To start a thing off: who has the best ordinary life in the warhammer world? Most comfortable, secure, prosperous, most fun. This probably depends a lot on the individual races own view on life.
Alexander Young
High Elf.
>sitting around on my island >a few slaves around >magic myself up a drink, maybe have a wank
Oliver Brooks
Orcs. The world is a crappy violent place where everyone is waging war and combat determines much of personal power.
The orcs are 100% okay with that.
Andrew Mitchell
skink
>spend all day sunbathing and arguing with other skinks about completely inane bullshit
Angel Ortiz
Yes, feed me more completely different answers that all still might be true.
Samuel Harris
In my Dwarfs campaign I am Santa Slayer.
Wiped out all the Chaos and eastern Vampire opposition, wiping out Wood Elves and Red Duke in the west. Franz, Tilea, and Border Princes are all that remains of humanity. Border Princes aggressively absorbed Sylvania, all factions implore me for an alliance since the power bar is oure tellow against each but only the wielder of Ghal Maraz recieves my favor. Each four turns I award him a stockpile of gold. So far he has spent his time purging Chaos and Vampiric taint from his lands and stationing troops in the Moot alongside Thorgrim and his Flying Circus of Gyrobombers.
Adam Gonzalez
High Elves of the inner kingdoms. Life is idyllic, war is very rare.
Dwarfs come close. War more constant, but safety in the afterlife as Chaos consumed no Dwarf souls prior to End Times.
Then Marienburg.
Juan Allen
What's the official pronunciation of names like Heinrich (Kemmler) and Drachenfels? I've always pronounced them the German way, but lately I've started thinking that they're supposed to be pronounced the English way e.g. Heinrik.
Ryan Moore
So this is what I'm working on currently. Adding her as a "Damsel" to my newly won on ebay Bretonnia army. I want my Damsel to be more trumped up and warrior "Joan of arc" like... Aaand plus didn't have the money to dish out for a Repanse...and I want her on foot anyway. She's primed now, I'll probably paint her later in the week...
The mini is from Hasslefree Miniatures..
Cooper Stewart
British game, so go fill your mouth with limes and kebab then whatever comes out is correct.
Carter Hall
Came out darker than I wanted...here's the image from a painted version... Think she's make a good Damsel?
Parker Bell
I love Hasslefree. They do good shit.
Seen their last Kickstarter? A few would make good Brets and Empire girls.
Brandon Ross
I like it.
Jackson Roberts
Last thread
Charles Lopez
Yea same here... and I sort of regret not getting this version where she's kneeling. But I'll see how the standing one comes out. Hasslefree has surprisingly good stuff.
No I haven't see the kickstarter, I don't want too many women, they honestly don't really "belong" in a Breton army
Samuel Gray
>Sigmar >Unites a bunch of beardy tribesmen >Needs the help of the Dwarfs to protect his realm >Becomes a god
>Settra >Unites all of Nehekhara >Leads armies to conquer lands far and wide >Builds titanic monuments to the Gods >Ends up a bag of (mobile) bones
This is not justice.
Hudson Perez
Settra wound up outside the cycle, immune to Chaos and eternal. He is part of the Wind of Death, and even withiut a body can always return some day. If Nagash feels like it.
Sigmar will canonically die and be destroyed in AoS and be consumed by Chaos like any man. Archaon will kill him, then replace him.
Camden Allen
Halflings, especially if they live in the moot. Drink, fuck, prank Stirlanders, take potshots at zambinos.
Nathan Edwards
Sup senpai, just got these stunnin stunties for only $64, $15 shipping. That's like just the Warriors and Cannon new. Plus the better Gyrocopter model.
Grayson Gutierrez
fuck off, Archaonfag
Jaxon Jackson
>before End Times, there were no absolutes >now, no matter what, Chaos will definitely win with no hope of survival otherwise
It's kind of stupid. It's not as if I wanted a definite scenario by which the good factions would win, but now knowing there's no chance for them to takes the fun out of the fight.
