Horus Heresy General /hhg/

>opportunistic screeching
holy shit

the BA cup icon is a 40k thing right? used to symbolise the death of sanguinius and his blood being collected?

I think the pimp cup was around back then yes.

Thanks, Meme-master!

About the Ordo Reductor thing:

One Arty piece and if you can take it a plasmar mortar guy (dunno if reductor can't take them, but they should).

Its not very much for 30k and more might be mean.

No idea about Decima.

>Also, is Decima any good as anything other than a suicide bomb? Seems he trades basically everything good about a Magos Reductor for EW and his REEEEEE attack.
Ehhh, weeell...
At least you can use him for taghmata

not as shit as nite lords

What is this?

Salad serving tongs for the Vegan Auxiliary.

The Rake equivalent to the scissor blades.

Another tool for the coming war against the leafs I guess ?

Bone armour on left, or Rakarth flesh on right? I've got 40 sludge boys waiting to be primed up one or the other.

looks amazing...except the glow effect is not really convincing me.

I mean, I do not like them in general.

very nice!

user what did this 4MB Saboteur explode?
Oh, for when you lack a shovel? :^)
LIGHTNING SPADES
I knew you were going to say something about the leafs.

Hello, user. Is that a golden bug on the top guy second to the left? And what's on that guy on the bottom far left?

OK, I think I'll get (well, convert) two Medusae, since I don't have a Thanatar (OR can run every automata, they just can't have them outnumber their other units), which works out well as I can then get two boxes of Guardsmen and convert them into Forge World Militia (Adsecularis) and have a full unit of those as well. Throw in a Magos, two units of Thallax and maybe an enginseer squad and that's a low points list to start with, I'd think.

Yeah, somehow I thought so. Shame, I like his fluff, just wish there was some more about him and Crysos Morturg, the most dysfunctional buddy cop show ever.

Honestly I do really like the "Rolling Bombardment" thing, and the Walkers in Ruin bonus looks shiny. Is it the spamming artillery that you object to? I guess they are 0-1 for the Legions for a reason.
Personally I do want to try deepstriking Thallax into ruins, since they ignore the mishap.

Rakarth Flesh, in my opinion, although both look good. Maybe chill on the eye glow a bit, though, it looks a bit like you've spilled paint down their helmets.

Neat saboteur there.
>LIGHTNING SPADES
That's what I thought when I saw it.

Good list idea!
Productive manufacturing-schedule, Magos!

>Yeah, somehow I thought so. Shame, I like his fluff, just wish there was some more about him and Crysos Morturg, the most dysfunctional buddy cop show ever.
But there is. Blackshield, the novel.
Dysfunctional? Nonsense, they do a grwat team as Bad Cop and EVEN WORSE Cop, like these guys.
Not mine, user's.
>Raven's Talons, Leafy pattern

They're both spare bits from the blightkings kit. its a little fly symbol for on top of standards. I might rip it off and recast it and do all the shoulders for 1 squad with it.

So are astartes 7 ft or 8 in power armour?

>OR can run every automata, they just can't have them outnumber their other units
You could bring six Thanatars (two full units of three) and it would still not outnumber your compulsory Thallax units.
Reductor's "limitations" are a joke.
Yes, I'm laughing in binharic greek right now.

Depends if you want them to be Nurgle-worshipping Mortarion fanboys, or independent-minded non-Chaos or even loyalist DG (left versus right). Those are what the subtleties say to me on unadorned models, but both will work. The bone-coloured one looks more like the "standard" tone to me as well, for what that's worth to you, good or bad.

Hopefully allways smaller, so 7.
They are broad as fuck allready.

Thank you, friend!

>Yes, daddy!

HA!

7 feet, even Custodes (their weapons are 4 meters long, not themselves) are like 7'3"-5" tall.
That mortal is simply a bit behind Thiel. It all started because someone did a true scale drawing of a marine on paper, and the scale started at 1feet rather than at 0, so it still was 7feet tall.

