Due to general lack of interest can I request the Broken Shackles test play be removed?
Cameron Morgan
Does anyone have a link to the Villains Codex or Strange Aeons 3?
Liam Foster
Please don't conjure naked flames near valuable tomes.
Juan Reyes
i got two
i play literally the lewdest paladin ever conceived and a pretty much asexual kuthite
which one do you wanna hear about?
Benjamin Reed
Wait, you're going to whine at argument bait rather than animu fluffy tail? Holy shit, we're improving.
Carson Young
I feel like this has been answered before, but can a Magus who already has an Arcane Bond from their archetype but doesn't have the Bladebound text banning Familiars take the Familiar Arcana?
Eli Taylor
>If you ban Emergency Force Sphere and Sacred Geometry, are wizards balanced with tier 3s and initiators from levels 1-8? I actually have a ban list of spells I keep, spells I consider to powerful and warp the game.
This is a mix of spells I ban completely, such as long range teleportation, and spells that I change, like invisibility.
Invisibility is one I always point to as an example of a spell that severely impairs another character's roll. In its case I reduce it in several ways. The bonus to stealth is not +20/40, instead +10/20. As well as changing them to semi-translucent and passed perception checks making you not flat-footed against them.
While +10 is still strong it does not shore up the gap between those who have invested and those who have not at anything but low levels.
At level 3 a rogue can be expected to have +12-16 in stealth, thus still outclassing an invisible wizard who will have +10-12.
Long range teleportation I put in a group of "Campaign Warping" spells, some others include Contact Other Plane, Commune, and Blood Money. Long range teleportation invalidates travel to a large degree.
So on a whole? I reduce down the spell list.
Though that's only how I run it with people I don't normally GM for. For my buddies? I just say "fuck it what ever" a good deal of the time.
Nathan Ross
>TELL ME ABOUT YOUR CHARACTER PEE EFF GEE I am actually soon going to commission a big group portrait of PCs from a 3 year long campaign that went from level 5 to 17 and is now approaching the last legs of the adventure.
I also considered including important NPCs, but things would get really expensive.
Right now the PC list looks like this: Locust, Croc, Andromeda, Krik'nak, Ardovan, Rovas, Esma, June, Dr. Dolor. Ralph, Exard, Bookreader, 00Dwarf, Talon, Melkezident, John
Sebastian Morris
you can usually only have 1 arcane bond
ask your DM
Thomas Howard
With only Paizo materials (no 3PP), what's the most broken lvl 5 character I can make?
Logan Diaz
as the person who almost joined with gunslinger then disappeared it turned out the class didn't look that much fun to play at low levels, or at least, not fun enough to be worth putting up with shitty 1pp gun rules without even any advanced firearms
Zachary Flores
why are you even asking this kind of question
Xavier Gonzalez
I'm rolling a Cleric of Desunyaa so my Iron God players aren't completely fucked in the magic department.
I can understand that. It can be disheartening to play a martial when you're using to PoW.
Easton Howard
So, in the last thread I asked about character backstories and then said I'd post what I wrote if interested. Some one was, so now you must be subject to my mediocre writing:
>Born in a small town just outside of a larger city, Owallyn had some difficulty getting along with his peers. His father(Gerard) was a mortician and his mother(Tilda) a midwife(they joked how she saw people in, he saw people out). The father had been studying medicine in the city of Arkham before leaving the school in haste due to his association with a fellow student, Herbert of the West(accused of necromancy). He ended up in the small town of Ply, where he met his wife and Owallyn's mother. The mother had lived all her life in Ply and followed in the same steps as her mother, and her grandmother, and so on. In addition to his mortuary service, Gerard acted as a coroner for the town guard and would drag Owallyn along sometimes, in hope the boy would pursue a similar field.
>Instead, Owallyn frequented the forest just outside of Ply, and became acquainted with an old druid named Liet. The latter saw that the former had somewhat of a knack for nature and took him under his wing, after discussing the matter with his parents. Liet instructed Owallyn in various disciplines common to druids, as well as teaching him both Elven and Sylvan(his father, and academic himself, was pleased with this). The pupil progressed quickly, aiding his teacher in the studies of the natural world and the intelligent races place in it. Both Liet and his parents pressed upon Liet a pragmatic outlook, and the boy was practical as possible. The druid repeatedly reinforced a simple edict that Owallyn lives to to this day: "In the quest of understanding and preserving life, the most important life to preserve is one's own."
