Tau cheeselord gets BTFO by World Eaters + daemonkin puppers + Cyclopia Cabal KHORNESTAR
Juan Brown
Is that your Steel Legion army? Tell us about this game, how did it go?
Isaac Cruz
It was a custom 16,000 point apocalypse scenario I wrote to try to make the game less of a superheavy slugfest and give lighter units more importance in the early game.
It was fun, but ran into some problems late when I realized it was impossible to make a reserves-based game on this scale - there just isn't enough room on the table edge for reserves to come in after a few turns.
As far as the narrative goes, it was effectively a draw. Orks and Imperium split the objectives 50/50, Imperium had the air Orks had the armor. We had to end it with two turns still to go before the store closed.
Juan Gutierrez
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Bentley Taylor
How much is a warp charge worth? Generally speaking, you can purchase them for 25 pts, but they come attached to tax units. So what kind of units should I be buying to get lots of warp charges?
Brayden Brooks
sorry for ruining last thread >Twin-linked Devourers with Brainleech Worms will have rending next edition >>nothing else changes
Julian Sullivan
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Angel Diaz
It you want a psychic based army just commit to it. Every unit should be giving you warp charges or be something you are going to buff with warp charges.
Owen Scott
could somebody provide the post where Reziel said about plastic SoB?
and the user who said he lost his job?
Jayden Murphy
Statistically, Magnus's points in hydras (that is to say, 9 of the bloody things) should blow him out of the sky in a single turn (well, 6.75 wounds vs the 7 on his profile). Where you get 9 hydra models, or what you do with them afterwards, is your problem however.
Jaxon Jenkins
I want to make an army that focuses on leadership. Slaaneshi psykers can give me a lot of good penalties for low leadership.
Eli Cooper
You could mass aircraft. They get full BS against air targets but aren't left looking retarded when the sky is clear.
Jaxson Gray
Night Lord Decurion with Hellturkey formation and an allied Slaanesh Cycloptian cabal. Maybe throw in some Dark eldar or Harlequins.
Parker James
It's a nice idea, but please bear in mind that the majority of armies in the game either have ATSKNF or Fearless.
Ethan Sanchez
Looks good. How long did the game take to play?
Oliver Lee
Forgive me if I am being stupid guys, but where does the game lay out what counts as a sonic weapon and what doesn't for Kakophoni formation bonuses?
And stuff like the new symphony of pain spell.
Like, I get the sonic blaster, blastmaster, and the doom siren, but what about the 'sonic' witch fires on the slaanesh discipline? We haven't been counting them as sonic weapons, but I wanna make sure we aren't shorting my mate.
Benjamin James
from 11am until 10pm
Tyler Jackson
>one-shot magnus with hellfrost >everyone talking like this is the space wolves pulling off a stunning victory >These are the fucking rules writers
So this is why chaos/orks are always shit
Dominic Martin
What's the of worshiping Khorne? The other Gods give all sorts of superpowers while he only seems to make you angry and retarded.
Justin Hall
Sonic weapons are Sonic Blasters, Blastmasters and Doom Sirens.
Dylan Myers
>Tsons about to be tabled t3 >b-buy our stuff, they're good
Nathaniel Evans
Kakophoni formation doesn't include a psyker anyway, I thought.
Dominic Adams
its a core choice for the new rapture battalion for emperors children, and you can take lords of the legion to get sorcs
Dylan Sanchez
I think that is the thing about worshipping khorne that is really unique from the other gods. 'Zerks are really just there for the glory.
Leo Moore
Only the Kakophoni get the sonic weapons bonuses though, right?
Bentley Cox
Khorne's blessing is essentially supernatural martial skill. You worship Khorne if you want to be the warriorest warrior who ever warriored.
Asher Perez
Yes. But who cares?
Elijah Cox
Fearless and atsknf don't make people immune to leadership debuffs do they?
Camden Edwards
I was in the restroom when that happened. What exactly happened? How did that guy roll to get him killed?
Jaxon Bailey
I just had the following conversation with my Wife
Babe? >Yeah? You know that Games Workshop stuff you were gonna get me for Christmas >Yeah Did you get it yet? >No, this weekend Don't bother
I asked Santa for some 1KS... never fucking mind
Ian Campbell
That should happen if you take Magnus and he gets owned.
