What would the imperium use against the tenno?
What would the imperium use against the tenno?
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Numbers. Tenno are amazing infiltrators, assassins and saboteurs. They're not set up to fight wars.
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Guns.
A thought, are Tenno heretical? They're human, but they use biotech. Fight corruption but are themselves touched by the Void.
Cephalons are either the worst tech-heresy or angels of the omnissiah though.
Is Warframe actually good yet, or is it still a nauseatingly floaty grindfest?
Warframes themselves a probably heretical, even if Tenno somehow aren't.
Corruption of the human form. Heretical.
...
It's less floaty, but it's still a grindfest. It is F2P after all. The fan base seems to forget that a lot.
Tell that to the Navigators. And the Space Marines. And the Mechanicus. And a lot of Inquisitors.
Why the fuck would you ever think warframe might have gotten good
Navigators are a necessary evil, Space Marines are created by the emperor so that doesnt count, and the admech are not imperial subjects and do not corrupt their form (they just replace parts with machinery).
I didnt. I just had to ask. It such a shame too. Its a vacuum of talent. It was made by the people who did the original Bioshock and UT, and the art direction was done by one of my favorite artists. Somehow they made a game that both plays and looks like trash.
It seems like they just can't into environment design. All the actors look good, but all the places are so boring.
Anyway, the Tenno are psykers of considerable power and questionable control. They'd be preposterously dangerous to be around in 40k. It's somewhat questionable if the Imperium would think it worth the risks to have them around.
The Warframes themselves are very different form basically any tech in 40k, which might make some of the more radical elements happy, but mainstream Adeptus Mechanicus would probably consider them in need of very extensive study before the tech could (potentially) be declared safe to use. Of course, the connection there may be to the infested could also end up making it all considered an example of why you must be extremely careful with technology, as the infested plague can spring from the technological basis of the warframes (maybe not easily, but once you have a malevolent warp entity dropping hints and playing muse...)
Or...
Another approach to Tenno in 40k is that, well, that's pretty much aspect warriors.
>are Tenno heretical
Pic related.
Cephalon are full AI, which is right up at the very top of the Adeptus Mechanicus' Kill on Sight-list. One Iron Man Rebellion was enough, thankyouverymuch.
which artist?
turns out cephalons are just uploaded human minds
Because numbers work against Tenno.
They'd just use the navy to destroy their shitty little ships and their space stations. Also they'd probably use psykers to go after the operators or disrupt their link.
Tenno ships are apparently stupidly stealthy, given the Grineer can't seem to get rid of them either and they can fly right up to them.
Disrupting the link just leaves the Warframe to gain free will. What do you think the Stalker is?
Keith Thompson. Really cool guy. Has a really inspired vision of how to blend the mechanical and the biological, and a great sense of the uncanny. You can actually see his influence in Warframe, it just looks like liquid shit.
I disagree. I think that the only redeemable thing are a few of the environments (last time I played, anyway) and i think the enemies are some of the ugliest in any game Ive ever played. The Grineer especially are just so terrible looking, and not in a good way, and it doesnt help that their animations have no weight which makes them look like their armor is filled with nothing but insulation foam.
>uploaded human minds
Thou shalt not disfigure the human soul.
tenno dont fight in open confrontations against large armies
AND
they dont have a centralized base or ship , they all operate from their own
basically the the imperium could only use the inquisition vs them, and that might work
ahhyeah, he does good stuff
See, that looks so much cooler than its incarnation in the actual game.
For some reason the aesthetics of the warframes and the game in general leave me queasy and disgusted. Does anyone else have this issue?
The second dream will forever be a stain of my memory
All the stuff IgnusDei did for the skins looks way better than the other stuff in game too.
It's been Space Kids since at least three years ago when the Lariman was first brought up.
You would not like the War Whiten then
I was fine with the kid thing but seriously that fucking story mission I wanted to kill my kid avatar.
