Desired scans : Rank and File supplements Harpoon 3 & 4 supplements Force on Force supplements Hind Commander At Close Quarters War and Conquest
Jason Mitchell
15th December in military history:
533 – Vandalic War: Byzantine general Belisarius defeats the Vandals, commanded by King Gelimer, at the Battle of Tricamarum. 1161 – Jin–Song wars: Military officers conspire against Emperor Hailing of the Jin dynasty after a military defeat at the Battle of Caishi, and assassinate the emperor at his camp. 1467 – Stephen III of Moldavia defeats Matthias Corvinus of Hungary, with the latter being injured thrice, at the Battle of Baia. 1778 – American Revolutionary War: British and French fleets clash in the Battle of St. Lucia. 1864 – American Civil War: Battle of Nashville: Union forces under George Thomas almost completely destroy the Army of Tennessee under John Hood. 1890 – Hunkpapa Lakota leader Sitting Bull is killed on Standing Rock Indian Reservation, leading to the Wounded Knee Massacre. 1914 – World War I: The Serbian Army recaptures Belgrade from the invading Austro-Hungarian Army. 1917 – World War I: An armistice between Russia and the Central Powers is signed. 1942 – World War II: The Battle of Mount Austen, the Galloping Horse, and the Sea Horse begins during the Guadalcanal Campaign. 1943 – World War II: The Battle of Arawe begins during the New Britain Campaign. 1960 – King Mahendra of Nepal suspends the country's constitution, dissolves parliament, dismisses the cabinet, and imposes direct rule. 1981 – A suicide car bombing targeting the Iraqi embassy in Beirut, Lebanon, levels the embassy and kills 61 people, including Iraq's ambassador to Lebanon. The attack is considered the first modern suicide bombing. 2005 – Introduction of the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor into USAF active service. 2006 – First flight of the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II.
Anthony Cruz
It is 152 years since the Battle of Nashville, a two-day battle that represented the end of large-scale fighting in the Western Theater of the American Civil War. It was fought between the Confederate Army of Tennessee under Lieutenant General John Bell Hood and Federal forces under Major General George H. Thomas. In one of the largest victories achieved by the Union during the war, Thomas routed Hood's army, largely destroying it as an effective fighting force.
The battle was the finale in a disastrous year for Hood’s forces. The rebels lost a long summer campaign for Atlanta, Georgia, in September 1864 when Hood abandoned the city to the army of William T. Sherman. Hood then took his diminished force north into Tennessee. He hoped to draw Sherman out of the Deep South, but Sherman had enough troops to split his force and send part of it to chase Hood into Tennessee. Sherman airily indicated that this was exactly what he wanted and that if Hood "continues to march North, all the way to Ohio, I will supply him with rations."
At Spring Hill, Tennessee, the Confederates allowed a Union division to escape from Columbia and pass by them unmolested to Franklin, a small town south of Nashville. Enraged over this missed opportunity, Hood ordered futile frontal assaults at Franklin against entrenched Federals, many of whom were armed with repeating rifles. The fierce, five-hour Battle of Franklin on November 30 decimated his force and cost him a division commander and four brigadier generals. Undeterred, he continued on and besieged Thomas’ larger force at Nashville.
There, Hood constructed works along a five-mile-long line south of the city. Between the 8,000 men lost at Franklin and those detached under Nathan Bedford Forrest, who had been sent to capture Murfreesboro, Hood’s army was down to about 20,000 men. He hoped to draw Thomas into attacking him. After repulsing those attacks, Hood reasoned, he would counterattack and take the city.
Julian Cruz
Thomas had 70,000 men, over 55,000 of which he planned to use as maneuver troops. A severe ice storm halted operations until December 15. As the two sides glared at each other from their ice-bound entrenchments, Lieutenant General Ulysses S. Grant, unaware of the severity of the weather conditions, repeatedly sent telegrams from the East urging Thomas to move out of his works and attack the enemy. Thomas had been nicknamed "Old Slow-trot" before the war, when he restrained West Point cadets from galloping their horses. Grant referred to him by that old nickname because he felt Thomas was too slow in his movements in the field. When no action occurred in response to his telegrams, Grant sent an officer to observe the situation; that officer also carried an order relieving Thomas of command.