Aaron Phillips
Wizard, use your 1 3rd level spell slot to cast Fly. Fly directly up until the spell ends and you will have become the most broken character as you hit the ground.
Liam Flores
How do I make this work?
Parker King
>7.2 MB .png What fucking for?!
Christopher Sanchez
Whip and constant supervision?
Ryan Jones
>At the age of 20, Owallyn made a bond with his first animal companion. A leopard named Kelsilumni. This relationship however, was short-lived. Shortly after setting out(Liet imparting on him the importance of a druid to see the world), both Owallyn and Kelsilumni were betrayed by a fellow traveller they met on the road, and the leopard was killed defending Owallyn. He managed to escape, but ultimately blamed himself and was quite a bit more suspicious of strangers and their motives.
>After some years, Owallyn semi-settled down in forest near a small village and found a new animal companion. Initially treated with distrust, he managed to gain a certain amount of respect from the villagers because of his knowledge of the forest. Eventually, they also sought his aid in treating their livestock(and their own sick, in extremis) and he managed to persuade them to change some of their habits when it came to hunting(to go after only larger, older animals such as deer with at least 4 point antlers or very large doe).
>>Characteristics: >Mostly pragmatic and practical, rather direct. >Would prefer to study and continue his notes on the natural world than interact with most people. >Has a great amount of disdain for wilfull ignorance. Simple villagers have some excuses to not know better, but not people of education and means.
>Quirks: >Will sometimes try and study things/take notes at inopportune times. >Dislikes wearing footwear, often going barefoot when possible. Moccasins or something similar when it's not.
David Rivera
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Evan Bailey
Leopard Catfolk[/Spoiler] Primal Disciple with two axes. He's loyal, polite and friendly on the one hand, but vindictive and has a hard time forgiving people who wronged him.
He and a childhood friend were in an adventuring party when they were younger, but were wiped by an ambush. After that childhood friend turned to alcholism and being a douchebag so they broke up their friendship. Now the childhood friend turned up as one of the main villains' commanders and my char is eager to see why.
Robert Ross
A big boast, comrade. Proof must be presented if your claim of absolute lewdness is to be believed.
Cooper Ortiz
Whelp, formatting. It's case-sensitive I presume?
Evan Mitchell
Just use ctrl-s and it puts in spoiler tags for you.
Clover USED to have a button to do it, but fucked if I know where it's gone to in the newer version.
Landon Morgan
Thanks based user.
Gabriel Murphy
Earlier, my 5th-level wizard spent 5 days of downtime working as a civic spellcaster and a sage during the day, as a barmaid in a high-end inn by night, and scribing spells the rest of the time.
They earned 400 gp and a Ring of Protection +1 for the first job, and 99 gp for the second job.
Did they make a good living?
Carter Myers
She's very temperamental tiefling who is constantly getting harassed by another party member, and she never makes good decisions despite being the smartest person in the group. Her accomplishments so far include: Disarming volatile explosive devices while high as a kite, spending nearly a full minute getting tasered by a will-o-wisp before her ally could kill it, and declaring to a priestess that her god was fake and gay and that she was gonna murder it to prove her point.
Iron gods is fun.
Physically, she's got some vestigial wings that'll be turning into real ones, a fluffy prehensile tail and something that probably won't come up during a real session.
Sebastian Wood
It's a dick isn't it?
Samuel Foster
90% of female tieflings have one.
100% of female tieflings with dragon bits have 2!
Carter Myers
She was born with a penis due to some sort of divine prank from a deity (she insists it's work of Arshea but there's also acute evidence that she might've gotten accidental wafts of Lamashtu airs.) Because of that, parents assume the baby's bad news and immediately hand her over towards the Iomedaen church in hopes of redemption.
