What's a good system to use to run a GATE-style game?

Got a war crime for you right here

This.
Get Modern Ops and the Fantasy Companion, go nuts.

>Even at it's best Japan was a imitation of the British Empire.
I personally do not care that much for the history of Japan, but you are shitposting/trolling me aren't you.

Japan after it's reformation took notes from several European powers the most influential ones for their Army/Government were the Prussians and French, their constitution was mostly influenced by Prussia, while their navy was inspired from the British. The way they governed their territories and conquered them was with appointed officials from the Emperor unless it was militarily occupied.

It was far from an imitation of the British Empire in any way.

>Plus being Japanese they were too busy eating people and committing random atrocities to get any proper imperialism.

How fucking retarded are you in the history department? Or do you only know about WWII and the actions of certain parts of the IJA?

>Never committed war crimes

Japan committed war crimes dude.

>Japan threatened super-nation America on it's own foolish gaijin
HA HA HA

Japan had to resort to guerrilla-ish tactics when they were being owned in their home turf. They would never have been able to carry out an invasion of the American continent

t. European.

MAID.

Not that they wanted to. At the very best they toyed veeeeeery loosely on the idea of some operations in the Hawaii.

Now now, settle down and eat your hamburgers Nanashi

I'm an American though.

Dark Heresy, hands down.

(or Only War or one of the other iterations of essentially the same game)

You don't need a system to wank about weapons and fap to waifus.

>Japan committed war crimes dude.
uh huh

Got any that aren't made up chinese/korean or western propapanda fabricated to make Japan look bad?

Yeah, didn't think so.

Isn't the guy who made this series just some boot otaku wannabe-toughguy self-inserting through the protagonist to live out all his lamest nationalistic otaku fantasies?

And the manga/anime version is actually TONED DOWN from how rightwing bullshit the original story he wrote was?

just like every 'america wins everything freedom eagles only good guys in the world' war movie ever, yes.

The difference is the Americans actually have something to back it up with, Japanese nationalism is the most laughable thing ever. Its like a guy with a needledick screaming he's a sex bomb to all the chicks.

There's a few (Michael Bay) movies that are like that, but most American movies really aren't all that bad (perhaps because so many of them actually are anti-war).

Also, US can actually back up their bullshit, which does make it slightly less cringey than when some Nipponese rightwinger that's buttblasted about Korea starts barking.

It would be impossible to balance JSDF with the US because they use the exact same equipment. It's like trying to balance the 201st infantry division of NATO with the 202nd when by definition they're supposed to be the same - to get the desired result, you'd have to take the anime route and give Americans -6 intelligence.

Also, GURPS is made for this.

It doesn't count against Chinese people. The Chinese practically threw their citizens away in the millions without giving a fuck in the Great Leap Forward, so I'm quite sure they don't care if they die.

I'm not american nor japanese, and Gate is easily in the top ten of the most cringeworthy wank settings I've encountered.

It's good if you want to see the JSDF kick fantasy and US ass and reap monstergirls like there's no tomorrow. But if you want a setting about the confrontation of two realities and their interactions following the clash, it's an abject failure.
I don't care that much about the JSDF and I masturbated before reading it, so I didn't like that story.

ERHM. (And you can't deny it because the Japanese gov. officially acknowledged it.)

>politicians made an apology about something for political points

Is not proof

I commend your respect of the source material, OP, but why would you want to make the other modern soldiers inferior?

Execution of Vichy officials in Indochina?
I doubt the french government went through the effort of retrieving the corpses and decapitating them just to make Japan looks bad, when they had a lot of more urgent issues at hand.

Muh glorious Nipponese nation doesn't really work when you remember that:
>most of their culture is copied from koreans who in turn copied from chinese
>tried to invade korea in 16th century and got their asses kicked by bunch of korean guerillas and chinese conscripts and most of their navy destroyed by one korean admiral
>tried to create a proper empire during late 19th-early 20th century only for it to collapse as soon as they had to fight against a modern great power instead of nations that were either already crippled or nearing collapse
>their economy has been in shitter for quarter of the century with no improvements in sight

Don't forget the cultural difficulties, such as salarymen working themselves to death and the male and females struggling to interact with each other.

youtube.com/watch?v=iVMm-Cm6y3g

Phoenix Command mixed with rhand morninstar missions.
Phoenix command has the weapons, their early rpg called rhand morningstar mission have the magic system.
I actually played a one battle using phoenix command and a pathfinder wizard.

