Yes this is exactly how you build devastator marines
Gavin Young
i don't know if i want the emperor's champion and a bunch of scouts and be locked into black templars chaptact or a cheap iron hands hq and a group of non-slot techmarines and some scouts, throwing relics all over.
Zachary Torres
>being a WAACfag The system was designed for narrative and casual play. All the tips in the rulebook are about how to better do narrative play. The most important rule is basically "don't be a dick, feel free to modify anything if it makes the game more fun for everyone". Ypu are quite literally playing the game in a way it was not intended to be played, and WAAC practices ruin the game for people who want to use the system to have fun, not just win. The only faggot here is you.
Carter Sanchez
>m41 >calth still around, has thriving popullace under the surface thanks to the work of the ultramarines >Colchis is a lifeless shithole of a planet, the lifeless part thanks to the work of the ultramarines >worst bearers still think they can talk shit
Gavin Morris
How would you suggest I base my Custodes? I was thinking about a palace interior i.e fancy floor but I don't know how to go about doing it.
Christopher Lewis
Hope this is the right place to ask. What is a good but cheap airbrush for painting warhammer 40k models. I play Tau but do not have any big suits if that matters. I do have 2 remora drones and a barracuda if that matters. I also live in Australia so I would prefer a model or company rather than a link. Thanks in advance
Anthony Taylor
Then he should just play with people who are focused on winning instead of funning. Its not wrong, its just different.
Gabriel Butler
wut?
Levi Ramirez
this argument pops up often and is really saddening desu
you can play casual games and narrative campaigns with friends and have a good time
he can play competitive games and tournaments with friends and have a good time
IT IS POSSIBLE to engage in social interaction with people to talk about what kind of match you're keen for in advance
the answer here just seems plainly obvious to me and should be to anyone who isn't deliberately trying to have a sad time
Chase Foster
I'm not saying he can't, he can play however he likes, only fags try and control other peoples lives. I'm just pointing out the system was made for narrative play, and calling someone a "whiny little cunt" for telling a new player to use the system for what it was made for makes him a massive faggot. But he is free to be a massive faggot, it's his god given right.
Carson Ross
>that feel when your bro got you limited edition 1k sons dice for christmas
silver and black marines with the iron cross so you can do both
do stone tiles or metal grates, also gold and eagles could work
Asher Phillips
This mentality almost killed AoS till GW wised up and made the GHB.
Brandon Nelson
Take model putty of choice, carve out tiles. Check out the prospero board for some inspiration.
John Turner
See I'm not saying that competive play is bad wrong fun, I'm saying the system was built for it.
Carter Morales
WAACfags are fine as long as they are playing other WAACfags.
If you show up ready to stomp someone's face in and they showed up to have a good time than that's a shitty situation.
Gee it's like you should be open with your opponent about the type of experience you want to get before you schedule/start a game or something.
Parker Price
To quote you: >casual and narrative play, which is the only type of play one should ever consider
Jaxson Rogers
exactly. casual play has no longevity. the novelty wears off quickly.
it's why casual video gamers will go through 100 video games in a year and competitive gamers will be happy playing and mastering their 1 or 2 games for a decade.
wargames are expensive and preparing your minatures is time consuming. AoS has this massive buy-in and time sink for something you'd quickly give up after you got bored.
Carson Hernandez
>implying a shitty rule system and horrendous fluff wasn't what almost killed AoS That game could have been purely competive focused and it would not have changed a god damn thing, a 4 page rule set by GW will never turn out well.
Tyler Gomez
but if i notify my opponent he might turn down my skyhammer spam list.
Eli Jones
before they added the handbook, I should clarify - and even then it's one fucking flimsy bandaid.
Owen Sanchez
This really. There is no wrongfun. You just need to find a playgroup that's looking for the same thing out of the game as you. 40kgen of course crosses both groups and so you get the tension.
Luke Johnson
mad about angron coming to save your pussy ass when I was kicking your shit in
Connor Butler
Yes, and? Should I have told a new player to go buy Taudar wraithknight plus riptide wing and only play hyper optimized lists? Is that what you would prefer people suggest?
