Tell me about Slaanesh and his worshipers. What makes him dangerous? He seems more harmless than the other chaos gods

>What makes him dangerous

there's a hentai called "Emergeance", you should read it to know what happens to people worshipping slaanesh

True, really I was just referring to the targeting of emotions and mind-altering drugs and addictions.

How is Khrone not the strongest god at all times.

If you think about it, a god who gains power from murderskull fucking, would gain a shit load of power almost all the time from the never ending murderskull fucking that is 40k.

>Sex? How about Furry Guro Snuff Orgies that reads like ShinDol meets Jack(the furry Webcomic) don't feel like going that far? That's fine, we'll start with a Catgirl harem and go from there.

You know there are some worlds in the fold of the Imperium that have never known war or strife and can delve into the arts and other acts of refinement.

Imagine you are a young musician of meager but noble birth being of a lower house. However, you were found to be a genius of music and were readily accepted into the highest school of music on the planet. You skill was such that you could even take a teaching position but already you could feel the plateau and you hadn't even turned 20 yet.

Such was a dread you felt. Could you become better? You've already mastered all there was and it simply wasn't enough. However you try your best to tamp down the impending crisis of self for the sake of others around you.

One day, while out in the lush green field enjoying a picnic with your fellows from school you laugh and eat and play and, as one of youth should, decide to adventure into the shaded woods you were always told as children to stay clear of...

Plus the youngest god covers excess not just sexual but Michael Jackson level plastic surgery addiction, as well as the desire to perfect your craft. If a warrior studies his swordsmanship to the exclusion of other important skills, that can attract the attention of the dark prince. Same with being a primping Pretty boy. In Warhammer fantasy there was a Champion of the excessive One who Carried a Shiluof of polished silver so he could admire his own beauty while killing people.

No, Murderskull Fucking is Slaanesh. It's a fine line between killing for the sake of killing, and killing because you enjoy it.

Oh, okay. Guess I was confused because of how violent and impactful his/her/its birth has been described, you know, the whole Eye of Terror thing. It's been a while since I read up on newer Chaos fluff

On that note, before i make further further errors, how does Fulgrim stack up as his/her/its champion compared to the other Gods'. I know Angron gets shit done (or at least that's the meme I keep hearing)

You trek through the woods, past the thorned branches and damp floor covered in moist fallen leaves. The light barely penetrates through the thick cover of trees and shadows and darkness seem to stretch into eternity. It is then you stumble and you come across a lonely stone set beside a gnarled tree. At a glance it would seem as nothing but you and your friends stop to look and you see the stone has a strange symbol upon it and the tree's bark seems to form a shape. one friend imagines it as the portrait of a beautiful woman. Another imagines the perfect portrait of a landscape. but you? You see sounds and notes, as if the perfect song was written in the cold and hard bark.

When you return and write the notes in your notebook you begin to play and suddenly it's as if everything opened up to you. "yes, I can still get better," You say to yourself. You play the song for others and they too are astounded by your ever growing genius. You find yourself composing scores and sonatas and overtures that are swifly added to the annuls of the greats.

Within a few years you have become and innovator of the art such that nobles from nearby planets come to the world to hear your music and it's all thanks to that stone...

>It's a fine line between killing for the sake of killing, and killing because you enjoy it.

Following some asshole down an alley, raping them then slitting their throat pleases slaanesh.

Popping a warboner while mowing down fifty men with a machine gun pleases khrone.

And there is a hell of a lot more people dying on battlefields in 40k than there are getting murdered.

Slaanesh is the slippery slope towards madness, perversion, and sin.

With Khorne, your bloodlust may be sated, if only for a moment.
With Tzeentch, his plots can and usually ARE foiled (mostly be himself), one's lust for power can be satisfied
With Nurgle, his diseases can be cured, or at the very least quarantined.

Slaanesh though? There's only one direction, you can never walk back from, only stop. You start off with your piteous desires, to be the perfect painter, to embrace the pleasures of the flesh, the pleasures of food, sloth, pride, and it only gets worse. You'll burn your nerves out seeking ever greater sensation, you'll destroy your precious art seeking something truly "unique", your innards will burst as you try newer and more food.

