SoB demons, probably the last thread

before we go any further, I'll put down the gist of it for any newcomers

>the Emperor ascends to the rank of Chaos God
>Holy Terra and a good space around it is consumed within a massive, Eye of Terror-esque warp storm
>the Black Crusades and other forces of the ruinous powers make a massive push into Imperial territory, conquering incredible swathes of it
>the Imperium begins to hold their ground once they get their shit together again, but they're a fraction of what they were
>compounding matters is that a large number of Imperials have turned traitir, refusing to accept the thong that ate Terra as the Emperor
>infighting eventually divides the Black Crusade claimed space into four "kingdoms", one aligned to each god
>the Daemon Primarchs of each god is the leader of each kingdom
>in response, thd Emperor brings Guilliman to apotheosis as a Daemon Prince to lead the Imperium
>thos event send warp energy through every Ultramarine Librarian mutating them all into horrific shapes; they soon went underground as a secret imperial police of sorts
>the Emperor in the warp may not even be the real Emperor; there are takes all.across the galaxy of a mighty, wise, gilded, yet decaying space marine greater then any other helping those in need with his power and wits

We also need to figure out which chapters turn traitor, and to who.

Can drawanon redraw LIDia, but cuter? I wanna mini-waifu her, but she just looks too weird.

>she just looks too weird
you coward, you pansy of a man
a real man would waifu far stranger then her

faggot

Yes.

Would the Eldar be in a different situation since 40K, since a lot of time has probably passed?

What about the Tau or the Orks?

Guy offering to make the 1d4chan page here, to be honest I was mostly going to focus on the angels and not so much the rest of the setting when writing up the page, I was asleep through most of that discussion and not sure I really followed it

I'm not sure we have an actual time frame of things here, not sure the Orks or Tau would care though, other than thinking the Humans have a new type of unit being fielded, Eldar might be full blown panicking if they see this as early signs of humanity's equivalent of their fall

>Tau
Extinct or on the brink of extinction. Having the Chaos Imperium get shit together and declare a full scale crusade against them will do that to a species.

Honestly, if that happened ai think all of the lower-numbered races would be screwed, even the Eldar. If humanity got its shit together, AND had a chaos god backing them, they'd be a steamroller.

Not only that, it's not just one god.
Emps is part of Chaos Undivided now they have the other 4 behind them when things get really serious.

>Emps is part of Chaos Undivided now
Not sure about this part, have trouble buying a god who's adamant about "FUCK CHAOS" would join chaos

Agreed. Even if he's a Chaos god, humanity doesn't believe he's a Chaos god. They'd still be against the Ruinous Powers.

I mean I see him as a warp entity, but one of Chaos? Hell no, honestly probably something closer to Gork+Mork or the Hivemind than Chaos, a psionic being made of the faith of humanity gone cancerous and feeding on itself in the warp and "FUCK CHAOS" is a major part of said faith

to be fair, it's not like chaos isn't already at war with itself.
a "FUCK CHAOS" god would fit right in, since it would be "FUCK CHAOS, but what we do is okay", which is what the other gods do as well.

He probably wouldn't "join" chaos, but he would probably learn to tolerate the rubbing of shoulders every once in a while.

Like, say an Ork Waagh attacks the borders between the Imperium and the kingdom of Khorne; they'll probably band together for a bit to take them out before going back to killing each other. Kind of like how the Black Crusades only happened because the followers of the 4 existing gods all had the same goal. Once a crusade ends, you can bet your ass that all the CSM who participated immediately have knifes to each other's throats.

Eh, not really?
I mean this is above and beyond typical chaos being opposed to chaos shit, like Malal or Necho levels "FUCK CHAOS", this isn't on the level of the other big four where Tzeentch is against Nurgle cause one is born of hope and one is born of despair, the Emperor as a God would be born of FUCK CHAOS in the same way, and at best would be violently opposed to being lumped in with the others, actually trying to use him as part of Chaos Undivided would either earn you a smiting or get you on his shit list

Why an Angler fish tho?

Is this some oblique God Emperor of Dune reference?

Initial idea involved them having aspects of deep sea creatures, I think we've dropped that for the most part, personally I think they should mostly be glorifying the human form instead of having animalistic traits worked in

Nah, the initial broad strokes involved SoB Daemons being based around Deep Sea FREAKY Life. That was eventually called stupid and led to the Greater Daemon, The Ebon Avenger.

I suppose we could rule that Lesser & Greater Daemons having different aesthetics depending on which "Order" they belonged to.

Daemon Steeds/Beasts belong to everyone who the Soach-Emperor believes worthy.

Deamon Primarchs/Princes rule their Chapter/Order respectively.

P.S. Fuck the fish-speakers.