I really wanted the tenno to be humans trapped in bio armor
The floaty physics, controls, and animations combined with the flat muted colors make everything feel dreamlike in all the wrong ways. Playing warframe feels like one of those minor nightmares where you're trying to run but can only move at a walking pace. The severe and unending grind only attenuates that feeling of Sisyphean dread.
Warframe is the only game who's fans I genuinely believe have something utterly irreconcilable gone wrong in their brain.
The same thing it uses against everything else: numbers, lasfire, and bolters. If that doesn't work, Exterminatus.
They terrifying thing is they still are that. The bio armor is just their entire bodies. Somewhere trapped inside every warframe is an entire human being, but it's been hijacked by the technocyte and then puppeted by some kid in a pod.
It's not even that, the armor designs on their own just make me feel like I've swallowed a dozen eels and they're all trying to crawl back out. What alarms me is I don't even flinch at most of the fucked up shit from the heyday of /b/ back when it was legitimately fucked up over there but this shit makes me want to vom.
I don't wanna call it bad art, there's a lot of care and attention there and I wouldn't call the art directors lacking in talent. The designs are just nauseating in ways I can't even comprehend.
Does Keith Thompson's other art make you feel that way? If it does, thats kindof the point.
I've got no idea what you lot are going on about with the art.
>armor is filled with nothing but insulation foam.
Wouldn't be too surprised if this was actually the case.
The problem with the environments is that it doesn't mesh with the games movement system at all, even when they were trying to design tiles with the parkour in mind. When we had coptering we could at least say it was a bug that broke the system. Now we just bullet jump through everything. Orokin secret rooms for example, they look great but are functionally broken. Every door has some kind of lip that is easy to get stuck on if you are trying to move through a map with any kind of speed.
In a 40k setting I imagine they would be employed by rogue traders. Tenno will do just about anything for anyone provided they are payed for their service and get to loot everything that isn't nailed down.
I think you know
that or the schola progenium
er... It's Ok,
Right up to the point you are forcibly reminded that it's F2P
yep, and they just fired the dude because he protested the lead artist fucking over the ember deluxe skin concept with knifehead and other retarded changes.
Looking at his website no, this stuff is neat but it doesn't really sicken me at all.
It's just this whole "creepy bio-armor nonsense ninjas that look like they're perpetually covered in lubricant" bit that's fucking me up.
I like my gun slinger waifu
I don even play the game I cant get into it but I like some of frames
bribery
>employed by rogue traders.
>Tenno will do just about anything for anyone provided they are payed for their service and get to loot everything that isn't nailed down.
this
anything but potatokids
Would a Warframe be a match for the Eldar?
The knife head just seems supremely stupid. I get the arm changes because things being too pointy in game can look kinda spindly, but the head just boggles the mind.
I would pay good money to watch a team of Tenno vs. a team of pic related
>Anyway, the Tenno are psykers of considerable power and questionable control.
The Assasorium would have a field day then with the Culexus. Problem solved.
Why does Warframe have so much futa porn?
Being stuck in a robot suit means you can attach all the dicks you want.
Because warframes are inherently mutable, and therefore futas make slightly more sense.
because futa is a pervasive plebian perversion
>Futa
>Plebian
i was more under the impression the warframe was a bilogical construct that can think if the tenno didnt control it
Naw, the original warframes were people totally overtaken by the technocyte virus. They build them from scratch now, but it's still basically just a corrupted human clone. The consciousness is always there, it's just pushed into the corner at all times.
posting everything but her amazing spurs and gamashes....
i can kinda understand the knifehead since the chicken head is iconic for ember
I'm surprised nobody has posted Warframe butts yet
>Anyway, the Tenno are psykers
THIS
A pariah tackles the Warframe, an Inquisitor tracks down the Operator and feeds him/her to the Astronomicon.
If the Space Wolves aren't psykers, I don't think the Tenno would be either.
>they dont have a centralized base or ship
Except the one where they have all their bodies controlling the warframes.
