Warhammer 40,000 general

Don't then, that's the new in thing

>not wanting to paint best Legion

Wulfen get Rage, FNP, can run and charge (without having to take a fucking specific Warlord and only once a game) and can reroll everything on charges except for 1 AND they get their attacks regardless of whether they're killed.

Orks should get all of that. It's completely fitting with their fluff.

if you are running a melee tyrant already, why not run sky tyrant swarm?

>a cute girl asks you if you want to play against her new SW army
>she puts pic related on the table and says they're Wulfen

What do you do.

wulfen are ridicious, they have to be in the top 5/10 melee units

They are the only reason I have faith that possessed might get fixed next time around.

gargs don't mix with flyrants well like that. they are for tarpitting. you'd think it would work hammer and anvil, but it ends up you getting charged because it has a massive footprint and your melee flyrant not getting where he needs to go

Play and beg for a decent moment to ask her out.

>Wulfen with Great Frost Axe

>5 attacks on the charge at Str 8 Ap2 at Initiative 5, with 4+ save, rerolling all charge rolls, can Run and Charge, gets attacks even if killed in close combat, and can fight twice as a result of this, Feel No Pain, Counter-Attack, Acute Senses, Immunity to Fear and Sweeping Advance, Auto-Rally, Rage.

>38 points

>Nob with Power Klaw

>4 attacks on the charge at Str 9 Ap2 at Initiative 1 with a 6+ save, rerolling 1 die when charging and Mob Rule.

>43 points

I WILL NEVER NOT BE MAD ABOUT THIS

I would hit on her with my social skills

Those models just scream danger
shes a fury user,

wulfen is the wet dream of a furry fucker. They should name and shame the gamedesigner that made those rules, fucking disgusting.

>"Lol Space Yiffs? Nice army fag"

All women are furies.

bloodcrushers are 45 points. somewhere khorne is mad jealous that he doesn't have wulfen fighting in his name while the emperor does

Didn't know there was new thread, just made all these replies :(

kek

All kidding aside, those things are as big as Daemon Princes, for some reason.

Deploy my own SW and clash both armies in glorious combat, yiff together and have a son named Bjorn Lupo McWolfson

Fuck her right in the pussy

>Str 9
Well there you go user, S9 ain't free ya know

>playing Dark Eldar
> i-imagine if the true eldar, and they captured a wolfen, and like, heh, like, heh, heh....
Wanna hang out some time?

God I hate wulfen so fucking much, those and the damn stormfangs.

My buddy brings them every game and I don't know what to do

Same fucker that made thousand sons into the shittiest traitor legion probably made the wulfen book as well. Fucker on the right, he gives rubrics an ap4 flamer and has the gall to charge for it, removes the only good options from the sorcerers and adds 70p to the exalted sorcerer just because it gets a fucking one use melta, puts a 650p price on magnus and makes sure you HAVE to take him in a 1ks detachment or hes stuck with a 4++ save, no fnp. I wish i could meet this fucker and spit on him

40k is in the midst of their End Times right now. It will not result in a complete reboot of its lore, like WHFB suffered. 40k's End Times will never actually end. It's going to be like the Horus Heresy series. People are going to return and die-off, but it will be at an excruciatingly long pace. Expect a constant stream of minor updates. A la Black Legion update-> Traitor's Hate-> Traitor Legions. Better hope your faction sells well enough to get put into an Astartes (Chaos or Loyalist) campaign arc.

stop playing him user, its the only way they learn.

>magnus
>bad

My sides have transcended Apache and time anom

you can see this is a wannabe viking neckbeard, furry as fuck

>he didn't see Magnus get 1 shot
>he didn't see TS get tabled turn 3

>A model can do really well if it surpasses astronomical odds

okay

Magnus as the new win-condition for extant Flying Circus builds isn't exactly good news for those that wanted the ability to have a good game pushing some Thousand Sons Rubricae around the table.

Working on building a Black Legion army and was wondering which is better as an auxiliary choice, terminator annihilation force or a raptor talon? Leaning towards raptors for T1 assaults

650p model without stomp, fnp, immunity to D/poison, with a 4++ save and no guns.
>good
>hmm should i take a taunar, 2 wraithknights, 2 stormsurges, a battle company, a fucking warhound titan. Or a ml5 caster with a 4++ save that you cant put on the ground because he will get tarpitted/stomped/just faceraped by any tough unit immediately.
Fuck, twc would just straight up kill him.

Magnus is good, as long as you don't play TS and build your army around him, I agree.