I personally think that the more explicit "FUCK CHAOS" role Is better served by the traitor Imperials who broke off after Emps aacended.
It could be a nice foil if the Traitor Imperials played up the more military parts of the Imperium while those who stayed with God Emps have the religious parts played up, so we have a faction even more warp hating then the Canon Imperium, while the Emperor worshippers are far more like a mix between the Inquisition and a chaos cult to show that they're beggining to fall to the same kind of corruptions every other worshipper of the Ruinous Powers does.

Eh, I'd say the fishface can stay in, albeit as one of the extreme variations their 'armor' may have, I've said this earlier but I'd consider the current art for the lesser angel to be the high end of how armored and nonhuman like they'd look, most lesser angels would look closer to your typical SoB in my opinion, albeit melded into their armor to the point you can't really tell how much is armor and how much is skin

I still don't buy a warp entity born of the most faithful members of the imperial creed EVER considering working with chaos, the Emperor (or whatever it is that was born of their faith) is a GOD, calling him a chaos god though would be blasphemy of the highest order

Seconded. My personal take on the Chaos-Emperor is that he's able and willing to still the entire warp and live on solely within the hearts and minds of his Imperial Cult. Whereas Chaos generally isn't. Malal doesn't count since he's an essential balancing mechanism of Chaos.

I'm going to come forth and say that on terms of names, I think that we should call the Imperial Guard daemons Hatemarchers and the SoB daemons Paragons.

Give me a name for Adeptus Mechanicus Daemons and I'll support you.

Thirded. When the entire platform of the Ecclesiarchy is "FUCK CHAOS AND XENOS" I can't see the resulting god haveing any tolerance of chaos.

Ooo, Paragons is nice.

Paragons, Hate marchers, Canonizers, and .... can't think of Mechanicus.

We should orobably.think of what the Omnissiah's daemons would be lie before we think of names, in my opinion.

On that topic, I can see the minor daemons being humanoids made purely of tubes and various mechantrides, along with a cluster of glowing red mechanical eyes.

I presume most Mechanicus were unable to accept the reality of the God-Emperor Ascendant and rebelled, being purged and ejected from Heaven. Those who could were effectively superfluous. Minor, still-mortal, techpriests were still around to repair and fix stuff, but with Mar's monopoly on technology shattered, there's no niche for them.

Most have gone on to re-learn how to talk to the Machine Spirits that manifested themselves on occasion. This tends to take the form of offering detailing work to the chassis they inhabit, or providing them transport to another chassis.

Seriously though, what the fuck do the Daemon Mechanicus do in the Emperor's Heaven?

Techne?

>Seriously though, what the fuck do the Daemon Mechanicus do in the Emperor's Heaven?
My idea was that somehow, the entire planet of Mars managed to escape the Emperor's birth, and that it took most of the techpriests with it. Since the Mechanics would at that point be a truly seperation entity from the Imperium, the Omnissiah's daemons probably aren't in the Emperor's domain at all, instead having their own warpspace where the Cult's tech love ends up.

I'd say the Grey Knights fucked the nope right out of there the instant they saw the Eye of Terra open up. They lost a lot of good shit when their home-base blew up.
I'd fluff them as Marines Errant. Those who were meant to save the Imperium of Man from the threat of Chaos have failed utterly. Their only atonement lies in educating the Imperial remnants of humanity that continue to resist the filth that the Human Empire has become in how to more effectively fight Daemons.
These are practical things like: how to make holy incense, symbols of holy warding, Anti-Daemonic Engravings; applicable to buildings and armor, anointing weapons in sanctified oils, etc. And all without breaking the bank.

General reminder for whoever concerns themselves with /u/
Immaculate conception is a thing. And may even be required if the mortal population is decimated as it may be. Imagine it, parthenogenesis from an Angel's touch. Though they'd be blanks for sure. No soul of their own except for whatever part of herself the Angel deigns to gift.

I'd suggest my idea from the last thread of vaguely reptilian skeletal machines
Though personally I'm not too sold on the idea of Mechanicus demons, I'd probably have either them in the background, mostly the same as always or have machine spirits get MAJOR boosts

>Immaculate conception is a thing. And may even be required if the mortal population is decimated as it may be. Imagine it, parthenogenesis from an Angel's touch. Though they'd be blanks for sure. No soul of their own except for whatever part of herself the Angel deigns to gift.
Not sure I like the idea of them being blanks even if it makes sense, though if you treat it as cloning I'm pretty sure in 40K clones have souls, they just also have real shit luck

On the other hand if there are a lot more blanks they may end up the foot soldiers while the actual souled humans are herded into the SoB/ministorum

God, that thing looks just plain retarded.