>all their bodies
YOU MEAN 1?
because thats how many "operator" bodies a single ship has, fucking 1. there are thousands of tennos!
What's with the ghost boner?
That's assuming we're talking about tenno after The Second Dream.
Thats a brilliant idea. Lets track down a psyker who can pilot a body from across a solar system, that can in no way ever backfire ever.
The Moon is literally in the Warp/Void for the time being though, so it's unlikely the Imperium would ever find it.
You suggesting the Imperium should just let psykers capable of piloting bodies across a solar system to roam free?
Planet full of powerful psykers communicating with their host bodies. Should leave some sort of signature to follow, if you're out looking for it. Or just let daemons deal with it.
And after The Second Dream, each orbiter destroyed is a tenno destroyed. Before that getting your ship and/or body destroyed just mean you had to get a new ship and/or body. But with the operator physically on the ship, wiping it out will mean that tenno will never come back.
Still, there'd be almost no way to track them. The Grineer and Corpus have been trying for potentially hundreds of years and haven't got shit to show for it. They're both more technologically advanced than the Imperium as it is. The tenno are very good at not being found apparently.
Do the Grineer or Corpus have psykers?
No, but neither do the Tenno. They both have a pretty good understanding of the Void though.
>They're both more technologically advanced
grineer are WHAT?!
>They're both more technologically advanced than the Imperium as it is.
How? We still haven't seen any Imperial-tech level feats of the Corpus, and certainly not of the Grineer.
Yes and no, Vor certainly had something going on with his void key.
But they use orokin tech to manipulate void energy rather than being infused with it like a Tenno. They can do stuff with psyker/void energy but are themselves -barring exceedingly rare exceptions- not about to start throwing lightning bolts.
This is assuming that Void and Warp are the same thing. The Void might be a distinct entity. We certainly haven't seen any void daemons.
The Corpus make shit loads of stable plasma weapons.
The Void seems pretty much empty, but is also full of crazy magic radiation or something.
>Grineer
>Corpus
>more technologically advanced
M8
Pic related
So does the Imperium. Plasma weapons blowing up is just a mechanic added to the tabletop to speed things up. Go play a plasmagunner in a 40k RPG system, or dig up the oldschool rulebooks where plasmagunners could adjust the strength of their shots from does-fuck-all to overcharge.
I think the Void/Warp question is the main decided for the Imperium's relation with the Origin system. If they're the same thing. Tenno are destroyed aside from samples or those who run, hide or pledge themselves to RT and the like.
If the two weird space realms are different.. then the Tenno suddenly jump up in viability. The Assassinorum creams their pants at stealth orbiters and unpredictable high speed ninjas with gun wings.
Either way, after being 'pacified', the Corpus make for perfect Mechanics converts. They already are aside from the lack of Omnissiah and colour scheme.
Grineer IG regiments sound pretty likely too. Doubt any general would even notice they were unusual. Compared to a lot of other regiments, a well drilled and capable cloned army with insectoid armor is pretty ordinary. Odd low Gothic dialect, but whatever.
Again, the Imperium can make stable plasma. It's just kind of shit as their laser and conventional weaponry is as good as or exceeds it at a lower cost.
Plasma is notable in that it can be more destructive than comparable weapons at the cost of instability.
If we're going to crash two universes together, we need to find some common ground, such as melding Void and Warp somehow. Or we can keep both parties working on their own rules, at which point we also have to face the fact that we don't know how well psykers can affect or track the tenno, since nobody in the Warframe universe has psykers or anything to do with the warp, so there's no counters to that.
Hell, do like they did in one story, where the Inquisition ambushed some Necrons and fired a psychic bolt into one of them before they phased out. Then used a psyker to track the bolt and find the tomb, to which they teleported to and set up us the bomb. The tenno wouldn't know the bolt lodged in their body is a tracking device, since it's not transmitting anything they could detect.
