If a HQ joins a squad of Troops. Is the unit role Troops, HQ or both for the purposes of Deathwatch Missions Tactics and other rules that rely on battlefield role?
Carter Wright
>tfw will never paint this good
Christian Peterson
Hey, those rules aren't terrible, they're just not as good as the others, but still not as bad as Rubrics.
Gabriel Richardson
>2nd for Chaos players must stop whining. FTFY
Xavier Brown
Only if you say you can't
Benjamin Torres
Painting is a meme, I just use bases to represent all my riptides.
James Butler
Thanks to the user who posted the Primarch Quiz in the last thread, I have decided I'm starting an Alpha Legion force now.
At some point when I have the money to start a third army, that is.
Zachary Rodriguez
I should know better than to cling to hope, yet I do.
Jaxson Ortiz
Yes you can
The old saying practice makes perfect really works Try getting some better brushes if you feel what you have is too difficult to work with Every paint brand works and thins differently, maybe your chosen brand just isn't for you
Key is to keep trying and have fun with it
Easton Reed
Are there any negatives to making an unbound army? Cause from what I can tell, not really.
Sebastian Baker
>other players can stop whining about Magnus
Evan Myers
lot of people dont want to play againt 6 riptides
Hudson Anderson
Not getting a bunch of sweet detachment bonuses, for one.
Jayden Nelson
Xth for players can stop whining about Big Red
Christopher King
Same bro, why even glue all this shit? I just tape paper to my bases with their names written on to tell folks what I am fielding. All I am here for is to have my guys stand on one end of the table and shoot shit from afar. Moving stuff is stupid.
Matthew Young
>Trips So it is decreed, so it shall be.
Angel Perez
Both.
Kevin Carter
Lol no.
No one even plays TS here and we've agreed no one will be allowed to field him here. Debating if we should ban death guard too based on the leaks. this is above and beyond chapter tactics, chaos should never be allowed something flat out superior to everything loyalists have.
Gabriel King
Does the black legion detachment giving a a guaranteed turn 1 deep strike make Abandon more viable?
John Miller
Losing Detachment bonuses is a huge deal. Obsec wins Maelstrom games.
Camden Gray
Bringing 6 riptides unbound would be a massive downgrade from 2 riptide wings.
Jack Baker
Anybody have an image of an iron hands terminator librarian? Wanna get some ideas for one I wanna make for deathwatch.
Jayden Cooper
Neat.
Tyler Thompson
You guys joke, but people actually do these things.
I saw a guy on here complain about having to use lots of terrain because it gets in the way of shooting.
Eli Nelson
You can deploy Magnus if you have a fully painted and based thousand sons army.
Wyatt Ortiz
>Literally chaos cant have nice things the post
Jonathan Morales
And if the opponent also has a Primarch or Daemon Primarch.
So looks like you might be waiting for a bit unless it's a mirror match.
Sebastian Martinez
Probably
Ethan Perry
Honestly, I don't even care if I lose horrifically to full Gorgonzola if someone's army is beautifully crafted and painted.
Parker Howard
>basing I just leave my bases black. Why make a fucking grassy base and then put it on a fucking red earth mat or vice versa? Black is nice and neutral.
Kayden Ortiz
Back when Tau were released, me and my friends played and my friend picked up Tau. He was the one who understood the game better so he would talk about the missions to us and what not. We'd play with no terrain and a huge gap between our starting lines. I thought Tau were the most OP thing in the world. We'd just get shredded before going anywhere. Later I realized we were idiots and he just liked winning.
Jayden Gutierrez
I would agree to those terms as long as it goes both ways.
Oliver Lee
>Eldar >That small
Come on, Eldar are like 7ft! The Sister's head should be at the Eldar's breasts!
Isaac Nelson
They aren't.
Camden Ward
There's no whining as long as no one is bringing him to games.
Charles Myers
I have a Tzeentch DP leading Khorne Possessed in my WB list.
No wonder they're so mad.
Matthew Gonzalez
Terrain is bullshit though. They are a bias against my army that's all about not moving and shooting stuff from far away. I once played a match against another Tau player and since that day I vowed never to play against another one ever again. It's boring shooting at someone far away while he shoots at you from far away and no one moves.
Brody Sanchez
>Possessed
I feel bad for you user
Alexander Davis
Any news on sisters of battle in the recent months? Other than "Use their 6E rules + this random errata."
Lincoln Myers
You shouldn't, I love my Possessed.