True, although my main reason not to run robots is that they work better with the Cybernetica +1I, so I will probably use Vorax and Arlatax so as to at least be able to hit simultaneously.

OK, I will def. take a look at that once I'm done with Priests/Lords/Gods of Mars, which has been good so far.

Why thank you, Archmagos. I do have to finish refurbishing the indentured Knight House first, though (After 40k Admech, FINALLY FLAT SURFACES! PRAISE THE OMNISSIAH).

Made you lads a shitty meme.

>tfw you can bring 12 Vorax and you're still legally able to be a Reductor as long as you bring an actual reductor Magos and six Thallax

And that way, you don't even need to buy them frag grenades. That means you can afford some cyber-occularis and give those 6 Thallax Interceptor.
Man, those things look awesome. Cover reduction, artillery spotting, deepstrike bonuses, Intercepting Guided Artillery with said cover reduction, the whole package.

I hope you oversee the strict enforcement of the Sidon-protocolls over thos oath-bound house,Magos-Prelate.
We both do agree that they are no use to our plans regarding the advancment of the Genetor-Congregation if they do not perform to the Synods full statisfaction?

His spree of wrecked vehicles and dreams started agains some Iron Hands. Upon arriving from reserves he exploded the landraider with command squad and praetor in terminator armour - including two of the command squad terminators

Next game, same Iron Hands, same Land Raider. No collaterals sadly, but he did manage to outflank next to a Venator and blow it up with his combi-melta

sub-2000 points game against Salamanders. He brought a spartan with 5 firedrakes and a pimped up praetor inside it, rolled the infiltrate warlord trait from the strategic table and infiltrated it all on one of my flanks. Turn 2 the spartan was eliminated, and the firedrakes spend the rest of the game trying to catch my units running away from them.

Team battle, my AL and mechanicus against IH and Salamanders. Spartan loaded with Pyroclasts bites the dust this time, and the IH's Venator was to close to the table edge yet again.

Another game against Salamanders. Yes the guy is starting to despise my Saboteur by now. Doesn't stop my sneaky fellow from exploding his Spartan yet again.

A game for a campaign we're doing here agains World Eaters, 2000 points. This time I'm facing a fully pimped spartan with 5 red butchers and a praetor in it. My saboteur arrives too late and the unit inside already disembarked, but the Spartan still exploded (the butchers got shot to bits by a plasma support squad and heavy bolter dudes after ripping through one of my veteran squads)

A friendly game against Iron Hands goes a bit sour when my Saboteur arrives, explodes a land raider and blows up a twin-kheres contemptor that was lingering too close to the edge of the table.

Another campaign battle, this time against the Salamanders. He no longer brings a spartan against me because, but loaded pyroclasts inside a Land Raider proteus this time. I think you guys can guess what happend by now :^) Afterwards the guy swears he's going to build a lists that counters Saboteurs.

Blood Ravens hating?!? Where?
Also, this.
Lots of memes recently, I like /hhg/, a high-energy comfy thread.

Hmm, maybe fucking up when your guys arrive with a damocles or proteus with explorator web?

I have no idea how else...except taking less vehicles.

Interceptor with AP4 guns

Bottom left...

>FOR YOU

I want to do Solar Auxilia and I will...y-you just watch!

Primarchs are by my arithmetic 8 and a half feet. Marines are 7 feet officially. Termies are primarch height also officially. So in armor they'd be somewhere 7.5 to 8 ft, which makes you correct

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Honestly, if I was in your group I'd be starting to get pretty fucking suspicious about your dice.

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I prefer that to 3 meter primarchs, except for maybe Magnus.

Seriously, gigantism was a mistake. Are Space Marines Orks, that can be sorted by HUEGness?

Daily reminder

Valdor is the only one allowed to say this and he is probably right even in a not screwed up contuinity.

