>War has engulfed Cadia following the largest Chaos invasion in Imperial history. Against a tide of heretics, traitors and Daemons, the mightiest fortress world of the Cadian Gate has… (spoilers removed) …which was totally awesome.
>Now, the storm rages on, and even the ancient races of the galaxy will not escape the rising power of Chaos.
You're not helping with those whole Age of the Emperor shit, geedubs.
Isaac Williams
>whfb: elves >end times: united elves >AoS: aelfs
>40k: eldar >time of ending: united eldar >41k: aeldari
the pottery is inevitably going to hurt
Samuel Bailey
Aeldari? Fuck that shit, man! Call them Eldar!
Evan Ward
I bet it was written ADB or some other BL writer, John French maybe, or Gav Thorpe....
Julian Long
I could see some factions to be rolled into bigger ones. From what we've heard it won't be as simplified as AoS with Order, Chaos, Death and Destruction, more like: >Imperium >Chaos >Aeldari >Orks >Necrons >Tyranids
Tau would probably join Eldar or some other bullshit.
On the other hand I could see a revelation like "The Hive Mind is C'tan! Necrons and 'Nids are together now." or "The Hive Mind got looted by Orks. They are one faction now."
Imperium will be this big faction like Order in AoS, with all different subfactions. Basically everything will have tons of subfactions, kinda like they are getting lately with Chaos and Imperium.
Gabriel Wright
As an Ahriman fan I hope that quote means War in the Webway 2.0 is a go.
After the ass fucking GW just gave the TSons by way of their rule-set I hope he gets something nice.
Aiden Butler
I mean, this is just an out of context quote talking about ancient history
Could just be the name of their original civilisation
Christian Price
Why would They need a copyright shoehorn Name for Eldar, im pretty sure eldar already is that from back in ye olde days when they Werke literally called space elves
David Morris
Eldar is from Tolkien, meaning 'People of the Stars' - GW don't own that name.
Cameron Bailey
Like they don't own Space Marine, right?
Jacob Parker
>the infinity circuit symbol atop an Autarch rune the bottom of which is slightly elongated Spooky Autarchs incoming, probably with more Wraith units.
Matthew Sanchez
No only Adeptus Astartes but they have way of making other companies not use that term.
Someone's going to pay for this. The Dark Eldar codex already told us what the Eldar word for their own language is, and it's "Eladrith".
Oh well. Another book I'll pirate for the rule and ignore everything else.
Ian Rodriguez
I fail to see your point?
Yes, it's not actually possible - or at least the issue is vexed - to own the copyright on a word; but GW is determined to use differentiated titles for products where they can; hence why so much more marines stuff highlights the name 'Adeptus Astartes' and the Guard are now 'Astra Militarum.'
GW *do* want to try and use the most unique names possible to stake a claim on their IP via unique names; which they can't do with things like Eldar or Imperial Guard.
Connor Carter
You know the eldar language is reportedly more complex than any human tongue, right?
Christian Wood
Is that the name of their language, or their language's name for their people? The two are different things.
Henry Brown
Their language's name for their people. More specifically the Dark Eldar call themselves Eladrith Ynneas, a term Vect invented.
Jackson Rodriguez
It might be High Gothic name or something.
Joseph Bailey
Then what the flying FUCK, GW. Unless it's just Ahriman making shit up as usual, but I doubt the company would endorse that meme directly.
Luis Davis
Surely, it can only mean a war in the webway resulting in a surprise comeback of Ynnead!
Adrian Hill
I can't wait for this setting to get rebooted.
Nathan Bell
Pretty sure they can copyright "craftworld eldar" and "dark eldar" though. And it's highly unlikely they would decide to go full copy right protection now, instead of pulling that back when all the imperial armies got their official high gothic names like "Adeptus Astartes" or "astra militarum.
Tyler Rodriguez
Trademark. Different from copywrite. Learn.
Carter Cox
What is the purpose / meaning of this?
>Imperium
can we please make all 500 faggoty space marine chapters just be one army now please?
Blake Cox
This. I hope GW fucks thing up and million assblast will follow.
Bentley Brown
Checked praise Slaanesh
Same
Easton Perez
>I hope GW fuck up a thing everyone loves >I love being an edgy world hating teen K, friendo
Carter Hernandez
Storm.. of Chaos?
Connor Rivera
The game is such an unbalanced mess that the only way to fix it is to start anew.
Jaxon Bailey
>Now, at last, the tome has fallen open. Within its pages the Shadowseers have found a script, a secret final act that changes utterly the tale of the Fall. Penned in inks of light and shadow, these words present a slender hope, detailing an intricate, galaxy-spanning performance with the potential to change the fate of the Eldar race. Always, the strands of fate have pointed toward the victory of Chaos during the last, mythic battle known to the Eldar as the Rhana Dandra. Yet within the pages of the crystal tome is recorded Cegorach’s ultimate jest, a way to trick Slaanesh into expending all her power not to destroy the Eldar, but to save them. How such an impossibility could come to pass is unclear, for on this matter the final act is infuriatingly vague. Yet the Harlequins take their god’s words on faith alone, for their devotion to Cegorach is total and his methods beyond question or reproach. Thus they have begun the steps of this final dance, and will see it completed, or else face absolute destruction in the attempt.
