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Is this the only Thousand Sons list with Thousand Sons in it worth running?

So what's the best way to field Thousand Sons so far?

>Exalted Sorcerer
It's not terrible at melee so my instinct is to give him the Astral Grimoire and have him lead the Tzaangors, keeping them fast enough to hopefully do something before they die. Might give him that awesome staff but I'm not sure. He's a solid melee and psyker but I'm worried that putting him with a fast moving melee unit means he'll never get to use his one-off shooting attack.

>Sorcerer
Most efficient psyker available to the 1K Sons if you upgrade their mastery level. Not sure where to put them, but I'm thinking either with the rubrics or scarabs. With ML3 and MoT they'll cost you 125.

>Magnus
Obviously he's the gem here, but I still feel like he's overcosted and won't shine unless you have a ton of warp charges to feed him. Pink horrors should help with that (or blues and brimstones if you're made of money).

>Ahriman
Like everything else, he's overcosted, but three doombolts is still fun.

>Rubric Marines
The Soulreaper cannon is entirely too expensive to be useful (which the same can be said of the whole unit, I guess). I'm thinking squads of nine to save points and praise Tzeentch, maybe up to two flamers and rhino as far as upgrades.

>Tzaangors
I want to love these guys but I just compare them to ork boyz and weep. I'm probably going to build mine with 2 CCW weapons but going with pistol and chainsword is viable as well. Twistbray is a good idea if they're not being led by an IC.

>Terminator Occult Scarabs
Honestly my favorite new unit, the models are great at 40 points for a terminator is a little more reasonable than 23 for power armor, until I remember the no power fists. Missile rack + flamer seems to be the no-brainer here, given that the cannon is so overcosted for only offering four S5 shots.

Obviously allying daemons is near-mandatory if you want to win, but I just want to talk about the Thousand Sons units themselves for now. Thoughts?

Basic transports are difficult to buy. No one recasts them except Z and you can find his details easily with some digging.
Sorry fella, Its a reclusive club and I buy from the best. He has a limited range of products and they are almost indistinguishable from GW stuff. If you want a guy who does all armies look at Z*'s catalogue on yoyhammer. Patience is the key

Where the hell can a nigga get bits?

I bought all but two of my vehicles on ebay. Need tracks for a bunch, pieces missing, all that stuff.
Can email if you like.

Couldn't get an answer in last thread, New player, interested in harlequins, are they viable in a non-tournament setting without allies?

Does the Deathwatch shoulderpad have a name?

What would you do if your opponent told you he played loyalist Space Marines, and then pulled out a Alpha Legion army?

Librarian. Whats the best force weapon? He is going to be Ravenguard. Might try and convert an axe or a Lance (is there even a force Lance?)

Sternguard vets

Are those Z or CCON?

If you're not playing to win 100% of the time, definitely. You'll have to keep it to smaller games most likely, however.

Easiest answer is just pick up some corsairs or Craftworlders to fill in points.

Theres no force lance. You want the axe.

Cybernetica datasmith. Note the completeness of fine components.

Neither although I have a friend who bought ccon and regularly uses it in GW.
.Land speeder. No warping

Centurion. Not sure why they include other components besides grav cannons. Are they ever used?

Ven Dread. Nice solid panels, no warping.

Hmmm....is it CDR or MI?

Sword and axe are the best.

Vanguard Vets. Check out the lightning claws. Sharp, unwarped and perpendicular

Alright, Might take the axe from the vanguard and pin it to the staff. That sounds ravenguard enough

It is a China based recaster. Not Z or CCON . I'll leave it at that

You've been drafted into the guard, oh my!
Now they're handing out weapons, and you drew the short straw.

Choose between the two special weapons they need troopers to carry:
>Plasma Gun. You're expected to be on the line, preferably holding it. If you don't keep the bitch firing, the Commissar will be displeased.
>Melta Gun. While it can't kill you, the armor you're going to be charging at very well might. Sneaking up to tanks is considered Cowardly by your Commissar.
>Flamer. Mildly dangerous to you. It's a short range weapon, and you'll be place in the area of heaviest fighting to take advantage of it. No Commissar, more enemies.
>Demolitions Charge. Heavy, unwieldy, and likely to explode if you're shot at. If you don't throw it far enough, kiss your squad goodbye. No pressure. You're storming walls, by the by.

Damn. They're really good fucking casts. Now that I look at them, guessing Z was stupid. They're too clean.

that narrows it down to 50 recasters, how helpful. if its a private recaster, just fucking say so, no one from gw is going to care if you say the name.

the four* special

Damn, those are fine. Props on your find, user.

so now that we have traitor legion leaks, what are the funnest or most interesting hq builds with the new stuff?

