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oh yeah, oops forgot to remove the rules and shit, new pc with new battlescribe.

> some dude responding to something directed at me
Don't be a dick

I am a very new player with Blood Angels army and I had a problem on last match, and that problem was artillery (astra militarium specifically). What the heck should i do with that? With one blast he destroys almost all of my troop. Should i simply dont care about casualities, just spread infantry and get into melee asap (10 death company with jetpacks)? Or somehow counter it with my roaster (get my own artillery)?

Also is deeps strike on Death Company a good idea and can i charge after landing a drop pod?

The list seems to rely extremely heavily on the plasma dudes, although I suppose the flyers offset this as they can deal with AV/MCs and hordes on their own.

Looks good, but if you're DSing your executioners within 6" of your Command Squad it seems like they wouldn't have a great threat range because of how protective you'd need to be of your CS?

It's not being a dick, it's constructive critisim.

If i was a dick i'd call him a useless retard who need to lean how to BS before he posts, but seeing as the UI IS a mess, I don't.

Maximum spread, 32mm bases if you can, hide out of LoS to force scatter, deep striking things to threaten or take out the artillery, using your own artillery such as Quad Mortar Rapiers.

Blood Angels are pretty weak if they can't do their specialty, which is basically melee and melta.

Well the plasma squad will always be effectively twin linked and you're right, i'll probably keep the cs back since they're so vulnerable. Also don't forget the melta squad, I have an alternate list where I run two 5 man plasma squads with 4 plasma guns and a vox instead of the meltas, but I keep them there since I only have the lascannon and the missiles for S8 and up.
This is the other list.

My first ever models painted.
How am I doing?

The Father of a Salamander

>Ah, son, you're back!
>I heard from the Pattersons you made 9th Company - Decimater or something like that. Haha, always knew you liked those big flamers.
>You got that there power fist with you today? There's this big lump of plasteel in the back that just won't... No? Ah well. I'm sure it'll be here when you next visit.
>You meet any ladyfriends out in the big black sea?
>Your Ma? Ah, no, she passed a couple of decades ago. Accident in the forge. You know how clumsy she was around ledges... All feet and no leg, hah...
>Oh, nearly forgot! You're a proud grand uncle now, you know. Tibby's boy made head forger a few years back. Found himself a lady, and next we knew, he twisted her a ring and she pushed out a little girl. Suzabel. She's a real beauty. While you're here, you really ought to... Another time then.
>Tibby? Well, he went the way of your Ma. Assembly line went whack, spewing big chunks a' metal all over. The 'priest told me Tibby did his hero thing, "Just like my brother," you know, and tried holding the loose belt with just his powersuit arm. Said he saved a few lives before it split, but you know how it is with them 'priests. Could have just been trying to keep my morale.
>Oh, I have that vid-album you asked about last time. Let me just- You sure? You seemed real keen on it then... Alright. I'll leave it be.
>How's that Damien you mentioned before? That scout brother you initiated with? Orks? Ah, son. I'm so sorry.
>If you stay the hour, I can whip up your favorite! I'm no Ma, but we- I, well, after last time, your Ma and I decided to always have some in stock so we'd be ready at any time, haha!
>Not today? Aright, son. Keep doing the Emperor proud. Your doing me proud, you know. Me, your Ma, Tibby - all of us. We love you, son.
>Next time, if you can drop a vox when you land, I can gather the rest of the family, so- you know. Little Suz will be a woman then, you know.
>Bye, son.

gotta head off, it's getting late in aus, g'night guys.
cya tomorrow. (writer of the d99 lists)
If you need tips go to the 1d4chan d-99 7e tactics page.

Cheers for the help dude

Good for a first ever, though i'd say every colour needs a second layer and the eyes need to be coloured in.

I didnt get a permission slip for this feels trip

Oh, it's still a work in progress, I figured I'd do eyes last.

I've done second coats, am I watering down too much?

First attempt at a new 1850 points list, long time sisters player trying to use new imperial toys.

Not sure how to go about optimizing this

1850 Aspectdar list.

Trying to get some games in until GS2 lands and I'll have to decide whether to keep them.

Well the red and blue are rather dark and dull, so a third might be in order, robes and aquilas are a bit on the dark side too.

Though it may all be down to lighting.

Anyone else fantasize about Chaos daemons skullfucking Tau capitives to death?

GIVE ME THOSE STEAMING HOT OPINIONS

Which army has the BEST troops unit in terms of effectiveness for the points?

Who had the best (most broken) troops unit of all time?

Oh yeah, my lighting is utter shit.

The red especially is somewhat dull, though, and the blue is probably dark because it's Macragge Blue that I put with a little leftover white I had out.

I'll give em another go-over next time I'm working on em.

Cheers.