Due to the nature of the church she works mostly with other women all whilst harboring this odd curse, which constantly pangs for attention and gives her an incredibly increased libido. Rumors come up of her alluring girls whom come to church and laying with them spread. Because of this she's forced to promise chastity towards her master for paladin's training, at least whilst she remains in the city's walls.
Paladin training goes as planned after that, only at graduation day, still worried of her potential rapacious nature, has her armor's crotchplate engraved with a devil's face. To warn others and remind her to stay vigilant of her urges.
Unfortunately this doesn't really work, and within the first days of the campaign she's already slept with a bandit, is harboring a slime for self-relief and seeks to mate with the kobold tribe they've just encountered.
At least her party's somewhat free of her influence though.
Camden Long
Drow noble Psychic searcher lore oracle/ Insinuator antipaladin gestalt who has started to graft lots of metal into his body wolverine style to justify switching over to automatic gear progression through upgrades. Has a penchant for being nerdier than fuck and having very overdramatic emotional outbursts. Also has a pet hellhound.
Nicholas Edwards
>been playing character for months now
and if it is?
Jason Nguyen
implying half the party isn't trying to get on that +2 holy avenger
Ethan Stewart
>tfw you'll never be able to have lewd characters because of your group
Matthew Phillips
I'm going to assume it's the ones with the spade tails.
They're even more shifty than normal Tieflings.
Kevin Williams
Some interesting statistics...
Hell's Vengeance: paizo.com/pathfinder/adventurePath/hellsVengeance Part 1: 3.5 (based on 8 ratings) Part 2: 3 (based on 1 rating) Part 3: 1.5 (based on 2 ratings) Part 4: 5 (based on 2 ratings) Part 5: 4 (based on 1 rating) Part 6: 3.5 (based on 4 ratings) Average: 3.4166
Jade Regent: paizo.com/pathfinder/adventurePath/jadeRegent Part 1: 4 (based on 14 ratings) Part 2: 3 (based on 10 ratings) Part 3: 3 (based on 9 ratings) Part 4: 2.5 (based on 7 ratings) Part 5: 4 (based on 4 ratings) Part 6: 4 (based on 4 ratings) Average: 3.4166
Hell's Rebels: paizo.com/pathfinder/adventurePath/hellsRebels Part 1: 4.5 (based on 6 ratings) Part 2: 5 (based on 5 ratings) Part 3: 5 (based on 5 ratings) Part 4: 5 (based on 5 ratings) Part 5: 5 (based on 2 ratings) Part 6: 5 (based on 2 ratings) Average: 4.9166
Iron Gods: paizo.com/pathfinder/adventurePath/ironGods Part 1: 5 (based on 20 ratings) Part 2: 4.5 (based on 10 ratings) Part 3: 4 (based on 7 ratings) Part 4: 4.5 (based on 7 ratings) Part 5: 4.5 (based on 5 ratings) Part 6: 4.5 (based on 3 ratings) Average: 4.5
Reign of Winter: paizo.com/pathfinder/adventurePath/reignOfWinter Part 1: 4 (based on 17 ratings) Part 2: 4.5 (based on 10 ratings) Part 3: 4 (based on 7 ratings) Part 4: 5 (based on 5 ratings) Part 5: 5 (based on 16 ratings) Part 6: 4 (based on 6 ratings) Average: 4.4166
How does it feel to know that Jade Regent and Hell's Vengeance are actually two of the worst-rated APs, while Hell's Rebels is the #1 most well-received AP?
Is it because /pfg/ is always contrarian and dismissed Hell's Rebels because of "lol SJW" and "lol Bazzy pervert" memery, despite it being a very well-written AP?
Is it because /pfg/ fell in love with the idea of playing evil edgelords without realizing that the Hell's Vengeance was badly written?
Is it because /pfg/ wanted to waifu Ameiko and Shalelu so badly that they overlooked that Jade Regent was poorly written?
Dylan Campbell
And what do we assume about ones with vestigial leathery wings, thick but spined tails with prehensile capabilities, and scales on their skin?
Logan Gomez
Those sample sizes are far too small to make any conclusions from. Hell's Vengeance there has so few ratings that I could go and inflate them all myself.
