/srg/ Shadowrun General

I dunno, it's almost a century old. Maybe it slipped into the hands of some paranoid drug lord somehow.

My Decker's apartment is in a spot where buildings are terrifyingly tall but horizontal space is at a painful premium (Montpellier homebrew setting), meaning most cheaper residences are a bit like upscaled coffin-hotels turned on their end: Two floors connected with a metal ladder inlaid into the wall, with just enough room for an average human to lie down (trolls might get away with it if they lay down corner-to-corner). Pretty much every square inch of floor has something on it, and cleaning is a matter of being very careful with a hand-vacuum and duster.

The real nice part is that parking-spaces also have the same design-principals: Cars are held in place with mechanical clamps and tilted until they're vertical, so as to squeeze every bit of space possible out of parking-lots (if a car isn't able to be tilted or if the owner wants his ride to always be ready, residents can pay extra for a more conventional parking-space).

Who you gonna call?

But what have they done to provoke something so extreme? Why is he using it on them instead of his rivals in business? More and more questions keep getting raised here!

Because they are his rivals? They burned down his drug factory? The face fucked his daughter?

>outside of the hands of most runners so why bother
>most runners

Kane isn't most runners. And while I've not heard of him having one, don't tell me you'd be surprised if he did.

She lives in a concrete basement with no windows. It's as spartan as can be really, the only stand out feature is that under the fridge is a secret room filled with guns. Also a bunch of work out equipment and a small meditation mat with incense.

Is this a functional build for a Decker that can hold his own in a fight to a basic degree? 3 is a little low to start with in Pistols, but having a 9-AGI cyberarm knocks the dicepool up to 12 (14 with smartgun-enabled firearms and cybereyes), along with Jazz and cyberware to knock initiative and armor/physical-resist up a touch.

It can destroy quite a bit of stuff, actually.

Well, I'm pretty sure the game doesn't have any big missiles that has stats aside from just hand-wave instadeath like the Thor shots.

I can see a ton of useful reasons for it, actually. Say they do a run against the military and they raise some alarms, and once the military decides that there is nothing they can do to stop the crazy ass runners from stealing something they don't want getting out they just launch a Tomahawk at them.

Anybody with a standing navy could have these, like how the UCAS apparently has a Nuclear Carrier off the coast of Seattle.

Tomahawks are great missiles, so I wouldn't be surprised if they just simply improved on the internals and just kept pumping them out.

>Lifestyles edition: Tell me about your runner's crib, and any nice little touches that make it unique and comfy.

My Lifestyle is Medium.
I live in loft in the Elven District of Downtown Seattle, which has a workshop for my computer-making bits and a community rooftop garden nearby so my food is a bit better then average.
It definitely costs more then a Low Lifestyle, but everyone in the neighborhood thinks I'm just a "Matrix security contracting specialist" (which I guess I technically am, just on the other side of the law) and I provide basically free help with the building's Matrix security protocols and help everyone with their computer hardware for free, and thus I don't need to worry much about my neighborhood screwing me over.

I tend to NOT bring my work home with me, just to ensure that my running and living remain as separate as possible for safety and comfort.

Guy is barely a runner at all since he runs what amounts to an entire pirate fleet.
He can assemble a team of runners entirely composed of people who WORK for him, which is not a runner at all really.

Thing is, Kane's turned down the idea of hijacking a military submarine (Source is Used Car Lot from 4e, I think) on the possibility it might contain WMDs and get him in more hot water than even he'd be comfortable with. As soon as any word got out that a runner was in possession of what described, shit would get uncomfortable very fast.

>crib
My runner sleeps where they drop.
Street for life.

>A 15 story medium office building takes over twice the damage as a 16 story large office building to bring down

CGL can't even keep their rules consistent within the same table

Utilizing the same logic, the GBU-43 Massive Ordnance Air Blast would be 1,932 DV and, if using exotic materials, would create a background count of 95.

Anons, what would happen in a background count of 95?

We learn that we should not extrapolate the rules for explosives to heavy military ordinance, which should be left in the realm of GM abstraction.

You find yourself momentarily paralyzed and surrounded by five giant individuals looking down upon you, throwing humongous dotted cubes around the unmoving forms of you and your friends.

He lives in a rooftop 'apartment' that's basically a big industrial AC unit that got gutted and turned into living space. It's pretty ramshackle, but it's got running water, electricity, bootleg-as-hell matrix access, and it's hard to find and damn near requires climbing gear to access.

mfw one of the giant figures is me

Funny enough, the stats on the Tomahawk create a pretty accurate blast radius. Dunno about the MOAB though.

You should really be looking at the naval weapons rules from Cyberpirates

Considering making a rat shaman

1. Should I go full mage, mystic adept, or adept?

2. What spells are fitting of a rat shaman? Illusionary I would assume, but anything else? Detection?

I'd say go either mystic adept or adept with adept spell once or twice. Focus on infiltration and detection spells. Illusion isn't a bad idea but you can always just hide in the vents.