If you want an idea of what this is like, simply go get some ice cream with *everything* on it. Chocolate chips, waffle cone, sprinkles, peanutbutter cups, all of it. Take a bite afterwards, and you'll end up with merely a *thing* you can barely taste.

Slaanesh is always there, pushing you to the next debauched step. If you consume porn on a fairly regular basis, you can look back on how far you've gone, from simply nude pictures, to sex, to fetishes, to increasingly disturbing "kinks". Whereas once the female form alone was enough to satisfy you, now you aren't entertained unless you're watching some catboy trap get skullfucked by a bunch of tentacles.

There's no END to Slaanesh's desires, you'll keep doing more and more perverted things until, at last, your nerves are burned out and you're left a gelatinous blob that can barely be called "human" anymore.

>In Warhammer fantasy there was a Champion of the excessive One who Carried a shield of polished silver so he could admire his own beauty while killing people.

That would be Sigvald the Magnificent.

As far as I know Fulgrim hasn't really done much other than wound Guilliman that one time.

Angron had his whole rampage, Magnus invaded Fenris twice (with the second time being pretty huge), Pert has done a few things.

Other than that the others are pretty inactive. Mort just sits around doing nothing for the most part, and Lorgar just mediates (though apparently he creates new daemon engines in his off times).

And do note that while the Daemon Princes are impressive, they aren't really the champions of the Chaos Gods. For one reason or another they prefer more mortal men to be their champions.

Like in Tzeentch's eyes Magnus is a really powerful tool and pawn, but Ahriman is without a doubt his chosen champion. Bit weird, but I suppose the Gods think they are more interesting or something.

iirc after you die in uneventful service of the chaos gods:
>eternal rage and bloodlust with Khorne
>eternal torture and violation with Slaanesh
>eternal depression and sorrow with Nurgle
>eternal non stop change leading to insanity with Tzeentch

Pretty shit deal overall senpai. Dunno what happens if you're chaos undivided, do they all just take turns fucking your soul?

The Years go by and the old dark woods that was the source of childhood fields now because the site of your home, a glorious mansion that serves as a school and studio and a museum to your art.

The construction of the house was such that you had it built around the tree and the stone and daily you venture into your garden and sit by the tree to gain new inspiration but with time comes quit and you begin to realize that the font of creation you tapped is going dry. "I must research and find a new sound." you say and the next few years see you in isolation in your mansion making what few needed appearances you must but always looking and researching and playing but more and more are you denied the satisfaction you felt the first time you found the tree and the stone...

You are tired, old, and alone. You name is revered but you are a mere husk, a shell of the great musician that came from nothing and brought the most beautiful sounds to the ears of others. They tell you the music you make is beautiful, perfect even but all you feel is disgust. you could scratch your long nails against a board and they would call it music. They cannot understand, no one can understand what perfect music sounds like.

As you walk about your lonely mansion ever do your eyes turn to the garden and then you feel a familiar and nostalgic feeling of gazing upon it the first time. You approach and the bark feels different. Now instead of the notes you wrote down in your journel you feel a sensation, a vision, and understanding...Yes. Now you know how to obtain the perfect sound...

Because traitor primarchs aren't winners.

This is a major problem with becoming a daemon prince. Once you become timeless, you just sorta... lose focus. It's very common for those guys to just sorta sit around and scheme, or do other random bullshit instead of what their actual plans were back when they were mortal. Primarchs in particular seem prone to this, but I think some of that has to do with the difficulty they have even leaving the Eye. Actually summoning Angron to Armageddon was a phenomenal investment, for instance.

It's one of the reasons Abbadon hasn't ever gone through with it, because he's got a job to do. (It's not the only reason, though.)

A whole lot of violence doesn't contribute meaningfully to him, and some types of violence contribute to the other gods despite that generally being his purview.

Chaos is essentially just emotions, and the Gods embody and draw power from certain types. Intent matters, as does magnitude.

A swordsman who kills lots of people but does it because he wants to be the best fucking swordsman ever and wants everyone to know and praise him for it is probably closer to Slaanesh, a sorcerer blasting entire squads of Guardsmen into bloody chunks is not helping Khorne because he's not about the gay magic shit.

