Basically the same topics as the last thread. But also I was wondering, do you think any cards from the new set will be played but haven't emerged yet? If so which ones?
How do you feel about Wizards banning and unbanning more frequently?
Is fatal push as good as everyone says? I haven't played with it desu, and haven't seen it played.
Last thing, why isn't footsteps hulk played while grishoalcannon is? Footsteps hulk goes off and you just win, can't fizzle, is it because grishoalcannon is at instant speed? Idk man, I just want to play combo in modern.
Zachary Ortiz
anyone have stonemans storefront? or the latest gen proxies
Isaac Sanders
Pls don't already start with this shit, everytime someone brings it up the thread just turns into a shitfest
Josiah Morales
Anyone play eldrazi tron? Been wanting to build it once I finish burn but I'd like to know if it's worth it
Elijah Nguyen
Wizards can fuck off with the bannings, which they should have done when they got rid of the modern pt. The only thing frequent bannings do is scare players and put people in a state of paranoia, as well as cater to the loudest majority which isn't always good for the health of the game. When cards get banned it should be because they're problematic like Skullclamp and artifact lands not because they hurt some scrubs fee fees. The recent banning of probe and what I see people crying for to be banned currently, make this banning shit a very, very slippery slope in terms of cards and power levels in modern.
Eli Carter
It's in no way better than bant eldrazi except for the fact that sometimes it cheeses out wins with chalice, that's all. It's okay, never be better than tier 2 though
Carson Ramirez
Found it ;^)
Jaxson Jenkins
The OPs have been shit the last couple of weeks. Bring back the competitive general with the meta breakdown. Casuals and poorfags can fuck off to the EDH general
Ian Diaz
>How do you feel about Wizards banning and unbanning more frequently? Hopefully it means they'll play with the banlist more to unban things for a bit to see how they shake out. >Is fatal push as good as everyone says? I haven't played with it desu, and haven't seen it played. It'll replace a few Paths, maybe a few Bolts depending on the deck. I doubt you'll see it played as a 4-of in a deck that's more than 1 color. It's more a supplement to the current removal suite than a major game-changer. >Last thing, why isn't footsteps hulk played while grishoalcannon is? Footsteps hulk goes off and you just win, can't fizzle, is it because grishoalcannon is at instant speed? Idk man, I just want to play combo in modern. Probably has more to do with the availability of the cards. More people have Grizzlebee in their collections, so they build what can work with that.
Landon Stewart
Twin did nothing wrong
Aiden Baker
>t. ass-ravaged infect player
Charles Adams
Tiers are usage based. Some decks may perform better than usual depending on local and overall metagames
Jaxon Ross
Do you really need to see the meta breakdown every day you whiny cunt? At least these ops have questions and sometimes get a decent conversation going.
Cameron Cox
If you don't like the general post, make it yourself next time. It's what I do, or when it goes a bit before someone makes a new one.
On the other hand the generals with meta decks and whatnot are usually a lot slower without the questionnaire. Probably needs a hybrid of both.
Connor Mitchell
Naya Burn and Lantern actually, but hey you'll probably feel the same when they start banning powerful cards from your deck just because people don't like it regardless of your decks status in the metagame.
Adrian Cruz
>Naya Burn and Lantern actually Oh now I see why you don't like it when they try to make the format more interactive.
Christian Jenkins
I'm op and I agree, someone should think up a basic format and guidelines for these generals to appease all the people coming, I don't feel like doing it now, maybe over the course of the next few threads I'll include in the op what people would like to see in the generals
Kevin Robinson
Booty-bothered casual detected "R8 my home-brew. No H8, plz"
I would, but the old thread is still IN THE FUCKING CATALOG and hasnt even hit bump limit yet as of when i entered this thread
Brody Rogers
>banning twin >more interactive Also lantern is interactive for a good portion of the game until the whole lock is assembled.
I'm also interested in what you play if you're even going to try and pull the "non-interactive" buzzword shit.
