Schrödinger's Sisters of Battle are thing thanks to GW incompetence

Schrödinger's Sisters of Battle are thing thanks to GW incompetence.

Shall we make the Order of Uncertainty?

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I'm guessing they mostly operate in Segmentum Obscurus

Order of the sameface?

I don't know, should we?

I'm not sure.

Led by Celestine, Patron Saint of Quantum Physics

Gee, OP, do ya really think we oughta?

Give them fur-lined cloaks as a standard, that way if we don't get plastic Sisters, folks can convert Sisters of Silence into Order of Uncertainty.

I like your way of thinking

Chamber Militant of the Ordo Chronos, they are called in to deal with escalating time emergencies this has lead to the order not existing at during certain incidents as they're temporary clipped out of space-time.

However When the issue is resolved time bends around this meaning they often both do and do not exist.

I had totally forgotten that the Inquisitorial Time Police was a thing in 40k

>"dead"
>no bodies
>time travellers

I'm waiting for SoB to be Squated since 3rd. You have no power here.

>They just disappeared one day
So, they're either doing their job really really badly, or really really WELL.
My theory is that they were shunted out of time by a little while, to give them the drop on things.

Red + Purple = Oh fuck no!

They're at that awkward distance apart in they don't work as variants on the same base, nor complement each other, they simply clash, crash and burn.

Go for something in the green to yellow range (yellow's a bit questionable with the gold, try before you buy) for the fabric, or just give the finger to saturation and pick something in the black-grey-white range (probably bets not to get too close to the grey of the joints). Then pain the accents on the torso the same way as the accents on the helmet, pauldrons, etc (so gold in this case).

Not bad but I would toned down it a little bit, for some reason they go for eyes :)

better?

Before they were the Order of Uncertainty, they were the Order of the Unbroken Gate. So named because of their first service, guarding a fortress world from a seemingly endless tide of Orks, they were well-known for their resolute faith, even for Sisters, and their unflagging zeal to complete whatever mission given to them.

However, during a battle that pitted the entire Minor Order against a Lord of Change, the sisters were cast outside of time as a dying act of defiance. Though they returned a few seconds later, the sisters had wandered for a year across a span of parallel universes to return home.

They saw galaxies where the Imperium never rose, and humanity was a dwindling species enslaved by xenos; they saw galaxies where the Emperor had survived - some where he was a cruel despot, some where he was a benevolent lord. They saw galaxies that had thrived without him, where Horus had all but eliminated the memory of his father, or where other warlords had rose in his stead. They also saw galaxies that were merely fragments of worlds, spinning in a void of pure Chaos, or empty galaxies home to only dwindling embers of ship-bound life among dead husks of worlds. When they returned home, the sisters fell to their knees and wept, and their canonness bitterly lamented, for they had all lost their faith.

At that moment, a member of the Ordo Chronos approached them. He told the sisters that for all they had seen, their faith in the Emperor was not unfounded. His enemies attempted to work across time itself to destroy His work, and though they had suffered, by their experiences they had been forged into the only - perhaps the perfect - weapon to strike the foes of the Imperium across time itself.

The sisters all cheered, glad to have something to follow and believe in again once more. But the canonness decreed that their name would be the Order of Uncertainty, until the day came that they would have faith again.

I'm having flashback of an old tv show "jumpers" "slider" maybe? Where they got stuck jumping into different parallel dimension.

Sliders.

shit artists then, art =/= beauty. some of the best works of art depict gruesome things

>Why? If anything most SoB beside Superior and higher ranking are pretty much teenage girls.
wait what???

That's more like it. Just paint a test girl first to make sure the gold and yellow play nice together. A somewhat pale/tan-ish yellow like that should be a much safer bet than a more vibrant one at least.

>why don't artists make the things I want?
>they would if you pay them
>then they're shitty artists!

Great argument

While I'm having fun with this idea, might as well fluff out more:

>Enemies
Their major foes are the Necrons and the Eldar. The former have shown the ability to manipulate or travel through time, and the latter attempt to twist reality to fit their prophecies. Tzeentch is also a Chaos God they despise. The sisters also deal with incidents of uncomfortable warp travel - enemies that were lost to time suddenly reappearing, or horrid foes that have not been born yet being thrown into their time through the Warp.