I was actually a isis fighter , battling aggainst a lvl 1 pathfinder wizard.

I used mythic solo dm, and I (isis ) won.

>Never committed war crimes
Best be bait

Now this is some quality bait right there; can't tell if actually retarded or trying hard.

>And unlike western nations, never committed war crimes.

Firstly, the nips brought the nukes upon themselves. Secondly, the swift ending of the war kept the ruskies from getting their commie mitts on Japan, letting it rebuild as a self-governing nation rather than a bankrupt red hellhole. Thirdly, the gooks were not angels, and they did commit war crimes. Let's not forget the "comfort stations" in the Philippines where Japanese troops repeatedly raped sex slaves. Their mistreatment of American POWs as many of them died of starvation, overwork, and illness while occasionally being tortured becasue the gooks thought surrender was "dishonoraboo".

Source for rape houses
>academic.udayton.edu/race/06hrights/GeoRegions/Asia/Japan01.htm

And prisoners
>hellfire-pass.commemoration.gov.au/the-enemy/treatment-of-prisoners.php

It has a Wikipedia page for Christ's sake
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes

>it has a wikipedia so it must be true!

In order:

>Japan deserved nukes
Nice justification from the only country to ever actually nuke someone.

Russia had China to deal with - by the time they had, Japanese military would be ready for them.

Exaggeration - yes the Imperial Army had sex workers - paid sex workers. Just like every other army since forever.

Prisoners generally got shitty treatment, the Empire didn't treat its prisoners any worse than the Germans or Russians did, or the Americans.

>literally tortured for sport and beheaded
>b-but the Americans and Russians are just as bad
Tu Quoque, We're talking about Japan.
>yeah, they had sex slaves, but it's no biggie.
Did you even read the sources?
>Tomasa Salinog remembers her rape at thirteen and her initiation into Imperial Japan's system of 'comfort stations.' Japanese soldiers burst into her home in the middle of the night, soon after the Japanese invasion of the Philippines in 1942. They decapitated her father and removed her to a garrison where two soldiers raped her and then beat her unconscious. After this initiation, she served as a 'comfort woman' in the garrison, used by Japanese soldiers from the afternoon until late into the night, her body priced in blocks of time allocated to each soldier.
Yeah, seems real defensible.

God, I fucking hate weaboos.

>This thread

>GATE

I fucking hate you and I hope everyone you care for fucking dies horribly, and you will grow old so you'll suffer your entire life.

Run it as a UN Peacekeeping mission

I want and some day I will run/play GATE with UN troops

>literally tortured for sport and beheaded
Don't forget eaten for shits and giggles.

To be fair its alot better than actually talking about Gate, or Goblin Slayer/Worms that people also like to spam threads of

>3rd

Tbh Fat Man being used against Kyoto would had been more than enough but no, weaboos in US government had to go and stop that from happening.

>>Nice justification from the only country to ever actually nuke someone.
Nice apologism it is here, I love how you forget that the military planned to give the civilians sharpened baboo sticks to attack the US soldiers on their landing zone

>>Russia had China to deal with - by the time they had, Japanese military would be ready for them.
Dude, the USSR overrun the Japanese on Manchuria with such easiness it was funny and China only got its shit back together after the war.

>>Exaggeration - yes the Imperial Army had sex workers - paid sex workers. Just like every other army since forever.
NO they were not, almost all were kidnapped and raped by the japanese soldiers.

>>Prisoners generally got shitty treatment, the Empire didn't treat its prisoners any worse than the Germans or Russians did, or the Americans.
Nice apologism, I don't remember any hellships or death marches thanks to US soldiers.

Also kind of funny you forget the Rape of Nanking and the Punitive Massacres after the Tokyo Raid and Unit 731 would also like to have a word with you.

So yeah, you know shit for history.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes#Cannibalism
I was going to ad a anime pic featuring cannibalism, but then I realized that was in bad taste,,,

USA didn't have sexworkers. They didn't want it when proposed so they raped the french woman. At least the fiancee didn't heard about the rape like they would have if it was prostitution.