A million Guardsmen and Tau pew-pewing each other to death won't likely give him anything because such a conflict is largely impersonal, stuff like that is happening all the time without causing random Khornesplosions. Orks won't give him power because their emotions operate on an entirely different wavelength than 'umies and they've got their own dedicated warp gods to match.

It's not the boner that pleases Khorne, r-right?

>Born from the Eldar
Fucking 40k faggot.
You're a blight on the franchise, and any time you ever complain that GW is fucking your hobby up in any way it's because you and those like you exist.

Nah, the boner is simply a means.

The Hatefucking is what does it. You ever been so angry at something you want to fuck it?

Ragefucking someone to death has Khornes seal of approval.

Just don't try to prefect it or do anything other than combat stims. That's degenerate territory.

Slaanesh is a god of "excess", or rather, a god of Gluttony which puts her into a really favorable position for the most dangerous to the Imperium. St. Augustine makes a point of saying that Virtue is done in relation to the beloved, IE a person. Gluttony is dangerous because it supplants the beloved and substitutes a real person for a thing. This leads to breakdown of communities by pushing people into selfish isolation.

Slaanesh is the god of these "little horrors", like pointed out their the things that snowball. The horror of gluttony is that it starts to overtake aspects of your until that's all there is to your life. You know those people. Their the ottokues, the gym rats, the motor heads the fashionistas. All of them have started cutting people out of their lives in an urge for More.

And that's why Slaanesh freaks the fuck out of us.

>implying Gork and Mork aren't Khrone & Tzeentch on an urban youth outreach program

I remember he successfully fends off Slaanesh whenever Slaanesh tries to bone Isha.

What about malal? Do you just like, chill out and play board games or take turns raping each other?

Slaanesh is dangerous because pic related can happen.

I admit I am not up to par with the best information and accept being wrong on stuff. So instead of just bashing me, why don't you please educate me so i stop being an unwitting faggot

>What about malal?

Spend every single second of every single wondering if you exist and if anyone cares anymore.

A fate worse then all the others combined.

So by my count, he's fucked seven of his progeny, and had kids with all of them?

Just one looooong existential angst session in a room with grey wallpaper

>nurgle is just a fat neckbeard trying to protect his waifu

endearing.

>Hello darkness my old friend

What about Chaos Undivided?

So, basically...

Multiple posts there are repeats.

>pic related

Slaneesh is also the an aspect of obsession.
The artist who does nothing but paint using his skin as canvas and blood of his love as paint after he ran out of material.
The dancer who continue dances long after his feet have turned into bloody stumps.
The killer who kills for nothing but to make the perfect cut.

Once long ago there was a game before Age of Sigmar where Slaanesh was a god the same as the others, that game was called Warhammer Fantasy but, being both less profitable than black paint and almost never being discussed anywhere unlike 40K, was shitcanned.

Once that happened a whooooole load of people started wanting to discuss it everywhere like it was the best thing ever and like they'd been supporting it all along but it didn't matter, doesn't matter and will never matter because its 'fans' never supported it while they had a chance to make that mean a damn thing.

To worship Slaanesh is to pursue your own obsessions to the point of violent self-destruction

At the vicious, climactic end of your life, the reward for your devotion to Slaanesh is your soul's eternal damnation

>fat neckbeard imprisoning his waifu because he thinks that he protects her
fixed

In WFB, one of his daemon princes was able to make enemies surrender to him before they even got a chance to fight. One Questing Knight allowed himself to be beheaded, thinking that somehow it was totally justified for the daemon to do so.

The Emperor's Children raped literally millions of people during the Siege of Terra (pretty strongly implied in their Traitor Legions blurb, anyway).

Hellraisers.

>being this mad

So if Slaanesh draws on your obsessions, is Apathy the ultimate weapon against him/her/them/it/[pronoun here]?

If so, why isn't Nurgle his/her/their/its opposite instead of Khorne?

I thought they rent millions down into hyper drugs to get high, frenzy, and turn more people into drugs to get even more high

Nurgle isn't as much apathy as despair, and the odd strength that comes from hopelessness and ceasing to care about what happens.

Slaanesh's desire may not work well with that, but Khorne's anger draws him to destroy anything and everything, even allies. Khorne takes joy in the spilling of blood, Slaanesh takes joy in the sensation or skill of the kill. Khorne is base in a way that means it will never be refined further, where Nurgle worshipers can shift from slowing progress down, to stagnancy, to reversal of progress.