Yeah it's only the second time I got recasts too so I'm pleased. Bastard doesn't do chaos though or rhinos or even predators so I need to get real ones. Then flash on them is very minimal and there are fewer mould lines than real models

Flamer all the way, man. I love the smell of liquid promethium in the morning.

Everyone has to find their own recaster user. Its a personal journey. Good luck!

>no one from gw is going to care if you say the name

Uh huh, sure. I don't even do recasting and I know that's bullshit.

Plasma gun, but I'll wear oven gloves. Safety first

>Tau Standard CAD (1000pts)

>Ethereal (Homing beacon, honor blade, hover drone, recon armor)
>XV8 unit (2x Fusion and Stim, 2x Flamer and Target Lock)
>XV8 unit (3x 2xPlas and EWO, one buffsuit with CC Node/MSS/RIF)
>Ghostkeel (Ion Raker, TL Fusion, Stim Injector, Counterfire

>2x Strike Team (9 FW, 1 Shas'ui w/ ML, 1 SMS Turret)

>Broadside (ATS, Seeker Missile, TL HRR/TL SMS)

How bad is this for a friendly 1000pt game? It's the models I've got as they're modeled, mostly, except 5/6 Crisis suits are flexible.

>flawless
>not even out of the bag yet

Sure.

>You drew the short straw
>I get to carry the most badass gun on the field

Melta all day every day.

>Sorry fella, Its a reclusive club and I buy from the best.

Yet you can't even afford the real thing. I don't have anything against recasts but fuck off.

>Take Melta
>Stop bathing
>Acquire interesting collection of skin diseases

Begin new life as Jurgen.

>buying recasts of plastic kits

To what end

Gonna play this, this weekend.

Autocannon sentinels are a good loadout for them.

Chimeras seem good, don't presume your veterans invincible inside of them, and if you face down melta weapons be sure to disembark and use the chimeras as a seperate strike force to draw fire off the vets.

The tanks feel like somewhat of a big point sink at this level, but if you can roll well with the Punisher you can easily make the points back mowing down MEQs.

Overall kinda risky in this current age of vehicles getting raped, but could be good.

I buy real too. But if I can get near perfect ones more convenient than real (closet GW is 2 hours by plane away) then why not? Dont be jelly user. I did my research to get the recaster details

saving shekels

Thanks for the comments. Are footslogging Guard better in this edition? I have about 40 guys painted, which isn't a lot for foot slogging. I also need more Heavy Weapons Squads to really bring some firepower.

True, I haven't checked every component. You got me user!

Nightlords Murderclaws seems simple and nice if not the best.
How the iron warriors demon possess one work?

Probably not great, but they're fun. They do fuck up space marine drop pods if you have so many bodies that they cannot physically deploy them anywhere useful

I respect that, but we can't "start our journey" without even a vague description of our destination other than "It's a Chinese caster". I know you didn't buy from 50+ individual recasters to find them, so why should we? You probably had a tiny breadcrumb so why not at least let us know where that breadcrumb was so we can "start our journey"?

Ah okay. So vehicle Guard and footslogging Guard aren't that strong then? Ideally in bigger point games I'd like to have a healthy mix of vehicles and meat for the grinder, but I have some ways to go in terms of painted army.

Guard is just relatively weak unless you spam the Wyvern or stuff like that.

Its only difficult if you have a self imposed /r/ ban. I did for a time until I lifted it last year. Although the community is hardly any better than Veeky Forums, at least I can search for previous threads of notable content with Google search.

Oh, I'm no stranger to Reddit, I frequent Yoyhammer and another private recast sub. But there's not need to be "NO, ULTRA SECRET MEMBERS ONLY" to people asking for a hint, you're already talking about recasts, so you may as well throw people a line and see if they're competent enough to find the answer on their own. It's okay to give breadcrumbs, even if they're tiny. They give people a starting point. I found CCON's stuff through a long search. I even emailed him, but I guess it was an old email address or something because he never replied.

>But there's not need to be "NO, ULTRA SECRET MEMBERS ONLY" to people asking for a hint

Yes there is. Maybe you're young and naive or a lefty, but if you have a good thing going for yourself then you want to keep it that way. Putting the spotlight on the chinks will only bring more heat for the recasters and more trouble for the customer base.

Is it unfair that you're being left out and have to do some investigating on your own? Maybe. But fuck your needs, I have my own.

I got Zs email by accident someone didn't know he couldn't delete posts right away or some shit... now that I have the email I feel you just the chance my china men will be gone I can't risk giving that info

I've been having fun thinking about NL, too.