William Murphy
Playing against shooty armies that sit back are boring no matter what. The best games are a mix of close combat and far shooting and lots of moving around the battlefield.
Noah Roberts
>Two Riptide Wings One Riptide wing can bring up to 9 tides.
Angel Howard
dec 10th, imperial agents codex has sisters rules
Hudson Williams
They're getting mashed into a book with other miscellaneous Imperial forces that will be coming soon.
Lucas Martin
They rape face in the DP formation if they get stuck in. Just gotta saturate with targets to pull fire off of them. Nurgle Black Mace DP, Bikerstar and a couple of rhinos tends to work for me.
Daniel Cruz
so what was the end result of the changeling releasing all of the fallen in front of ragnar, stern, and a hereticus inquistor?
Wyatt Clark
A single unit of them, anyway.
Noah Price
How does it fare in competitive games?
Charles Lewis
just Magnus and a few sorcerers and you good to go.
Lucas Gonzalez
I was the one who posted that and I still think that.
Honestly, all it does is get in the way. Think about this, I got an Ork player chasing my tau, I just shoot him and jump behind something and he can't get to me because of difficult terrain. It's so stupid.
Asher Stewart
>Tau not even once
James Watson
But why would I want to go in combat when I have such fun destroying everything by turn 2 by shooting them from far away and never moving? I did lose one match however when someone managed to successfully charge me and killed my fire warriors. I quit the game then and their and called the player a cheater as he should not be able to survive my shooting him from far away while I perfectly did not move a single round. The guy that runs these games then told me to calm down and I was making a scene, I told the dumb fuck that this match only proves how Tau are underpowered and are in need of some major buffs. Was kicked out from the shop after so I went home and watched some more FMA while not moving.
Adam Ross
You might be the single most retarded person I've ever seen post in these threads.
Evan Parker
Better than nothing! I'll take it. Finally get to field my sisters without explaining that my 'rule book' is actually two white dwarf issues and some internet errata. My neckbreard can only get so fluffy before the police get called....
David Thomas
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Tyler Davis
I like this post.
Ryder Rivera
I mean most of the imperial forces aren't painted either.
Jackson Rogers
I can't believe you had to jack it up to this level to get these idiots to understand the joke.
Logan Stewart
I don't understand these armies.
Is this a 2v2?
Nicholas Green
On the other side of the argument. My Dark Eldar NEED a lot of terrain to use as cover while I move up the board because out in the open, my T-shirt saves aren't worth jack shit.
Hudson Peterson
Does that mean it will have new Inquisition rules too?
Benjamin Morris
It will have Inquisition rules. Whether they are new or not?
Angel Cruz
I sure fucking hope so.
Michael Gonzalez
It's not our fault that there are people almost as ridiculous as him walking around and breathing. Satire is hard to pull off when ridiculous manchildren exist. I've laughed at someone thinking they were messing with me only to find out they were serious and rage quit.
Jayden Murphy
The hardest part about 'Eavy Metal paintjobs is how they get their washed surfaces to look that good. That armor is basically blue with a black wash, according to their official tutorials. But there's no way black wash over blue armor looks THAT good.
The highlighting is just 2 or 3 stage edge highlights which just take practice, a steady hand, and a sharp brush. Trying to paint 'Eavy Metal examples always ends up looking more like Duncan's works and not what they show in their photos.
Elijah Walker
I also have a friend I am trying to get to play 40k. He too also has a passion for shooting stuff from far away and never moving. I told him Tau are perfect for this but when I told him he had to deploy his models he was turned off by the whole idea saying that was too much movement for him.
Cooper Richardson
Yep.
Full list:
1. SoB Battle Squad 2. Sisters of Silence 3. Custodes 4. Inquisition 5. Stormtroopers (probably, only one we don't know about) 6. Wyrdvane Psykers 7. GK Termies 8. Assassins 9. Deathwatch Kill Team
Seems like it's an Inquisition and Friends book.
Adrian Walker
Sounds great. As long as they don't change the Karamazov rules where he can orbital strike his own allies even in combat, I won't have any issues.
Colton Baker
My meta's not hugely competative. Other armies I play against are (really shittily played) SpaceOdin Ork footsloggers, GSC + Tyranids, leaning more to GSC now, and Dark Angels that mixes all three wings together.