Wyatt Sullivan
Basically idiots like Kirby and Gav 'Deep' Thorpe went 'durr if we make it more like 40k dat will make it more gooder DURR.'
Sebastian Lee
No, prior to End Times there was an absolute and that was that Chaos would win because everyone would go full-retard.
In AoS the only absolute is that Archaon will kill Sigmar, then pick up Ghal Maraz because Tzeentch himself and Archaon both predicted it (Archaon is a Chaos God, he has that clout now). Nothing else is a guarantee in AoS.
The shitty narrative is planting the seeds for Archaon to be redeemed, because apparently there's still good in him deep down and he has to kill Sigmar for it to come out.
Evan Evans
Just imagine the Warhammer World is cyclical. The End Times represents the end of one particular iteration. The Storm of Chaos happens in another. Blood Bowl occurs at some point due to chaos theory (small c).
And one version is the one where your games take place.
Adrian Wood
Its a multiverse, where specifically the version of the Warhammer World that End Times and AoS happened in was cyclical.
Kayden Bennett
>buy bretonnian army >Gee dubs kills fanatsy >all local players immediately go to sigmar and then drop it a month later for 40k
at least I still have total war
Luis Bailey
You tried just continuing to show up and trying and rope people in? My community resurrected because of two guys playing every week.
Austin Bailey
Don't feel bad, I just bought a full Bret army off ebay for a hell of a deal, and I know full well that AoS has subplanted all of the local gaming clubs. I'm more of a hobbyist anyway.
Thank being said, Total War Brets are probably in the pipeline but don't expect them *that* soon.
I like collecting and painting just for fun anyway, I haven't played an 8th edition game in a while.. Try to find meetups (meetup.com), craigslists groups and other more "underground" means of meeting fellow 8th and even 9th edition players. I want to try 9th out myself...
Juan Lee
local Gw banned fantasy and only allows sigmar cuz the manager had some beef with the local fantasy players. Every other game store if too far for me
they were confirmed for this coming February by CA
Blake Bailey
Like I said, the internet is a hell of a hub to bring people together...use social media resources, craigslist to find groups...there's still 8th/9th players around
Connor Clark
>local Gw banned fantasy and only allows sigmar cuz the manager had some beef with the local fantasy players Complain about the manager. GW may have shit business practices, but their customer service is pretty good usually.
Ask them to let Fantasy back. Push them on it being a GW product played with GW models.
Jeremiah Moore
The old fanatsy players tried but GW said its was up to the manager because "technically" they dont support the game anymore
Samuel Adams
Yea it's what the red shirts are told to do. It's such money grabbing BS....god I hate AoS with such a passion....long live Bretonnia.
Parker Williams
Way to fuck himself out of paint-buyers
Eli Perry
Damn, fuck GW.
Hey, if /pol/ can meme magic a morbidly obese retard into office, can't we somehow nuke AoS?
Alexander Gutierrez
yep most of the fantasy players either quit the hobby or moved to 40k
>can't we somehow nuke AoS? >implying it isnt already dead
Daniel Davis
40k just got End Times.
Brilliant marketing.
Carson Miller
pft...don't get my hopes up...
You know I'd love to see Warhammer Fantasy come back and have AoS be a GW side game, like space hulk or blood bowl
Nicholas Watson
Call corporate. Inform them that their lack of customer loyalty means you'll never buy another product of theirs again, and have advised your fellow hobbyists to do the same. Pretend that you think this is a corporate policy deliberately designed to trick customers into being forced to buy new products.
Then sit back and wait for fuckface to get fired.
Jonathan Cox
This. Conceptually, AoS works as an intro game or a skirmish alternative.
But the lore is complete and utter shit.
Jordan Gray
This. This. I don't even want to call it 'lore'. It's just stories that are as close to 40k as they can make something and still have it referred to as "fantasy".