Aaron Rodriguez
> a 4 page rule set by GW will never turn out well.
What about a two page rule set?
David Wilson
No I just don't think you should smugly act like everyone agrees with your worldview and then start arguments when you get called out on it.
Jonathan Green
>casual play has no longevity. the novelty wears off quickly. No, a shitty 4 page rule system that shat all over a beloved setting has no longevity. Focus on casual games was in no way the problem with AoS, seeing as both 40k and WHFB had that same focus and and are/were still competent rule systems.
Austin Reed
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Jose White
No. You could have said. "Depends on your playgroup. If you mostly play friendly narrative games Orks and IG are both great, have cool models, etc. etc."
Basically you deliberately baited the WAACfags with that comment and reaped what you sowed.
Colton Parker
So am I the only one always reading WAAC as Waagh! ?
Benjamin Cooper
Waagh at all cunts.
Aiden Lee
>your brother shoots you in the back because his new imaginary friends told him too
James Long
Posted this before, but what left-handed models are there? The 25th/30th anniversary models are, but what about the rest?
William Price
I really like the emperor's champion but i'm not fond of the black templar's chapter tactics, and i'd be mainly using scouts as an add-on to an inquisitor and his human task force. Iron hands has a hella nice chaptertactics and the idea of a cheap hq and techmarines bringing the scouts along and being festooned with relics also amuses me.
Ryan Richardson
I never once said that everyone agrees with my worldview. I disparaged those who don't. And considering tourneyfags are a cancer on the game responsible for such great contributions as riptide wing, gravhammer, scatbike spam, SMASHFUCKER PRIME, screamerstar, etc. etc. I stand by my insult. Feel free to play WAAC lists, but deal with the fact that I will call you a faggot for doing it. That said, if two players agree to play that, all power to them.
Jonathan Foster
not sure, but marines are ambidextrous
Thomas Green
>chaos gods >imaginary
are you still stuck in the great crusade user
Landon Anderson
you can use the emperor's champion model as a count-as chapter master, unless it's the rules you like, in which case you're stuck.
Julian Price
Looking for Deathwatch modeling advice.
Should I bother with making any of my veterans close combat units, or should I just use terminators for that? I was thinking of having a unit maxed out on frag cannons, a close combat unit with a blackshield, and the last unit being equipped with shotguns/flamers.
I have no idea what I'm doing.
Hunter Carter
of course they're imaginary dont you trust your local priest?
Hudson Thompson
I'm still waiting to decide between 30k and 40k Thousand Sons so I'm only theory crafting but it seems super hard to make a good TS list under 2000 points. My list here is 1995 with the Exalted loci of Creation (which the builder doesnt appear to have) on the Herald allowing the horrors to split twice. Anyone else got any ideas/criticism?
Also Thousand Sons have been out for a bit now so who's played a game with/against them? How did it go?
Christian Murphy
What's the best option for storing and transporting minis that doesn't involve paying GW $100+ dollars for a glorified briefcase made of plastic?
James Wilson
Only if you invest in a Corvus.
Jack Lopez
So, the Forge World puzzle jigsaw is.....?
This looks like an axe.
Or maybe it's Magnus's glaive? That was like a giant axe thing in Blanche's art? Magnus was suppose to be the next Forge World Primarch.
Thoughts?
Lincoln Foster
Maybe in the future. What about beacon/drop pod shenanigans?
Carson Bennett
Khorne daemon prince.
Dominic Thomas
Also: Opinions on shotguns & heavy combi-flamers for a squad?
Levi Thomas
I want to mathammer Emperor's Champion vs Brotherhood Champion. Then maybe Emperor's Champion vs Crowe.
Wonder who wins.
Cooper Sanchez
Is that a new starter set?
Justin Jenkins
Ah. I seem to have missed that picture. What other models have I missed then?
Thanks for that though. Is it a generic or a named one or what? It has a shield. I don't think any DP's, AoS or 40k can use shields?