While Grant’s emissary was still on a Tennessee-bound train, the weather broke. Union troops moved out of their defenses, southeast along the Murfreesboro Road to assail and pin the Confederate right, and west along and between the Charlotte and Harding pikes. The lead troops on the Murfreesboro Road were inexperienced soldiers of the United States Colored Troops. They took shelter from Confederate rifle fire in a railroad cut, only to be enfiladed and cut to pieces by a previously unseen artillery battery. One Confederate soldier wrote disgustedly, "Where were those men’s officers? I did not see a single white body on that field." Other Federal troops of Maj. Gen. James Steedman’s command succeeded in keeping the Confederate right pinned, to prevent reinforcements against the main attack.
The westward movement went almost exactly according to Thomas’ plan. After driving off a small force west of town, the Federals swung southeast as if on a hinge. They outflanked a group of Confederate redoubts and drove the Rebels south. When morning dawned on the second day, the over-extended Confederate line had been compressed into roughly the shape of an upside-down U.
James Butler
The western bend in the line was anchored on the heights of Shy’s Hill, the eastern bend atop the slopes of Peach Orchard (Overton’s) Hill. Federal assaults against the Hill, which had to be made over the tops of trees that the Confederates had felled on the slopes, met tremendous fire from the 2,000 infantrymen and supporting artillery of Lt. Gen. Steven D. Lee’s Corps. Some 6,000 Federals, including two divisions of USCT, made valiant attempts against the position but were repulsed. So many Union soldiers died on the slopes that it was said a person could walk from the top of the hill to the bottom without touching the ground.
Shy’s Hill was a different story. Around 4:00 p.m., two Union corps plus cavalry, over 40,000 men in all, attacked 5,000 under Maj. Gen. William Bate. Confederate artillery had been positioned in such a way that once the advancing Federals reached a certain point on the slope, the guns could not fire at them. The blue line swept over the crest, capturing most of the defenders.
The hill became known as Shy’s Hill after the battle. Confederate Colonel William Shy, of Franklin, was among the defenders. His body was later found on the hill, bayoneted to a tree, a bullet hole in his forehead. Controversy still continues over which side was actually responsible.
With the Shy’s Hill anchor gone, the rest of Hood’s line collapsed and fled toward Franklin. Darkness and exhaustion prevented effective pursuit, and the rag-tag remnants of the Army of Tennessee continued on to Tupelo, Mississippi, where Hood resigned his command. For his overwhelming victory, Thomas became one of only 13 officers to receive the Thanks of Congress in the war and was promoted from brigadier general in the regular U.S. Army to major general, U.S. Army.
Union losses in the fighting at Nashville numbered 387 killed, 2,558 wounded, and 112 captured/missing, while Hood lost around 1,500 killed and wounded as well as around 4,500 captured/missing.
Wyatt Hughes
The Battle of Nashville marked the effective end of the Army of Tennessee. Historian David Eicher remarked, "If Hood mortally wounded his army at Franklin, he would kill it two weeks later at Nashville." Although Hood blamed the entire debacle on his subordinates and the soldiers themselves, his career was over. He retreated with his army to Tupelo, Mississippi, resigned on January 13, 1865, and was not given another field command.
But the drama of the battle continued into the next century. On Christmas Eve 1977 a headless body was discovered next to a newly opened grave in Williamson County, Tennessee. The head was found nearby. The body was clothed in what appeared to be a tuxedo. The matter was referred to the state medical examiner who determined that this was a homicide, that the victim was a white male, 5' 11" tall, weighing 173 lbs., and approximately 26 years of age. The medical examiner further determined that the cause of death was a large caliber bullet wound to the head, and that the man had been dead for 6 to 12 months. Everything but the time of death was correct; the body was that of Colonel Shy, who had died defending the hill bearing his name 113 years before. The newly opened grave was his, and he had apparently been exhumed by grave robbers in search of Civil War collectibles. The remarkable state of preservation was due to the fact that Colonel Shy had been buried in a sealed cast iron coffin (also found nearby) and had been embalmed with a fluid heavily laced with arsenic.
Colonel Shy was reinterred with appropriate military honors. The cast iron coffin is on display at the Carter House in Franklin.
Jace Carter
Nashville is a classic example of a late-ACW meatgrinder, where the battles had begun to prefigure the trench assaults of later years. It is a situation where strategic maneuver is all-important, and would be best played at the divisional level (6mm/10mm) to properly simulate this. (The Polemos rules or Longstreet are well suited for it.) The Western Theatre doesn't get as much attention as the Eastern, and this is one of its main battles. Also it's yet another good example of how personalities were such an issue among the leadership of the ACW.