Ork boyz

:^)

>Which army has the BEST troops unit in terms of effectiveness for the points?

Windrider Jetbikes with Scatter Lasers, no contest.

lol
Real talk though, I REALLY wish orks were better.
Their entire codex seems like it hasn't been buffed since the faction was introduced.
If anything, they seem worse.

Interesting.
Care to explain further?

I still have no fucking idea why GW put those pieces of shit in troops. They used to be fast attack.

Because point costs always matter, those two categories are basically the same thing. Make something cheap enough and it'll be the most efficient. No matter how overpowered something is, if it costs more points than it should be, it's not going to be good.

Next do the father of a Minotaur who's can't afford presents cause those dirty fucking tallarns keep taking the good jobs, the damn socialist governor keeps raising beer and tobacco prices and the AdMech conspiracy is targetting him personally so his lottery number never come up, not even hsi daily Aquila scratch tickets win.

Oh and make him permanently disappointed in his son not begin chapter master after spending a full decade in the chapter.

Samm-hainn

Should just return them to FA and then do a Core choice where they're obsec with 1/3 heavy weapons.

Maybe a let the full acess riders have a auxilliary formation with a vyper escort that gives them the old laser-lock.

How new are you?

chaos space marines

Just checked it on PC, instead of my phone, and yeah, the lighting really doesn't help.
They're much less black in reality (although still very dark) etc too.

27 PPM

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This closer to reality?

Probably a dumb question, but an important one right now nonetheless.

In the Wrath of Magnus book, the rules part, it lists all the formations that can be part of a Thousand Sons Grand Coven on pages 36 and 37. Three of these formations (Lord of the Thousand Sons Legion, Daemon Engines, Legion Armoury) only contain a single unit and have no special rules. Are these still technically formations that can be taken in a Battleforged army, even outside of the Thousand Sons Grand Coven? Or are they only for that specific uber-formation?

I can't see anything that would make them not formations and therefore not usable outside of it, besides their lack of special rules. Can anyone clarify this?

That one needs to be edited with a not-white backdrop.

White backdrops are "better than nothing but not a whole lot" tier as it fucks with flash, lighting and light temperature detection.

Grey, tan or ideally blue to light grey gradient is far better.

does battle focus allow them to flat out?
if yes then well that's just another dollop on the shit sunday
if no then why did they leave that rule in?

Because when they were Fast Attack, Samm-Hain armies could move them to Troops. When the 4th edition Codex dropped, the old Craftworlds supplement was rendered null and void, and Jetbikes were moved to Troops to facilitate those armies.

The problem isn't the bikes themselves. Unlike, say, Marine bikers, Windriders are still garbage in combat and aren't astonishingly tough. It's the fact they can all be given a heavy weapon. If they brought back the one-in-three limitation and maybe made them a point or two more expensive, they'd be fine.

Yeah, somewhat.
The red probably isn't that vibrant still, but outside that pretty close.

No, only Run.

The left it in cause it's attached to all living eldar.

They also have a fucking 3+ save for no fucking reason, meanwhile. Reavers have a 6+ save. Hell, most Aspect Warriors only have a 4+, so why the actual fuck do guardians have a 3+ save?

Everybody else a part for de and tyr got stronger. The ghaz "update" was a joke. Finger crossed for next edition

No, they count as indepent formations only if they have their own dataslate somewhere, as it stands they are just fillers so you can take a single commander or a vehicle in the decurions.

those are so dark I'm not sure if they support Luther

Do you have a source for that somewhere? Not that I don't believe you, I just need to be sure that I have it stated somewhere that those aren't formations.

>Reavers have a 6+ save.

5+. The bike's armour confers a 5+ save, just as the Windrider's bike confers a 3+. Lowering it to 4+ would be pretty justifiable though, and might make Shining Spears more attractive if they retained it at 3+.

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Overall decent start for a beginner, but here's few pointers:
- Try to tidy up the lines between the red and the metal, as well as between the green and metal on the backpack. Use a small brush for this.
- The white looks a bit thick and chalky. When painting white, always clean your water and build up from light grey to avoid having to apply too many layers.

For (you)r printing pleasure.

Honestly I think it's just that a formation to classify as such needs to have more than one unit in it. I have no idea where it's written on the rulebook but common sense makes me think that way. Also if you want to make your army with only single units you can just go unbound.

So there's no absolutely clear answer one way or another? That sucks. Guess that's GW for you.

They aren't a independently available formation because they don't have a formation datasheet.

The Detachment creates a "artificial" formation to let them be taken.

Eldar codex has it too with all their phoenix lords, special characters and the avatar as one man formations just to make them available to the detachment.

There probably is somewhere in the many rulebooks and FAQs but as GW doesn't care about simplicity you just have to agree with your opponents whether you can or not or call an Administratum team to go find it in the archives.