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So, Tojo reincarnated in a Veeky Forums shitposter?

Its hilarious that the west didn't have cannibalism as a war crime in the law books because it wasn't necessary before the fucking Japs got involved

War crimes were pretty much the only area where Japanese successfully invented new things.

Punish. Punish them hard. Jews should be the elves.

calm down hitler

aaaah nihon, not having a silly cultural taboo against eating other people like us filthy barbaric gaijin, it is no wonder they have never lost a war and got nuked,,, twice

>Nice apologism it is here, I love how you forget that the military planned to give the civilians sharpened baboo sticks to attack the US soldiers on their landing zone

You do realise that your statement there is excellent evidence to show that at the very least the second nuke on Nagasaki wasn't needed?

Japan was already on its last legs. The US military could easily have waltzed in there with minimal casualties. Fanaticism is useless without proper weapons.

Of course, you can limit casualties, save time, test out your new weapon and above all SCARE THE SHIT OUT OF STALIN, with only one or two bombs. Because that - that was the primary reason for dropping the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Those two nukes were the opening shots of the Cold War.

>The US military could easily have waltzed in there with minimal casualties
Nice non-sequitur, faggot.
Again, you know nothing about WWII. It was projected that more Jap civilians and a hell of a lot more American troops would have died in an invasion of Japan.

Again, source
>forbes.com/sites/henrymiller/2012/08/01/the-nuking-of-japan-was-a-tactical-and-moral-imperative/#447b0f704881

Fanaticism is useless without proper weapons,

need you be reminded of a little conflict in a country called Vietnam

I'm sure OP is proud of you all

I remember Vietnam did pretty well.

>forbes

Oh yeah, that's a good academic source.

The Vietnamese got FUCKLOADS of weapons from China. Japan was completely isolated.

Apprently a couple french comic authors are working on something similar. One of them did Womoks, a great humorous military sci-fi series, so I'm pretty hyped.

Dumping a few pics.

Don't forget they also found the graves of the executed PoW soldiers and civilians on Wake.

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actually they got fuckloads of weapons from Russia, the Chinese were suppose to deliver the aforementioned fuckload, the Chinese then thought that's some good hardware, and stole most of it. to this day Vietnam is still pissed about it

>Oh yeah, that's a good academic source.

Not an argument.

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Nice.
Name ?

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Yes it is.

Journalists are notoriously bad at handling academic subjects.

>You do realise that your statement there is excellent evidence to show that at the very least the second nuke on Nagasaki wasn't needed?
This is gonna be good

>Japan was already on its last legs.
Ok, yes ... and the Japanese still refused to surrender this would either had ended with an invasion of Japan with a shitload of casualties for everybody or economical strangulation of Japan with the death of thousands of Japanese civilians thanks to lack of food.

>The US military could easily have waltzed in there with minimal casualties.
Haha, nope. The purple hearts made for the campaign haven't run off.

>test out your new weapon and above all SCARE THE SHIT OUT OF STALIN
Stalin already had a shiton of spies inseted on the Mahattan Project so he knew the US was cooking up something big. The USSR still buttfucked the Japanese out of Manchuria, the Sakalins and Kuriles after the first (and later second bomb) was dropped.

SO yeah, you still don't know history and I'm not even a historian.

Neato, One of the issues that I have with GATE is that whatever conflict appears is easily solved by the superior firepower of the Japanese.
That is why I find more interesting for a game to be about Peacekeepers because it will deal with situations that won't be solved only by shooting, such as the deal with the scorched earth tactics used by the Emperor and dealing with its consequences

also, video related youtube.com/watch?v=UtegUGSK1bg

The Americans foolishly miscalculated Japanese culturally ingrained bluffing as actual combat strength. HURR DURR DA PURPUL HEARTZ. Fuck off. In hindsight, it quickly became clear the US military could have easily bulldozered right over Japan in an invasion that would make the Western front look like a horrifying WW1 meatgrinder in comparison.

And Stalin? Spies inserted in the Manhattan Project before the nuking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Are you retarded? Hahahahaha.