This month's community project is a food/drink-related mini or unit.
Ryan Diaz
What's your favorite game for tank on tank action, say no more than a company of tanks per side?
Henry Evans
Ostfront. Quick, deadly, simple. Good balance between realism and fun.
Adrian Perez
I'd like to create a tiny diorama of franks/huns raiding a roman village, where can I find good buildings or any guides to make my own?
James Rodriguez
How tiny are we talking here?
Andrew Lopez
LAV-75
Charles Sullivan
The god damn water effects were sold out so I can't get my project ready on time.
Isaiah Reed
Despite what some people might say, Flames of War.
Jose Anderson
Detailed or "beer & pretzels"?
Anthony Gonzalez
>50677776 >The author quickly dismisses a ground-up approach of calculating movement based on ground scale as impractical as soon as you add weapons that fire at range god fucking damnit, this is missing the point so hard. You take ground scale, you take table size and weapon ranges, and you factor in time scale. if one turn is half an hour, weapon ranges should be short compared to movement! if time scale is one second (sup gurps) you should be able to shoot forever. YOU CAN ADJUST TIME SCALE AND UNIT SCALE TO GET COMFORTABLE MOVEMENT AND FIRING RANGES AND THEN YOU HAVE A GROUND SCALE AND YOUR PEGASUS BRIDGE AIN'T ALL FUCKED UP
James Martin
ogre/gev >:3
Cameron Gutierrez
You could use layers of PVA. let them dry before applying the next layer. . Wont be the same but will give a liquid look fine for a soup pot. Its what I used for my pasta pot for my WW2 italians
Grayson Campbell
Scale is the main factor here. But as a rule of thumb, premade terrain tends to be quite expensive. Scratchbuilding will definitely be involved at some level. I think we have something on diorama-building in our Modelling folder, but it would really be a good idea to go look at modelling magazines.
Joshua Brown
I think I may need the help of some user here: I can't find any reference picture with both 1/72 and 1/100 scale ww2 tanks put in comparison, and I'm an ignorant regarding scale.
Can anyone help? I assume that the 1/72 ones would be bigger, but I don't know how much
Jackson Gomez
I actually have these two images tucked away in a folder; this one...
Brayden Rivera
>I assume that the 1/72 ones would be bigger
Correct.
You can do the math very easy by yourself.
For example a Tiger tank in RL is (according to Wiki) 8,45 m long (not sure if thats with barrel or without, but that does not matter for now).
In 1/72 this vehicle is 11,6 cm long (845 cm/72) In 1/100 our Tiger is 8,45 cm long.. 845cm/100
Brody Rodriguez
and this
Isaac Garcia
many thanks. I cannot understand something though: if flames of war vehicles and soldiers scale is 1/100, while stuff sold by Italeri is 1/72, why are they both labeled as "15mm" figures?
Julian Carter
>while stuff sold by Italeri is 1/72, why are they both labeled as "15mm" figures?
Do you have an example for 15mm Italeri?
15mm = 1/100 20mm = 1/72
Andrew Diaz
I do not own any, but seeing this pic I assumed that they were quite similar, even though plastic soldier are labeled as 15mm while the italeri sprue is a 1/72 (you should be able to see how they seem to be more or less proportionated the same way)
James Flores
Thats not the original size of that Italeri sprue though. They might look similar, but they are bigger.
Ian Kelly
The 1/72 chaps will tower over their 15mm comrades. This pic shows (l to r) 10mm, 15/18mm, and 1:72 (roughly 20-22mm).
Julian Sullivan
oh I see, thanks for the clear example
Ryder Cooper
Should have written that it'll be 28mm. But I'll take a look around for magazines.
Logan Collins
Once PVA is wet but has skinned over, a drop of superglue will react with the surface and create bubbles up to 2-3mm. Not super useful for /hwg/ but I used it to make bubbling goo back when I played WHFB
Dominic Cooper
Starting Bolt Action I have a box of 25 British Infantry, 2 Vickers K LMG teams, 1 PIAT team and 1 Light Mortar team. I'm trying to balance historical accuracy and competitiveness in this list. Can I get some advice?