I run my possessed as 3 squads, all mark of khrone, sometimes with a Gift of Mutation on the champs. (I play WB so feel like it's super fluffy for me to spam GoM)
Aaron Ortiz
This feeling is terrible. My FLGS doesn't have a ton of terrain to go around and it means that you end up with 4-5 pieces tops per game board. It's gonna suck a whole lot less when I buy some more raiders however, I'm hyped for when I get to take 4+ or 3+ cover with my units everywhere they go.
Lucas Howard
>he just realized how infuriatingly stupid the vast majority of Veeky Forums is
Welcome to my world. Don't ever try to articulate your contempt with even an iota of passion though, otherwise it's all "sperg more" and "stay mad autist", coming from mouthbreathers who spell "should've" as "should of".
Asher Walker
You shouldn't have been using that for a long fucking time dude, the 6th ed digidex replaces that jazz.
Andrew Rivera
I AM HERE FELLOW LEVIATHAN OWNER
Isaac Bailey
That's because Heavy Metal uses a ton of really thin layers (i.e. mixed with medium) on even the flat panels. The tutorials don't match the actual process they use. They're a "close enough" match designed for consumers.
Charles Hughes
Can Grey Knights take a Leviathan without allies? I'd love to get one of the big guys.
Elijah Hill
RULES OF TERRAIN FOR GOOD 40k GAMES:
It should cover almost half the battlefield. Meaning, if you take all the terrain on the table, and push it all to one side lined up edge to edge from the edge of the table so it's all touching, it should cover about 40% of the square footage of that table.
At least half of that (so 20% of the square footage of the table) should be line of sight blocking, meaning it should be tall enough that you can put any size model behind it, even a gargantuan, and it is completely blocked from view.
More verticality is better than less, so models can get high ground for better fields of view to counteract enemy units hiding in low terrain.
When in doubt, too much terrain is better than too little.
Finally, if you ever start adding terrain to a table and the other player complains it's too much, and you still haven't even hit the 40% mark, that player is a FUCKING FAGGOT and you should probably just not bother playing their likely grey tide of parking lot shooty shit.
Colton Garcia
Yeah one 'Eavy Metal painter said in an interview that his ogre firebelly paintjob basically used dozens of glazes and all their layering is actually feathering.
Aiden Morgan
Don't tell people this, the less they use cover the better I can shoot them from far away and not have to move.
James Kelly
GK can't use Leviathans. They were left out of the list of armies that can take them.
Carson Scott
Yes it is. I can't find the one of my 3000 point match against fully unpainted Tau. Now that was FUN
Jonathan Murphy
What is feathering?
Michael Rogers
Doesn't surprise me...Thanks, user.
I just wanted to have a cool dreadnought...
Isaiah Robinson
>SoB Battle Squad >Deathwatch Kill Team >GK Termies So it's not a replacement dex at all then. Just "rules for allies". Either SoB are being semi-squatted or the rumors of a stand alone book in Jan-Feb are true.
Brody Edwards
Unfortunately not, but Id ask your group and see if theyd allow it. Theyre a really fun model to play and paint. Im tempted to pick up a second one!
Ethan Robinson
>mfw the only thing I do all game long is shuffle side to side behind LoS blocking terrain to force gunline players to reposition
Yeah, I never said it was a replacement codex, others did.
This is a much better Inquisition Codex, not a new SoB replacement.
Camden Reed
When you thin your color down a lot until its a transparent glaze, then paint that on dozens of times to get a very smooth gradient transition. I think a lot of people just call it glazing or layering, but some guys made up the special term feathering for it.
Lincoln Brown
Yeah, that's just glazing, I know what that is.
This is like those twats who use mouthfeel instead of texture.
Joshua Perry
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Nolan Gomez
You think the guy who painted this started out that good? You are fucking insane if you believe this. Even if you have very limited artistic talent, you can achieve that quality of work with practice.
Evan Ross
One faggot tried to argue with me saying that "should of" is valid because it's a colloquialism. Of course he didn't use the exact word "colloquialism" because he was A FUCKING RETARD.
Eli Foster
>mouthfeel
Maybe it's a Labrador Retriever behind the keyboard.
Josiah Ramirez
It's not though, it's just people misunderstanding Should've.
Wow, I hate people like you. Such fucking scrubs. Whenever I play against people like you I first try to explain to them to play fair and allow me to shoot at them from far away as I do not feel like moving. Had a guy tell me that he was "Just playing smart and to my weakness." Never had I been so pissed off. I told him the Tau have no weakness and he was just trying to break the game. I reported him for cheating to our event organizer.