In short, Khorne is immune to an increase of obsession - he's only got an on or off switch with no gradients, where Slaanesh lives for every single gradient.

How many times does it have to be said, Nurgle is not the chaos god of disease; Nurgle is the chaos god of stagnation and despair.

Nurgle just uses disease to foster those aspects. Nurgle does not depend on diseases or plagues sweeping through the galaxy to gain power.

>A society cannot thrive if everyone is too focused on pure, unadulterated degeneracy

>However the reason why Slaanesh and its followers are so dangerous is because they lack restraint. It sounds pretty simple, but as unfathomable as the Chaos gods can be they do have standards.
Khorne and his berserkers say, "Hello" and also "Blood for the blood god."

Few of the gods followers know restraint within their sphere.

And Slaanesh is not about "pleasure", Slaanesh is about sensation. Yes, there is a difference. For Slaaneshi followers it often stems from drugs and sex, but just as many wind up trying to feel anything, good or bad.

she's an eldar(dark eldar) god that all you need to know why he/she/it dangerous

you can thank the arrogant eldars for their ELDAR TESTOSTERONE behavior during and after the fall making slaanesh a chaos god

>being this mad because a tranny hit you for a fight you started in the first place while slaanesh is about to finish off an eldar war god

this guy god of war or autism?

But tzeentch is canonically the 2nd most powerful.

Alright, let's resolve this. In 40k, because Betterhammer was irrevocably ruined by GW and Slaanesh isn't even in Age of Sigmar.

Tzeentch is powered by ambition; canonically he was the strongest during the Dark Age of Technology, and the other gods had to team up (plus the Eldar fucked over humanity, who he got most of his power from) to end his supremacy.

Khorne is powered by mortal bloodlust and rage. This should make him the weakest, to be honest, since most species in the setting don't feel bloodlust or rage that often (and the ones that do feel it all the time, the Orks, send theirs to their own gods), but whatever, I guess a war god is better at using what he has in a fight.

Slaanesh is powered by the pursuit of excess. Not simply pleasure, but the obsessive egoism and self-gratification an individual displays beyond the norm gives power to Slaanesh. Slaanesh was briefly the strongest after gorging on the souls of the Eldar, but there aren't that many Eldar souls lying about to snack on these days, so Slaanesh has gone from strongest to usually weakest.

Nurgle is powered by the fear of death. He (alongside Tzeentch) should be an order of magnitude more powerful than the other gods, but GW doesn't care. Canonically periodically overpowers the other gods during times when more people in the galaxy are fearing death than usual (considering the galaxy is an overpopulated hellhole on the precipice of utter destruction, I have no idea why he isn't top god right now) but contracts again when people stop fearing death.

Malal doesn't exist, because not even the power of Chaos can withstand the most feared of all beings; lawyers.

He lets you cuckold Beastmen.

Their rage destrpys civilization on a conceptual level.

>Guess I was confused because of how violent and impactful his/her/its birth has been described, you know, the whole Eye of Terror thing.
It's understandable. Slaanesh COULD have cemented itself in third or maybe even second place, if it'd played its cards right and consolidated the MASSIVE amount of power available to it in the form of, you know, the whole damn Eldar empire's worth of souls... but then it wouldn't be Slaanesh.

So instead it burned everything at once to very briefly eclipse the rest of the chaos gods put together, solo the Eldar pantheon, then go toe-to-toe with Khorne over who gets the fuck Khaine up the ass. Once the soul-bender wore off, the fact it'd just butchered it's own power base dropped it firmly into fourth place.

Name one thing that is not harmful in excess.

I'll wait.

Living an austere lifestyle. Or maybe collecting stamps.

Peace?

>I have no idea why nurgle isn't top god right now

thats because the imperium is losing fuckton of people for nurgle too leech off and ultima segmentum is still TEH BEST SEGMENTUM EVAH!

Moderation

40k and Fantasy have been connected since 1988/89/90 in Slaves to Darkness and Lost and the Damned

Next time try not to be such an asshole, especially when you're so wrong

>I will abandon all luxuries and sustain myself only with the bare necessities, even to the detriment of my happiness and security against changing circumstances
>I will collect ALL the stamps, everywhere! Now I'm off to rob the post office.