Jaxson Bennett
Bother to try.The guy placed himself in the Book Of Grudges himself! Hopefully they make him to backpeedle.
Michael Morales
But they don't know it. It's shit, but you are talking about guys who created Horse Heresay novels and strock their tiny weiners to primarchs while retconing light and left.
I sincerely believe that they think AoS lore is okay and refer to that Fyreslayers borderline-magical realm bullshit as ,,innovative concept".
People who loved fantasy, even as a genere, left the studio long time ago. Even LOTR was put on some other group, because they have paid with their souls for the license.
Jaxson Stewart
>that Fyreslayers borderline-magical realm bullshit The thing where there's no females?
Lucas Lopez
I think that whole Ur-Gold concept kinda shows indication that someone needs consultation.
Ian Thompson
And parts that are kinda cool are eldar ripoff.
Justin Thompson
How so? Collecting dust that was once Gotrek and tattooing yourself into it? Replacing love of drink for a ludicrous lust for gold?
I'm not saying it isn't shit, but I don't know where sexual fetish is coming into it. I mean, Slayers are basically short bears anyway.
Easton Walker
Bretonnian diplomacy in Total Warhammer is odd.
>Demand 7k gold and a military alliance The debt you have accrued is due! >Refuse Bretonnia weeps at your refusal.
Noah Hernandez
>Hasslefree has surprisingly good stuff. Dude. It's just as good, if not better than GW. Especially since GW uses finecast now.
Personally I think they are better simply because HF doesn't use the over the top heroic scale proportions
Jordan Gutierrez
>Price resin above metal
I can't even... It's not that resin is good for your health if you fucking eat it.
Justin Jackson
Well the only problem with Hasslefree is they don't make actual armies, they make more special characters or lords style mini's. I don't mind **some** heoric sizes, but only when it makes sense...like Archaeon, or or that Tzeentch bird thing, but GW takes it (especially recently) way fucking too far with every fucking model being some epic herculean man-god thing.
I miss the days of pic related
Brayden Jackson
I'm a collector, so I love the odd stuff Hasslefree makes.
David Jones
I don't even know what you are trying to say. How does eating resin anything to do with what I just said? I was referring to GW's shitty casting quality if you are inferring I was worried about safety concerns.
>Well the only problem with Hasslefree is they don't make actual armies, They do have an extensive range of sci-fi Dwarves, the Grymn. Including a walker vehicle and different troop types. The sci-fi Troopers are also gonna get reinforcements. There even was a rumor about a plastic sprue but I think that's just wishful thinking. The modern troopers are a modular system so you could do an army with them too.
Granted they don't have much for fantasy wargaming, in particular WHFB. If you play a zombie apocalypse game you can get loads of great minis from them, or alternate stuff for Infinity for example. They usually have miniatures that go together though. Like the scooby doo or the stargate cast.
Mostly interesting for rpgs and collectors though. Since WHFB doesn't exist anymore I made up my mind to forget about painting armies. I never game anyway.
Jackson Sullivan
Hashut be praised, more slaves for your toil!
Jaxson Morgan
Sometimes I'm surprised to see the Bretonnian Round Table still up.
Cooper Collins
We waited over ten years for a book that was basically done but was never released, it should hardly be surprising.
Owen Morris
General anger on using resin against pewter and still raising price.
My Henrich Kemmler is resin thanks to that.
Sorry, random outburst.
Ian Bell
Eh, it flooded the market and made secondhand cheaper to get.
My Vlad is metal, my Konrad and Isabella are Finecast, my old Vlad/Isa/Mannf are obviously metal. Now I just need new Mannfred and I have the whole family, unfortunately new Mannf is hard to get.
Grayson Sanders
>Sorry, random outburst. No worries. I get it. I ordered some blister packs from GW direct, because reasons, just when they made the switch. They sent me an email asking if it'd be cool if they send me FC models instead of the metals I ordered for those that were out of stock. Same price. I was a little worried, but said ok in spite of my concerns.