I've never been good at making mystic adepts. Any pitfalls I should be wary about? Also, since I'll be picking up the mentor spirit... I assume as a mystic I get to choose one of the advantages? I assume I don't get both.

Honestly the only person I've never seen not mechanically gimp themselves making one is a friend who is a munchkin par excellence. I guess with having to split attention between powers and spells you have less selection overall for accidental trap choices or something.

I do believe you choose only one advantage, yes.

As far as building one, I'm not too great at shadowrun yet (outside of a regular spirit-agnostic physadept, which amounted to 'get improved reflexes 3 and 10+ dice in pistols and go ham').

I'd suggest getting one or two versatile detection spells and dedicating the rest of your PP to boosting your infiltration skills (not getting bonus dice, I mean things like 'fitting through spaces smaller than your head' or 'never leaves footprints.' You can get 12 dice in stealth at chargen, that should be good for a while.)

I'm contemplating doing magical crafting, but what with my low skill count it looks dicey. I'm brushing up on what is actually important when it comes to magically crafting, but my current Sum to Ten is
Metatype: D Human
Stats: B
Magic: B Mystic Magic 4
Skills: B
Resources: E

I was considering spending my magic skills on Spellcasting and Assensing. Suggestions?

What would be good concepts for the Dependent negative quality other than the typical "I've got kids at home" ?

My GM wants to play around with it and I think it could be fun, but I really don't see my young dryad face having kids yet.

Disabled or impaired parent could be one. Or even a live in girlfriend/boyfriend. I played a human Decker with a dumb as shit Troll Father she had to take care of constantly. It was pretty fun actually.

A grandparent or parent maybe? Retarded cousin or sibling?

I once did it as a low level gambling/BTL debt.

Mostly because the character had the dice to not have to worry about normal addiction rolls most of the time.

Make a step in the other direction, have an elderly parent at home.

Or you have a partner living with you and all the hanky panky keeps you busy.

Or you provide shelter for homeless people or take care of orphans.

Basically anybody who seeks a lot of contact to you without being (too) usefull.

Runs a street orchard for her area, pays for all the fertiliser and non-copyrighted seed herself.

>Lifestyles edition: Tell me about your runner's crib, and any nice little touches that make it unique and comfy.

Doesn't get touched in our group at all, which i find kind of sad.
The rest is good though (and its IRL), so its alright.

Hey Yekka, how do I report issues to you? I tried making an account on Dumpshock, but the forum doesn't want to send a verification email.

issues.chummer.net, [email protected] or here, basically. I prefer to have issues raised on Github since it makes it easier for me to pester you for more detail if it's more than a quick fix that's required, and helps me not lose track of everything.

Will do, thanks!

Other than younger siblings/cousins which are effectively the same thing? Well, there's older family relatives as others suggested, perhaps an old teacher if you have the Sensei quality as well. There's also the possibility of that friend or family member who always says he's on the verge of a breakthrough that will make him a rich man and you just don't have the heart to tell him it'll never work.

Thanks for the ideas everyone ! I think I'll either go for the elderly parent or if the GM allows it, it's really cool and original.

Nevermind, I went through the issue logs, and it seems you're already addressing the one I was going to bring up. Nice work!

Which is it?

When taking the infected Quality, Chummer doesn't subtract 1 from your Essence, which doesn't take away from your Magic either. I made a character and kept having to remind myself what my Essence and Magic was. No biggie.

Go Magic A. 10 spells are just too good to not take.

hoi

technomancer book out yet?

Nope

better luck next time I guess

I can't think of ten spells I'd actually want to have though, I mean...I'd be fine with like five. Also, I wouldn't know what I could decrease in order to afford it.

I'm comfortable with the idea that my character isn't going to be a super all powerful mage right out of chargen. Adepts are as far as I dabble in this game concerning magic, so I'm a little out of my element here. I have been looking at the Enchanting rules though, and it sounds kind of cool to have that kind of character.

Question though, can non magic users use your preparations? Or do they have to be a magic user to say activate the command word or something?

Small, crummy, apartment. Bare floorboards, piles of laundry, old takeout containers and the only thing passing for decoration is the table covered in computer parts and half-built terminals

Should I read core ruleboog 2nd printing or Master Index Edition if i want to get into SR 5e?

You're a decker, ain't ya?

Yep.

A blind and paraplegic little sister who is his sole reason for running.

Come to think of it, Lelouch would be an awesome face. Lots of mental stats, maxed out con and acting, aspected magician. What spells would he use?

Ah, yes. I keep forgetting to do something about that. The order of operations doesn't play super nice with Chummer's logic for Essence, since you'd technically have to pay for a point of MAG straight away; I may have to code up a special kind of Essence deduction for it, but it's a bit of a mess.
Master Index Edition is the newest printing.