But he is not awesome enough that you would have to be retarded to not take him.

>mfw this traitors believe they can match the sons of Russ
>mfw I stopped caring about their name calling when I just beat the living shit of them with SW
Your tears and hate only make me stronger

It's his buddy, dude. That's how most of these games are played- with your buddies. Thus, getting your buddy to change his style of play is a bit more complicated and demands tact.

I hate how Veeky Forums imagines that all games are played in some kind of huge store environment where your opponent is someone you don't know or care about and when they put down something cheesy you can shriek "YOU'RE WHAT'S WRONG THIS GAME, FUCKO! I'M NOT PLAYING!"

In all seriousness, I have a friend who uses Necron Wraiths (in the formation that gives them re-animation) all the time and it drives me nuts. Sometimes I ask him not to bring them, but then I give him veto rights on one of my units as well.

Or we play a more narrative style, where sometimes it doesn't make sense for him to have wraiths. That's the answer. If this guy is your buddy, tell him to play something else for a change for a bit.

Why would you take magnus? hes just a WC hog that can only take change/tzeentch which arent very good. a 650p model that might in 4 turns kill a normal knight, using up about 13 wc every turn. great.

>Bjorn Lupo McWolfson

Can't let you do that, Star Wolf!

This right here, along with thunder yiff cav are why I hate space yiffs

then he needs to talk to him. I have a group of 5 friends and when we get sick of playing the same thing we tell them, and they change it.

Or they don't and I don't play him anymore.

Alright then Bjorn Vllalobos

Knock all the models off the table and then fuck her in the raw in the middle of the store.

Raptors. Talon is lackluster, but at least Assault from Deepstrike Raptors can do well in some settings.

If you want more Termicide, max out your Terminator slots in the Warband first. Potential PE is stronger than potentially maybe getting to throw some Plasma at a Riptide before it annihilates you. Plus, the double-rolls on Boons is great. Frankly, if you want to run Terminators, take the Black Crusade detachment from Traitor's hate instead. ObSec terminators for mid-late game objective grabs, with enough firepower to clear some light-medium infantry or a vehicle are pretty swell.

Liking SW is its own punishment.

we had a tau/wulf player that would never stop bringing waacfag lists, "oh i wanted to try this" double stormsurge/riptide wing/TL-ignores cover coldstar bullshit/wulfen-twc-barkbarks
i told him its not fun to play him and now ive left the gaming group, waiting for it to die off.

Girls do get turned on by RAW fags.

...

"Oh no, those were metal!"

Ha, not that user but we have a faggot that won't stop from WAAC every fucking game, he's the reason some of the new guys leave the group, I just pour every wolf I have down his throat every time I have the chance, it's hilarious because he is also a sore loser that will get incredibly mad when he lose and that rage is hilarious.

Deploy mechanized infantry across from them. Try to force a charge into a transport to buy time. Deploy a fast high priority target to draw fire from the transports/troops, dying in the process if need be. Play for the objectives. Hope that Ahriman can do enough damage with Witchfires.

>Compliment the minis, ask questions that will allow her to gush about the backstory to her bullshit custom chapter
>Listen intently. Play a good game, set up another some time.
>Make reference to stuff she described in earlier games so she knows I care.
>Above all keep cool, don't rush.
>Invite her out to a super casual drink or something like it's no big deal.
>Have a good time, repeat this process until she's thoroughly seduced.
>Leave forever because you remember she's a space wolf player and thus is a fat ugly neo-pagan with no taste.

The fact that so many people would play against non-official GW models is disturbing.

>Liking SW is its own blessing
FTFY
I know user, they're incredibly flexible, I don't even need wulfen or thunderwolves, I can go with only grey hunters with long fangs and dreads and have a blast of a game, only to go full retard when the WAAC fag of our group shows up.

strange how is the WAACfag playing himself?

you dont even realise that youre that waacfag, sad

I've been hit with the desire to do WH40K fanfiction.

Then I realized it really could work better as its own thing.

I feel terrible that if I work on it, I'm effectively just refluffing existing WH stuff and making it Original Product Donut Steel.

I mean I know every element that exists in 40K is part of other story universes, but there's generic characteristics and then there's OBVIOUS inspiration.

That's not how you attract girls you faggot

why

>Make your cover saves bitch! *rips off panties*
>Hah, failed! Time to roll for penetration!

Just write it but don't put it anywhere to get it out of your system.
If the urge ever strikes you again just look at what you wrote the first time to convince yourself otherwise.

yeah i hear leaving forever doesn't have a good success rate

What will it mean, user?

