/CofD/ &/wodg/ Chronicles of Darkness and World of Darkness General

While you could do it with Arcana, why not just hijack a Changeling's already existing magical piss forest hollow?

Well, did post it in a previous thread. Here's a link to the post, should still be good.

Good luck, man! It looks like a worthy project.

These really should be placed in the MEGA for future generations to enjoy.

Is this thread going to be mage or vampire shitposting?

Why can't we have a good old fashioned 'oWoD was better' thread?

Because a true Whizzard creates his own magical realm.

What really needs to happen is more WoD folk homebrewing stuff so as to justify a space in the MEGA. Classic, Chronicles, whatever.

We could do werewolf shitposting instead if you like, I'll start

The Uratha are more interesting in concept and more compelling in execution than the Garou ever were

Because wizards with sparkling beards are better than gross smelly leeches.

How is this so hard to understand?

Life is all you need

No, because any shitposting will be reported.

Some players prefer vampires, some players prefer mages. Archmages are very powerful because Masters of the Art was the Dirty Secrets of the Black Hand all over again. That is the sum of it, and nothing more needs to be said.

I would rather discuss gay werewolves than shitpost about them.

That isn't a shitpost. Its absolutely and unequivocally true.

Life and Forces.
Looking forward to it. This and homebrew beetle Fera that actually sound cool. What a time to be alive.

>Implying reporting does anything at all

>My Opinion: an editorial

Just don't.

Litany don't say nothin' bout buttfuckin'

Who the fuck made you king of this thread. How the fuck are you qualified to say what kind of posting or discussion is or isn't allowed. Such hubris reminds me of
>MAGE SUPREMACY

I've not read anything about the Uratha past a few bits and pieces to steal tracking mechanics for other games.
How do they differ from WtA wolves other than the obvious lack of meta-plot?

I know it does, because I copped a 24 hour ban once for posting the unedited picture of the Horned God from CofD's Changing Breeds book, all 18 inches of him. The mods can't be everywhere at once.

Bare minimum it hides the offensive post, so your eyes can parse the thread without having to see such feebleminded blithering.

So is mages being powerful, but that doesn't stop people from shitposting about it

No but seriously WtF nails down the dual nature thing so much better than WtA, down to Harmony working differently than Humanity or Wisdom or Clarity does. You want to stay in the middle, not be at the top.

You mean you actually broke the rules by posting NSFW images explicitly forbidden on blue boards. That has nothing to do with the offense you take at literally every meme /wodg/ has.

>Who the fuck made you king of this thread.

More the Monitor, really.

> How the fuck are you qualified to say what kind of posting or discussion is or isn't allowed.

I bothered to read the global rules, like the home page asks you to before posting? There's no need to be so upset. Just follow the rules and you'll be fine.

Here's how to really shitpost.

I don't know why the Pure are portrayed as the bad guys. I mean sure, the Fire-touched are a little out there, but there's nothing wrong with the Ivory Claws and Predator Kings. Killing Father Wolf was a mistake and humanity needs to be put in its place.

>Claims to have read the global rules.
>Posted porn on a blue board.

Calm down, ma'am. You need to breathe.

>Monitor
That is the mod's job not yours
>I read the rules
Just because you don't like something doesn't mean its agaisnt the rules
>#MAGE SUPREMACY

That wasn't the question posed by his post. He pointed out that there was no point in reporting rules violations because reporting does nothing. I cited personal experience where it did, because someone reported me for breaching the rules.

Shitposting is not a meme. Derailing threads is not a meme. Acting like every thread on every board is /b/ is not a meme. The global rules are very clear on what is and is not acceptable.

Memes are for people too pathetic to think of anything original, anyway. Any phrase repeated often enough becomes nonsensical garbage.

Yes, why do you think I had to read them?

Those are some impressive nipples.

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You are so fucking bitter.

Obviously because you are too retarded to even understand them. One ban and you become the butthurt brigade ruining conversations that you claim are derailed because they didn't go how you want.

Harmony was definitely my favorite morality mechanic in 2e.

Werewolf the Apocalypse is about a bunch of genocidal maniacs fighting a company that wants to destroy the world like a fucking Captain Planet villain and no one wants to help them because they tried to kill the rest of the Fera in their hubris.

Forsaken is like playing a gang member who has to protect their turf from various supernatural and mundane threats and fulfill a compulsive urge to hunt.