What's the best way to brighten up the green?
It's just straight Caliban Green at the moment, which is what I thought the go was.

I've been having a lot of trouble with the white. It looks like it had air leaking in or something, and has mostly dried out.
When I watered it down it just became super runny and unusable.
I'll keep in mind neatening up lines next time I get to it, thanks.

>I have no idea where it's written on the rulebook

Don't have my book to hand, but check the box-out that describes what Formations are, in the chapter about organising your army before a game. I think it says that a Formation needs its own datasheet, which tells you what's in it and what bonuses it gets. Which would rule out the little add-ons the other user is describing, since they don't have separate datasheets.

40k works backwards, it's forbidden because it's not written it's permitted.

No logical conclusions, extrapolations or parallels, permitted, it has to be written.

Show me your dudes! I wanna see your dudes!

Stolen army fag got from yesterday here still missing his babies.
Come back to me badly painted thirster, daddy loves you

Which ones? I've 9000 points of models.
About 50 points of them painted, 2500 points primed.

Feedback on this book?
Also, where the fuck can i download a decent epub version?
> inb4 amazon

>What's the best way to brighten up the green?
hard for me to say as i tend to use vallejo and those things are finicky.
I would have suggested taking a base coat of a mid line colour, mixing it with (parts permitting) a slightly darker colour for the shades and working your way down and mixing up for the raised areas.
I know that isn't an extreme revelation but that's all I got if i don't have a paint on me
I play green skins so i am used to the greens otherwise

are plague marines happy?

>51455135
What happened mate?

is anyone truly happy?

Is the hellrain brigade good to use with the remaining squad being a 5 man melta squad

Not gonna repost what I did yesterday, but I left my stuff at a friend's flat, we're not friends now, he won't give my stuff back

>have no one to play with
>cant find the will to build shit
>cant find the will to paint what's done
>haven't done a model in over a month
>first one in about 3 months
>haven't played a game in I don't even know

I don't even know what to do anymore. Part of me just wants to pack up everything and forget about them. There's nothing in my area, and no one wants to start it up, either. We've tried, and two games stores have failed.

You finish by constantly posting your models here and WIP to get feedback
Then you ask around you FLGS/GW to play with OR you look online to play the online version via tabletop simulator

yea kharn is

No, they are just content.

Ive reduced my hobby to just getting a box ot two occasionally. Painting it up and playing solo games.

>have no one to play with
>cant find the will to build shit
>cant find the will to paint what's done
>haven't done a model in over a month
>first one in about 3 months
>haven't played a game in I don't even know
Sounds like you need a different hobby then.

>You finish by constantly posting your models here and WIP to get feedback

I have. Pic related is the last I did. There's no motivation there. Painting them is one thing, but if I can't even use them, then why bother?

>Then you ask around you FLGS/GW to play with

Like I said, I tried. Two different LGS stores failed to get it off the ground, and a third, which is over an hour away, has a table with great terrain and no players.

As for the GW, that's 2 hours away, and down sized to a small closet.

>you look online to play the online version via tabletop simulator
Then why would I build/paint anything?

Solo games? That just sounds sad, man.

Yea. I guess I do.

Why not do commissions then? That's a pretty sweet NL

>Solo games? That just sounds sad, man
Do you watch porn with other people? No. Then shut up.

>What's the best way to brighten up the green?

you could mix some white in.

What if he does?

Thanks.

I've thought about it because some DnD people asked for their minis, but I honestly don't think I'm at a commissions point yet.

I have, actually...

Looking to build a Genestealer Cult army, really like the sneaky tactics involved. Anyone here have any insight on them?

They aren't formations. Nothing on those pages says that they are, and they don't have Formation dataslates.

Using Mutants with SoB

Fucking disgusting.

Man, sad.

It sounds like a logistical issue.
Consider playing online. You'll have plenty of opponents and you won't need to build or paint anything.

Oh forgot to mention change the multi-melta for meltaguns.
Personally I like HF+F+CF and TL-MM on the Immolator

Unless this centurions are BT you disgust me

Adding aberrant into codex when?

>I honestly don't think I'm at a commissions point yet.
Free or cheap commisions, gives you practice and word of mouth.

You high?

Playing online doesn't have the same feel, though. Years ago, my friends and I would hang out and play and paint and build. We'd play on the kitchen table or even the floor of my one friend's apartment. We'd make a day trip to the GW and play there. Once the local shop opened, we played there. It was fun hanging out and playing, and you just don't get that online.

Yea. Maybe. Idk. I haven't been to the shop in awhile. If I see them, well we'll see.

Do you still have to buy Deathwatch Overkill to get the model?

You got a library with log hours an dactivity room, or community centre with free spaces?

Do a "warhammer for beginners/500 point" games monthly.