Sebastian Stewart
The Paizo rating are lies, they actively prune and delete ratings.
Connor Kelly
You are just devoted to starting shit.
Brayden Carter
Or maybe it's because they delete critical points of view and ban people with differing opinions.
And maybe, just maybe, you're a moron.
Elijah Rivera
All of their unseemlies are on view so I don't think there's anything else to worry about.
Lincoln Taylor
Well, do you want the serious answer or the joke answer? Because I only have the joke one.
>Is it because /pfg/ is always contrarian and dismissed Hell's Rebels because of "lol SJW" and "lol Bazzy pervert" memery, despite it being a very well-written AP? No, because paizo actively doctors their rating. This is a documented thing.
>despite it being a very well-written AP? It really isn't. Iron Gods is much better.
Jonathan Stewart
But user, there's a cloaca there.
Jonathan Gonzalez
So, I have actually played 15 of the 18 Paizo APs all the way through.
I could give my opinions on them and see what you all think.
Jaxon Ross
please do share
Oliver Collins
please do, but don't spoil them if you please I've only played like one of them to completion
David Lee
If Paizo wanted to doctor their ratings, they would have done the same for Jade Regent and Hell's Vengeance.
Checkmate.
Isaiah Mitchell
The reason is they want to push certain APs more than others.
Brandon Turner
but they want you to feel bad for playing hell's vengeance as a bunch of LE evil tyrants (the best alignment) instead of being a plucky CG rebel (which is the best alignment according to paizo)
Henry Ortiz
Those aren't anything to be worried about though. They're not threatening.
Hunter Lewis
Best idea of my gaming career was bringing a norse berserker into a game about shady political intrigue and communism. Grimdark was forced aside in favor of devil-slaying, the big bad empire the GM had expected us to become essentially ended up as the United States of Norse-Russia.
Aiden Mitchell
This. JJ has said that LG is ultimately 'less good' than CG.
Joseph Cox
The logic doesn't hold up. Jade Regent has the same bad reviews as Hell's Vengeance, and Jade Regent is ACTUALLY about playing CG plucky rebels who lead a rebellion against LE oni, while waifuing JJ's old PC.
And yet Jade Regent got the same poor reviews as Hell's Vengeance.
You're just in denial.
Christian Perez
Well going from the discussion a few threads back, would you rather have a Precious cinnamon bun? Or greasy fast food?
That's the difference between Neutral Good and the evil alignments.
That's completely asinine, and certainly not borne out in play from what I've seen. If anything CG types are inherently less good than LG and NG types because people take chaotic as a pass to be a selfish dick at times.
Cameron Ramirez
JJ has straight up said he hates LG and thinks people who play LG characters are actively hurting the experience of other players
Can someone please find the posts from the "Ask JJ" thread about why he dislikes Paladins and refuses to add a Paladin of Freedom?
Lincoln Morales
Jade Regent is old, user. paizo doesn't want its new content to compete with the old
Aiden Lopez
Why kobolds of all things?
Andrew Richardson
Because JR has a salvageable concept that a good GM can put to use, while the best HR can do is "Council of Thieves but with actual stakes" or "Curse of the Crimson Throne without cool bits"
Andrew Cruz
Now you're really reaching.
Jose Miller
theyre adorable and shes like a local hero to their tribe right now.
Blake Williams
>has literally twice as many reviews as the later campaign >has a bunch of shitty subsystems (caravans, romance) that are probably objectively bad >requires lots of work from the GM and buy-in from the players >It's "Weebshit: The Campaign" to many people, which brings it down
Of fucking course Jade Regent is going to have middling reviews from paizofags or people reviewing the product as-is. Hell, without modification, most APs are pretty shitty.
Cameron Lee
>while the best HR can do is "Council of Thieves but with actual stakes" or "Curse of the Crimson Throne without cool bits" What makes these less salvageable?
Lucas Cooper
making a boss npc and need to know if you keep the age score effects if someone who was Old became a Worm that Walks
Cameron Wright
So we're clear that Jade Regent is bad even by AP standards.
Elijah Murphy
Only for the mental stats.
Colton Collins
But user, it's hiding two penises AND two vaginas!