Joshua Reyes
What's the new bump limit? 310?
Carson Harris
Narset meme list pls
Jose Murphy
I played Hulk Footsteps for a while about a year ago. Lots of fun and suprisingly good. I think the reasons people don't play it are twofold. 1: It doesnt get as much attention as grishoalbrand. Not sure why. It might be because it's not as flashy. But lesser known = lesser played. 2:It also averages about a turn slower that gris. Gains a lot of consistency, but in modern you play those decks for the speed.
I think with dredge on the decline it would be a fine choice.
Ryan Nelson
The basic questionare, meta break down, link to helpful articles, videos and podcasts. No more OP blog posts. The last several threads have been even shittier than usual no head canon mythic tier lists. That shit was fucking stupid
Luke King
Fuck if I know. I'm still used to 150
Caleb Lewis
>no matter what the op is, or what the general discussions are, some autistic faggot will act like it's a travesty and spew "muh cancer! Anything not discussing only tier 1 decks and nothing else is cancer" Why do people do this? Ignore the posts you don't like, and comment on the ones that interests you. No one is 100% happy with everything 100% of the time, grow up. >inb4 someone calling me a faggot casual
Ethan Wood
Blame legacyfags for trying to make modern general a circlejerking thread like their own
Matthew Sanchez
>interaction >modern
It'd be a meme if it wasn't true
Jayden Anderson
What is the basic questionaire? And why not have some additional questions relevant to the current meta or something happening
Henry Clark
Please no blogs and videos. That just brings the shills crying about how their super special vlog isn't listed in the OP.
As for the meta breakdown, just copy MtGS's tiers?
Bentley Long
Stay salty Desolator. It doesn't have to be Tier 1, but the last week has shown demonstrably that shit OPs = shit threads
Better formating goes a long ways, and tier 3 decks do not impact the meta in a meaningful way. The OP as doesn't really help kick off "modern discussion" untill the last question and just feels like an mtg general rather than a thread about a competitive format
Samuel Wilson
The legacy thread seems to think the modern general is the one circlejerking. I wonder who is right.
Parker Robinson
There isn't one really. It's just whatever the OP come say up with that day for discussion. Usually something along the lines of- Playing, Hating, Sideboarding, Meta question or two.
Oliver Price
But it IS an mtg General. Specifically of the modern format.
Daniel White
The legacy thread obviously
Elijah Harris
So constructed resources et all are speshul snoflak vlogs? As for meta breakdown, both nexus and goldfish (while both very flawed) are a decent enough jumping off point
Jaxon Nguyen
Top 5 most bullshit cards in modern?
Joshua Gutierrez
No way man. Now check out the same deck i post every thread
Leo Moore
What has been wrong with last week's threads? I'd rather have an active thread, even if there are some shitty ideas rather than, "so do I run hunt master or olivia?"
Julian Campbell
Did 8rack touch you inappropriately?
Logan Walker
Example of a shitty Op
You're kinda proving my point
Jordan Jenkins
This is what happens when we make shit OP's people. This is what these threads breed.
Ryan Rogers
>chalice >bullshit >not wanting to shit all over the infect cucks life
Angel James
>Liliana >Even in the same league as bridge or blood moon Nice try
Mason Powell
How does this autistic spewing his shitty opinions reflect anything about the op? Do you think if the op had said "please no one say that Leyline of sanctity is bullshit" he would not have posted it?
Wyatt Watson
>Goldfishing until you find your lock is considered "interaction" in modern now Just pull the plug alraedy
Jaxon Foster
Than go to the EDH general. If there is nothing to talk about in a format, than why does a thread exist about it?