2nd Lieutenant SMG Regular 60 +1 Infantry SMG
Forward Observer SMG Regular 10 +1 Infantry SMG
8 Commando Sections 112
9 Commando Sections 126
8 Commando Sections 112
PIAT Anti-tank team Veteran 52
Light Mortar teams Inexperienced 24
Total: 496
Wyatt Howard
>historical accuracy then get rid of the inexperienced mortar and make him veteran or at least regular.
also: are there people, playing competitively with 500pts?
I'm not sure you grabbed what it meant to be a commando.
Brayden Murphy
>>forward observer well to be fair, they partook in bigger operations next to normal army units too. so it's not extremely far fetched, especially since the brits get the FO for free it can't be helped.
Austin Robinson
Could anyone let me know what battles/campaigns these would be suitable for?
PSC make the same stuff in different scales - I know they do this with infantry, and I think the 1/72 and 15mm sprues are similar in design, just rescaled.
BA version of commandos aren't trained to scout/FO?
Brody Bailey
>BA version of commandos aren't trained to scout/FO? since in BA the FO is part of the HQ it can tag along to ANY unit. So in a way they are trained to do that.
Noah Wright
Regenboogforel, any sign of the package I sent you?
Isaiah Williams
Hey Westfront user, can the game be downsized to 10mm or 15mm? I'd like to base my 1:72s on separate bases but like the look of the unit bases you've made, and 10mm armies wouldn't be to expensive I reckon.
Jaxon Jackson
Hey guys,
I want to play bolt action and was thinking of making some WW2 Spartans (like they are elite Greek special forces).
I was thinking of getting some plastic Spartans and either giving them rifles or spear guns.
I am at a loss of how to have my tanks though, do they need tanks? Trying to keep it accurate and the theme accurate.
Did they have bullet proof shields back then or would it only work for modern day?
Oh im thinking of Victrix Spartans as they look suitable for the idea.
Mason Brooks
Just double all distances
Oliver Clark
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Xavier Hill
That is not what I am after though, please help.
Jeremiah Barnes
>double I guess you meant halve them.
Oliver Reyes
Or keep them the same and have a slightly closer ground:figure scale
Jacob Lopez
This has to be bait.
Xavier Kelly
I refuse to believe otherwise.
Grayson Mitchell
I just need help, what tanks would they have used? I refuse to believe Spartans just stopped their awesome culture over time. They must have killed hundreds of Germans and Russians for every man they lost. Especially if they kept their shields.
Samuel Lewis
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John Edwards
They were the best, so obviously they would have used only the best tank of the war: Tiger 2.
Jaxson Jenkins
Sorry mate, all the Spartans were onboard Giorgios Averoff, and they were poisoned by blue cheese prior to the war.
Christopher Diaz
Built myself a Beep.
William Foster
I was thinking, and I know it may be stretching the history, but I could do instead of a tank just a Halo Spartan (you know like a joke) with a cannon on top of a turtle formation of spartans (like in the movie). But I feel like its too silly so maybe just use a Tiger as you suggest.
Daniel Perez
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Mason James
Dont spartans eat poison every day to build immunity? Which was a great idea for the time (way ahead of the rest of the world) and also helped them fight Persians who had to resort to poison coated weapons to make up for their shitty bodies.
Henry Jones
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Jayden Martin
Ah, but blue cheese was foreign to the greek constitution. Starting to feel very Baron Munchausen right now.
Looks sexy! Paint it up!
Tyler Cruz
>stretching
Luke Evans
Yea the Tiger sounds fine then.
What of the shields. I know modern day riot shields are used im just wondering if Spartans had them back then. Im sure they did since they had so much already but im not sure on this.
Eli Bennett
they had them
They had replaced the lambda (the little ^ on the shields) with
ECILOP
which is Greek for strength.
Benjamin Jackson
Your idea is bad and you should feel bad for posting it
Oliver Sullivan
You must be a japan weaboo or something. Cant stand that Spartans are better. Haha.
Ryan Diaz
Hmm, im not making my Spartans police, they had such a great and free society they didnt need police.
Blake Hall
wow way to break retard character.
no way the retard you are pretending to be would have noticed my cunning ruse.
Camden Barnes
Am I in the Twilight Zone again?
Logan Edwards
Im not retarded. I am alive and know things. Well informed one could say.
Zachary Bennett
>Trying to keep it accurate and the theme accurate.