Seconded. Instead of Machine Spirits being the face of anthropomorphisations of mechanical problems and quirks, have them be literal Daemons Spirits in the Machine. Which need to be appeased and bribed and threatened as needed.
Most small things like drills don't need much appeasement, though the bigger shit like spaceships now need more prayer strips and ointments than before.
The best thing to happen is that the Spirits now have more reason to protect their shell than ever before, and sacrifice it if provided with enough... encouragement.
i.e. An automatic drill will not shake as much if it is given gilding along it's outsides.
i.e. A Spirit which has "grown up" with tales of the Omnissiah and how great it is to give of oneself in the path of praising him will be willing to kamikaze itself; sometimes when it is not warranted nor wanted.

>Extinct or on the brink of extinction
I see this thread is determined to make this concept as Mary Sue as possible.

That's probably why everyone abandoned the concept

>have trouble buying a god who's adamant about "FUCK CHAOS" would join chaos
You mean like Malal?
>the Warp Emperor corrupting mankind's forces into daenmons is just Malal in disguise
I kinda like it

The Chaos Imperium is carved into 5 Empires of Chaos, and fucktillion worlds of Humanity trying to just fucking survive.
The Tau would be having a fuck orgy over how easy it is to expand now that humanity has eased off. Hell, they'll have so much gue'la that there might even be trouble brewing about how they outnumber the core Tau on far too many worlds.

This could be a good way to show that the Tau's Greater Good only works when presented with a clear goal/present enemy. Show the break-down of the Tau Empire as underhanded Socialists and Communists try to make their own interpretation of The Greater Good.

Except that they have literal mind control worms to keep their shit running, as well as ememes like Orks and Farsight to keep the propaganda train a rollin

Well, shit.

Bumumump

>thong

>The Golden Throne is failing.
>People are losing their shit as the Astronomicon flickers and fades.
>Biggy E is holding on as hard as he can, but to no avail. He can't power the beacon, and neither can he remove himself from the Throne.
>When out of the darkness comes Malal!
>A deal is cut between Biggy E and MAL-al.
>Malal is going to cull every single life-force on Terra, and the Emperor is going to let him.
>Malal will then pour that energy into the Emperor and he will hold the beacon until someone comes along and restarts the soul-feeding/throne-repairing.
>The Emperor continues fighting against Chaos and Malal has fucked with yet another godly entity. Everyone wins!
>Except the Emperor takes the collective life-force of the devout on Terra (along with some dregs) including his Companions, and uses the the collective energy to open the Eye of Terra!
>Within this half-real, half-immaterial realm the Emperor, buoyed by an entire world's worth of souls begins constructing a Chaos God-Entity based upon himself, having finally given up on his original plan and instead hoping a literal god will help guide the Imperium better than he could.
>Malal, being the little shit he is decides he wants in. And by in I mean he tears himself apart and sneaks part of himself into the soulmass of humanity being used to create the Emperor Ascendant. Hoping that he can better destroy Chaos by puppeting humanity directly.
>Emperor reminds Malal of the sanctity of consent, Malal says he hasn't heard of it, and so the Emperor Ascendant is born torn between two godly beings, one lesser and one greater, aye, but godly nonetheless.
>Now the remains of Malal think he truly is the Emperor and that the "real" Malal was purged and destroyed in his creation.
>The real Emperor was BTFO to some backwater Imperial world.

This is pretty good

>1d4cancer

What should the speeds be called?

I would imagine that the fate of the Ad Mech would depend a lot on whether the Void Dragon really is buried on Mars.

What?

>we should probably think of what the Omnissiah's daemons would be like

The steeds, I meant to say.

Can't go wrong with a little Latin-based taxonomy.

My vote goes for "Equidae."

The Void Dragon woke up, sucked the souls of everyone on mars out through their cybernetic implants as an after-nap snack, then left the solar system, taking mars and its industrial power and soulless former techpriest labor force with it.

It wants revenge on the necrons for what they did to the other C'tan.

>Eldar's face when they witness a new Eye of Terror form around Holy Terra
This is hardly the first time they've seen a new god appear and ruin everything.

I don't think they'd have a calm reaction to it though

Oh
That sound wicked

No. But there's going to be that one cult of Eldar that are going to be full of "I FUCKING TOLD YOU." Then start explaining their plan to destroy the Empire of Man and during this period.

Others will see this as a way of getting the more moderate i.e. the ones who don't want to kill all non-humans eventually, on their side.

I'd see them employed a lot more as Traders, crossing the divisions between the many Empires that pop up to continue the flow of materials that sustain each world.

P.S. Fuck happened to the Rogue Traders?

Another bump before these threads are considered dead and compilation will begin in earnest.

1d4chan soon?

Maybe.

I will say that we need to decide on what the beasts are before we start on it, though.
I like the idea of them being armored gorilla ladies made from abhumans, personally.

>armored gorilla ladies
I really can't see how that would be anything but ridiculous.