Camden Lopez
Helfrost. It has about 5% chance to remove him from play. Twitch is spamming cancer in response
Owen Hernandez
Khorne works a little like Crom in Conan - he values individual strength and expects his followers to rely on themselves and not him. He still has a few boons he offers though, like weapons and artifacts that help limit sorcerors to even the playing field.
He also makes you angry. Like, REALLY fucking angry.
Aaron Anderson
Critical thinking isn't one of your strong points is it?
Jeremiah Lewis
Well at least it's lore accurate
Xavier Campbell
Did the thousand wrongs player not fly magnus?
Kayden Powell
The flying wolfbus scored a lucky wound with his Helfrost Cannon and Magnus rolled a 6 on his toughness test. All told that was about a 3.5% chance of happening.
Fucks sake, guys, we wanted to demonstrate their shitty rules writing and we managed to do it in the opposite direction, and the guy who wrote Magnus' rules is just as happy as the rest.
Andrew Miller
Are you allowed to take the GSC formations outside of the Cult Insurrection Detachment?
I want to run Tyranids with GSC allies (As I don't' have enough of the latter to run them as an army on their own) and was planning on taking the Subterranean Assault formation. However, I'm not sure if you're allowed to take it outside of the Cult Insurrection.
This is probably a stupid question, but I'm new to formations and stuff.
Connor Sullivan
twitch / warhammer
Thousand Sons gonna get tabled before turn 3, lol
Chaos remains fucking garbage compared to the favoured Sons
Aaron Moore
Well, now we know how to kill magnus
Matthew Wood
as long as its not primary and you dont get the bonuses from the decurion you just get the formation rules
Connor Davis
Wonder if the dice are loaded just to prove a point.
I wish to see the most broken and OP armies vs the shitties one. See how the fuck they can defend that bullshit.
Landon Green
The fucking damage control by the commentators
>H-Haha... le Dice Gods >Magnus dying in one shot is why I play this game! >T-This should be FAQ'd hahah... >H-Haha #Ikilledmagnus h-haha
7th edition summed up in a single fucking game.
Jose Lee
Theyre literally talking about how magnus is the only good thing about the Tsons
Why did a Wolf fag write Tsons rules again?
Lincoln Myers
Yeah, I just found in the epub where it lays them out in the armory.
Thanks.
Chase Nguyen
ORKS vs ELDAR
Everyone demand an orks vs eldar bat rep
Kayden Thompson
That's what I figured, thanks!
Chase Green
Yup.
One of the silliest things I've seen in a GSC list is running 2 First Curse formations at once, one from the Insurrection, one standalone, and the Broodlords join the Genestealer units from opposing formations so both are Shrouded on Turn 1.
Kayden Rogers
Now the game is over, with the Thousand Sons being wiped out in Turn 3, they're just memeing and talking about shit...
fuck me
Ian Rodriguez
Imperial Agent SoB no allies or Ork no allies bs Eldar Jetbike scatter laser spam or Wraithknights
Jonathan Russell
>not having faith in the emperor Heretic primarch ID'ed by a flying bus.
Tratior legions status: BLOWN THE FUCK OUT ABSOLUTE, DE-STROY-ED
Joshua Rogers
What? Can I get a quote?
Luke Adams
R8 no h8 Lord goes with bikes and run in the center to buff cultists. Priest goes with a cultist unit that doesn't infiltrate and move fast with mindveil to buff them. Should I change the lord wargear? Add flamers to cultists?
Also any ideas for a lord on bike conversion? I don't like the regular bike models
Isaiah Reyes
Decimus, Prophet of the Night Lords - 225 pts
WS6 BS5 S4 T4 W3 I5 A3 LD10 SV 2+/4++
Warlord Trait:
* One With The Shadows (Re-roll Cover Saves)
Wargear:
* Bolt Pistol * Frag Grenades * Krak Grenades * Malcharion's Bolter (Range: 24", S: 4, AP: 4, Assault 2, Twin-linked) * Stormbolt Plate (2+ Armour Save and +1 to Cover Saves) * The Blade of Angels (Melee, S: User +1, AP: 3, Master-crafted, Rending, Shred, Two-handed)
Special Rules:
* Fear * Fearless * Navigator Blood (Can re-roll Perils of the Warp) * Night Vision * Precognition (like Sigil of Corruption) * Psyker Lvl 2 (only Divination) * Seer (like a Spell Familiar and casts Divination powers on a 3+) * Stealth * Veteran of the Long War
>Remarks
I dropped Champion of Chaos because I think it's Night Lords fluff rape.
