hey guardfag here, in case anyone wanted this I did all the mathhammer for probabilities on all the imperial guards heavy weapons against vehicles to show what did well against what
theres a lot of fun numbers to crunch through but basically for its points Multilasers do best againt AV10, autocannons do best against everything else except for av14 since you can field 2 ACs for every LC you run
im sure other people with way better skills in formatting have done this before but i made it myself for a project im working on so i thought id share.
Its still obviously WIP but here yall go: zsyvbzc
put that in tinyurl
>but what about chances to pin? just add 1 to the AV >what about with tank hunter or re-rolling 1s fuck you my autism only goes so far in one night
Julian Roberts
God emperor fearing imperial grils > All other grills
Dylan Parker
Off to a great start today
David Lewis
>Orks >melee race >s3 i2 w1 6+sv New codex when.
Angel Mitchell
I can't unsee the round part on her hands being speakers and receivers
You literally have to "Talk to the hand" to talk to her.
Levi Thomas
8th ed
Jace Gomez
>useless fleshbags that do nothing to venerate the machine god
>showing off flesh instead of replacing it with glorious machinery
3/10 would not want to join for a sermon
Jaxson Jones
>You can now charge out of any transport, however, in order to do this, the unit must disembark before any moves taken by the transport, and the transport cannot naturally move in the movement phase after this (To represent the disembarking process.)
Any pre-existing way of charging from vehicles (assault ramp, open-topped etc.) removes this restriction.
Thoughts?
Isaac Jackson
We rhino rush now
Parker Rodriguez
You mean Age of the Emperor?
Levi Robinson
get of Veeky Forums and fuck off back to baal Dante
Brody Cruz
I can't tell if AoEfags are just salty WHFB fans or not
Cooper Turner
they'er just mad that 40k is too profitable to AoS, its natural to want people to join in on the misery
Charles Brooks
>Cadians getting squatted >Eldar being combined in to one force ITS HAPPENING
AGE OF THE EMPEROR.
Charles Powell
So, Nurgle?
Michael Torres
Deathwatch are broken now, the FAQ confirmed their shittyness.
Inferior to regular marines in every way
Brody Cooper
Yeah, Grav-cannons in free Rhinos is definitely the healthier state for the meta.
Jayden Cook
INB4 the souls of the dead Cadian 8th are resurrected into suits of armour led by super powered Creed.
We Warpstormcast Eternals now.
Brody White
They made Maulerfiends work. They didn't answer my previous question about "multiple boons from killing multiple characters at the same time" that I had though. (My Lord managed to kill 2 Arena Champs, a Solarite, and a Sybarite with a Sunburst, so had to make 8 rolls for Champion of Chaos)
Zachary Gonzalez
This twitch stream man, no one remembers half of abaddons rules because they're tied up in the marks.
Carson Collins
No shit? What happened?
Ryan Roberts
Can't take shotguns & bolters.
Jace Anderson
kill a character get a boon, kill 2 characters get 2 boons
Ian Thomas
Can't cheese out a Blackshield with a Heavy Thunderhammer
Shitties couldn't read when it said one VETERAN and were like "HE WAS A VET WHEN HE BOUGHT THE HAMMER"
>If GW wanted Blackshields / Sergeants to have taken the Heavy Hammer it would've said one MODEL
Ian Johnson
>Made maulerfiends work ?
Camden Myers
They only need to hit with one attack now to get the additional S8 Ap1 armourbane attack and get 2 if all hit.
Chase Jackson
Favored Scions lets you roll twice for Boons, and pick one or both.
Ian Foster
Where does it say that? Is this a new FAQ or is it in the final draft on their evsite? And did they keep the buff where they can hit the unit rather than a previously hit model with their magma cutters?
Cameron Phillips
Ork list isn't actually all that bad, they might actually stand a chance here.
Things that are actually changes and not actually FAQs are marked in magenta. And there are a LOT of those in Chaos.
And yeah, they hit the unit, not the model.
Grayson Phillips
ohh, that's nice! so 8 boons then if ya want and if you get d3 per boon it's even more! high chance of turning into a prince or spawn though
David Wood
are these the competitive armies?
Ryan Cruz
Dark mech girls are just dino bots user.
David Russell
if i give a pathfinder shas'ui a blacksun filter does he give ignore night fighting to his entire unit or just himself?
Eli Morales
They might as well have saved time and just written a single "NO" in the Orks.