>Recruitment and Supply

The Ordo Chronos is stringent about secrecy, but has resources to help keep the Sisters supplied with weapons and armor. Occasionally they even shunt through time to take arms and equipment that would be lost or destroyed anyway. Recruits trickle in from normal sources on occasion, but the Order of Uncertainty goes out of their way to save and adopt orphan girls into their ranks that were similarly cast through time or would have been lost to history without their intervention. Many worlds are lost, and records are uncertain; it is simple enough to save a few from a world doomed to be lost. Boys are often saved as well, but they are sent to more mundane Guard or Stormtrooper units that the Ordo Chronos uses for less demanding breeches of time.

>Why sisters and not Astartes?

For all their zeal and training, Sisters are still human women. If need be, they can take on more clandestine roles. And the Ordo Chronos has studied Space Marines, and found that the Sus-an Membrane does not react positively to shifts in time, often leaving an unconscious space marine stranded until he can be awoken. As well, Space Marines highly value independence, while the Ordo Chronos needs a chamber militant that can be kept constantly monitored and strictly controlled.

You do know where SoB come from?

They don't say at what age, but as soon they stop growing they are thrown into power armour.

SoB do not have special implants and such that do need a scout company for them to train and get used to their implantes.

As soon the SoB recruit is ready from the Schola to wear their own power armour they get one. So it is safe to asume that around 17-23 SoB would get their power armour (I would have to actually look up when humans stop growing)

There is a small part in the Cain books where SoB turn from total murder machine to school girl when around the manly guardsmen. Cain was very surprise about till he remember most of the Schola that goes out to the world as basically child with guns. Very deadly, trained and profesional, but still basically child and teenagers

Do all new recruits have to go through a similar experience as the originals but in a more controlled manner?

An empath recreating the experience by copy-pasting from an older sister's mind or taking a ride in a Ordo time bubble with a rest their fresh squad?

nobody mentioned anything about payment.
but id probably pay and play for plastic sisters that didnt look like anorexic sameface BDSM fetishists. and im not talking about the corset + boob armor, that can stay

>So it is safe to asume that around 17-23 SoB
ah okay then, when reading the word teengaer i was transfixed on around 14-16 years of age.

In my personal head canon is that the Ordo Chronos is a mix of the x-file, delta green or men in black.

The Ordo keeps the time line safe. Making sure "history stays the same" they are myth inside the inquisition mostly due because Ordo itself erase itself from history.

Since time travel is possible to warp dickery. Part of the job the Ordo has is to keep track of this kind of situation and well recruit from the unfortunated and unwilling time travelers

My bad, adolescent would had been more accurate, but not much more.

Might not be a bad idea, but that assumes that Sisters would have pyskers among their ranks, so I don't think it's likely.

I think the experience of being dragged outside of time, or the knowledge that you should not exist - you should have died in a ship crash, or a planetary invasion, or what have you - will probably be enough.

That's a good headcanon, but not really something you can build an entire Order of sisters out of. Imagine what sort of windfall would come of having an entire minor Order of sisters to work with, instead of just the scraps and unfortunates. Even if they die off quickly or get very spread out, they wouldn't ignore that opportunity.

>I would have to actually look up when humans stop growing
For girls, it's around 16.

There might be exceptions, I'm 25 and I still gain roughly 1cm a year.

Nonetheless, sororitas recieve the same kind of training as guard and navy officiers, commissars and stormtroopers. They don't grow up on trees. Considering the vast ressources of the ecclesiarchy, they probably have access to juvenat treatments. On the ther hand you have to take 40k combat losses rates into account.
Also, IIRC the rpg had sisters being only noviciates after leaving the schola.

>I think the experience of being dragged outside of time, or the knowledge that you should not exist - you should have died in a ship crash, or a planetary invasion, or what have you - will probably be enough.
Time fuckery is always fun.
>Welcome to your new family. Oh, by the way, the sister that saved you? It's actually yourself, aged 40.