They all come from humans, and as of 2e technically anyone could become a werewolf, as a Dramatic Failure to resist Lunacy turns a mortal into a Wolf-Blooded, and who the fuck knows how Luna chooses which Wolf-Blooded to make into full-blown werewolves. Beyond that they're far more akin to classic werewolf archetypes than Garou. As they grow more powerful they're more prone to the Death Rage, both triggering it and how long it lasts. Their diet becomes more and more restrictive as well, starting with no restrictions, then meat, then raw meat, then raw carnivore meat, then only the stuff of spirits will give them nourishment. (Though they can always resort to cannibalism, that shit always works) Their morality/integrity stat is unique in the way it works too. The ideal Harmony score is five: perfectly balanced between flesh and spirit. Their hybrid form, Gauru, is limited in use; they can only go full werewolf once per scene, for a limited number of turns. Unless they give in to rage and murder fucking everything. And they still kick ass in Gauru. They heal all non-aggravated damage every turn, get huge stat boosts, and force low-power mooks to use Down and Dirty combat rules against them, which they'll probably lose.

As for the meta, well, it's all about the hunt. Werewolves have to hunt, it's in their blood, it's in their soul. They hunt humans that threaten their territory. They hunt spirits who cross over from the Shadow. They hunt other werewolves. The focus shifts from "be nice to the forest spirits because it's what Gaia wants" to "keep the asshole forest spirits in line by tearing them apart and devouring them."

While being Captain Planet doesn't sound like horror, it does sound like more fun.

You also forgot that the Uratha has to do all these things while still maintaing balance between the spiratual and human sides.

Doesn't stop me. Won't stop me. None of you can stop me. I'm never going away. I outlived Aspel, I outlived the edition wars and I'll be helping the Mods with reporting violations long after you turn 18 and leave the website. I don't sleep. I don't eat. I sustain myself entirely from your tears. Get over it.

SO! Let's talk about 5th Edition Vampire. Are we looking forward to it, or have the teasers so far filled people with a sense of dread?

He's selling the concept short a little bit. Territory is important to werewolves, but they don't just run people off, they hunt down rogue spirits that have crossed over from the Shadow.

I thought Uratha were forbidden from killing humans and other werewolves?

Yeah, but it's all about the hunt. Like literally, that's all it's about. It doesn't lend itself to the same layered conflicts that Apocalypse did.

Also, Apocalypse wasn't limited to Pentex as villains. There were spiritual enemies, tribe politics, mortal hunters as well as spirits belonging to the other two members of the Triat to contend with. Weaver minions could be just as lethal, if not more so...

>5th Edition Vampire

I'm lookin' forward alright. Yessireeeee. Some brand new lawn chairs for meeeeeee.

No, they're forbidden from eating the flesh of humans and werewolves, though they do it sometimes in the same way vampires sometimes commit Diablerie.

Murdering the shit out of almost everything but your packmates is just par for the course for Uratha.

Yeah 5 edition is ok but vamps still can't do shit against a mage with a little bit of preparation

Apocalypse was pretty much "fight the Wyrm" and that's it. Pentex is the Wyrm. Black Spiral Dancers are the Wyrm. Fomori are the Wyrm. Fuck, they even think Kindred are Wyrm servants.

All that shit you listed is still in Forsaken, but they feel more like rage-driven monsters constantly stretched between two worlds than a bunch of furry eco-terrorists.

You're probably worse than Aspel at this point, to be honest.

And that's the worst insult an user can give

Yes! Lets talk about how even in 5th edition kindred are still nothing more than lawn decorations to any competant mage!

So? No crossover, no problem.

Mages are Supremely cute

Notice how people are having a concurrent discussion about Werewolves without your narkiness? You're not some godsend, dumbass.

There you are, Thyrsus cutie! You're always so elusive.

I don't think we read the same book.

There were tribal politics, story hooks suggesting the Weaver was actually the Big Bad, conflicts against humanity that didn't involve the Wyrm, human hunters, Mages, Wraiths and all the denizens of the spirit world. It was possible to run entire stories that didn't feature The Wyrm. It was a major element, but far from the only element. Hell, the rulebook explicitly calls them "rage driven monsters constantly stretched between two worlds" AS WELL AS "furry eco-terrorists", albeit not in as many words.

>but they feel more like rage-driven monsters constantly stretched between two worlds
soo basically WtA again.

I know you probably grew up with apocalypse and love it but that shit is beyond campy and edgy. Not only that but the whole poison ivy/fern gully metaplot is lame as hell.

I can't stress this enough: I don't care what you think. Just discuss nicely and I won't have to click the report button. Problem solved. You're only getting shitty because you're genuinely afraid that someone is going to notice your bullshit and kick-ban you. Not. My. Problem.