Why not have huge meaty gene-seed blobs instead of primarchs?

No heresy here!

I think bone for mkiv and radar the flesh for mkiii, it's what I did when I painted dg.

Now I play Smurfs because we needed a loyalist legion at our store.

Well they don't have any reason to be suspicious because outside of that Saboteur most of my rolls are depressingly bad. If you ever need somebody to fail 12 out of 15 power armour saves on a regular basis ...

My predecessor in the role allowed many to depart as Knights Questoris. The required cadre will be ready for your arrival, but I advise that the Protocols should be tightened at the next meeting of the Synod. Encroachments of the Legio Vulturum and House Malinax mean we cannot afford to have our forces further weakened by glory hounds.

+++ Encryption Grade Aleph-null +++

How fares the project, Archmagos? We have little time, and if the "Revenants" work as anticipated, we could regain the offensive.

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Oh, cool.

Thought it was "muh loyalty" more than "hail horus".

What do the others play?Not ONE Blood Angels player?

PS:

We need a Loyalist/Traitor Poll in the paste-bin (is that the word?).

Speaking of Saboteur, how useful is the generic Vigilator in comparison? I don't do "sneaky" stuff yet but I'm interested in learning about the tactics.

Well, they roll with the Thallax primarily for the 5+ cover, and because they are the only unit far enough out for my spotting drones to buff, and I may as well give Interceptor to SOMETHING.

My army will take a while to build, though, since after the Knight at Christmas I can just about get the Thallax I need and maybe a Magos, long-term project really.

Wonder what kind's of rules he will get.
If he gets the current Guardian Spear Rules, he is fucked.

+++ Encryption Grade Aleph-null +++
The conversion of brought up refugee convoy from the Manachea system is at 87%.
Expect the arrival of the first cohort in 5 standard time cycles.
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01001111 01101101 01101110 01101001 01110011 01110011 01101001 01100001 01101000 00100000 01010110 01101001 01101110 01100011 01101001 01110100
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Are you a loyalist, by the way? I mean...most Mechnicum duders would probably use what they have at hand regardles of loyalty..but it depends.

Holy shit, capped. Could we see the rest of your list, please?
Non-marine minorities!
I like that pic a lot. Get pumped up with the Real Solar Auxilia song
youtube.com/watch?v=WAMkb6QgyMs

Pikes opposing horsemen,
arquebusiers confronting pikemen
With the soul united by the same clergy
let the blood run protecting the empire
Cross of Burgundy fluttering in the wind
Children of Santiago, great are the Tercios
Pikemen squad, flanks to cover
only those who aren't afraid can be free
Fight for your brother, die for your kingdom
Live for peace on this great empire
There'll never be defeat if they capture us,
only after death will we capitulate
Mesh collar, leather vest,
Breastplate and backrest shall keep me from the iron (blade)
Raise the pikes with a song to the sky
I'll never fear if the Tercio is in column (formation)

Well i feel like a fool
If you don't mind anons

Probably suits spanish people better, due to more emotion for them.

The text fits absolutely though.

Nah, they were all about the pimp cup full of blood even back during the Heresy.

They would pass it around and each contribute a little blood, and then pass it back around and each sip the mix. It was a bonding ritual or something. I can't exactly remember.

I warned you about stealing armour from isstavan, bro.

I like a lot of variaty with my armylists, so most of those battles I had a different armylist. But I usually have Dynat, Saboteur, laser destroyer rapiers, missile javelins, a venator, a plasma support squad, and then usually either lots of tacticals in rhinos and lernaean or veterans in rhinos and seekers. And those are just the most common units used, as there's also an Exodus in there from time to time, or some destroyers, lately also breachers, and sometimes the rare contemptor.

For my RG army should i only use Mk4 and Mk6 pattern armour?
I feel a whole army of Mk6 would be way too expensive

>They would pass it around and each contribute a little blood, and then pass it back around and each sip the mix.
Sounds damn unhygienic.