Quite frankly, I'm not a fan of this remote operated tenno idea in the game. I liked the Dark Sector style where it's a biomechanical symbiotic suit thing with tacticool webbing and such.
If you can convince the Corpus that profit is the actually the Machine God. If not, then they just turn into a really weird rogue traders.
>implying the entire history of Warframe isn't taking place right in the Age of Strife
IT
ALL
FITS
It's both though. Tenno could theoretically operate on their own, but they're berserk animals.
Also, how would the Imperium deal with technocyte anyway?
Well, most of them. The Stalker seems to be a non-controlled Warframe.
The plasma instability has reached peak grimderp in Munitorum, where you need a techpriest and several hours of careful work to even reload them.
Gets Hot! should just make the gun unable to fire the next turn. Or make the weapon unusable for the rest of the game tops, but let the operator fire other weapons or just tank hits, if nothing else.
Except it can't. Shit like the Plasma armed Leman Russ is specifically stated to be almost irreplaceable, with only one forge world able to make them. And that Forge World has been under siege for a couple centuries too.
>Also, how would the Imperium deal with technocyte anyway?
Same way as something like Nurgle's Rot: Nuke from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
That would slow the game down.
Post 2nd Edition, 40k really tried to make combat fast and generic with little details.
One advantage. Technocyte is merely technological, it is not magical in nature like Nurgle's Rot.
Doesn't technocyte do Void stuff?
Honestly, either works. Knowing the Corpus they'll split and do both. Some chasing after profit, some chasing after industry.
Meanwhile Clem finally reaches Mastery 1.
>That would slow the game down.
How? Nothing changes, except you don't roll a save against a wound, just mark down that their gun is unable to fire the next turn/the rest of the game.
>Technocyte is merely technological, it is not magical
>thinking people in 40k see a distinction
You're not fooling anyone with your heresies. Sisters, lend me your blood, I must paint my armour in order to fight this warp spawned virus!
Well, in that case people would have to exchange their mini for an identical mini with a different weapon, or whiny wankers would complain.
>inb4 techpriests manage to reverse-engineer technocyte and in order to unify mankind with the omnisiah they infect everyone with it
You/We/I/Mankind are all one in the OMNISIAH. You/We/I/Mankind will crush all before us.
>and then mankind was a biomechanical hivemind
I'd personally compare the Warframes to high tier eldar / astartes characters, with less potent space magic.Given how the Warframes are usually operated, most 40k factions are going to have trouble nailing them down and even if they bust up a Warframe, the Operator can just 3d print another.
So the IoM would probably end up massing a lot of bodies at key points that the Tenno would target and hope to keep them from succeeding. Which would be a pain because Tenno excel at sneaking around and running the days of anything guarding key targets.
Just grab some counters and plop one on the relevant dude to indicate overheat.
Starving the Tenno of resources seems like a good course of action. They need Syndicate backing and to loot from their enemies.
Don't think there's such a thing as a Tenno mine or farm. Though they might tax colonies for their protection.
Not really, I mean, if a tank fires its HK missile, do you need to remove the tank and replace it with a tank without the HK missile? Or do you remove bladestorming avengers? Just mark the model with a token or something that it's weapon is out of action.
Given that the Tenno can just steal resources from whomever they fight in order to maintain balance, and add in that they'd be extremely hard to track and predict, I don't think that starving the Tenno of resources is something that can be done.
Also Syndicates and such can just be replaced by a number of groups within the 40k universe. Even with just human factions you've got rogue traders and radical inquisitors that would be willing to work with Tenno. Hell I could see Craftworlds, the Tau and maybe even some very enterprising orks being acceptable partners for Tenno, who should be noted as group to not be united in the slightest when it comes to helping out different factions.
All the Imperium needs to do to control the Tenno is produce more annual Platinum than the Lotus does.
HE WHO CONTROLS THE PLATINUM CONTROLS THE TENNO!
PLATINUM AND POTATOES!
MY LOYALTY FOR PLATINUM AND POTATOES!