Jason Ramirez
>Grav cannon against Orks.
I don't have a reaction image confused enough for this situation. I mean, sure, there are some units with 4+ or better, but they aren't exactly the majority.
Justin King
Might as well be a pic of a middle finger, or maybe a dick
Camden Price
No
Carter Cruz
HAH.
Trukks confirmed for best anti-knight weapon in the game:
Q: Can a grabbin’ klaw stop a Super-heavy Walker from moving and hence prevent it from charging? A: Yes.
>I don't have a reaction image confused enough for this situation. Maybe he's not a tailoring cunt?
Eli Mitchell
Haha no
The bolter nipples will still allow them to make their points back against footslogging boyz.
Ryder Evans
404 wat?
Isaac Torres
Worst army vs. Worst version of best army
Robert Williams
They still have to hit every model to get the two attacks, user.
Also, they forgot to add that bit to the Khorne Daemonkin errata, annoyingly enough.
Gabriel Martinez
There's not tailoring and then there is just bizarre picks, I mean, Centurions aren't exactly cricket when used against Orks but the grav is like a purposeful way of making them less effective.
Camden Williams
Well if he used hurricane Bolter/Heavy bolter he would be tailoring, and Lascannons are even worse than grav
Ryan Peterson
>fail mob rule with a result of 4-6, fight breaks out in mob >"shouldn't the hits be at strength 3 rather than strength 4, as that is the base strength of the boyz?" >No, they're really fired up! ;^)
When do we WAAAGH! GW's offices?
Joshua Bell
I slightly pooped the link, copy it without the comma on the end. Sorry user.
Carter Edwards
All Dedicated transport removed, you'll have to jimmy rig them by using detachements
Connor Lee
There's likely a wysiwyg rule on the streamed games and the other weapon options may as well not exist.
Caleb Watson
Jimmy rig? Is that an American thing? I've only ever use Jerry rig
Tyler Hughes
What as a space marine player do I bring against eldar? my first game against them coming up soon im thinking sternguard and librarians
Mason Scott
I find it hard to believe that Deathwatch can't take their own transport flyer or drop pods as dedicated transports, user.
William James
Looking over the Faq, it seems like Helbrutes got a 5 point pricedrop as well as the extra 2 Dreadnought attacks.
Does this make them more worthwhile?
Benjamin Hall
r8 my list.
Henry Cruz
Iron clad with double heavy flamers in drop pods. Sternguard in drop pods with combi-meltas. Dev squads with double grav-cannons in rhinos. Tacticals with plasma guns in assault cannon razorbacks. Dev centurions with grav-cannons. Anything bikes.
Carter Lewis
>32 models at 2k
even grey knights will out number you
Landon Perry
Jury-Rig is repaired with what is at hand. Like Ork vehicles Jerry-Built is made from bad materials. Like Finecast
Adam Cook
I really just don't know how to bump up that model count. Tsons are a personal favorite of mine but I'm struggling to get them to work on the tabletop.
Daniel Baker
>sternguard and librarians
This isn't 5th Edition. You're going to get raped.
Zachary Anderson
They've had that for a while now. They still aren't great, but if you take them in one of the Dataslate: Helbrutes formations they're pretty fun.
Ryder Gonzalez
It's jerry-built and jury-rigged.
Jack Wood
Librarians are really good, especially with the new powers.
Sternguard just seem like overpriced tactical squads to me, they're all about their bolters with their special ammo but you don't use bolters to really do damage when you want it.
Caleb Jackson
I don't believe it would be for D3 boons. The way it's worded, you only get the bonus roll as a result of Champion of Chaos (meaning you slay a character). The FAQ just clarified (it's in the base rules otherwise) that it doesn't matter how you kill an enemy character, as long as it's not Sweeping Advance.
The question I asked GW was: Suppose of those 8 results, one of them was Dark Apotheosis. Do I pick the results simultaneously, meaning can I theoretically get a prince who then gets 7 other boons? In-game, I chose not to use that result as it was a grey area of the rules.
The second question I have is: Suppose I use Life Leech from Biomancy (heal a wound for each unsaved wound inflicted), kill a Sergeant, then roll Bloated for my Boon (heal all wounds, or gain +1 wound max if already at full wounds). Do I choose the order in which both apply?
This one is theoretical though, as I just use Psychic Shriek as my main witchfire. There's something funny about my Sorcerer healing from hitting the enemy, necromancy and all.