Evan Cox
Why is the idea funny? Am I missing something. I was only joking about the spartan turtle tank.
Hudson Hernandez
The tank for the spartans has to be well suited to the hilly terrain of greece. I would suggest this
Noah Allen
That is a totally inadequate vehicle for the might of the ancient and noble spartans
This may be a suitable tank
Jack Allen
Ah real suggestions, thank you lads.
I would agree hardheartedly however there are inadequate rules to represent this.
Owen Clark
It would actually suit 10mm and 15mm (and 12mm - Kallistra) better than 1/72. The ranges and move distances suit those smaller scales much better. The rules specify that anything from 1/72 to 6mm could be used, but I think 10-15mm would be the sweet spot
I just use 1/72 because my local toy store stocks a bunch and its a scale I've become accustomed to with Ostfront.
I would attach a PDF for you to look through, but attach limit is 8MB (its 9MB) and I've yet to go through and rectify the things from the playtest, and add in the other markers / templates at the end
Supposedly the only native tanks they had were a few tankettes, and some captured tanks from the Greco-Italian war 1940/41. They used british tanks in the Egypt campaign though.
Oliver Ward
Are those Soviet soldiers? The rifle they're holding looks like a Mosin but I don't know much about the uniform of Soviet soldiers.
Very excited for the ruleset btw.
James Torres
They do seem to be soviet versions of the french adrian helment.
Almost finished the rules now, just adding in the marker pages.
Robert King
The Soviets used the adrian helmet in the beginning of Barbarossa.
Ryan Lewis
Bump
Grayson Barnes
Thanks user, this looks very well suited to my tastes in regards to balance of crunch and abstraction.
Dominic Perry
As has been mentioned, you want the Maus and Ratte as your heavies, but Panthers might serve well as light skirmishers. They had unique abilities on hills, like not being able to turn their turrets properly, and spontaneous combustion.
You can support me or you can wait until Christmas, where I'll post the PDF here, along with some of the Ostfront PDFs to add to our mediafires.
The campaign system didn't make it in, but I'll probably do a supplement at some stage, with the campaign system, and 2 or 3 maps. One of europe and north Africa, one focusing on the east African campaign, and maybe a Gallipoli campaign or something.
Now time to paint some WW2 Chinese infantry...
David James
Thanks user, really looking forward to it!
Thomas White
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Jaxson Ramirez
Voor god en vaderland!
Kevin Martin
Someone on the Honour Games facebook group posted some pics from various Rommel battle reports. Looks interesting. Grid based with cards for activation and movement (so maybe Maurice style?) but one deck between two players. Sam is just wrapping up the layout and getting it to the printers but might have more info post christmas.
Xavier Gomez
I want to start Bolt Action, as a way of getting back into wargaming (and because it is actually played in my area), would this list be decent enough? It's almost completely from the build your army box, which helps budget wise.
Dylan Cruz
what are some good ww2 skirmish games and are they in one of these folders
Josiah Campbell
Fivecore system (Five Men in X) is supposed to be pretty good.
Logan Mitchell
Disposable Heroes/Coffin for Seven Brothers is my favourite.
Aaron Bailey
I Ain't Been Shot Mum, Five Men in Normandy, Disposable Heroes
And yes, they're in our WW2/Games folder
Nathan Robinson
thanks anons , been wanting to scratch this ww2 itch without dropping too much on a large army
Carson Nguyen
Watch out best plane coming through. Also for some reason Avro Ansons in the background.
Benjamin Gomez
I always hear good things about Chain of Command. Note that if you want some kind of real points system you must dig into their forum.
Jordan Ramirez
I have a soft spot for the Defiant, that retarded stepchild of RAF fighters. It got one glorious moment over France 1940 when a pack of Me109s flying overhead mistook them for Hurricanes and charged down from behind - right into those quad Brownings. It was fine against bombers, admittedly, but once fighters showed up it was a dead duck. The FAA had an equivalent called the Roc, as beastly and ugly as its namesake, but it saw very limited service. Of course, the whole concept of a "turret-armed defence fighter" turned out to be a costly dead end.
Jason Butler
Nice. I've got a new weirdass plane to admire. In return, have another one of my favorites, the Rufe. It's a floatplane Zero. They weren't especially successful against other fighters, but they could still dogfight passably well and were nasty for strafing PT boats and the like.
