"Last thread we focused a lot on actual minis, games and lists. An user had an interesting narrative battle report and the discord made a reappearance. It was rather nice, as can be seen here "
Does anyone have the materials on hand for making the General title images, or a link where I can find them? If I'm going to be making these new threads, I might as well make a few new pictures as well to keep things fresh.[/spoilers]
Did you just recopy the old description of the old old thread
Jordan Flores
he did
Jacob Peterson
>tfw two good, productive threads in a row There's a specific guy who makes delicious bread flavours and spices.
Cooper Murphy
>no mention of the dreadwing
Julian Harris
If it ain't broke
Kayden Moore
What kits are good for getting mass number of power axes for normal marines? If not power axes, epsilon axes?
Kinda don't want to order online because my post office is fucking disastrous with packages.
Leo Walker
Reposting what I think was the final version.
>Effects Scour and Cleanse: A detachment using this Rite of War must take Legion Destroyer Squads as their compulsory Troops choices, and may take Legion Destroyer Squads as additional Troops choices. Armoured Death: Any model that can take a Rhino may take a Land Raider Proteus as a dedicated transport, any that exceeds the transport capacity to do so may take a Spartan Assault Tank. We have come, we are Death: When two or more units from this detachment assault the same unit in the assault phase, they get +1 attack. The Green Fire: Any character with the Legiones Astartes (Dark Angels) special rule can take a Phosphex Bomb for 10pts >Restrictions With the exception of the Moritat and Siege Breaker types, only a single Consul may be taken as an HQ One Heavy Support slot is compulsory, and must be filled by a unit with the Tank type Only one fast attack slot allowed No unit in the Dreadwing is Scoring No Allies or Fortifications
Matthew Cox
There's another baker, who is much more detail oriented and bakes all of his threads fresh. I'm the EC Goose, and I'm basically on hand to keep the peace and make sure new threads are at least made (if not kept at 100%).
Robert Harris
Bloodclaws are WS3/BS3 and wolf scouts got more options and rules than regular Scouts.
Joseph Roberts
>Armoured Death >We have come, we are Death Well, one of those needs changing, Maybe Mechanised Assault?
Leo Campbell
This is V0.1b
Effects: - We have come, we are death: A detachment using this Rite of War must take Legion Destroyer Squads as their compulsory Troops choices, and may take Legion Destroyer Squads as additional Troops choices. In addition, Phosphex Shells* may be taken on models equipped with a grenade launcher, twin-linked grenade launchers or missile launchers as an additional ammunition type for +10 points per model. - World kill: Any unit taken as part of this detachment, unless a Legion Destroyer Squad or equipped with Artificer, Hardened, or Terminator (any kind) Armour must take a Land Raider Phobos or Proteus dedicated transport if it numbers 10 models or less, or a Spartan Assault Tank if it numbers 20 models or less. Any Legion Vindicator equipped with Demolisher Cannon may upgrade to use exclusively Vortex Shells** for +X points. Restrictions: - The glass turns, the grains fall: No unit in this detachment may score mission objectives other than First Blood, Slay the Warlord, Attrition and Linebreaker objective(1). Legion Moritat Consuls taken as part of this detachment have the Lone Killer special rule removed. - Detachments using this Rite of War must take an additional compulsory HQ choice in addition to that usually required by their Force Organisation chart, and this second compulsory choice must be either a Legion Siege Breaker Consul or a Legion Moritat Consul. - Detachments using this Rite of War must take an additional compulsory Troops choice in addition to that usually required by their Force Organisation chart.
Wargear: Range Str AP Special Phosphex Shells (grenade) 18" 5 2 Assault 1, Blast (3"), Poisoned (3+), Crawling Fire, Lingering Death Phosphex Shells (missile) 36" 5 2 Assault 1, Blast (3"), Poisoned (3+), Crawling Fire, Lingering Death Vortex Shells somebody fill this up along with the points cost
Notes: (1) I'm not sure if Victory Points are awarded for units killed by default.
Joshua Jenkins
IF THOUSAND SONS AREN'T OP AS FUCK WE RIOT.
Evan Anderson
Yeah I just woke up. Thank you.
Joseph Morgan
Does the Emperor have a full cost of arms? Here's the Russian Empire's "Lesser" Coat of Arms.
Noah Hall
>I don't want a balanced game.
Sebastian Edwards
Both of you are doing great since I'm busy dealing with college.
Bentley Kelly
Post the HH images plz
Sebastian Hall
I baked some bread recently, and it went incredibly well.
I was so proud.