Time fuckery like that is possible in 40k

Didn't one of the Revenor/Einsenhore books one of the Inquisitor war band member was an Imperial guardwoman medic that they brought from the past

>Order of Kobe, Our Most Holy Laker?

And? You really think artists are bad because they don't draw things they don't want to/aren't being paid for? The only people who say "I'm going to draw artistic things today" and then start drawing the most """"artistic"""" things they can think of are literal fucking autists like you. Artists are hobbyists, they do it for fun and expression, or they get paid.

The Order of Uncertaincy would work very well as a mixed order IMO. Dialogus are gonna be really useful when you need intel on your next mission half a millenium away. And the Pronatus would probably love to be able to go back in time to fetch holy relics.

She survived? That's great, I thought she was executed in the past after freeing Eisenhorn.

It's not a bad idea, but I don't want to go 'where did all you zombies come from' on it.

That's because they are utterly powerless.

The Inquisition knows that time fuckery can happen, and wants to be constantly on the look out for it so they can know when time travel is in play, but they don't have any way of dealing with it beyond what is normally available to inquisitors.

Like, they can try and catch a time traveler who is out exploring and kill him with sticks, but if he actually gets back in his time machine there is nothing the Ordos Chronos can do but pray that he doesn't go back in time and kill the Emperor.

SInce we're talking sci-fi and time paradoxes, Asimov's The End of Eternity is a good story about time police.
They have a modus operanti of directing mankind's path from the shadows by applying only minimal effort that would be well-suited for the ordo chronos. (like misplacing a case, so someone will get angry, yell at one of his coworkers, and 500 years later space industry is in ruins)

That is a good idea.

The Militant Chamber would be mostly tacticool SoBs? I mean you do not need a big number of operators operating to that sort of things.

>Didn't one of the Revenor/Einsenhore books one of the Inquisitor war band member was an Imperial guardwoman medic that they brought from the past
>She survived? That's great, I thought she was executed in the past after freeing Eisenhorn.

Wait wait wait wait wait. Did the Ravenor vs Eisenhorn trilogy get a second book already?

>tfw Veeky Forums takes your throwaway post and runs with it hard

I made that on the train this morning and I come home to this fantastic.

Well that's not interesting in the slightest, we need wacky-but-grim shit like obsidian hooks that they throw into places where time machines have warped out from that drag them along to it's destination and also act as their anchor and only way back to there own time.

Paradox Engines that hold the fabric of the universe together for a while so acolytes can find the warp point and fix it before shit gets too fucked.

Chronomancy psykers that develop new powers after being exposed to time-travel for a while and can do shit like open a portal to absorb you las-blast that opens in front of your chest two months later while you're in the bathtub.

I guess we all know who secretly bosses the Ordo Chronos around

It gets a grendel-tier reference in some report and that's it nothing more.

The Ordo Chronos is essentially UNIT, then?

This. You can't mix 40k with other shit tier media.

I want to have sex with those space nuns

IIRC, they stopped time and acted while everythign else stood still in the book. Dunno if it would fit in 40k.

Anyways, since time travel is mainly based on the warp in 40k, using sisters has operatives would make sense. Less chances of daemon corruption or something going awry.
I suppose they would be even more indoctrinated than regular sisters. Hexagrammic tattoos, psychoconditionning, squad cohesion to the max, maybe some kind of minor soul binding...

Let's say environnementally sealed armor like power armor is safer for time travel, too.

And akimbo bolt pistols and gun kata, because that's one of the coolest and most overlooked features of the sororitas

I prefer the "Went back to the 21st century and made Games Workshop" fan idea

>constant time travel alters your own perception of it
>Veteran Sisters train to actively alter their perception to pull off bullshit dodges and shots
>This can also wear away one's sanity because hay 40k

Bam! Gun Kata Sisters!

>There is a small part in the Cain books where SoB turn from total murder machine to school girl

That would be a telling point if the Cain books were in any way canon.

Good news! That's basically what they exist for.

So time travel progressively makes you into a chronomancer?
I can get behind that, that's an original form of warp corruption.

see pic

What about something like suggested?