If it's just going to be bolterporn, don't bother.

You forgot to make her eat some eggs

because autism

Its also strange how many SW players in this thread haven't realized they are part of the problem

It could be good if you stopped thinking about it as fanfiction and made it an actually decent story that was simply set in the 40k universe. 40k as a setting is far more supportive of "fanfiction" than say LotR or anime. You're SUPPOSED to create stories in this setting.

Yea their rules are great. Too bad they're the most retarded HUGEMANS Mary Sues among the most retarted, most HUGEMANS Mary Sues in practically all of fiction.

If the Space Wolves were a crazy as fuck guard regiment, I'd be all about them. But Space Wolves even existing shits up the entire Imperium lore by just going "LOL NOPE OUR GUYS DON'T DO ANY OF THAT BUT ARE INSTEAD ACTIVE HERETICS AND MUTANTS LOL"

>why are you doing this

Everytime

>tfw you manage to remove her 25% cover and successfully penetrate, but you're the one that explodes

By mean, do you mean "what is the story saying?"

The story isn't about space marines, tho. It's about life on a system of closely related worlds and one asteroid outpost. So, "A few agriworlds, a voidborn ship, and one Daemon World."

the story involves a culture incredibly influenced by North American protestant pilgrims and their habit of making sacred geometric symbols with glass working to ward off daemons. And how incredibly necessary and dangerous it is to exist there.

HOW DOES GIRL?

>implying they ever will

Can't wait for the Wulfen to show up on Cadia

>Chapter Master Grimnar, you do understand that the point of this entire operation is to keep creatures like that OFF the surface of the planet?

>If the Space Wolves were a crazy as fuck guard regiment

user

not only did you get quads but you also inspired the fuck out of me

think Catachan as a home planet but snowy

Eldars
>always scatterbikes
>always D scythe on wave serpent
>always warp spiders
>always other D units
>bought a wraithknight recently

>take solar auxilia axe dudes
>give them space wolf bits
>put them in a Stormlord

fund it

I never use the TWC, wulfen or shielded dreads with the rest of the group user, if you call me WAAC fag for using grey hunters and long fangs then your faggotry is beyond the charts.

>grey hunters and long fangs

That just means you were a WAACfag in 5E and simply never updated your army.

forgive my newbness but I thought a great deal of the point of the imperium was that it was exactly like that. "Do as I say, not as I do. Power and fascism means rules apply to the little people, but not institutions." That sometimes the pillars of society make rules they don't follow, and it's not a matter of beating them back in line, but tolerating the fact you can't.

I thought that was what the wolves represented. Obstinate independence in a rigid hierarchy, tolerated because it's both loyal and because destroying it to bring it in line would eliminate its effectiveness, which they desperately need.

It's pathetic, but there's ultimately nothing they can do. Much like the compromises Holy Terra makes with the adeptus mechanicum compromising the holy human form with mutations, mechanical parts and more.

yeah thats pretty annoying, sorry your eldar player is like that
>they all aren't

>5e
Ah, so you're one of those still butthurt from 5th?
>opinion discarded
Go cry me a river faggot, yes they were good but the only truly broken unit back then were the TWC, grey hunters were just multi purpose units and one long fang shooting other unit? Oh so broken please nerf!

Are dark eldar still playable?

Yes since they aren't force to snap fire from a jinking vehicle.

You're right, but those things are supposed to be closely guarded secrets. The guardsman is supposed to SUSPECT that maybe the world isn't exactly as his superiors tell him it is.

The Dark Angels are supposed to raise eyebrows. The Space Wolves just totally shatter the genre by just flaunting it out in the open.
The dark angels showed up out of nowhere and saved this planet, but why did they take over that hive city and not let any other imperial forces in for days? Could their motives be...impure?

HEY YA INQUISITOR FAGS, THE WOLFS ARE HERE! WATCH ME SWILL BOOZE WITH MY BUDDY WHO IS A WEREWOLF WEARING POWER ARMOR! WE HAVE A REPUTATION FOR HATING AUTHORITY, BUT IN THE GREAT CRUSADE WE WERE ESSENTIALLY THE GESTAPO! HA HA!

Sure are, I just won a tournament with them last week

everything is playable, whats your tolerance level for losing though?

Yeah, weird that DA and SW are so closely tied when the Wolves make the Angels look like total tools for being so paranoid.

What would happen if someone made slaanesh climax? Would it be like a new eye of terror? What if a pariah made it to slaanesh and fucked her/him/it?

This is how you ascend to Daemon Prince.