Did I break MTG?
Did I break MTG?
Michael Johnson
Charles Hall
Side note: I find it a bit odd that while kill spells are a black/red mechanic, the strongest kill spell in the game is white.
Jeremiah James
user, what turn would one usually win on with this deck do you think?
Ethan Diaz
The first few sets in Magic weren't meant to be balanced, it was made for you to try and find all the cards, and be surprised when you hear about new cool cards. For example, the creators never thought ancestral recall was balanced, it didn't need to be, it was more for the wow factor, that's why there's an initial huge disparity in card quality.
Also, good job and on making an infinite combo, they're always fun. They get better and better, trust me, especially when you accidentally stumble into them. Keep enjoying Magic user, it's a fun game.
Owen Morris
You would need a lot of ways to produce fast mana to break the game with this, but infinite combos are fun.
Henry Perez
Infinite combos aren't new, OP. In fact, they're a major part of Modern's metagame.
Lucas Barnes
You've reached the limits of that particular program. Magic is perfectly fine with those sorts of combinations though. That's not even that nutty for how complex it is. Compare the power achieved from just something like pic related after a few turns.
Turn X: Attach Followed Footsteps to Doubling Season
Turn X+1: Put two Doubling Season tokens onto the battlefield
Turn X+2: Put 2^3=8 Doubling Season tokens onto the battlefield
Turn X+3: Put 2^11=2048 Doubling Season tokens onto the battlefield
Turn X+4: Put 2^2059=6.619e619 Doubling Season tokens onto the battlefield
...
And so on
Ian Thompson
Well, let's see.
(Warning: everything beyond this point assumes that the player is somehow a god of luck and draws the exact card they need on the exact turn they need it. It also assumes that their opponent is somehow completely immobile.)
>I'd say it'd take four turns to get the first Parallel Lives out, then every turn after that drop another. Turn counter: 7
>Take four more turns to get Doubling Seasons out. Turn: 11
>Turn 12, drop an Island and use Progenitor Mimic to copy Doubling Season
>Turn 13, you get 512 doubling seasons. (This is where it gets interesting. It's also where your opponent will probably catch on to what your plan is.)
>Turn 14: Drop one Army of the Damned
>Turn 15: Flashback AoTD
>Turns 16-21: Repeat turns 14 and 15 for the next three AoTD copies.
>Turn 22: Attack with all of your tokens. Even the copied enchantments.
22 turns to a guaranteed victory, assuming your deck is perfectly stacked.
It was really fun doing all the math and watching the number of tokens increase. It's one of my favorite mechanics.
Should I replace some of the TGPs with Darksteel Ingots?
True, but I just wanted to share one of the more intense ones that I came up with.
Someone once sent me a link to a site where they generated so many tokens that they had to make up new notation just to write the number of tokens down. That's what inspired me to make this combo, and mine is absolutely minuscule compared to that one. If I can find the link I'll post it.
Leo Robinson
My original calculations were flawed, and I only ended up generating 2 sexvigintillion tokens.
Charles Diaz
Brody Anderson
My god....
Just wow.
Eli Campbell
What version of duels is this?
Tyler Hill
is that the shitty Steam version of mtg
if so please graduate to the normal person mtgo or xmage and stop being an idiot thanks
Cooper Ramirez
More fun with numbers: docs.google.com
Hudson Thomas
that's cute op
Asher Torres
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Grayson Harris
>The first few sets in Magic weren't meant to be balanced
In addition to explicitly being unbalanced (rarity sorts that out... r-right?), the color pie was screwy. Let alone nailed down, the concept didn't even exist.
Thomas Davis
> no Paradox Haze
Luke Foster
So is that. Remember, my deck is designed to create over a googol tokens.
Christopher Hughes
That's not even my screencap
Noah Lopez
>therideneverends.png
Julian Nguyen
I think that screencap is from Duels 2013
Jacob Richardson
That turn 1 damage challenge was so much more interesting than I expected
>58 singletons instead of a bunch of playsets that stack
>the biggest challenge is to NOT go infinite
>I have to learn a new type of annotation to try to comprehend how much damage is dealt
>googolplex is a rounding error compared to it
Justin Hill
More tokens than particles in the universe
Evan Walker
I know the chances of pulling it off is virtually zero, but how would this work in MTGO? Not familiar with the program. Besides "it crashes." At what point would my computer catch fire?
Samuel Allen
Probably very soon. Remember, the guy who wrote this couldn't even use Knuth's up-arrow notation to write the number. He had to just skip to writing the number of up-arrows he would have written.
Brandon Torres
Given that I'm pretty sure MTGO works with integers I highly doubt it would get much beyond the initial 2059 Doubling Seasons. Trying to put Xe620 items onto the battlefield might crash the program but it would probably just result in a little over two million being created at most since that's the maximum an Int32 will go to. However, MTGO probably won't actually spawn two million items onto the board. It likely has some much smaller cap like 999 for usability and testing reasons. I mean, let's be frank. Outside of wacky combos like this there is nothing you are going to do in MtG with ~infinity of anything that you can't do with 999 of them.
Nicholas Butler
I should try to calculate the actual number of tokens, without scientific notation. I bet I couldn't even fit it into a Veeky Forums post.
Samuel Wilson
You wouldn't even be able to express it *with* scientific notation. There really is no way to comprehend how large that number is.
Julian Russell
Holy shit.
Nathaniel Stewart
mtgthesource.com
All other synergetic decks are for babies.
Oliver Scott
>he thinks he's the only one who has made an infinite combo
cute
Dominic Thomas
actually white is supposed to be the second major removal colour, along with black, but it i true that white is kind of losing its control nature.
Jordan Bennett
>infinite combo
At least read what it does, the whole point was to not go infinite.
Brandon Perry
I usually think of white as "restrict but don't destroy completely", black as "bypass all damage effects, just straight up destroy", and red as "deal damage but don't straight-up destroy"
Very large, but still finite.
Easton Cooper
I should probably clarify what I mean by "very large".
I mean...
This number is 350 quintillion digits long.