I mainly said that because the Solar Auxilia main troop organization unit is the Tercio, and they use Close Formation Fighting.
youtube.com/watch?v=dMEnBHef96c

I know, movie looks pretty good.

Is that Alatriste? Or however you write this?

Quite good, he's essentially an easy way to give move through cover, scout and stealth to one unit.

Plus for some reason he can take a jet pack so enjoy those 3+ cover saves as you don't take dangerous terrain tests on your assault marines.

Yup, that one. Means Sad-wing.

What's "MM" on the mor deythan? Whatever it is, I like plasma guns as the two special weapons on those dudes.

Vet tac squad seems a bit odd, would expect either a few more combimeltas in there, or alternately a couple of power weapons. At the moment you're paying a lot of points for 2 tank hunting (I assume) meltaguns.

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Excellent. I look forward to seeing them in action. The Atrapos-Variant has been refined to an acceptable level of control and is ready for embarkation. Pilot mental state should be sufficent for approx. 4.52 Martian Standard Sols of combat.

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Vulturax Automata scouts have detected enemy muster at the bounds of Forge Delta. Their particular capabilities seem resistant to the usual weapons, ensure Irrad and Phosphex weaponry is replaced by more mundane variants by the landing force. The enemy appears to have little mobility, however.

Lances 4 through 8 have engaged, detecting multiple contacts. Enemy has specialist chemical ordnance, ensure void seals are tight. May the Omnissiah guide your fire.

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Loyalist at present, but when things scale up to levels where Primarchs will be common, I have a feeling more... liberal technologies will be required.
Death Guard (who will probably be one of my main opponents) require some unorthodox approaches over the Reductor standard, as well. They don't die easily and can cut the heavier robots to bits just as well as the light automata.

MM are multimeltas, and yeah i know that really i should have more combis in that squad but i thought i'd give the whole squad bombs instead
I was debating the Plasma on the Deythan too, but i think i needed more pure AT

Thanks m8
>a plasma support squad
Are these guys the ones you deepstrike with Dynat?

I like the Admech with its robo clergy, at least most of them have actual skill!

Do you believe the Magos Biologis have it sometimes harder to get acceptance? Might be due to the focus on metal, but the focus on one-ness with the Omnissiah via one-ness with the machine begins with flesh and blood for every pilgrim.
Doesn't it?

No, those guys always ride in a rhino, sometimes with a MoS with them. I don't often use the deep-strike of Dynat actually ... damn should remember to use it more often

Magos Biologis normally start the same as the rest, moving up through the Auxilia. I expect they'd be accepted like any other, but have more difficulty getting promoted once they start seriously using biological augments over mechanical.

Of course, if the Forge World or Explorator Fleet has a sizable Biologis presence, that would not be a problem, since they believe that a properly constructed body is a type of machine, so there would be no such prejudice in those places since it would be a more mainstream tenet of that variant of the Cult Mechanicus.

Just look at the space marines or primarchs, if that shit is not the best example of biological machines I do not know how.

They are the ones keeping the flesh and nerve strands from detoriating, augments from being rejected by bodies!

>Mumblegrumble no wonder the Dark Admech is way more focused on achieving a unity of flesh and machine ....and way better at it!

We have the IRL story of a Magos Biologis attached to a Reductor cadre. Magos Derek Lowe.

>Today we have a fine compound from this line of work, part of a series derived from N-amino azidotetrazole. The reasonable response to that statement is “Now hold it right there”, because most chemists will take one look at that name and start making get-it-away-from-me gestures. I’m one of them. To me, that structure is a flashing red warning sign on a dead-end road, but then, I suffer from a lack of vision in these matters

>...even Klapötke himself, who clearly has refined sensibilities when it comes to hellishly unstable chemicals, calls “exciting”. Trust me, you don’t want to be around when someone who works with azidotetrazoles comes across something “exciting”

>...Both the initial communication and the follow-up publication go out of their way to emphasize that the compound just cannot be handled: The sensitivity of C2N14 is beyond our capabilities of measurement. The smallest possible loadings in shock and friction tests led to explosive decomposition. . .