They were horrible. Every. Single. Miniature. Completely useless basically. That was the last time I bought a resin mini from GW.
I mean I have loads of resin mini, but I have never seen quality that bad.
Xavier Moore
Resin sucked ass for the big blocky ones, like Warriors. It was okay for Alarielle.
Carter Turner
What if instead of end times, we got something like storm of chaos but based on the actual results? the ones where chaos gets BTFO? I think i could get into this setting.
Gavin Martinez
But user, the one rule of Warhammer is that only Chaos is important and there has to be pottery.
Look at AoS. Archaon is the main character now, which allowed Slaanesh to be killed. Because he's the real Sigmar.
Brayden Nguyen
It's called WFRP 2nd edition. Maybe not to the extent of the picture you posted but Chaos got a serious wallop that gave the Old World a breather. Sure there's maruaders and beastmen in the forests but what's new.
Austin Sanchez
>chaos gods splitting up I like this concept. Let the more powerful greater daemons and daemon princes go off to be their own minor gods and slowly gain their own personality now that they aren't slave to the big 4. The lesser daemons either follow one of the new minor gods and start changing to fit their new masters, or roam the now truly fractious chaos realms fulfilling the purposes they were originally created to do.
The chaos gods themselves each split into several lesser gods around sotek/sigmar/horned rat pre end times in strength that represent their main aspects, and not all of these gods are nessecarily evil.
Carson Collins
I know End Times isn't popular, but I was curious: in ET, the Skaven just completely conquer Tilea and Estalia, without even a single word as to how they did it.
Would anyone else want this to be fluffed out? I would love to see stuff like the Leopard Company returning to Luccini one last time to defend the temple of Lucan and Luccina, Galloper Guns being turned on Warp Lightning Cannons, the Estalians attempting a Reconquista with the body of El Cyd to rally them, all that cool stuff.
Carter Bell
No.
Mason Reyes
BL author Josh Reynolds had a fan fiction type thing going on with the various characters and factions that were left out of the end times books. Really filled in the blanks and made endtimes somewhat bearable. He has writeups on everything from the fall of tilea to Grimgor sacking Cathay and the chaos dwarfs
Basically what happens to tilea and establish is that clan eshin plans a night of mass assasinations where thousands of generals, princes, tacticians, engineers and other important personnel were taken out in one night of terror. Cut off and leaderless, the city states fell in weeks.
Owen Hughes
The best thing about Total Warhammer is that you can essentially give the middle finger to the End Times.
Tyler Ross
Pretty much what I'm doing for my game. The Storm of Chaos has been broken and the Empire is politically unstable but able to recover if heroes keep it from falling under the subversive forces that might tip it further over the edge.
Jayden Hall
What exactly were the results from storm of chaos and how would they translate into the lore? I know chaos got BTFO and supposedly tomb kings and brets won big, but does anyone know the details?
Samuel Gray
Did anyone collect all his fan stuff for ET?
They're the only thing good about the whole shitshow.
James Ross
Each battle was supposed to advance the story more, and GW counted on Chaos being so OP they'd surely be one of the finalists. Chaos didn't win a single battle, period.
In the most hamfisted way, GW had the results being that the battles were the forces of order making a glorious last stand against overwhelming odds before being defeated, so Chaos was written to win in a massive victory every time even though it lost badly.
Tomb Kings technically should have been finalists, but were written out as "just went home for some reason". But their reason for even being involved in the first place was pretty weak though. Skaven made it pretty far, but GW had no clue what to do with them. They clearly had planned for the combined Dark Elf/Slaanesh army to go far, but they were knocked out early.
GW abandoned the idea of any of the other battles meaning anything, and just shoved Chaos into a defending position in the battle they decided would determine the ending, where Chaos controls the castle and the Empire has to break in which as far as crunch goes should have been an easy Chaos victory, but Chaos still lost. So GW decided to try and salvage their big story about Chaos ending the world by having players phone in to decide who won, and the result was actually Orcs and Goblins despite them having already been beaten.