Liam Parker
If you let your opponent set up the lock, it is straight up your fucking fault for not INTERACTING with them and preventing it
Nathaniel Hughes
Wizards needs to stop banning shit, and nedds to start unbanning/giving controls decks the tools it needs to police the format
Jeremiah Morris
The fact that you have to interact with Lantern doesn't make it an interactive deck
Hudson Gutierrez
True, but the fact it and Tron demand interaction, and people bitch endlessly about them, tells us something about both the format and the players
Luke Gonzalez
3 mana for free discards and killshots is ridiculous, especially late-game when every card in your opponent's hand matters. Plus she comes in at 4 loyalty most of the times, so extremely hard to kill.
eh just not a fan of games hinging on if you draw your 3-4 artifact hate sideboards or not.
Carson Bennett
>goldfishing the lock Okay retard it's obvious you've never played lantern but I'm going to break down why its not a goldfish deck. Firstly the deck runs discard to interact with the oponnent in the early game to just not die. Secondly you pack removal in the form of Collective brutality and abrupt decay, the former often putting a lot of decisions on how you should interact with your opponent using it. Often times you'll have a lantern and 1 or 2 rocks in play and it's worth mentioning that rocks in this deck are akin to counterspells in a traditional control deck. If you don't have the absolute nuts you're constantly asking yourself if you should mill x or let them draw it, which is essentially the same as letting a spell resolve.
I can see how once the lock is in place it can seem non interactive, but the entire basis of the deck is interacting with your opponent with what you have and making decisions on how to close the game accordingly.
Easton Gray
Welcome to Modern: the Sideboarding you seriously sound like someone who went FNM for the first time. I'm trying to find a less dickish way of saying git gud, but i'm failing
Jeremiah Morgan
Also I forgot to mention pithing needle and surgical extraction as well. Just because lantern attacks and plays from a different angle doesn't make it a goldfish deck.
Luis Clark
no I totally get it people bitched at me last thread for the dumb questions
Henry Adams
What deck do you play? Perhaps we can help you git gudder then stop asking stupid questions
Thomas Stewart
>Is fatal push as good as everyone says? I haven't played with it desu, and haven't seen it played. Time for Gurmag Angler to shine
Gabriel Cooper
>implying any of those are problematic
Hey guys, check out the mardu vehicles players
David Smith
I wonder if the pauper dredge skeleton would work in modern
4x anglers 4x mandrills 4x push 4x decay 4x stinkweed imp Season to meta
Easton Turner
So it's just a shitty the rock? Sounds bad desu
Brayden Foster
tron is modern's biggest police deck. prove me wrong
Eli Carter
lantern is the fucking definition of an interactive deck
Robert Moore
Can't now that rwin is gone
t. Tron player
Asher Long
*twin
fml
Jose Harris
>not having the meta stats bookmarked >being this much of a fag Just like fuck off to reddit's spike sub reddit. It's completely devoid of creativity and optimism, sounds like the perfect place for you.
Aiden Miller
>reddit boogeyman >meanie spikes in a competitive format
Fuck off back to the EDH thread, timmy
Aiden Taylor
If I want to beat tron(or at least have a 50/50 MU preboard), but don't want to play mindless all in aggro or scapeshift/AN what should I play? Would Death and taxes be my only option?
Daniel Reyes
Nah, chalice for 1/stony silence tends to fuck us
Jonathan Carter
Any deck that can run Ghost quarters + Surgical so you can get rid of their Urza pieces.
Caleb Rogers
Is slaughter games good vs lantern?
Daniel Torres
You're probably better off just playing artifact hate senpai.
What do you play? I could give you some suggestions if you want.
Samuel Powell
We want to help people who want to become competitive grognards like us you useless piece of shit. The OP should have those links to maintain those standards.
Anthony Clark
RG Breach
Adam Harris
I'm assuming you run grudge so let's go over other options that aren't just for lantern.
Woodfall primus can be breached and kill bridge, get in for 6 and then hit something else they control while leaving a 5/5 on board.
Chalice on 1 can just destroy us if we don't have a ton of stuff down already and Engineered explosives is too good. Nature's claim also isn't terrible since it can hit leyline too.