Easton Reyes
Pay some other company $100+ dollars for a glorified briefcase. You get what you pay for with carrying cases. If you're too cheap for that then just used a cardboard box with eggcrate foam / toolbox with eggcrate foam.
Connor Sullivan
We don't know, that was at the Amsterdam open day, and all that's known is Daemon Prince of Khorne.
Matthew Allen
>want to collect Deathwatch >love Cassius' Kill Team >see Deathwatch release >all excited >then notice the models have gorgets on their power armour
Dropped. Even if I liked the gorget, Cassius' team doesn't have that armour type so it wouldn't uniform in.
Hudson Nelson
No. It's a special line of 40k products designed to be sold at toy stores.
Andrew Bell
To anyone who got it, would picking up two Armored Claws give me enough GSC decoration bits to do up a Guard Sentinel and Russ? Want to put Cavalcade together.
Grayson Cooper
Competitive hammer might be cancer, but I still felt like a hard mother fucker that time when a dude pulled out inquisition/imperial guard list with wryvens and tanks out the ass against my poor little skitarri and I held him to a tie.
Levi Rodriguez
The minis are the old Black Reach starter set ones.
Caleb Morris
Probably. They also make a GSC Russ that comes with the upgrade sprue too.
Lincoln Jenkins
The Battle for Vedros stuff has been out since early this year.
It's basically the old Assault on Black Reach kits but with new simplified rules (two pages) and fewer references to the more grimdark elements of the universe.
They're sold in Toy and Hobby stores that don't traditionally carry GW stuff. The idea is to get kids or people with no knowledge of 40K eased in to the game at a low cost (that kit is only $50) with easy to put together minis (they're all pushfit) to try and get them to later transition into the regular 40K rules and gametypes.
Hunter Russell
Hmm. Thanks. Probably named then.
Cameron Gray
I'm aware, but Russes are available really cheap on ebay and so I'd rather just pick one of them up while buying the great package deal from the store.
The GSC Russ box art does look really spiffy though.
Ian Bailey
>2016 >Still believing it is impossible to have fun by playing a competitive game >Still being a competitive player that is so bad he must pretend winning strategies are against the rules in order to justify to himself why he keeps losing, and to give himself a chance to win >Still trying to ruin edh and Warhammer with your passive aggressive bullshit
"""casuals"""" like you are the worst.
Ayden Wilson
Most likely.
Logan White
Dark angels are the best chapter hands down
>1st legion >chased down Konrad Cruze like a dog >fucks him up >purges his ranks of traitors >only space marine legion to not seriously get BTFO during the horus heresy. >It takes the dirty trickery of all the chaos gods plus luther to take him out >gets blown up and spirited through the warp and survives
meanwhile the "ultra" marines primarch got stabbed with a slightly dirty dagger and now is fucked up.
pic fucking related, there is no cooler image of two primarchs fighting
Isaiah Butler
>2016 >not reading the thread
Juan Sanders
slaaneshi or nurgle daemonkin fucking when GW?
Daniel Richardson
I've actually been eying the $50 skirmish case because my army is small, but it looks dumb as fuck with all of those weird lines on the outside. I already take the bus to the gamestore I don't want there to be any more reasons for me to look like an idiot.
Not to mention having a giant CITADEL logo on the side is a good "STEAL ME" sign for anyone who knows how expensive Warhammer models are.
Oliver Lewis
Gotcha. As long as you stick to one big emblem per vehicle two claws will give you enough for 2 Chimeras, a Russ, and a Sentinel even if you give them all visible tank commanders.
Logan Lopez
>dark angels >chapter why are you lying to yourself user
Carson King
they are too busy with SOB and Deathwatch to pump out a new codex
ya they released some new nurgle models when AOS hit but besides that they would have to make new casts
Brayden Wright
>Talking about fluff >Using BL shit Pick one.
Kayden Carter
I did. It makes no difference, """casual""".