Mason Morgan
APs I have played: >Rise of the Runelords >Curse of the Crimson Throne >Second Darkness >Council of Thieves >Kingmaker >Carrion Crown >Jade Regent >Skull and Shackles >Shattered Star >Reign of Winter >Wrath of the Righteous >Iron Gods >Giant Slayer >Hell's Revels >Hell's Vengeance
I played them nearly in order so it's been a long time since I played some, but if I had to rate my top 5 in terms of story it'd be:
>Iron Gods >Curse of the Crimson Throne >Reign of Winter >Carrion Crown >Council of Thieves
And the 5 worst written: >Giant Slayer >Skull & Shackles >King Maker >Shattered Star >Hell's Revels
Jade Regent's problem is it does not take place majority of Avistan, or better way to say it is Avistan is not the focus.
Really what I have to say is the doctoring is a documented thing. I'm not saying we have proof of them doctoring these particular things, but Paizo is known to doctor ratings (several 3pp have come out saying they do).
Another thing is the ratings don't actually mean much when it comes to the writing. It may be loved. It's still bad. Ratings often do not indicate quality.
Have you played Hell's Revels?
Wyatt Perry
Imagine!
Christian Carter
What are some good Tiefling concepts that won't just get written off as fapbait?
Jaxon Hill
so he would gain the lost physical scores and keep the mental score?
Benjamin Nguyen
No!
Those that actually roleplay how their kind of tieflings look, like actual spooky demons with granite like skin that probably looked like Harlequin baby at birth.
Anthony Richardson
Wrong. Look at Giantslayer, which was relatively recent.
Giantslayer: paizo.com/pathfinder/adventurePath/giantslayer Part 1: 4 (based on 6 ratings) Part 2: 3.5 (based on 3 ratings) Part 3: 4 (based on 1 rating) Part 4: 3 (based on 1 rating) Part 5: 2 (based on 2 ratings) Part 6: 3 (based on 1 rating) Average: 3.25
Hudson Ross
Giant Slayer, as far as i'm aware, is literally just an old Gygax module ported from AD&D, so it makes sense that's it's kinda poorly written.
Kudos to the man that spawned the genre, but while he did some neat encounter design his storytelling was shit and he was way too focused on lethal over fun.
Additionally, all the best ones in this list clearly lack big extra subsystems, just expansion on what's already present. That says things. Iron gods might be argued for bringing in tech items, but you can actually play that AP without using them.
Connor Gonzalez
>misspelled hell's rebels three times anyway, what would you say are the strengths of the top 5 and the weaknesses of the bottom 5?
Brandon Ramirez
I am unsure why we are taking Paizo's rating as word of god on the quality of the product.
Really I have to say is I have no clue if they doctored these particular ratings, merely that Paizo doctors ratings (we have testimony to this from several sources).
Even if they are entirely unaltered being higher rated does not make them good.
Giantslayer I understand as being poorly rated because it's a AD&D adventure brought to pathfinder. It had a lot working against it.
Also stop fucking avatarfagging.
Nolan Wright
I think JR gets a lot of niche hate and low reviews because of the base premise - PCs have to escort the Princess/McGuffin, and a lot of players bitch at the world not revolving around them. Granted, there are plenty of ways to fix it, but many GMs won't. Heck, I could probably put at least half a point up on JR's part 2 by having Koya and not Ameiko be kidnapped. Nothing like having the Chosen One be a NPC and need rescuing.
Hell's Vengeance I did not follow closely, but I know a lot of people thought some scenarios were completely BS. The paladin lying out his ass and other absurdities in Part 3 stank up in the Paizo forums well enough.
That said, I think Hell's Rebels, Iron Gods and Reign of Winter are pretty decent, although I found HR's start atrocious. You do not introduce a goddamn Thrune despot in a city with a rebellious streak a mile wide with a tax on effing mint. It looked okay later on.
The Chevalier is already kinda that, isn't he?
Levi Watson
A whole TRIBE? Dear lord, that girl's got an insatiable appetite.
Ryan Williams
>misspelled hell's rebels three times Apparently my computer didn't know the word rebel? It keeps trying to correct it to revel.