Benjamin Peterson
Yes its a BIG OL E
Benjamin Nguyen
Fascinating.
Tyler Reed
First, I don't remember any discussion about any of this, so I'm not sure where your getting the "This is the newest version" from >>Effects: >In addition, Phosphex Shells* may be taken on models equipped with a grenade launcher, twin-linked grenade launchers >Any Legion Vindicator equipped with Demolisher Cannon may upgrade to use exclusively Vortex Shells** for +X points. I'm not sure about inventing entirely new wargear for one RoW, especially with how much DA have already >>Restrictions: >The glass turns, the grains fall: No unit in this detachment may score mission objectives other than First Blood, Slay the Warlord, Attrition and Linebreaker objective(1). Legion Moritat Consuls taken as part of this detachment have the Lone Killer special rule removed. Alright, fine, Moritats can loose Lone Killer, but isn't that just a wordy way of saying that they aren't scoring? >Detachments using this Rite of War must take an additional compulsory HQ choice in addition to that usually required by their Force Organisation chart, and this second compulsory choice must be either a Legion Siege Breaker Consul or a Legion Moritat Consul. Dreadwing is mentioned as using high tech tonks so the compulsory heavy support fits them better IMO >Detachments using this Rite of War must take an additional compulsory Troops choice in addition to that usually required by their Force Organisation chart. Why? They're aren't an elite force, no reason to force them to take more Destroyers over, say, Assaults
Aaron Rivera
Damn, the ruskies know how to pimp out their heraldry. I feel like the big E would have pic related surrounded with Eagles
Ryder Reed
>I'm not sure about inventing entirely new wargear for one RoW, especially with how much DA have already This >Lone killer It prevented Moritats from joining most squads and benefiting from stuff
Joshua Taylor
It doesn't matter whether the RoW states that Moritats loose Lone Killer, since Lone Killer states that they don't benefit from RoWs.
Dominic Hall
This would override it, if you state it so.
Kayden Rodriguez
Here's their "Greater" coat. >I feel like the big E would have pic related surrounded with Eagles I figured there would be Eagles but how auric are they?
Bentley Sullivan
Well, I decided to make a Mechanicum Genetor army, probably using Reductor rules and mixing in some Militia levy swarms and maybe Cybernetica. Modelled as genetic and/or frankenstinian cyborg monstrosities, of course. Virus shells, biological cyber-occularis squid things, Crypt Ghoul levy swarms. Going to be cool, once I come up with a paint scheme.
Any good fluff about the mad scientists? Or the Reductor, neither seem to have much screentime. Read the stuff about Decima, that's about it.
Christian Young
>I figured there would be Eagles but how auric are they? The Eagles can't be wounded on anything better than 3+, regardless of any special rules it has (TOTALLY applies to Destroyer Weapons).
Blake Harris
It's not an improved version, just different, hence "b". The main idea of it is "stirring up a hornet's nest".
Phosphex shells are simply bombs shot from launchers, and we will get the D-cannon Vindicators eventually.
Going away with the Lone Killer means they can join other types of squads so as to saturate more units with rad/counter-attack. A side effect is they may benefit from blessings etc., but you'll never get to field more than one Moritat and Librarian.
>high tech tonks There are those Vindicators with Vortex shells, but yeah, maybe a mandatory HS tank should be put in there.
>aren't elite force Nor are Destroyers, another compulsory slot is there to offset the benefit of the list.
I hit the character limit, in the following post I considered reducing grenades/missiles to 12/24" range, and the no Allies and no Fortifications should go without saying. (TL) Grenade Launchers are mentioned in the Stasis Shells entry, so it's a good indicator of another piece of wargear either a unit or a rite will get.
Jaxson Cruz
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Owen Thompson
I can’t see Predators getting transport capacity (did they ever have any). There’s a popular rite of war that makes them troops, for one thing. And a turret takes a lot of room in a tank; the fluff explanation would defy physics. Also, getting rid of the side sponsons would give you a Razorback (but with a bigger, more space-hogging turret) and those deliberately don’t exist yet. It’s bad enough that Rhinos can take a pintle-mounted heavy weapon without penalty.
At the moment the army list only includes a Contemptor-Cortus. But, in the same way that there’s a Contemptor-Mortis and a normal (boxnought) Mortis, FW could add other-shaped Cortus dreads in the future. “Cortus” just means that someone fixed up a damaged dreadnought to a lower standard than original, and somehow it’s ended up more aggressive.
Leo Kelly
The Donghunter series, I guess.
Carter Sullivan
Those eagle make me happy. Have an old alternative OP pic.