I might be missing a few but those are generally the cards that give me a headache.
John Hughes
RUG delver
Elijah Bell
>rug anything not scape shift in modern Ebin desu
Asher Baker
How do I beat bant eldrazi? Seriously, I fucking hate this shit it's like jund but bigger
Parker James
You're the one shitting up the thread with meta OP discussion and not modern discussion which you have shit on for not being "good enough" modern discussion
Cooper Nguyen
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Leo Russell
RUG scapeshift is garbage. Jokes on you Best to never play new decks tho amirite lmao!
Ryder Ward
how does hulk footsteps do against hate? gris can play through/around a decent amount of hate in my experience
reckoner skred with maindeck roast
Dominic Watson
what the ever loving fuck is this pasta
Isaiah Allen
That's a fine linguini
Ian Roberts
>listing ranges as highest-lowest instead of lowest-highest I'm actually pretty triggered right now
Luis Bennett
interactive for who? the pilot, coz it sure as shit stops the opponent from being able to interact at all.
Luis Green
generally when people speak of interactive decks they mean decks that interact with the opponent. got off track i think
Henry Hughes
Not the same guy but I also play Hulk Footsteps and it can play fine against hate. Be it Makeshift Mannequin to protect against Path or Greater Gargadon and Venser Shaper Savant shenanigans as the alternate line for the combo that sidesteps the graveyard hate and Leyline protections.
Sebastian Adams
I won a small 16 man tourney recently with G/W hatebears. Played against THREE Lantern decks and 1 Young Pyro/control deck that was like Mardu colours in the Swiss.
Gabriel Watson
Wow, wish when I played in tourneys I could just play against shit meme decks
Anthony Harris
I had not played the format in a while and I was just going to take GW hatebears and just hope to shit on everyone with Leonin Arbiter+Ghost Quarter. Turns out to have been a pretty good idea against the rest of the format since hardly anyone I played against were playing much basic lands.
Ayden Mitchell
huh, then i'd guess that gris is more popular just because it's flashier. that's pretty much why i picked it. i feel like it also has more wins on camera and tournament finishes so i bet the exposure factors in. do you have a good game 1 vs permission decks?
Evan Flores
Gris is more popular because it can sometimes go off on turn 1, turn 2 or turn 3. Footsteps Hulk only goes off Turn 3 at the earliest(barring SSG plays aside.) Most game 1's against permission decks are 50/50, sometimes you catch them asleep and sometimes they just have the right answers. Swan Song usually helps after game 1.
Now with Walking Ballista in the format that gives us two different cards with 0/0 XX costs with the other being Hangarback Walker. Right now going to see if the instant kill combo of fetching Disciple of the Vaults+Hangarback+Walking Ballista is a viable enough combo kill. Personally I still prefer the Body Double+Seer combo interaction but i'd still like to try this alternate combo anyway.
Nolan Evans
Post a list My mind haven't recovered from the loss of gitaxian probe yet
Ayden Gomez
Body double seer combo is infinitely better in modern
Jackson Gutierrez
It is but I am not adverse to trying spicy new things.
Anthony Long
>interactive for who? the pilot Of course. That's what interactive means.
Ryder Perez
You're interacting with the opponent up until you can get a hard lock (3+ mill rocks + bridge). Just because the endgame is a prison doesn't mean the deck is non-interactive.
Jace Sanchez
Rate my meme deck idea. Grixis tempo with shitty creatures that give you construct tokens and thopters, with the general grixis good stuff package, also emphasis on this card, obvious 4 of. And a shape anew package, 4 of shape anew with blightsteel, and stuff like spell Pierce and remand to keep you going. Idk, think of it as like a worse grixis delver, but with turn 4 kill potential
Tyler Johnson
>Rate my meme deck >doesn't post deck
shit/10
Adrian Perry
I said rate the idea, I'm not sure how the deck will shape out yet