Anyway I would say this: >Iron Gods A real sense of adventure and unique experience in golarion. The enemy actually feels frightening and oppressive, and you interact with a very unique setting in golarion. The story itself is one that I have to say is absolutely fantastic, especially for the entire last arc with the divinity drive.
>CotCT Well written urban adventure with an interesting cast of characters. Suffers from a few plot holes that can be fixed with little effort however.
>Reign of Winter Another sort of High Adventure game which had a very strange and entertaining second half.
>Carrion Crown Best villain
>Council of Thieves Another urban romp. People bash it because of apparent lack of stakes. I agree that that stakes aren't high, but I don't find it an issue. It's high personal stakes low wider impact, sort of the difference between Jojo Part 3 and 4.
Zachary Murphy
3+ years of being surrounded by strong beautiful women and forced to be chaste with such an affliction does that to a woman.
Ian Powell
How do I Soraka /pfg/ Agathion blooded aasimar? Half-Unicorn?
I want to drop stars on people and be a lovely heal-waifu.
Aaron Jackson
Now for weaknesses
>Kingmaker Boring region overall, the subsystem ruined it for me because it severely impaired the story. Lots of empty boring hexes.
>Giant Slayer Interesting encounter design, but boring story. You can tell this is an AD&D adventure. It's strength is in the encounter design, not story.
>Skull & Shackles No sense of urgency and direction. You have next to no reason to complete the adventure.
>Shattered Star Nothing was overly bad, just overall very weak. There was nothing here to excite me.
>Hell's Rebels TERRIBLE start, overall weak finish. I did not feel like a plucky chaotic good rebel. I felt like a populist demagogue.
Sebastian Diaz
>I felt like a populist demagogue.
thats fascist talk 'comrade'
Jonathan Roberts
Here's what's REALLY up.
Hell's Vengeance, plain and simple, is poorly-written. The antagonists are badly-written idiots (including paladins that lie, poison, and sacrifice compatriots to run away), and most of Paizo has no clue how to write fun evil characters. In addition, Book Two is practically an advertisement for the Vigilante class. Jade Regent is OLD. Like really old, and it shows when in comparison to some of the newer APs. The Caravan system is idiotic, the Relationship system is just as much, and it doesn't account for the newer options that might fit better now that there's more to the game. Hell's Rebels is Paizo's innocent little cinnamon bun. It's the AP that practically EVERYONE had a hand in writing, and that the major players of the company pushed as hard as they could. As such, most of the laymen players (the PFS people and the people who "just want to have fun") think that it's better because it's got the most appraisal by the devs, despite having bad writing and even worse NPCs, including ANOTHER JJ-bait character.
Iron Gods and Reign of Winter have good ratings because they do something EXTREMELY different from any other APs, so that makes them unique and honestly the freedom gives them more chances to be fun. Fighting robots in a spaceship and Rasputin in a techno-electric badass machine stick in your mind really hard, and it's these things that make people go "wow, that's cool", and thus review them better.
Julian Morgan
Does Paizo generally introduce new content along with new adventure paths or do they come out relatively separately?
William Jackson
How many of the other party members has she banged?
Brandon Williams
>tfw seriously considering writing an adventure path >tfw can't write one that takes place in Golarion if I want it ever to see the light of day in 3pp >tfw it will never have a wider audience otherwise
This is a very difficult decision. I think I'll just do my own setting. I planned on having it connected with The Book of Goblinoids and be relatively goblinoid centric.
Bentley Harris
I'd say mostly the fact that they're retreading old ground.
Jeremiah Brooks
none.
she's trying (and failing) to be business-like with them.
though the calistrian is pretty close.
Ethan Gonzalez
So Hell's Vengeance and Hell's Rebels are BOTH bad even by AP standards?
Kayden Garcia
Typically from what I've seen the APs tend to come out on their own schedule but often push something from a recent RPG-line book. After Ultimate Intrigue, the Vigilante came up in Hell's Vengeance while one of their recent APs was tied in to Horror Adventures mechanics.
I can't imagine it did well, Horror Adventures didn't have many good mechanics.
