How do you put a fresh spin on the femme fatale archetype?

How do you put a fresh spin on the femme fatale archetype?

She's like 39, she looks like she works at the post office, and she's a professional assassin who likes wearing pantsuits.

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Have her actually turn out to be a man?

She turns out to be not evil.

>Barb is secretly an assassin
I... can kind of see that

>Fresh spin
>Archetype

Don't. Just learn to execute the archetype well. Incidentally this is how you learn how to put a fresh spin on it, too.

>Elsa
>Not evil

A kraut seductress tempting a red blooded American man into leaving his family is the definition of evil, and don't you forget it.

He did it out of his own will, just like every single mistake in his life.

She's actually terrible at it.

She's cute, but in a clumsy bashful sort of way.

She get too flustered while wearing her uniform, so she wears her tracksuit over it.

She cannot seduce men because her face turns red whenever she says an innuendo or tries making bodily contact with her victim.

The secret agent/superhero that she faces most often doesn't ever fall for anything, he just relentless teases her to tears.

She always botches her torture sessions because the second her victim grunts she gets spooked and apologizes, bluffing that the worst has yet to come while escorting them back to their cell.

Her real name is Mary, but her co-workers call her Olga because she's tall, has black hair, and wears a tracksuit.

Her boss pities her too much to fire her, but instead teases her to tears.

user stop, i can only get so hard!

thats just bullying user, and not in the fun way

also, what your describing is 90% of succubi in hentai

Case in point:

Remember, laces out

>what your describing is 90% of succubi in hentai
What? Succubi are depicted as moeblobs prone to being bullied in hentai?

meant for

Ray Finkle...

>Let's find a scapegoat for being utter shit and a massive asshole

>I don't understand what femme fatale even is
>I am also a weeaboo

wait a minute.

Her persona is just part of the act she puts on in her part as a competent agent of [power, part of] whose job description is to compromise others with her charm. When she isn't busy playing seductress she's actually a pretty normal high-functioning professional.

So... play it straight but do it well.

The male ones at least.

and she's divorced

Shhhh.

It's okay, user. Everything is going to be okay.

Check out Mr. Kaplan form "the Blacklist".

Definitely divorced, twice. One of her former husbands is dead.

Hijabs?

Source on her big brown melons

Eliza from Skullgirls. Couldn't tell you the artist though.

Just go back to the roots. It's had enough twists and subversions by now that going back to the cliche is refreshing.

>a good femme fatale is literally the opposite of a femke fatale
Yeah theyre shit so i can see your point

That's your answer to everything!

>fresh spin

nobody wants a fresh spin. you know what they want? Xenia Onatopp and Catherine Tramell. at the very least they want Vivian Rutledge or Holli Would.

Oh please, that's more tired than playing it straight.

Well maybe fiction should stop being so obsessed with subverting everything and learn the goddamn fundamental origins of the twists they're trying to twist!

She has 9 inches of thick uncut dick and a smooth set of fat cum filled feminine balls that she is gonna use to turn your asshole inside out.

You do realise you can subvert, spin, flip, alter and change archetypes to your pleasure, right?
They're not immutable, no matter how much you may disagree.

How well it may function afterwards, story-wise, is something else entirely.

She genuinely desires a target of her affections, but due to her experience with having to seduce targets, she has literally no understanding of normal relationships and constantly fucks up when she's around him.

Fantasy is all about the wow factor, novelty is an essential part of that.

This. Archetypes and story types are actually helpful and probably impossible to avoid. Dramatists since the dawn have man have been observing and telling stories about humans and their strife. People are always trying to tell a story that nobody's ever heard, you need to be the teller nobody's ever heard.

Sci Fi is the only genre were stories that have never been told get told (and that's not some sort of elitist praise, it's just how I see it. Westworld wouldn't work without hosts, which are characters the ancients never considered.).

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

It's only gay if her pulsating pleasure piston causes you to hands free blow your creamy cock custard all over your own face while she frosts the inside of your ass like a cake.

All my family is dying but this made me laugh hard.
Thanks user.

This is weird, is the type of shitposting that made Veeky Forums famous?

I thought it was only gay if she cum inflates you to the size of a bungalow.