You have:
-4Ld Fear test Raptor Squad

Nurgle /Tzeentch 2++ Prince

Murder squad with Flying Sorc with Artificer armor, Lord with Murder Claws and 10 Raptors. The Sorc blesses the squad with shit like Fire Shield for a 3+ cover out in the open, Warp Fate, Unearthly Anathema, Ley Leech, Fleshmetal, Invisibility, and/or Endurance.

p sure GW doesn't even care about recasters anymore. all the ones that are here now have been around for years and years, and new ones are popping up as well, the biggest reason why people don't want e-mails shared is because recasters are normally swamped for business anyways and honestly don't need many more customers.

>going to build with 2 ccw
>pistol and chain sword is viable as well.

Pistol is a ccw, so pistol and ccw is 2 ccw.

Also you can only give your models one relic each, it was in one of the new FAQs

If you're going to sit here and gloat about your awesome recasts and tell anyone who wants an inkling of direction towards acquiring their own to fuck off, then don't post them at all. I'm glad you got some sweet Chinese resin, but EVERYONE knows people are going to want to at least know where you got them. Like you said, "if you have a good thing going for yourself then you want to keep it that way". Don't sit there and play innocent when people want a piece of the cake you put in front of their face and tell them they can't have it or even learn who baked it so that they can buy one themselves. If you don't want people eyeballing your cake with watering mouths don't bring it to the party.

You're forgetting that most cakes are bad. Find yourself a good cake store instead of wishing for one.

r/yoyhammer
and google search/archive search for Z(zhanchui), ccon, these are the two most common ones. there are many others, but its a good way to start.

Do you guys think maybe GWs prices would be better if people stopped buying from the Chinaman? Shouldn't they be able to produce greater quantities of models with decreasing costs for each model?

AYYY LMAO

people started really buying from chinamen when gw's prices increased, so no.

Yoyhammer. I found everything I know in there

Naw, I feel the best way to start is with the "mid tier" store fronts. Its a perfect compromise between risk, affordable pricing, and resin quality. Z and CCON are for min-maxing and their primary customers are people who want to spend one or two grand annually.

If you just want a few Forgeworld models, the Chink e-store fronts are a good place to go.

CCON has a taobao shop. Use that instead. No need for emails.

Wrong user, I didn't gloat. I'm the recast user. I even told you I found the info on yoyhammer.

rolling up a new detachment of deathwatch, in the deathwatch codex page 72 where it lists the points for wargear, under specialist wargear there is no jumppack listed, but in appendix for specialst issue wargear it does have jump packs.
does this mean i cant give my chaplain a jump pack since there is no point cost, and its just in the appendix because the veteran vanguards come with them?

How are DW vanguard vets best equipped?

Maybe 1 or 2 with stormshields and the rest with lightning claws? I really haven't a clue. Do they have any good formations?

If you don't have a clue how DW works then just don't comment...

>Veeky Forums in one post

Dw fomations are all veterans with something X units attached as a single unit.

Vanguard vets have to drag along regular footsloggers vets to reroll wounds vs elites and failed charges.

How are necrons? Im coming back to the game after about 3~ years away and want to dust off my dudes

What kinds of lists are sucessfull?

Togh but samey.
All infantry carry one gun.

Depends who you play.
Vs the big boys you are stuck with monobuild.

Like I dunno, 5-6th best army. Read the new codex.

Use the Decurion's stuff.

GW plastic prices are obscene too, that 3 man centurion squad is $78 whereas he bought the entire lot of models from the Chinaman for $60.

GW would have so much more of my money if the prices were cheaper. I just get my shit off eBay mostly, but when I've gone into a GW even when I've been in that mood to just impulse buy some plastic crack the prices have still turned me away.

Shit I even stopped myself buying glue in store because it cost 7.50 euro for a tiny pot.

Anyone use Militarum Tempestus at all? I was thinking putting in an allied detachment to my IG. They seem awesome.

Flamer. SUFFER NOT THE UNCLEAN TO LIVE

CCON is mid-tier.

Some do.

Are assault centurions any good? They look so slow and they will never get to overmatch their flamers

Here's a recaster question I'm sure someone can answer.

[Spoiler] is the MI website legit? Seems a bit shakey [/spoiler]

If you wanna spoiler something just highlight it and hit ctrl + s

Does anyone know what the Auxiliary/Core/HQ choices for the new Death Guard Decurion are?

Hoping that the "Spawn" formation is still in for cheap auxiliary tax.

No idea what it is.

I've been told to use it as a catalog and the email is on that website. Send that email address your order with the product numbers.

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And everything else, if you want it.

Please show the iron warriors one!

Forgot the fucking picture...