>I'd rather allow myself to be murdered than engage in violence

>I will employ a moderate and tempered response in all situations, even those in which an extreme response is necessary to ensure a favorable outcome

Except that overzealous mods killed the Veeky Forums that got shit done, user.

I miss moot.

Who?

Here's all you need to know about Slaanesh, OP

Watch this movie.

Going fast, like really fast, like so fast people will look at you and say wow, he's going really fast. And also, he's on speed.

Slaanesh is, more than any other Dark God, insidious. Each God has their own way to get the souls of the general masses. Nurgle pressgangs you with the threat of turning on the pain-switch on all the diseases that he himself made to draw you in, Tzeentch gives you an offer that you're too stupid to realize will screw you over, and Khorne riles you up into a frenzy. Slaanesh gets the average joe with addiction.

The average schmuck in 40k has a pretty bad life. Born poor, works their entire life and ends up nowhere - and that's if they're not the unlucky sods who get born as slaves, drafted, or raided by marauding aliens and pirates. Recreation offers a momentary release from the struggle of day to day life, and one day his friends tell him about this guy who came into town one day who really knows how to have fun. Kind, clean, charismatic, knows how to party, and he has drugs. He goes to a party, has the time of his life, and decides to start hanging out more. However, soon enough that stuff doesn't really appeal to him any more - he's grown numb to it. Luckily, that guy has some stronger stuff and starts coming up with new ways to have fun, so he keeps going. Repeat ad infinitum, and by the time he realizes he's a junkie and wants out either he doesn't have the willpower to suffer the withdrawal or he's outright sold his soul. Look at any area that struggles with drugs.

When approaching the upper class, however, Slaanesh appeals to their pride, narcissism, and comfort. You're the best on the block, and you know it. Rich, powerful, handsome, and everyone wants to be your friend - but, to be honest, everyone around here is kind of boring. Why not have some fun? Meet cooler people? After all - you deserve it.

>Speed

YOU MEAN COCAINE FUCKER

HE DOES COCAIINNNNEE

You just made me realize you could shamelessly rip off The Picture of Dorian Gray and insert it into 40k as a tale of slaneeshi corruption. And a lot of Gothic horror for that matter

If I feed my cat too much and he gets fat am I empowering Slaneesh?

Nah, cats are equal parts spite, laziness, guile, and gluttony. If anything it's chaos undivided.

The first one doesn't really sound that bad - you're living super humbly, sure, but unless you're living far from civilization, you'll survive.

Every day I wonder how long until that question is legitimate.

Already been done. Literally Fulgrim's backstory.

I don't think there is anything tying Nurgle to stagnation other than it can be the first step on the road to entropy, which he associated with.

Even that type of murder could empower Khorne somewhat because it's still murder. This is the kind of murky stuff which probably gave birth to the lore tidbit from Fantasy that Slaanesh could one day grow to eclipse his brothers because they all are about excess in one form or another.

With Tzeentch there is a good chance you would end up paranoid and constantly plotting to retain control of what you've obtained from real or imagined enemies.

At his core, Slaanesh is the most flexible god (interpret that how you will). He can draw power from any of the emotions that the other gods do. The anger of Khorne's followers, the despair of Nurgle's, the pride of Tzeentch's. The victory of the other gods is always partly the victory of Slaanesh, so he can always twist them into a Pyrrhic victory.

that's implying that Khorne and Tzeentch aren't actually Gork and Mork on a 'umie outreach program.

what happens if you die in service to The (Great) Horned Rat?

>T. Slaanesh

Even in fantasy, Slaanesh was referred to as the youngest and weakest god.

Heck, the Eye of Terror appeared in the 8th ED daemon book.

>since most species in the setting don't feel bloodlust or rage that often
Khorne thrives from slaugher alone but I don't know if Blood HAS to flow. Only that he has a blood and skull fetish.
I hate how they changed his style when in the past Khorne followers could also be honourable warriors. Now it's just BLOOD DEATH BLOOD DEATH BLOOD DEATH BLOOD DEATH I could go on but I won't.
>because not even the power of Chaos can withstand the most feared of all beings; lawyers.
So Verena has the most powerfull champions?