Kevin Bailey
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Brody Martinez
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Kayden Ward
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Jeremiah Torres
Back when we were running out of ideas.
Austin Price
So Inferno is out in February, right?
Charles Phillips
What will you do with a fuckton of power axes user?
Caleb Anderson
It's been pushed back to March. Source: My Uncle works at FW and Nintendo.
Angel Gray
Threads ago the 8 ball and trips said it wouldn't be delayed so yes.
Cameron Rogers
I need to equip my veterans. I'm thinking making a power axes + 2 heavy bolter/melta squad
Jackson Watson
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Andrew Lopez
Unwieldy weapons on a 3+/NA infantry unit with a Rhino as a DT? Good for you that don't care about what the WAACfags say! Well done. I'm saving the gif
No one equips swords or mauls from the look of things
Blake Morgan
This could be used as one in a pinch.
Gavin Hall
Well if you send them against regular marines then swords will do alright. But I liked Furious Charge more than Weaponmasters, even if the later does make a bit more sense. No more DG rad power axes of Instant death
Christopher Barnes
I guess...
Adam Martinez
Just about any /hhg/ created meme could be used, really.
Angel Price
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Cooper Reed
And man do we have a lot of them. Someone post the Sister of Battle header pls
Ian Martin
Generally you don't want to charge your veterans into things against which the power axes would be needed. Swords are ok however to brutalize power armoured blobs even after taking some casualties.
Logan Cruz
This one?
Robert Rodriguez
Noooo the one HHG with the SoS, and Custodes and shiny eyed ADB
Austin Morgan
SoS.
Cameron Kelly
>did they ever have any
They did and IA books even acknowledge this, though explain it that the transport space was often used to store extra ammo, ergo no transport capacity today. But that would mean you could have troop transport capacity with the regular dakkapred, just don't bring so much ammo along for the ride. The other variants, I suppose, would have that space taken up by plasma reactors, melta tanks, etc.
Christian Sullivan
>Custards: Guarding humanities waifus since M25
Wyatt Ortiz
I used Vanguard Veteran thunder hammers and Orc/k choppa blades.
Juan Adams
I'm confused about the Tactics page on 1d4chan. It seems to list a bunch of Legionaires Astartes tactics that aren't present in the book like Sons of Horus having a rule called Death Dealers. Am I missing something or is the page inaccurate?
Evan Lee
Someone's got to do it.
Ayden Hughes
Guess who lives.
Leo Sanders
Nooooooo Goddammit stop milking the cow like that
Noah Gray
Well how else was the Emperor going to breed humanity into a non-psychic race after finishing the webway project :^)
Jose Cook
You need the red book as well, it's got all the legion-specific stuff in it. I would advise you to download the correct version of the red book, but I can't remember which link that is.
>Vulkan He really does live. >Matthias Ward >Phil Kellus The memes have bleed into harshly. They can't keep getting away with this.
Eli Perez
>MATTHAIS WARD
Landon Reyes
I have a four person team game coming up that's set at 4k points, personally I've never gone over 2k but I have enough minis to make up the difference minus a couple of heavy support options. How does this list look? hqs alexis pollux
Running with IF hence all the bolters. Nuncios are spread to every squad that can take one ad every sergeant has artificer + power fist. I plan to deep strike termies or seekers when needed. I'm playing with a WS player and we're up against SoH and DG
Jace Morgan
Damn it I really liked Bulkan. He was a /good/ guy and the Salamanders were nice in an era of Grim Dark. But they still got shit done like burning jeanstealers.
make 1 10 man terminator squad if you can and put them with Alexis and the Centurion in that Spartan, Deep Strike the Smaller squad, less chance of a scatter leading to a mishap.
RoW? Is this Double FoC you have to many heavy support otherwise. You might be lacking in the numbers department for 8,000 points a side.
Jaxon Green
user, please. Fix your list format and then re submit it. Every once and a while there is someone like you that has not even tried to see how other people enter their lists and just posts a fucking block of text that is hard to read.
Put in the effort to structure your list in a readable format for us and then we (may) put in the effort to look at your list.
Daniel Clark
inb4 it appears on natfka
Isaiah Martinez
Anyone ever get the feeling Russia is compensating for something?
Jack Carter
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Ayden Torres
Things were different back then. Ivan was happier and drunk back then. Nowadays Russia has a HIV epidemic and Ivan can't drink himself to death because he uses 10 bottles of vodka for his cereal. He's still drunk of course.
Adrian Fisher
All great empires had such busy coats of arms.