Due to my calculations this Character and his Wargear is worth about 270-280 pts but can't be more expensive then Abbadon can we? So I settled for a (fair?) 225 pts. Willing to go higher but compared to other "canon" Lords I think it's fair. He's got normal Chaos Lord stats with great Sorcerous abilities and nifty wargear. But still I'd probably keep him out of combat and rather cast Divination spells, so the cool sword is often wasted.
My goal here is to create a character faithfull to the fluff, not OP for the sake of it and accepted by most non-sperglords.
Tell me what you think. I'm in the process of building him and want to bask in Veeky Forumss wisdom.
Always happy for feedback.
Leo Edwards
>we want a battle of the speediest! >Ork kult of speed vs a fast eldar force >Boyz in trukks and bikes vs scatbikes
Elijah Howard
The guy who wrote the Space Wolf Dex is literally saying he writes rules that only work on "ridiculous sixes" because he hates rolling ones on 2+ saves.
Hell, I like fun rules as much as the next guy, but that's a bit much.
Zachary Flores
Pretty sure that dude from WarhammerTV said that
Benjamin Diaz
Oops, my bad. My memory is a bit shoddy.
Charles Brooks
>chat memeing like the game isn't already over >A-Ahriman can still turn the game around! #internet references #justice4magnus
This is awful, watching this I hoped they would balk at their own shit but instead they're just rolling around in it.
Carson Ross
I dunno if Helfrost itself is the problem so much as how prolific it is. If it were only on a handful of weapon options it wouldn't be so bad but when you can mount them on a flying troop transport's scatter gun it gets a little retarded.
Levi Jones
Aye. My Skitarii have something similar (Init test, but otherwise identical) as a relic CCW that has no AP and is S6 at most, and I've found that nice and balanced. The wolves have it as a special weapon at range on S8AP1 weaponry that can be on flyers.
Nolan Gomez
Fucking hell... they've forgotten a key point of the scenario...
Sorcerers are supposed to explode and they forgot.
This is so shoddy, SO shoddy
Jackson Wright
Do space furries counter space wizards?
Henry Cruz
tabled
turn
3
Juan Lopez
I'm not sure if they were running Death from the Skies, so the wolf bus could hit Magnus normally.
Isaac Brooks
That's what happens when you take a 650 point model to a 1850 point game and lose it to random chance. Now what would have happened if instead there had been 650 more points of terminators/rubric marines/Tzaangors?
Colton Lewis
11 flame templates and 11 large blast WAAAGH!
Robert Cook
Khorne smiled upon this day.
Evan Stewart
>what an amazing game! >well, to everyone who was saying magnus was overpowered I think you have your answer! >but that's what's cool about warhammer, the sheer, awesome, randomness!
Aiden Lee
He still would have lost because 650 points more of terminators is like 10?
John Perez
I have a sneaking suspicion that they told the guy to not use the stuff like Gaze of Magnus. I mean, the Helfrost was insane, but he could have put several D shots into Grimnar and didnt.
Hudson Myers
>THIS IS GOING TO RUIN THE DAY OF EVERYONE WHO PURCHASED MAGNUS XD
>This is why I play Warhammer LOL
>What a great game!
Brand new gleaming army DECIMATED, TABLED before the end of Turn 3.
Just imagine if this actually damaged their sales.
fucking hell
Oliver Davis
On the bright side, the narrative game with Ultramarines vs. Genestealer Cults was much better.
Jacob Green
Who won? I didn't bother watching past XENO BEASTS
Alexander Hernandez
Please tell me they didn't say this.
Christian Phillips
Genestealers.
Julian Roberts
Lord on a Demonic cyborg-horse? WHFB Chaos Knight models are pretty nice.
I think I've already replied to you yesterday, but I'd swap the Helbrute for Havocs w Autocannons and run the Dark Apostle naked, attached to the Havocs. He doesn't get Infiltrate anyhow, a Helbrute without formation bonuses is meh, while Havocs can put out some long range firepower. And I'd give Plasma to the Chosen, while Melta (and combi meltas) to the vanilla CSM.