The final dance is starting. Chaos is destined to win it but Cegorach words revealed another possibility. Interesting.
Anyways, who are the three foes that Eldar will face in the Rhana Dandra according to Cegorach's bible? Well, we know all of them now except one.
1-"Within madness’ eye, the champion of the Ruinous Powers prepares to seize a realm long denied". (Abaddon the villain of FoC) 2-"A fallen sorcerer seeks the lore of the library" (Ahriman the villain of the next book) 3-" A king stirs in his court of death and silence, preparing to rise once more"
So who or what is this king?
Elijah Myers
That is not what I was quoted.
Isaac Bell
The king is Curze, Demon Primarch, Prophet of the 8th, He Who Punishes, The Taker of Skin
Henry Clark
The Silent King.
Hunter Evans
The Silent King comes to mind
Aiden Jackson
A Necron, presumably.
Mason Morris
>So who or what is this king? Silent king certainly fits the description of a king whose court is filled with "silence" and "death"
Jaxon Johnson
Creeeeeeed, come back :(
Christian Rogers
what if trazyn and creed became best buddies?
Ayden Bailey
Will he finally get a model and rules?
Grayson Ross
probably, nagash did
Aiden Peterson
>Creed's ability to TACTICAL GENIUS Baneblades has been because Trazyn just keeps popping stuff out of his tessaract labarynth
Joseph Evans
The game is a huge fucking mess and the lore gets worse by the year because GW only hires hack writers.
Oliver Lopez
>lore gets worse by the year oh please, no matter what they wrote you would hate it anyway
Michael Howard
Nope. GW lore used to be good because the old writers had great inspiration from outside sources. The new writers that grew up with 40k takes their inspiration from 40k. The company also takes copyright more serious now. As a result the lore is now entering a stagnation that gets more dull as time goes on.
People keeps a company interesting, not just their assets and now they employ uninteresting people.
Luis Foster
>GW lore used to be good because the old writers had great inspiration from outside sources there was some interesting concepts like the Sensei and we had stuff like fucking Inquisitor Obi-wan, taking inspiration from other sources is not bad by any means, but sometimes it gets just wayyyy to silly
Bentley Sullivan
>Matt Ward >Phil Kelly >hacks
These are the same writers who have been writing the fluff for years.
Owen Morales
Neither of them has been very good at it.
Chase Price
Kelly is decent when he wants to be, and Ward may have a boner for ultramarines, but his eldar stuff is okay at times
Ayden Diaz
Almost all of 40k is derivative of other fictional sources to such a degree that it's almost plagiarism. Few basic elements of 40k is original creations of GW.
Liam Jenkins
who is a good lore writer for you then ?
Jason Clark
Where are the tau going to fit in all of this? my prediction is that they'll get BTFO by tyranids and the eldar are going to show up and lead them through the webway to where ever it is the final battle is happening.
Also, orks will join the "good" guys, theres a reason eldrad has been influencing ghazzys rise to power.
Adrian Thompson
yes, but then 40k took those elements and did its own spin on then, it may be not original sure but at least its not a carbon copy
Elijah Watson
>Mat Ward and Phil Kelly are good writers
Nathan Bell
>I don't like it so everyone else should be unhappy >I love being the centre of the universe because I am Gen Y K, friendo.
Christopher Johnson
Chances are that you came into the setting in 5th ED. So basically nearly all the fluff you were exposed to was from them.
Matthew White
Matt Ward has cool ideas, but he is a terrible narrator. Phil Kelly is just mediocre.
Mason Hill
>this projection
Leo Carter
Spotted the kraut phoneposter
Chase Morris
is it too much to hope that this thread have the epub of Fall of Cadia?!
Austin Williams
check /40kg/ they have one
Jonathan Wilson
...
Gavin Morales
>3-" A king stirs in his court of death and silence, preparing to rise once more"
Gaycrons.
Brayden Cooper
They do like their storms.
Ayden Brooks
Cegorach confirmed for Lileath.
Michael Clark
Them bundling Tau and Necrons together wouldn't be so bad if Kroot and Vespids got some love too, but the idea of Tau and the three Eldar factions jumping into the same army list is horrible in terms of theme, fluff and rules.
Nids teaming up with chaos due to the Hive Minds ascending into gods would be fun to look at on the tabletop, but I'm sure the bugs are going to get shafted again and left on their own.
Andrew Lee
No, 40k mashed them into Warhammer Fantasy.
Nathaniel Reed
>Nids teaming up with chaos due to the Hive Minds ascending into gods this is what I've been betting on for a while the hive mind becomes the chaos god of hunger or something; its a way to get rid of slaanesh (for the soccer moms) and to remove the nids as a (theoretical) rival to chaos.
