>3 points for a T4 model? no yes. T4 measn shit, when you have basically no ranged attacks, and you are fucking I2 with a 6+. the only thing its gets you is protection from las guns
Wyatt Mitchell
aren't they going moba with this?
Justin Baker
Daddy kinda didnt love any of his sons theres is that.
Its a fact that Emps was a massive sperg when it came to govern his sons. He could have done SO much better job, easily.
Ayden Sanders
Just downgrade Ork boys and cut their price in half. Downgrade Ork boyz to t3, it makes more sense that way anyway. s2 t2 grots, s3 t3 boyz, s4 t4 boyz, s5 t5 warboss.
John Harris
why? why make then less tough? its the one thing theyhave going for them
Adrian Parker
So far it looks like a chimera of 1, 2 and a little Dota
Dominic Rogers
Toughness 4 is worthless and it would justify a massive price decrease.
Adrian Perez
Orks have always been T4 for base boyz. You can't change change things that have always been.
Looks cool but a bit too flashy, for now at least.
Benjamin Myers
I don't think Obliterators were around since 2e, though, nor are they a core unit of their Faction.
Changing the basic statline on Orks would be like changing the basic stats on Tac Marines or Guardsmen, you just Don't Do It.
Luis Martin
Who else /SonofColchis/ here?
I'm super fucking hard for their rules, I don't care that they're towards the lower end in the supplement.
Sebastian Perry
Looks like fucking trash.
Oh yeah a Farseer just charging through the open into melee with a whole squad of Tac Marines unloading boltshells.
Chase Parker
aww yiss /SonofColchis/
I'm really not excited for their rules at all though. We got fucking reamed, compared to Death Guard, Emperor's Children or even Black Legion.
Dark Apostles are still shitty, the boost to summoning is basically neglible, and possessed as troops is fucking awful because possessed are so overcosted as to be totally useless.
Anthony Morris
>wants Orks to be cheaper than Tyranids Fuck off.
Levi Foster
Name my Guard homeworld Veeky Forums. They're grey and apparently lack blue paint
Camden Murphy
>40% for cuckbearers WEW E W
I'll admit it's a shame they got shafted on crunch though. I may not like them but everyone deserves good rules for Their Dudes.
>Alpha Legion in 2nd place Good taste there at least
Grayson Hill
Which kit did the icon on this staff come from?
Luis Perry
Another /SonofColchis/ checking in. I'm just happy to have rules.
Daniel Ross
Looks like the end of the bloodthirster whip, the new one
Alexander Murphy
Skyhammer Annihilation force (645)
Assault squad - 110 +Power weapon, jump packs, veteran sergeant Assault squad - 100 +Power weapon, jump packs Devastator squad - 245 +4 grav cannons, drop pod Devastator squad - 190 +4 lascannons, armorium cherub, drop pod
Iron Cyclone Dreadnought Drop Strike (1355)
Deathstorm drop pod - 75 Deathstorm drop pod - 75 Deathstorm drop pod - 95 automated assault cannons
Venerable Dreadnought - 200 +assault cannon, heavy flamer, lucius dreadnought drop pod Ironclad Dreadnought - 195 Heavy flamer, lucius dreadnought drop pod Dreadnought - 170 Assault cannon, heavy flamer, Lucius dreadnought drop pod
The ultimate in alpha strike army lists, 5 drop pods and 20 marines turn one, 3 dreadnoughts and 15 terminators turn two
Dominic Baker
Ultrafag, please go and stay go.
Nathaniel Nguyen
Cato Sicarius please go
Jose Russell
/SonofColchis/ without daemon models or any love for possessed here I guess I'll stick to spreading the Primordial Truth as Alpha Legion stand-ins with 100ish cultists
Levi Scott
You are no true son.
Kevin Campbell
Your failure will be heard by the Dark Council. Get thee from my sight, traitor.
Kevin Wilson
That's an Apocalypse formation. It's not legal for regular 40k.
William Collins
>Upgrading Buildings.
Droppped completely, just having buildings is shit in itself.
Cooper Ramirez
apocalypse specifically doesn't use points so why did you point out a 2k list which uses apocalyptic blasts
Matthew Morales
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Luis Brooks
MOBAfag fuck outta here.
DOW1 was by far the best one. Starcraft is still the best competitive strategy game in existence, DOW would do well to learn more from it.
tfw can't decide between nightlords and thousand sons, end up going for insane edgy batman
daily reminder that Konrad Curze never fell to chaos, it's only his twisted children who accept daemonic possession.
We didn't abandon the imperium, the imperium abandoned us.
Luke Mitchell
>thinking you need apocalypse rules to make a cheese space marine list
just take your 40 free razorbacks and drop pods like a good goyim
Jason Ross
>Starcraft is still a shitty base for a Warhammer 40.000 game.
Buiding units in itself is trash.
Pre-game budget, no reinforcements, only upgrade between games.
That's 40k.
Samuel Lopez
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
Nicholas Perry
That's boring
Eli Long
No, that's tabletop.
If you want a solid RTS you need an economy element.
Logan Garcia
Do we have any leaks of Codex Inquisition yet? I'm hearing a lot of conflicting information about it and all I really want to know is what units are in the book.
Kevin Morales
DoW is not a faithful reproduction of the tabletop game.
Christopher Williams
>not accepting your place as traitor to an imperium of lies
Jacob Scott
If only it had learned the right lessons from StarCraft....
Brandon Peterson
>That's 40k You really have shitty opinions.
Tyler Evans
Ask again Saturday.
Jack Parker
>DoW is not a faithful reproduction of the tabletop game.