So what lets me Be this badass. Mage or vampire

also what gen(OWOD) is picture related and clan

>Afraid

Try me. You disgusting sack of lard.

I'm trying to make a magic proximity mine. The idea is to hang a spell and anchor it to a rune. Then I'll stick a conditional to release the spell if the rune array is disturbed.

Sound reasonable?

Alucard is a good example of a greater Methuselah or a lesser Antediluvian.

stop being a faggot.

Alucard knockoffs are a dime a dozen. You'll officially be 'that guy' if you tried it.

>beyond campy and edgy.

So is the entire World of Darkness! You're playing the wrong games, buddy.

>Not only that but the whole poison ivy/fern gully metaplot is lame as hell.

(In your "humble" opinion)

The environment is endangered more now than when the books were first written. At this point man-made climate change is almost irreversible. Species are dying off in a Mass Extinction, and we're too busy obsessing as a species over the fucking Kardashians to even notice. These themes are more relevant than ever, even if - I'll say this politely - they aren't to your personal taste.

Gen 0 since he is far beyond Caine the memelord. You have to play mage to make anything close to as badass Alucard is.

Alucard would be a special snowflake 1 gen vampire (sort of like Rasputin) because he was cursed independently from Caine.

i don't want his personally but his power

Very different game tones and themes. Anyone claiming that Forsaken executes Apocalypse's themes 'better' is a liar or a moron, or both.

>he believes in the enviromental jew

>These themes are more relevant than ever
That doesn't mean they are handled well by Apocalypse.

I've had WtA on my bookshelf since the nineties, dude, and while you could run into Weaver or Wyld spirits or mundane threats or mages or whatever, the primary focus was always fighting against the Wyrm.

As for the rage-driven dualistic monsters thing, the rules of Forsaken absolutely beat the shit out of Apocalypse in that department. In Apocalypse you had no reason not to spend every combat that isn't with humans in Crinos. Fuck, most of the time you can get away with Crinos vs. humans if there's no cameras around. By contrast, Forsaken limits use of Gauru (unless you don't care about collateral damage) and gives you lots of mechanically-reinforced reasons to act like a werewolf in the form of Harmony and Primal-Urge.

I never considered Alucard to be badass. He's just your typical anime Mary Sue. Or a Gary Stu if you're gender sensitive.

Antediluvians are far more extensive in scope compared to the guy. He is nowhere near Cain, who is in turn nowhere near the universe busting Archmages and the stronger things they can evolve into.

But do what you want. This is your story.

I know where you can go back to.

>pulp and camp is bad
>having a sense of humor or being earnest at all is bad
>everything needs to be LE TWISTS and 'deep, thoughtful introspective work'

>he fell for the Crinos meme

Hispo master race

It's a lot less rare than Diablerie. For one thing, Frenzy never drives a vampire to Diablerie. Werewolves in Kuruth will eat what they have to to refuel.

Alucard's power actually serves a purpose in the narrative though. He wants to be killed by a human and thus prove humanity superior to monsters, but he's grown so powerful he can't get the ending he desires. I can understand if that isn't your cup of tea, but if Alucard was weaker than Hellsing wouldn't work.

It's a bit convoluted, but sure.
Why not just set a Fate trigger as "anyone I haven't invited"?
Easier, and harder to circumvent.
As it is now, they HAVE to disturb the runes for it to trigger.

I kind of want to pull the "I prepared explosive runes" gag.

Almost never, mostly due to power levels.

Well. If you do connect it to runes, just be aware that most likely you'll be making it harder for it to trigger.

Having a sense of humour is one thing, being silly is another.

Apocalypse's main themes make it close to impossible to run any serious games in it.

>Apocalypse's main themes make it close to impossible to run any serious games in it.

Yet people have been doing it for years...

Maybe you should, I don't know, try to stop being an underage faggot?

>I need Mature Games for Mature Gamers, such as Myself

Yeah we get that your a fucking treehugging furry fucking fuck

If people are successfully doing serious Apocalypse games it's despite the themes of the game, not because of them.

If I want silly games I go play Paranoia. I don't go to WoD for silly.
Sadly, apart from Masquerade, they all are.

My idea power level set up and splats, if you mixed owod and nwod, is something like..

Masquerade - Awakening - Apocalypse - Lost - Fallen - Vigil - No one cares abbut Promethean or Mummy

Owodfags are the most oversensitive and defensive fanboys on the planet. Like seriously get over yourselves.

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So what does Caine want? Does he have a goal or something?

Why hasn't he killed the third gen WMDs? Does he want them to fuck shit up?

To fuck with his childer because they're autistic morons and assholes who killed the only dudes and ladies he ever liked.