Easton Barnes
So Tyranids are Skaven.
Does that mean Eldrad and robot dragon Vect are going to be waterboarding Slaanesh in a cave as he pukes Eldar?
Anthony Reyes
Can someone explain how Cain's Last Stand falls into anything?
Wyatt Hernandez
>tfw no space Gotrek fighting an infinite army of Daemons >tfw we won't be able to call him the Doom Slayer
William Jackson
They're going to ruin 40k next? I can't wait.
Nathan Parker
pretty much, it'd be a bit of a shame to remove the nids as a unique faction but the same could've been said for the skaven. though the possibility of a unified setting for warhammer could be funny
Hunter Smith
The emperor is dead, and therefore silent, and he is in a way king of the imperium. If this is the end times it'd make sense for big e to come back in the final book.
Isaiah Jenkins
Naw, Age ruined Gotrek by having him blow up and making Roman Slayers physically lust for fragments of his body.
Cooper Lopez
>implying that's Gotrek
Henry Richardson
>End Times ends with Gotrek becoming the new Grimnir and holding his fortress within the Warp >Grimnir appears after the dust settles and Chaos is finished killing
Its Gotrek. It can't be anyone else, Grimnir gave him his own divinity and stood as a mortal.
Nathan Ortiz
>when Veeky Forums gives you even worse fluff than GW
Blake Sanders
What if the tau unfuck their own shit, throw away the ethereals, finally grow full heads of hair and make all their battlesuits thicc and sexy?
would that excuse all the massive plot fuckups that are coming?
Charles Fisher
>implying that's not original Grimnir >implying the real Gotrek isn't currently still killing Daemons >implying God Gotrek wouldn't have resurrected Felix at least
Caleb Reyes
Naw.
Tau are Tomb Kings and despite getting new models and having an expansive model line are tied to a log heading towards the saw as a faction.
Leo Rogers
>What if the tau unfuck their own shit, throw away the ethereals
The Ethereals are pretty much the main reason why the Tau are so unfucked in general, they're not exactly moustache-twirling villains, they're just really, really competent sociopathic leaders with a 'no matter the cost' philosophy behind their rhetoric. I strongly doubt the entire Tau Empire's capability to remain as cohesive and advanced as it is without them, as they've effectively been genetically and psychologically bent towards functioning at maximum efficiency under Ethereal leadership.
Farsight Enclaves are an interesting anomaly, but one that hasn't been entirely proven as stable yet.
Zachary Edwards
CALLING IT NOW
>exodites, dark eldars, and most craftworlders unite under the leadership of Eldanesh reborn, figure out a way of reincarnating properly and rebuild the Aeldari empire
>Eldrad and a bunch of harlequins and Iyanden assholes from the house of Ulthanash become full-blown death-worshipping necromancers, raise an army of wraith constructs with the help of Ynnead and become the DEATH ELDARS
Hudson Harris
So if this happens GW will never touch the good 40k again right?
No more Grey knights killing sisters of battle?
No more retarded battles?
Hell fucking yes
Joshua Howard
Some of us started with Haines and Chambers. Trust us, Kelly and Ward are rubbish.
Logan Miller
Those were the days.
Easton Sanders
Hey I have a 4th edition codex! I'm not that young.
Gavin Butler
5e a best
The only 40k lore we need
Nolan Taylor
So why exactly would any respectable person care for this?
Most people on Veeky Forums listen to 5e lore instead of nu40k lore right?
Andrew Myers
5'th edition was when the fluff started getting shitty.
Gavin Reed
Why do you fags complain like you dont have to listen to it.
I havent listened to official 40k lore in years I swear I dont know why but the 40k fanbase on Veeky Forums just has taken a dive.
I hate how the site that made me love 40k is currently making me hate it and all the people in these retarded threads.
Caleb Robinson
>Daeth Aelderi FTFY
Jackson Thomas
Veeky Forums it self is just an over glorified shadow of its former self
Matthew Fisher
you're acting as if this is a wishlist. this is us guessing as to what horrors they'll unleash next
Aaron Ross
Veeky Forums became shit at talking 40k after /v/ migrated here to get away from political shitposting.
Brayden Morgan
>tyranids becoming chaos >tyranids just being skaven thank fuck you don't write for GW, thats the most retarded shit i've heard in a while.
I do think the tyranids will fill a very similar role as the skaven did in the begining of the end times, and wipe out a few important places and a bunch of factions they couldn't be assed to expand on. My guess is that Ultramar and the tau empire will get overrun at the very least. I also think Calgar is getting killed or at least dreadnoughted by the swarmlord, leaving an opening for Guilliman to come back and lead the chapter.
Mason Gray
I seriously dont get how talking anything 40k here got so bad.
Your lucky if some 2 assholes dont start shit in lore threads anymore
Thread on assassins? Some assholes will say LOL IMPERIALFAGS NEED THIS OP SHIT LOL DAMAOCLOS BTFO BTFO BTFO YOUR FACTION SUCKS
I really fucking despise this attitude on Veeky Forums