Levi Gomez
Kek
Chase Bennett
Sorry I'm on my phone, didn't look so disorganized on a small screen.
pride of the legion HQs >285 points alexis pollux centurion(primus medicae)+terminator armor
TROOPS two veteran tactical squads >700 points 9 veteran marines >nuncio vox, vexilla+2 HB with suspensors+melta bombs 1 veteran sergeant >power fist, artificer armor dedicated transport rhino >twin linked bolter
legion terminator squad >355 points 7 legion terminators >iliastus assault cannon + power fists x2 + chain fists x1 + thunder hammers x2 >sigil storm shields x2 1 legion terminator sergeant >solarite power gauntlet dedicated transport >spartan tank alexis and primus medicae attached
The 10 man termies wont fit with alex and the apothecary so I cut it down enough for them and stuck them in the transport.
Wyatt Perry
Russia has this weird trait of either not caring about something whatsoever (human rights, driving standards, their own lives when doing something entertaining), or caring about it 150% (alcoholism, 3rd world countries, doing something entertaining). There is no inbetween. Sometimes this fact presents itself in a contradictory manner, such as when other countries say what they think about Russia. Sometimes they couldn't give a rats ass, sometimes they'll go above and beyond to prove that Russia STRONK.
Justin Gray
Can I use my fire warriors in my friends betrayal at calth game without breaking any sort of rules? My roommate took most of his minis with him on a vacation that he is taking and I usually play games with people at the local shop.
Tldr; using tau in 30k is cool... right?
Anthony Jenkins
>Tau Oh friend you better not be a faggot. >only using fire warriors That's not too bad I guess.
Cooper Morales
>The 10 man termies wont fit with alex and the apothecary Spartans have a transport capacity of 25, not just 20. Just saying, you seem to be using up all your points.
Elijah Rogers
Planning out a Mechanicum army to start when my workload drops off in a few weeks. Thing is, the armies at my local store (The ones I actually want to play against, anyway) are NL, EC and DG. Seems the first two would be screwed, since they can't scare me out of combat and sweep me, and I was slow and tough anyway, so their fancy fast swordplay won't really change much. The last might screw me with lots of poison and heavy weapons, and a teleporting ID invincible ninja.
How balanced is 30k? Will it be a fair fight regardless, or is it kind of a rock-paper-scissors thing?
Henry Green
>His country has a coat of arms that didn't take the enslavement of another, weaker country to design Newfag countries get out.
Christian Rivera
I use mostly sword because I like the look of swords, but I have 2 axes and a maul per vet squad since I had the bits and they also look cool
Gabriel Roberts
In the actual Betrayal at Calth game? No. Against 30k Marines in a regular fight? Technically yes. Trying to have a fight that is even remotely setting-appropriate? Not even close.
30k can 'technically' be played against 40k, but there are often disparities in power levels at low points (30k tends to get screwed) and at higher points (30k tends to screw others). If you're just playing a casual match against a friend with no interest in keeping it fluffy or anything, you're fine. But from a setting standpoint, it's far from 'cool' (Eldar and Orks are appropriate, while Necrons are a technicality)
Matthew Diaz
There are two red books for Astartes: Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List (the generic list), and Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Legions (special rules/units for each legion)
"Age of Darkness" means it's the most current. The previous version said "Crusade", I think. (The Crusade Imperialis Army List book covering Solar Auxilia, Cults & Militia, and Knights hasn't been updated so it still has "Crusade" in the title)
The generic Astartes book is actually a little newer than the Legions book and contains some extra legion-specific Rites of War from HH Book 6 in a section near the end.
Damn that's surprisingly hard to read. Does Pollux have Master of the Legion?
I'm not sure it's a legal list - Pride of the Legion requires that a majority of units have the Legiones Astartes special rule, which basically means infantry. You have too many dreadnoughts and tanks. Also not enough anti-tank for really big games.
Justin Brown
Mechanicum will usually rape infantry heavy marines. So your average BaC kiddy will get annoyed by mechanicum. If they have a more mechanized approach, it should be pretty even.
Just don't cheese it with Reductor. Other than that, 30k is pretty well balanced.
Nolan Edwards
Aren't they great?
Samuel Peterson
I thought he was saying to use the firewarriors as marine-count-as
Anthony Collins
>Does Pollux have Master of the Legion? Yes he does >invincible ninja. We should ask FW about this. Several questions, like a dozen minimum.
Leo Cox
>30k can 'technically' be played against 40k, but there are often disparities in power levels
Because 30k and 40k already have such great internal balance.