The hack known only as Veeky Forums became famous when when you became the only man in the entire United States of American not to slam jam his wham ham into your mom's fart tunnel.

However after a point of playing with an archetype it becomes a different one all together.

Except not, he really does live in Canada.

dyke on a motorrado

source?

Isn't that the game that got censored super hard?

>male/futanari succubi
Triggers me every time
>red wine
>cooler

homosexindenial . org

>dyke
You mean a boy with probably a vagina

The skeleton is Elza right?
I don't understand how it works

It's a dude.

She just aggressively sucks dicks hard enough to cave in a man's skull.

The game has a brown latino catgirl that can dismember herself and the skeleton confuses you?

She speaks with the most unsexy accent you can think of.

Whoa now.

Just make her Canadian.

That's like a Bond villain.

Ah, so a New Yorker?

I've seen that vore porn

Indian?

>headbobbing intensifies

>red wine
>cooler
At the beach in the summer, that's quite correct. Red wine is supposed to be served at about 65 degrees. If you just stick the bottle in 100 degree sand or even just leave it out in 80 degree air, it'll be warmed to an unpleasant level.

It's actually just an act to entrap people like .

It's a symbiotic relationship. Her skeleton is a real horribly violent thing that's been around forever bonded to her. It's the whole Venom thing, but being formerly treated like a god because of her power. She can just use her flesh and blood like the symbiote used its mass.

seconding desire for source

That's probably blood not wine

"Ahha, ya see misterr herow, if ya don'd hand'd me ove dad documend reaaally soon, I'll have to yuseexcessiveforce, eh?"

She's aware of femme fatale tropes and plays them to her advantage. Like pretending to be .

Shes very not-classy. Her seduction and manipulation is used almost entirely just to couchsurf and get free food because she is lazy and unmotivated, but naturally beautiful and charismatic. She doesnt play hard to get, she puts out, but she never really feels under control either. No one really "gets" her and she will probably be gone before you wake (after stealing breakfast from your fridge), but youll still be excited to see her again.

Shes significant because she has a ridiculous amount of sway and contacts, plus knows an absurd amount of personal information about litterally everyone. She can leverage either if she ever wanted to, most likely because someone realizes what she really has to offer and throws money at her.

>You can change the archetype to no longer be the archetype to put a fresh spin into it
And also for it to stop being the archetype. But that's something TV Tropes didn't explain to you, did it?

>Saying something bad about TV Tropes

She used to be the hottest, deadliest woman on the block... 30 years ago.

Now she's old, bitter, single, still tries to put on the femme fatale act but her trargets are now disgusted by hers crowsfeet, cellulite and flabby gut and arms. She can still talk the talk like nobody's business, she just can't walk the walk anymore.

Sauce

Be honest, you just want to read about the daily sufferings of a miserable office lady

Office ladies are for marriage and househusbands.

>clumsy, incompetent moeblob that's constantly getting bullied
You pretty much described about 80% of all succubi based porn, yeah.

Being an acolyte of Kek gives her bonus points.

...is she praying to Lord Kek for a good husband?

This is unironically the modern Hollywood femme fatal, though. Maybe a few years too old, but harmless-looking in a pantsuit is definitely in.

I see no issues.

>Standing up for TV Tropes
Son, are you at least aware that site is mocked by pretty much everyone who is not their user AND half of their user?
And for good fucking reasons

Like this

Make them a dude. Not even a trap, just a man attractive, charismatic, and sexually talented enough he can make even the most heterosexual of men question their sexuality and make them putty in his hands.

I can picture it.

Neferu and Sekhmet are separate beings or rather were, like she said before her last battle on her story mode.
Its safe to assume she and Sekhmet were once like Filia and Samson or Sienna and Leviathan. After their "schemes", Neferu and her "parasite" kept living on, but in the shadows (Samson thought she was dead).
They coexisted for a veeeeeeery long time and their personalities "fused", making them closer to one being.
tl;dr they were two but lived together long enough to be considered one entity.

she's a piercer who doesn't drop for just anyone

Probably the best idea in the thread.

Make her extremely fucking fat and/or floaty.

The fuck is this?
My Homeboy.

IT'S A BROWN AMAZONIAN CATGIRL

Consider investing in the self-termination of your life.

Zannen Jokanbu Black General-san.

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