Thanks!

Control Thoughts is an absolute must. I'd actually stat him as a social adept with that as his only spell (via adept spell).

Lelouch (what the fuck kinda name is that supposed to be anyway?) would just be spamming Manipulation psychic spells constantly.
Control Thoughts, Mob Mind, and Influence pretty much cover everything he can do, perhaps with some dips into Compel Truth, Control Emotions and Mob Mood.

He'd likely practice Black Magic as a tradition due to it's heavy emphasis on power, manipulation, and control as well as his utter ruthlessness when it comes to attaining his goals.

Hate to be a pest /srg/, but I was wondering if Anons would be willing to share their favourite pictures of Shadowrun-type night clubs/dive bars and the like. I need some inspiration for some designs and decoration.

I've been having issues with opening files in updated instances of Chummer, is that something unique to me or no? Like I need to keep about two or three iterations of it on my computer since newer PCs who join a game make their sheets in their most recent version.

Also the mentor spirit list is incomplete and someone in my group has Horse but that's just us remembering to use notes. I'm way more concerned about the update issues

It's an anime name.

Give me an example. Generally speaking, Chummer should never fail to load an old character, unless that character has data faults that haven't been accounted for. New versions of characters are largely not backwards compatible with older versions.

I'm opening a file in build 178 right now. When I try to open in the most recent, which the changelog says is 191, the whole thing crashes and the crash notice box says it was unable to start correctly.

Show me the file?

While we are on theme about homes and explosions.
What would happen if someone decides to drop a grenade in my house's basement where I keep all my gear? Have around 3-4k rounds of ammo,20 HE and stun grenades, 15 smoke, 10 teargas and few 7seven. Oh and 3 frag rockets.

Its still in char gen mode, I'm helping a new person make their sheet. Is that the problem here? Except the finished PC sheets do the same thing. I'll upload it to mediafire if you want a copy in a bit, I'm trying to fix some other computer issue right now. My antivirus software keeps locking down the latest version when I launch if I hadn't disabled it because it thinks it is unusual, and now everything is fucked up.

Depends what kind of grenade and where it lands.

A fragmentation grenade hitting the floor will shred some stuff but the chance of a chain-reaction of sympathetic detonations caused by shrapnel alone is very low. More potent explosions or grenades landing directly on or next to shit though? That'll level your house, easily.

Honestly I think pretty much anything goes. There's a glitzy side to Shadowrun whereby many bars and clubs will adopt all kinds of crazy themes and weird aesthetics to stand out from the competition. You've got AR to add another dimension, and in some rare cases even astral space might be involved.

Forgot my pic

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More explosives it is. If im to go down Im taking the neighborhood with me.

Honestly I'd start out by making sure everyone's using the same version. 5.178 is over a year old. If the character loads in that but not in the latest, then I'm going to need to see the file to know what's wrong with it.

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Thank's guys. Time to make a new character

I'll do some talking in my group later then, see if everyone can open their sheets in the most recent version or see if the problem is on my end. And if so I'll get ahold of you via email.

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It was a high rise apartment in one of Seattle's better neighborhoods. It had everything. I was gonna pay it off.

Then the Triads found my Mutaqua friend hiding out there.

There's a kaiju themed one somewhere, the waitresses wear costumes and the floors have AR skyscrapers and cars that run from them

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Oh god, just capture that blood mage already and shut up about your apartment.

>I can't think of ten spells I'd actually want to have though, I mean...I'd be fine with like five.
And so would I, until I needed that 6th spell.

That's part of life, right? Can't prepare for everything.

I'm sad I've run out of skill points and I don't have all of the skills I want. Heck, if I could trade two spells I should know, for karma, I'd be ok with that.

>kill a man as part of a job
>years pass
>suddenly, the man's kid comes along and tries to kills, citing revenge for his father as a motive
>the kid is a chump, it would be as easy to take him out non-lethally as it would be to take him out lethally
What do? I'm not sure what I'd do with my streetsam...maybe he'd kill the kid same as if some random ganger attacked him, but then he was a dumb kid who went into a violent career for reasons that were stupid in retrospect, so maybe he'd knock the kid out and try to explain to him that in the grand scheme of things I'm just a tool that the corps and syndicates use to wage their secret wars against each other and his father was just a man who was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Too much is left out of this description for someone to make an accurate suggestion.

>How did they find out it was you
>Explain what "as part of a job" details. Was he the target, or was he wrong place wrong time security guard?
>What is the streetsams moral compass in relation to killing people on the job? For nonlethal means, or is it dog eat dog?

Answering questions like these help to answer the question itself.

I mean, this could just be the GM going "Hur dur moral dilemma" and there's really no right or wrong answer.

Are there stats for some kind of ape or monkey critter anywhere in 5e? I had this idea with the Shapechange spell to shapeshift into an orangutan every time I get into a gunfight and use my spell hits to pump AGI