Man, if xenos has all the alien tech and hereticus/malleus all the relics, chronos would have all the archeotech.

>Somewhere, an explorator fleet is looking for unusual warp exit signatures, trying to intercept inquisitorial vessels and relieve them of their equipment, by force if necessary.

Why thank you.
I'm actually modelling some Sisters using the Sisters of Silence sprues plus the sallets from the Skitarii kit.

I argue the color scheme should be silver and gold. Brings to mind watches and shit.

Since this is Warp Time Travel.

Blue, red, purple colours seem more reasonable. Maybe even white as in white sand of time.

Could you use the webway as stable time portals?
Apparently time flows differently depending on where you are, so with a decent set of maps you shoud be able to make a path to the past or the future.
You'd have to avoid the Harlequins, though.

Did you just imply that the Ordo Chronos can hack the planet? or in this case hack the webway?

I'm getting an 80's vibe here.

No need to hack anything. Just take the webway roads where time flows in reverse. It's still the immaterium, no matter how tamed. Czevak reappeared in realspace 300 younger after visiting the black library, or and people meet their past or future selves (Daemonifuge II).

At fist I was disappointed to see that the Ordo Chronos didn't have a specific symbol, but then I realized that neither did any of the three major orders.

>You'd have to avoid the Harlequins, though.
maybe
i meam they had to get the maps from somewhere and deals between eldar and inquisition aren't unheard of.
especially if it involves dealing with chaos or necrons.

I like it, but I can't be ass to look up the Latin.

It makes sense - they're not different departments like the Adeptus Astra Telepathica, or the Adeptus Administorium, or something like that. They're all theoretically part of the same body, and I think the fluff has the Ordos not be as much set organizations but amalgamations of Inquisitors with similar interests.

What is your "standard" investigation for Chronos acolytes?

The Time-glass has shattered in the Fando Sector, grab your chronometers and find the distortion and resolve it.

Threats including local time loops, accidental time travel, deliberate time travel, horrors from history leaking through and worst of all glitches in space-time threatening to drag huge sections of space back or even worse forward in time.

Some motherfucker over yonder has broken the timestream over his knee. Go fuck him up and make sure the "correct" timestream still happens as it should happen.

A bit like mixing the Monks in Saffron (No Such Order) from Discworld with Assassin's Creed

>this has lead to the order not existing at during certain incidents

Now that's what attracted me to 40k in the first place: badassery and mind-fuckery on an unimaginable level.

>everything these guys do has to be planned in such a way as to prevent themselves from ever having existed but also keep things in such a way that they are always potentially ready to exist to solve any potential problem their non-existence might cause

Since they do not have the Necron level of time-space-materium technology nor the Eldar understanding of warp.

The Ordo Chronos deals with research, containment, damage control, and prevention.

Unless the accident where the entire Ordo disappear. Was due to them actually discovering how to proper time dickery. Something like:

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Wait, I am a bit lost here. Did GW fuck with lore for SOBs in the books or something? or did they write something weird for the SOBs.

Imperial Agent has SoB rules.
Usually when a new codex comes out the old one is not valid anymore.

Except according to GW the old digital codex is still valid. GW then said it is not valid, the said it is valid, the same is true for the inquisition codex.

As a result SoB and Inqusition have their respective codex plus the Imperial Agents one. Cherry on IA, AS and Inq are all different factions. So now SoB have two codex.

Along with no plastic, and basically the same non support.

Schrödinger's Sister of Battle. Where born.

Neither dead or alive.

Codex is valid and invalid

Plastic SoB are coming and not

>They don't say at what age, but as soon they stop growing they are thrown into power armour.

Humans stop growing at different ages because we're all quite genetically distinct

So it makes sense for them to wait until genetic or physiological markers indicate they're no longer growing before fashioning the SoB armor for them.

This is the Imperium. Logic and Health are irrelevant. What they most likely do is simply administer drugs to the sisters once they reach a certain age to halt their growth. I garuntee there are 42 yr old Choir Boys who were forced to stop aging at 10 so their voices would stay pretty for singing the Emperors hymns.