Eli Ward
Death Guard are rumored since "Deathguard Green" paint showed up in the Christmas Gift Guide.
Lincoln Lewis
except that models have literally piss poor resell value?
I can go down to my game store and buy a set of tactical marines for 35 bucks, or by the same marines assembled for 15 or less on ebay.
Angel Stewart
Fucking disgusting heretics.
Your Legion-building, Fallen-hiding, Xenos-loving days are over soon.
Michael Peterson
Would love to see deathguard
they are hands down my favorite looking Chaos models. People go nuts with making them look like disgusting puss fill heaps of shit, its awesome.
Mason Lopez
Has anyone run a vanquisher cannon, lascannon and multi meltas in a GSC army? Considered the load out on my second tank for my GSC
Leo Hill
>it's a /pol/tard acts like a faggot episode Nobody said you couldn't have fun playing either way. Nobody said you couldn't play either or both ways. I know that retardation is common amongst /pol/acks, but at least try to apply yourself
Charles Thompson
Yet, there is, and continues to be, a /aosg/
Andrew Fisher
Even the smallest Citadel carrying case can hold 60+ infantry plus a bunch of vehicles.
Logan Ortiz
Repostan my murder talon list because I only got retard replies bitching about lack of raptors Warband Chaos Lord, Stormbolt armour, power fist, aura of dark glory, Jump Pack Sorcerer, ML3, Termy armour, Force Stave
Chaos Termies, 3 men, 2 Chainfists, combi-plas all around
2X Chosen, 5 man, 4 plasma guns, Dreadclaw
Warp Talons, 6 men
Helbrute, Reaper Autocannon
2X 10 man CSM squads, 2 Meltagun, combi melta sarge with bombs, Extra CCW
Spawn
Grayson Harris
except their were basically the only chapter to see through horus's bullshit about scattering the loyalist legions
>heritics >basically prevented the entire imperium from falling apart during the horus heresy
David Barnes
Anons, how is the Pyromancy and/or Divination tables? I want to start up a ML1 Psyker heavy 30k WB army, and I thought a trio of dudes given 'Holy and Divine Flames' or the power to divine their foes sounded cool.
How would you rate either of those disciplines?
Adam Rivera
Why does everyone including 40k fans shit on this general?
Nathan Morgan
That was 10,000 years ago, today you kill loyal Impeial citizens, Inquisitors and fellow Space Marines, basically have an entire Legion and consort with Xenos and let them in on all your secrets, that you kill Imperials for learning.
You're a bunch of renegades and need to be stopped.
Grayson Gutierrez
I don't like the Space Marine motorcycles, but I like their capabilities.
Thinking of replacing them with these since my group is fine with plays as rules as long as they aren't cheese (since these would be bigger than the bikes I don't think that would be an issue).
Nolan Thompson
Reposting my trial paint scheme for critic. Haven't thought of a name yet either. How do people come up with the lore behind their armies anyway?
Daniel Ortiz
I mean, I guess. But seeing as the WHFB General is more alive, that's not saying much
Cooper Martin
What does pol have to do with anything? Are you retarded or something?
I just know your type m8. Seen enough of you in Warhammer or edh. You're fun police, but your real goal is to set up the rules of the game such that only you can win. You don't actually care about fun, just winning. Except you're so bad at the game, the only way for you to win is to try and outlaw every strategy that beats you. You'll very carefully construct a definition of casual to exclude everything good you don't play, but coincidentally include everything good you do play.
Things will be alright, and you'll largely be ignored in your local community, until a second player like you comes along and tries to declare the stuff you use as antifun. Then shit hits the fan.
"""Casual""" players like you, if not ignored, destroy local gaming communities.
Xavier Rivera
absolutely disgusting.
I love it.
Adam Campbell
What 40k fan was shitting on here? Because as bad as this place may be, it leagues better than anywhere else on the internet.
Isaiah Hernandez
It's the rule of generals. Those who post in it hate those who post in it, and so they post.
Matthew Parker
Following this, whats the most competitive way of running solo deathwatch