Luke Young
They said
>What an amazing game >This is really going to upset anyone who purchased Magnus >Magnus isn't overpowered >This is why I play Warhammer for moments like this >Wasn't this amazing >The Dice Gods were cruel!!!!!
Isaac Cox
Veteran of the Long War seems a bit odd, given his age fluff-wise, but I guess it's compulsory if you want to use the NL traitor legion stuff.
Logan Evans
It's fine if you don't plan on the Lord to do much else except buff, and I'm not sure how much good the Helbrute will do you but I get it he's a tax. Overall list looks okay.
Consider running Lost and the Damned with Typhus somewhere in the future, turn all those respawning cultists into plague zombies
Jason Sanchez
>Typhus >In an alpha legion decurion
William White
Even the rule designers and studio staff are waacfag cancer cunts
>I almost bought 12 Assassins >4 Culexus
>I exclusively play 7 droppod SpaceWolves turn 1 deployment zone
Jack Rodriguez
What exactly is your point? What damage is being controlled?
Samuel Parker
#VengeanceForVeronica If anything, GW is just confirming the game is better played casually and for narrative purposes than it is for WAAC
Joseph Moore
well he is Alpharius
Adrian Rogers
Veronica, You glorious Bitch
Alexander Carter
No. Very unlucky dice does. Thats the inevitable consequence when your thing is being expensive and having rerolls.
Eli Richardson
Reposting from the previous thread. Updated my Black Crusade army to Word Bearers. Let me know your thoughts?
++Word Bearers Grand Host [Primary]++ +Chaos Warband+ Sorcerer of Nurgle on Palanquin w/ Force Axe, ML 3, Malefic Tome - 190 [Warlord] Tzeentch Lord on Disc w/ Lightning Claw/Powerfist, Aura of Dark Glory, Scrolls of Magnus and Spell Familiar - 235
5 CSM, Meltagun and Combi-Melta Champ - 95 -Rhino w/ Dirge Caster and Havoc Launcher - 52 5 CSM, Meltagun and Combi-Melta Champ - 95 -Rhino w/ Dirge Caster and Havoc Launcher - 52
3 Terminators w/ Combi-Plasma and Power Axe - 112 3 Terminators w/ Combi-Plasma and Power Axe - 112
3 Bikers of Slaanesh w/ 2 Bike-Mounted Meltaguns and Champ w/ Lance - 111 3 Bikers of Slaanesh w/ 2 Bike-Mounted Meltaguns and Champ w/ Lance - 111
++Daemon CAD++ Disc Herald of Tzeentch w/ ML 2 Paradox, and Exalted Locus of Conjuration - 145 11 Blue Horrors - 55 11 Blue Horrors - 55
Total: 1850
Everything is Word Bearers. My Sorcerer joins a cultist bunker, and my Lord either joins another Cultist unit or the Spawn; the HQs grant Obsec and Crusader, and the Sorcerer can either summon or buff. The Lord took Scrolls so he could be a "backup" Psyker, and I find the spell lottery is fun. I might just drop it for more Spawn though, but meh.
Everything else is MSU and summoning as a means to provide attrition.
Asher Ross
What's more fun? Playing a shooty army or playing a stabby army?
Jack Rodriguez
Eeeeh he might break a vehicle or two. Power fist always comes handy if you are near the enemy Other guy Wouldn't I have more chance of buffing the cultists if I brought two characters in the front? Hope to get the buff warlord trait too... cultists with furious charge, zealot and 6+ fnp? Yes please!
Henry Morales
Oh fuck that's BRILLIANT.
Time to finish my purestrains.
Ryder Reed
Neither
>Play shooty army, sit in one place and dont move, shoot until enemy is dead
>Play choppy army, run towards static gunline and get shot to death and lose
Jayden Brown
So the best option is to play a shooty stabby army?
Carter Brown
But what would constitute this "martial skill"? Speed? Strenght? Resilience? All those are already covered by the other gods.
Jaxson Peterson
I think it's pretty obvious what he meant.
They stopped talking about the game and just started chatting shit.
They stopped talking about the game because the shitty rules meant their new army of the Month got tabled before the end of Turn 3.
It went from a Battle Report to dank memes to avoid the subject matter