Reno.
He worked as an artist on Womoks, Valamon and Aquablue.
Here's his blog, with lot of pics:
reno-pixellu.com/blog/

Old blog post from another french comic author (translated), about a proacted war between fantasy and modern world.

english.bouletcorp.com/2009/04/24/war-of-the-worlds/

And the fact the only things that could threaten them and their SUPERIOR YAMATO TACTICOOL DAMASHII (FOLDED 1000 TIMES) are perfect superhuman cliche waifus that happen to be wearing literal Japanese nerd fashions that instantly join and aid the JSDF just because

combat strength no, willingness to die just to take some invaders down more like it, this was the country that invented suicide-bomb planes, or have you already pronounced them a US propaganda piece??

Who the fuck cares about their willingness to die?

You can't fight a modern army with bamboo sticks and an empty belly.

What if you sneak up on the invaders and eat them

What? With a katana forged 10000000 times that can cut right through a Sherman tank?

Itami's squad was more interesting than the waifu harem

What you were doing is called "deflection", turning the conversation away from a central point to avoid talking about it. If you're SO sure that the nukes killed more people than a ground invasion, why don't you prove it yourself, you gook-loving weeb. Provide some credible sources.

Missed opportunity, really
>Sir, we're getting slaughtered by what appears to be a gothic lolita.
>Be more precise lieutenant! Kuro, Guro, or Witch?
>Gothic lolita a shit. A SHIT!
>Clear the channel, Kobayashi. This doesn't concern you.

and mass produced grenades, the japs were making fuck loads of grenades in preparation for the invasion, many of which were used by the organized crime after the war ended, literal gang war,, but you are just going to say that suicidal people with explosives simply are not a threat to soldiers lives and wellbeing,,, right?

Japan didn do nuthin they waz just taken they're righful cley

Did someone say Clay?

I'm not saying the nukes killed more people than a ground invasion.

I'm saying that the nukes were excessive force. Even today, there are still people dying due to cancer from the fallout of those nukes, and there are people with defects caused by the contamination of their parents.

That's unnecessary collateral damage inflicted on generations that were born long after the war was over.

If the USA had just invaded Japan, a fuckload of Japanese people would have died, but all those deaths would remain confined within the time period of WW2.

Unlike the nukes, which are still slowly killing people to this day.

>Unlike the nukes, which are still slowly killing people to this day.
And yet the Japanese are still killing their nation off faster by not procreating.

Slowly killing fewer people than would have died in the American (and Russian most likely) invasions. Particularly since Japan was already telling its civilians to commit suicide before the invaders show up.

It also made a point about the effectiveness of this new weapon before it could be used in later wars.

The nukes were exactly used to deter any russian invasion of the japanese islands. The russians did not yet have nukes, but a hugely superior army.

The official reason "muh losses" was bullshit for the masses.

Japan was about to surrender, just not unconditional.
Tojo whose idea was that bullshit "kill yourself for Japan" was losing support rapitly.

Definitely trying hard. The "foolish gaijin" gives it away. A better, more subtle, bait would have been something like this:

>Japan nearly defeated America in WW2.
>Unlike western nations, Japan knows the value and strength of total war.

>tried to create a proper empire during late 19th-early 20th century only for it to collapse as soon as they had to fight against a modern great power instead of nations that were either already crippled or nearing collapse
I think it settles it.
Tushima was caused mostly by Brits refusing Russian navy to pass through Suez so fleet arrived in bad condition after Pacific Fleet already lost. Also Russian admiral was idiot that was thinking he is going to fight against savages in boats made of shit and sticks.
On land it is hard to loose against opponent that have supply basses at opposite side of Eurasia.

Latter when Soviet Union finished their rail and could supply they troops they have absolutely stomped Japs at Khalkhin-Gol.
They won against Brits, when most of RN was recalled into European theatre, or French after France collapsed.
Their best performance was surprise attack at Pearl Harbor, after this it is spanking from US navy till the end of the war and muh faith in Emperor in another pointless unwinnable battle.
IJA's soldier best ability was to die gloriously in the name of the Emperor.

>mfw I'm in a campaign like this
>mfw accidentally married an elf(male)
>mfw going along with it because >french

and the US should have negotiated why?

remember the official reply to the first nuking was, we don't think you have any more of those things,

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>and the US should have negotiated why?

So that one of the biggest war criminals of 20th century would had been allowed to continue ruling as a living god.

I haven't seen this many sick bombs dropped since the Enola Gay.