I'd prefer the Imperial chaos beasts to be Greek-style winged sphinxes, possibly with the wings being golden/mechanic and inspired by the look of the wings on the Aquila symbol.

Seconded.

>sphinx tits
Why didn't the Egyptians think of this?

>P.S. Fuck happened to the Rogue Traders?
I'd imagine they would ally together and form a wholly space-based human faction, perhaps taking on a role among the fragmented remains of the Imperium similar to the Spacing Guild in the Dune series.

That's perfect actually

I'll draw that at some point. Open the 1d4 page with appropriate descriptions. I'll add art in time.

Give the a rocking rack

My bad, had less free time last night than I thought, will get it up sometime tonight though unless someone else does

>I'd prefer the Imperial chaos beasts to be Greek-style winged sphinxes, possibly with the wings being golden/mechanic and inspired by the look of the wings on the Aquila symbol.
That's pretty nice actually

Only if the Imperial Sphinx has a riddle it asks before dismembering the unfaithful.

>Riddle
>"ARE YOU A FUCKING HERETIC?
If they answer yes, time to purge the heritic
If they answer no, he's wrong, time to di

"Do you want to be dismembered, shot or set on fire?"

>Failure to answer means all thee at once.

"What's eternally holy and shines with golden light?"

The correct answer is the Emperor, of course. Any other answer gets death. Except for "your tits," which is technically a correct answer and will earn you a disapproving frown but you will be spared.

>Not it earning you instead death by death by tits, death by mauling, or death by snu snu depending on her mood, or a free pass to show her your devotion to all things holy if she's in a really good mood

>Mechanicron Mars being made into a C'tan super weapon to fuck Necron shit up.
>Emprah realizes if he doesn't put a stop to that shit his Void Puppy will nom on the remaining C'tan and basically go super C'tan 2.

Probably still doing what they always do
Take advantage of shit for their own benefit

Hogg nhhhnnnn kgbb

All of these are good

>Sparing a heretic
A loyal citizen maybe, but a heretic? No

Whelp, we have a page now
1d4chan.org/wiki/Warped_Angels
Just pics so far but I'll be adding some stuff before bed
A heads up I am BAD at explaining shit so I'll probably just limit it to the basic details and what I hashed out, if anyone else wants to add stuff or clean it up once I'm done go ahead

Shits almost done
Let's get it all the way there

Took a break to eat, will add fluff once done, when ahead and named the lesser angels the canonized if no one else minds, still looking for a name for the beasts though,

Basics of lesser angels added, I leave it to you all to critique/review/edit my sleepdeprived interpretation of them
Adding Ebon Avenger and Angelic beast stuff next, don't have anywhere near as much stuff for them though

Heads up also, I'm leaving out the setting details, I didn't really follow that line of the conversation do not sure can do it right

Ebon avenger added, not too sure what to do for the fluff on the beasts actually, may just go with the sphinxes, I liked them, probably just a description, not sure how to handle the riddle and what not

Done, got lazy with the fluff for the beasts, it's late and I'm going to bed, someone else take over

What was he trying to say?

We still need entries on the general backstory, the actual Emperor being replaced by the fifth chaos god formed in his image then becoming an Odin figure and the Void Dragon stealing mars.

A weakened shard of the Void Dragon ended up on Earth in the middle Ages. It preyed on the kingdoms of man and demanded sacrifices of virgin princesses to be given to it.

The Emperor in the guise of a knight battled the Shard and defeated it. He realized that destroying the Dragon was something beyond his power so he envisioned another use for it.

He teleported to Mars and bond the Dragon there. Speed forward thousands of years later, the Martian colonist would be influenced by the dreams of the sleeping Star God hidden in their new home.

>This was all part of the Emperor's plan all along. Somehow.

The line between a heretic and a loyalist gets pretty blurry when the Emperor has become a chaos god.

What about an ordinary Imperial citizen who fights against the daemons of the Emperor because he's spent his entire life being told that anything to do with Chaos is evil and must be purged? His intentions are pure, and he doesn't understand that he's resisting the Emperor's will.

What about straight-up Chaos worshipers who have converted to the cult of the Ascended Emperor instead of one of the other four gods? Their faith in Big E is true, but they're obviously evil cultists.

>What about an ordinary Imperial citizen who fights against the daemons of the Emperor because he's spent his entire life being told that anything to do with Chaos is evil and must be purged? His intentions are pure, and he doesn't understand that he's resisting the Emperor's will.
>he's resisting the Emperor's will.
>resisting the Emperor's will.
He's fucked
Best case literally, albeit as pointed out, death by snu snu

>What about straight-up Chaos worshipers who have converted to the cult of the Ascended Emperor instead of one of the other four gods? Their faith in Big E is true, but they're obviously evil cultists.
>Worshiped the chaos gods
>Tries to change sides
He ladycatfood, riddle he gets is Hereticsayswhat?