So...basically everyone lost Storm of Chaos. Grimgor's army ran away into the hills while he was dueling Arbaal, Archaon was about to kill Valten while the last of the Empire was being butchered when Grimgor suddenly appeared out of nowhere and headbutted Archaon in the genitals, beat the shit out of him then laughed about how weak Archaon was and went back to the mountains to get his army back. The Warriors ran after seeing the Everchosen in the fetal position crying, and he retreated back to the north to plan another invasion like Failbaddon. Valten was taken to recover from his wounds where Skaven assassins stabbed him to death.
Slayers are cool because they're suicidal nutters aiming to redeem themselves in the eyes of their peers and the gods by going out in a blaze of glory.
Fyreslayers miss the point by making them a clan of mercenary, gold-loving fire-dwarfs with volcano dragons.
Henry Reyes
>this is what endfaggots ACTUALLY believe top fucking kek, shitmar
Liam Sullivan
Please, talk me out of starting a Tzeentch WoC army after seeing new models. I don't want to spend that much money, but my willpower sucks.
Matthew Lewis
That's because fyreslayers are not just slayers. Their culture is more like a norse warrior lodge than death wishers
Jaxon Ross
It's stupid and for retarded memers. "I love goooooooooooold!!! xD"
Lincoln Rodriguez
indeed. everyone knows dwarfs don't love gold. they just tell it that to get it into bed.
Elijah Powell
How would WHFB change, if it was written by Pratchett?
Matthew Turner
.... what? The fyreslayers are great. Honestly they're something that would fit into whfb well.
Angel Hernandez
if they wore pants, maybe. not the way they are now, tho
Levi Clark
Eh. That doesn't bother me so much. The sculpt quality variance is hilarious though
Charles Parker
How bad do LotR Dwarfs look when mixed with WHFB or third-party Dwarfs? I know Elfs/Humans have very different proportions, but deformed midgets can't be that different, right?
Alexander Morris
>FYREslayers >fit into Warhammer Fantasy Hahahahaha. No.
Blake Thomas
I've been collecting, painting and playing Bretonnians since 2nd Edition. And I'll never, ever stop. Fuck AoS and fuck GW.
Luke Hall
That's the right attitude !
Cameron Hill
bah, I bet you buy new models and include new units, when army books add them
casual amateur
Logan Mitchell
get hyped you subhuman bretonnian scum
Radious please go and stay go.
Andrew Allen
(very very heavy skirmishers)
Jacob Wilson
people are still bitter here, man, try in a few decades or on T9A forums - people are less hating of GW there, ironically
Evan Ortiz
Would you lewd a lahmian?
Wyatt Thompson
sure, why not? it's male vampire fuckboys that are gay retarded shit. female vampire fuckgirls are perfectly fine.
no, I'm not being sarcastic or ironic.
Christopher Myers
I bring fresh OC from /twg/
Gavin Turner
why ain't Elves pals with Vampire Counts? >bonding over being immortal >both dislike dwarfs >both see humans as dirty cattle mayflies
for a supposedly "Grey and Black Morality" setting, WHFB is soooo set it in its Good Guys - Bad Guys duality...
Asher Hill
>vampires full of dark magic >"why aren't normal people friends with us Sad!"
Andrew Sanders
so it is Necromancy Shysh or Dhar? I can never get it straight, 'cos various sources say different things
also, as if that matters. it's not D&D where >negative energy = EVUUULL >but I use it to battle bad guys and save good guys >EVUUUUL
Easton Torres
Both, but primarily dhar.
Because elves consider them abominations. Imagine a chimpanzee shaving itself, cutting its arms so they're shorter, and wearing a frame to force it to walk upright while it loudly proclaims itself human - that's how elves see vampires.