>Yep, below the detection limits of a lab that specializes in the nastiest, most energetic stuff they can think up. When you read through both papers, you find that the group was lucky to get whatever data they could. The compound exploded in solution, it exploded on any attempts to touch or move the solid, and (most interestingly) it exploded when they were trying to get an infrared spectrum of it. The papers mention several detonations inside the Raman spectrometer as soon as the laser source was turned on, which must have helped the time pass more quickly.

>This shows a really commendable level of persistence, when you think about it – I don’t know about you, but one exploding spectrometer is generally enough to make recognize a motion to adjourn for the day.

>But these folks are a different breed.

So are you running him with a combi melta or something?

As the creator of the saboteur (but not that screencap) I can confirm that there's a combi-melta hanging on his back.

>I expect they'd be accepted like any other, but have more difficulty getting promoted once they start seriously using biological augments over mechanical.
I think opposite of this. The Taghmata codex states other magi don't like them, seeing Lacryaemarta as "peddlers in flesh and blood", but everyone knows they absolutely need them, since all manual labour and servitors and anything that interacts with organics (pretty much everything since Abominable Intelligence is banned) depends on them.

I love it!

You better respect the guy who can make blobs of flesh produce explosive slime!

Show us his combi-melta, Sabotanon!
From this
blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2013/01/09/things_i_wont_work_with_azidoazide_azides_more_or_less

Possibly, although I thought the Lacryaemarta were essentiallty overseers and slave-drivers.

I guess this stuff would vary from forge world to forge world, they are all quite different.

>I thought the Lacryaemarta were essentiallty overseers and slave-drivers.
Yes they are, but I thought that was the top-most position for biologis careers. I mean, why else would you want to understand biologic systems if not to better harvest their Motive Force? :^)

Thanks for linking it again.

If you look at House Orlac, yo ucan see what a good Biologos can do, even though back then the Mechanicum was probably not existing when they settled there.

Making servitors with space marinified ogryn bodies?

Fine tuning augments and recieving flesh? Upclocking braiiiiins?

Organic chemistry and how simple organism produce all the shit we need if correctly programmed?

He will probably be a bit above sigismund.

I'm not sure whether they're all tipsy or they're blushing so hard it shows through their helmets
>B-baka! It's not like I like melting the non-compliant or anything!

Kek.

>Making servitors with space marinified ogryn bodies?
Kataphrons and some other Combat Servitors are T5, so I guess. Also they helped the Emperor to create the actual space marines, including the uncooperative Selenites.
>Fine tuning augments and recieving flesh?
I think the most advanced thing they could create would be artificial flesh. As in, a Magos would look like a regular human, even better, but it's actually synthetic flesh with a few traces of organic compounds. A body truly made a machine.
>Upclocking braiiiiins?
Standard Machine Spirit creation :^)
>Organic chemistry and how simple organism produce all the shit we need if correctly programmed?
I remember something about one of Iron Man's suits being made through modified bacteria creating the nano circuitry as a byproduct of their bodily processes, so yeah it can be.

It's just a combi-melta

The finest augments are not worth shit if your body rejects them, also making an allready fast car faster and the whole bio electricity harnessing mechanicum standard coil thing (if you believe black heresy) is probably also their area.

As well as planting it into people.

>Magos Biologis.mgs

Yeah I mean they also do that. Implantation of anything.
>black heresy
Srry, couldn't resist boyyyyyyy.
youtube.com/watch?v=WXQCo9fLYWI

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They should have just upgraded all the Custodes into Primarch-level warriors.

Golden Legions of Primarch/Emperor tier warriors, just like my animu inspired headcanon would want. What could go wrong?