Oliver Kelly
If you pay me the plane ticket to U.K. I'll help
I'm pretty much immune to tear gas at this point. Thanks third world anti riot police!
When you have to cross the street to continue working but there is a riot in the city. You just cross the damn street. Punch the cop and punch the rioters and do your damn job.
Jackson Butler
That Black Templars list is neither good nor is it fluffy.
That thing fails on pretty much all fronts.
What the fuck is that captcha?
Asher Anderson
Jesus, what kind of third world shithole do you live in? Detroit?
Jaxson Brown
not d3 boons sorry. i meant 64 - Roll another d3+1 on this table (re-rolling Spawnhood and Daemon Prince results). though that also has the same problem
you could get a prince but he wouldn't get any boons since he drops all his wargear/gifts/etc when he ascends
i believe you finish the power before the boon so you would end up with +1 wound
use less 1k sons, maybe a squad at most. if you use magnus he's gonna need a list built around him
Kevin Flores
Nah just Chile. There was a year that we had riots once every week. It was like the weather. Sunny with a chance of protest and tear gas.
Funny how water canon and tear gas went from painful to just annoying.
On all that mess not a single bullet was fired. Even when police got wounded. We where horrified when a policewoman draw her gun when she got trapped by a mob
William Murphy
I suggested it months ago when they Ghazghkull "update" did nothing.
That said, attack storefronts instead, they are all over and visible to customers.
Blake Morgan
I JUST GOT HERE, what did I miss? Are da boyz winnin' it?! >that list Where da transports at?
Thomas Anderson
Missed fuck all really, orks got first blood blowing up a rhino with lootaz and got themselves stuck in a never ending combat with a dreadnought that deepstruck. You got in just in time to get into the assaults.
Camden Wood
Is there a tl;dr on fall of Cadia
Ian Peterson
I have a question about heavy weapons teams for the Guard. So the 2 models become 1, 2 wound model. I have some heavy weapons teams and they are on one of those bigger bases. I've noticed for older models, like the Steel Legion dudes, they have a single guy carrying the missile launcher. Is that legal since he's not on the bigger base?
If it is legal, would I be able to use one of the missile launcher Cadians on a normal base?
Evan Peterson
>tl;dr on fall of Cadia Cadia fell.
Ethan Phillips
...
Jordan Johnson
GW say that you CAN put models on the bases they came with, but it's common decency to update the Heavy weapon teams to the new bases.
Jeremiah Rivera
See how he's got a buddy over to the left holding a rocket? Just mount both of them on one big base.
Jaxon Hughes
They... appear to be winning? Lots of shots failing to get past the bikers cover saves but I don't see any squiggoth?
Where are the flashgits?
Angel Myers
The way it used to work is that the loader needed to be in base contact with the gunner, if you play it like that it shouldn't be an issue.
Joseph Lewis
But user how are you gonna forge the narrative with one big base?
Brayden Scott
well for one It IS two models still but on two bases.
The rules just say talk to your opponent if not using standard bases.
Brayden Harris
They're doing not bad right now, depends on his this grimaldus assault works out. Squiggoth is in the top middle of the board and the flash gitz are inside it.
Jacob Perry
What is that base size? I can order some, but I don't know the size.
The IG broke many times before, during, and after the planet broke. Remember that Celestine was the only thing that kept the IG morale and spirit for utterly breaking before the might of Chaos. When she lost her light, all despaired.
Dylan Lewis
twitch tv/warhammer
Joshua Powell
Nurgle loves everyone, you unfaithful cunt
Owen Reyes
That was the stupidest shit I ever saw.
Cadia is used to face Chaos. Maybe if they mentioned there non Cadian regiments that would be true. But Cadians in Cadia. Facing Chaos? Not a chance.
Jordan Hughes
twitch tv /warhammer
Should be 40mm
He's talking shite anyway, not missing anything. Also just realised who that Liam is, I've actually played him a few times haha
Nicholas Russell
Hey guys, what's the best R&H killteam? Or guardsmen, if the guardsmen one is far superior?
Colton Campbell
How do bases work with LoS?
Could I put a sniping mini on a 10cm tall base and say "That's his LoS point :^)"?
Andrew Gutierrez
...
Levi Nguyen
weapon teams are on 60mm
Xavier Walker
It's much bigger than 40mm, that's terminator sized. Probably 60mm.
Dylan Perry
The Cadians never faced the full might of Chaos Undivided before. This is practically the first time Abaddon himself landed on the planet.