>Stormtroppers beating marines in melee because they are "higher tier" No shit
Gabriel Richardson
The GW community website published a full list.
Samuel Wood
Anyone tried running a battle company properly?
That is to say, 10 guys to a unit instead of 5 guys to a unit.
50 dudes is half a company.
Brandon Long
It's because I'm better than a traitor, I'm no blind sheep following a false god, nor do I ally myself with evils who would see me as a puppet.
I may not have much beyond my spacehulk and my men, but I'm free.
Dominic Torres
Might as well play Regicide
Ethan Morales
Battle Company should only give free transports with full 10 man squads imo
Xavier Moore
>AL and EC tied for second YOU DUN ME PROUD /TRAITORS GENERAL/ >but still behind wordbears Low energy!
Easton Davis
tfw gw is in a golden age and you still get autists crying about dow3
dow3 is going to be fricking awesome my doods, tons of knights and cool units
Henry Cook
>Word Bearers in first place
AURELIAN
Lincoln Lewis
Do note Favourite=/=Would ever touch with a 10 foot pole
Dominic Garcia
alpha legion is like heresy light, you fags are practically loyalists
Henry Peterson
It's going to suck, but who cares, because 40k has always been about narrative games on the tabletop, not some Veeky Forums trash.
David Campbell
So both the qt at the GW store and someone else in one of these generals told me that Militarum Tempestus basically have a rule like Send In The Next Wave where they can repsawn their units, but I couldn't find it in the codex. Am I just bad at reading?
Jose Cruz
Nah, instead you're just an indecisive murderer who can't commit to either side. At least the 1k1 sons and the Alphas made a choice.
Aiden Mitchell
It's from the Start Collecting Formation.
Caleb Anderson
They have their deserved spot.
Anthony Wilson
only their start collecting does.
David Evans
Let them the Council come They can end me but another one will take my place, and another one will take his place and so on until the many words of Lorgar sweep away the realm of the false god and your rotting Council
Xavier Price
>because 40k has always been about narrative games on the tabletop
really? everytime some neckbeard waxes poetic about 40k it's because he masturbates to the latest tournament list.
the vidya 40k content has been top (asides from the mobile game cash grabs)
Space Marine was a great third person shooter with really fun multiplayer and all the DoW have been incredibly fun, from 8 player diplomacy games with mods adding in codex units to DoW2 three man queuing ladder with my friends playing marine,marine,marine and crushing with 2x captain 1x techmarine.
I'm sorry if your autism prevents you from having fun and enjoying the video games user
Dylan Stewart
Cuz we aren't cucked by abusive dark gods that we turned to out of daddy issues.
We do this shit cuz it's fun.
Carson Taylor
That explains it. Thank you.
Xavier Fisher
No you don't. You did it because some aliens said so. You're xenocucks.
Henry Sanchez
The only thing worse than being a loyalist, is being a xenoscuck.
Sounds like someone's forgotten the Great Crusade.
Jayden Sanders
ALPHA LEGION MOST ALPHA OF THE LEGIONS
TIED WITH WB FOR FIRST NOW
GET REKT POSSESSED BETAS
Justin Howard
>you fags are practically loyalists So... competent and likely to succeed outside the narrative?
Camden Nelson
Gryscal It's Grey Scale without the E but it's not exactly subtle
Lucas Jones
Wrong. Read the fluff in Traitor Legions. Codexes/Official Rules Supplements >>> Black Library.
Blake Parker
>So... competent and likely to succeed outside the narrative?
It's actually the opposite sadly, have you seen the rules you get in the codex supplement? You're literally the weakest of a weak codex.
Ayden Fisher
Just change the spelling and add a number.
Griscol IV.
Mason Cruz
So does that mean I could run the Hellrain Brigade multiple times to make it viable at higher point levels?
Juan Hill
> AL >weakest at least have an idea of how the game works before posting here
Carson Wright
Post the full supplement and I will. All that's been posted thus far is the crunch, afaik.
Dominic Cruz
It means you can try.
Ethan Powell
Alpha Legion?
lolno. It's WB that got the weakest. I think you got mixed up user, reread the comment chain.
Cameron Moore
Nothing contradicts it.
Alpharius/Omegon decided to go traitor because the Cabal. Then lied to their legion.
Brandon Flores
I though tit was NL who got fucked.
Having no bonus against half the armies in the game.
Adrian Jenkins
Nice.
Thomas Edwards
The leaker who posted screencaps of the rules also did a number of fluff pages.
Alpha Legion literally went traitor because they liked Horus and thought it would be fun to finally have an enemy that was a worthy opponent for their skills, that being loyalist Legions. Then they just did their own thing for the entire Heresy and beyond, because Alpha As Fuck.
Noah Fisher
AL is better off using Codex Space Marines to write their list
Jacob Morris
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Luke Clark
Alpha Legion is actually really really cool in the horus heresy, nothing says brutal as fuck like drilling to murder your brothers
Lincoln Phillips
double respawning cultist squads are awesome though.
Thomas Gray
What's your favourite AL paint scheme Veeky Forums?
Duncan's blue with green highlights
or
Metallic Green
Henry Price
They were pretty much born with a permanent hate boner for Ultras, no matter how much they did they could never prove themselves abetter cause Ultras had a head start and carefully laid plans with 0 casualties for the AL were dismissed as "waste of time, just throw bodies at it"
Cameron Diaz
>Having no bonus They still have night vision, stealth, and can force super night fighting on the first turn.
Josiah Long
>MFW trying to make it legible >Ignoring my own fucking copy on my desk.