This also provides justification for all your filthy perverse SoB /ss/ needs.

Fucking stellar, man.

might be a bump. Might not.

A bump that splits time, present in one reality but absent from another...

The Formation with the crazy Retributor guns still works right?

Yah but they are in the SoB codex and still are Apocalypse only. That formation is absent from the IA SoB.

That is why we are making Schrödinger's Sisters of Battle. Mostly out of spite and making fun of the entire IA and SoB codex situation. If something good and funs comes out from this thread I'll be happy.

Mostly if a decent Colour scheme comes out.

I like the idea of chronostatis suits. Enemy chronomancers freeze time in an area to do their nefarious shit, so Sisters in their bubbles of time go in to kill what needs killing and undo what was done among unmoving statues of people who will never know they were there.
You see something one day you are SURE wasn't like that yesterday? Or five seconds ago? Maybe an Uncertainy Sister didn't put things back quite how they here.

Note that you cannot claim "Uncertainy Sisters moved my keys". Looking at you, Marcus Secundus. It was funny the first time.

Color scheme. Golden armour. With red/purple cloaks/soft armour.

Why? When you have all the time of the world you can take the time to look good. An entire order of pimps. AKA Mistress of Time.

When i look at the wholle Sisters of Battle... thing that GW has been doing for at least the last decade, i wonder why they are so dead set against marketing and selling them.

I mean, it can't be that hard to market hot chicks with guns as an army. Sure, they won't be as popular as the Spess Mehrines, but thats becasue those are the most popular. If you can make sci-fi rainbow elfs, sci-fi emo elves, and blue weedy space commies sell well enough to keep making them, then what the hell is GeeDubs problem with the Sisters?

Honestly we have no idea why. They made Custodes, Sisters of Silence and Genestealer Cult for fuck sake an army that was dead when 3rd edition show up. They even made Necrons and Tau. At least Necron existed in the old lore, same with Kroot.
Kroot are another mystery, they could easily reprint the old Kroot Mercenaries.

Imperial Agent show that GW can simple copy pasted an entire codex and call it a day.

a little old now but at one of the open days one of the devs basically said that they've been on the back burner because no one in the studio has the idea what distinct direction to take the army in coupled with relatively little motivation for working on them.

just make them a flamer and melter based army with cool act of faiths mechanics wtf is so hard about that.

does anybody remeber the very old rumor that GW had problems with the new filigree sisters. they elbows were too thin or something like that and they would brake always.

Are you high? Their models are already man faced trannies.

How would the radical/puritan stuff work for the ordo chronos?
Radical accept to change the past to make the Imperium win ? or simply go back in time to stop changes in the past ?
Puritans trying to undo time changes, or simply prevent them from happening?

>Enemy chronomancers
My family died during the Macharian crusade. I'll go back and destroy him, I'll eradicate him from living memory, leave no remnant of his endeavors, crush utterly his every achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat Macharius can never recover. That is how I will save my family, that is the meaning of victory. Stop me if you dare, Inquisitor.

It doesn't help that the knight archetype is already used a lot by space marines and imperial knights currently. And the religious aspect is used in other faction, like AdMech or Black Templars.
But they still got the Hitlerjugend, Opus Dei and Joan of Arc elements as their own.

What about swis guard like the Vatican?

Silly uniforms, but actual soldiers.

Or go full Argent Shroud. Selfless heroism and altruism. Noble space paladins. Kind of Don Quijote. Crazy yes, but they bring the noble bright in the grim darkness

>Kind of Don Quijote
We already got those before they became BDSM chainsaw wielding zealots.

The 40k equivalent of the swiss guard would be the SoB and the crusaders.

There's still the whole spectrum of wierd monastic orders and cults to explore, but the Arco-flagellants and Death Culrs are a nice start.

The Ecclesiarchy is decently sketched out when they include new fluff like they did in 2003

>Sister looking at you licking her lips
>The look on the two on the side
Things are about to go really good or REALLY bad for you

Isn't there a canonical reference to the Doctor showing up in some old fluff? Like they never outright said it was him but listing off the traits it becomes pretty obvious the 4th Doctor popped in for a visit