 2hu?
Dominic Clark
...
Henry Hill
Is it just me, or is Shizuka the most boring of the sisters?
Thomas Russell
Awoo's are cute!
Nathaniel James
Just you, because Akane exists.
Michael Williams
Wait hold up, are we talking about a girl with a spider lower half, or a spider upper half?
Because if it's the former, damn. If the latter, DAMN!
Carson Morris
>Sakuya >PsyArm >Not Hidden Blade UC Rogue with Innocuous Servant
Elijah Howard
Let's talk about murder!
What are the feats or class (3pp allowed) I want to take if I want to be a sneaky-freaky assassin type asshole that snaps necks or slits throats just because he can, without alerting his buddy around the bend?
Wyatt Jones
How are people's applications/characters for RotJR going? I'm like 70% done the first draft and after that I'll likely get Veeky Forums's feedback.I got distracted today by making a Aasimar Tactician today but I'll likely get it finished after I do my online shopping tomorrow. If anyone's interested, I have a greentext style summery like DHB used for feedback that's done.
Tyler Scott
Wizard
William Gonzalez
The game isnt even taking applications until Janurary why are you all in such a rush?
Luke Thomas
The Serial Killer Vigilante
Nolan Ortiz
Because it's fun? And some people can't pop out a 10/10 application that fast.
Andrew Rogers
Everyone else talking about their characters makes others want to join in on the fun.
Andrew Foster
She has six arms, two legs, and a spiderface.
Brayden Miller
I just want to make sure I can get a well curated character together by then. The competition is pretty stiff and I'm gonna have to find something special I can offer to have a chance at getting in.
Robert Long
Working on rewriting my fluff stuff, to make it flow better. Got a good alternative that I decided to work off of instead of my original, thanks to a cool guy's look at the whole thing.
Dylan Edwards
Come, user. Where is your motivation?
Isaac Davis
>implying any application is even 3/10 They're literally all dog shit
Brayden Thompson
Shanoa from the castlevania games is a pretty decent soulknife/psy-arm.
Julian Sanchez
Wasn't the waiting room also made so they could discuss their characters without flooding the thread for the next month or so.
Evan Adams
I'm garbage! I finished my first draft a few days ago, but it immediately got overshadowed by more/better quality apps, on top of the NTR thing. I'm going through the character personality and motivations right now as my second stage draft.
All the more reason to try and improve it now. Have a qt to improve your mood!
Adrian Jackson
What would make a good application to you then user? You can't just make wild claims like that and fail to elaborate on your points.
Henry Perez
Elaborate if you're such an expert then, then famalam. Discuss how to actually make an amazing application, or provide something for the fags to work with.
Adam Mitchell
Damn, we fell for it
Nolan Lewis
Still not an argument.
Levi Bailey
But what is even interesting about Shizuka? She seems so... mundane, and normal.
Nathaniel Anderson
Maybe we're desperate for someone to actually give us a topic so we don't just fall back on circling around the same thing. It's fun to see characters get made and be discussed, but we do need something else to talk about so the character discussion can slide to where it actually belongs.
Lincoln Lewis
Nigga, I wasI'm just saying we fell for bait. I too would like to know what to do to improve my shit-tier app.