>Lorgar of Colchis. You may consider the following. One: I entirely withdraw my previous offer of solemn ceasefire. It is cancelled, and will not be made again, to you or to any other of your motherless bastards. Two: you are no longer any brother of mine. I will find you, I will kill you, and I will hurl your toxic corpse into hell's mouth
Now if Abnett can write the book about this, Guilliman might even be redeemed.
Elijah Clark
Hell no, Abnett's shit beyond measure now.
He'd pull new fluff out of his ass just because, and write bullshit about every room the avtion takes place for 3 pages every single time.
John Garcia
It looks like a terrible cross between a Stormcast and Space Marine. Those proportions are jank, but it might just be the blue and helmet throwing the whole thing off
Like this looks actually pretty fucking good.
Joseph Butler
Yeah I agree. The proportions of Primarchs aren't that weird in the Forge World stuff. They're closer to just really large Space Marines. That looks way better as the Emperor.
Jason Moore
abnett is physically incapable of writing a book that's just about space marines doing space marine things
Carter Hernandez
Cool to see my photoshop getting shared. Glad you anons enjoy it.
Jace James
>dat proportions
Hudson Garcia
Vulkan when?
Joshua Morales
You no like secret primarchs and perpetuals.
TOO BAD.
Welcome to Age of Emprah now.
Mason Nelson
How the fuck does Reinhardt's armor work anyway? He's a normal human in that suit and the proportions of it are absolutely not human.
I'm also surprised no one's converted a mini into him yet. He'd fit right in 40k.
Owen Nguyen
>blizzard armor
Jayden Davis
He's a big guy
Nathaniel Bennett
>brainlets
Liam Flores
He's clearly a dimensionally-displaced WoW human. Maybe even a very small Vrykul.
It helps that one of the Paladin Artifacts has an easter egg appearance where it's just his hammer.
Jayden Campbell
40ku
Liam Kelly
How can this shitty Gulliman miniature be such great Emperor miniature? This is some Jaden Smith level of mindrape.
Kevin Gutierrez
>Emperor >that ugly face
Charles Lewis
because the emperor has struck that pose and his proportions are fucked
Isaac Jones
Stoooop, Hasbro.
Grayson Price
Stats or gtfo
Jose Powell
I think he actually has proportions that are close to it which could be chalked up to Blizzard having a cartoony style that is more about conveying an idea than trying to be realistic. The proportions of Zarya feel like a decent example.
It's because the spikey-eagle thing fits with the emporer.
Meanwhile Row-boat is supposed to have a roman theme, but the model lacks any of that other than the tassels.
Juan Phillips
I'm really upset about how faggy you made the fingers
Juan Russell
The sporran actually makes that model look better for me. Something about the normal ultra-wide groin that all spehs muhreens have seems exaggerated to ridiculous levels on that model and it hides it.
Now if I can just work out how to effectively file off all the Tzeentchian tentacle-detailing on the armour, it might look like it belongs to the Primarch of the Ultramarines.
Samuel Nelson
Guilliman would bitch-slap Lorgar. Horus rated Guilliman as one of his closest rivals in terms of martial ability, Lorgar was a joke amongst the Primarchs. Even Daemonhood couldn't change that.
Bentley Sullivan
Lorgar became the third strongest psyker in the world after turning to Chaos
Joshua Howard
Must be a small world.
Hunter Gonzalez
>Horus rated Guilliman as one of his closest rivals in terms of martial ability >Gets fucked up by a squad of generic Alpha Legion marines
John Murphy
>Gets fucked up by a squad of Alpharius
Aaron Robinson
>Even in Daemonhood I still job
Ryan Barnes
This is Guilleman? He looks like a night Lords marine with all that weird spikey shit.
Jaxon Diaz
More like Fag-gar of Cock-kiss amirite.
Secret twin was the only major new idea in Legion that DIDN'T come from Abnett. And Perpetuals are a loose reinterpretation or reincarnation or resurrection if you like of the Sensei, even if that wasn't Abnett's original intent when he first wrote Grammaticus (but when he first wrote Grammaticus, there were no "Perpetuals").
Magnus was a stronger psyker than Malcador though, since he was going to power the webway gate for Big E when everything was done.
Matthew Davis
Wasn't that before Chaos started to rise?
Dominic Moore
>He has faith that our mission is holy, not I. >Roboute's face when waking up and seeing the Ecclesiarchy
Asher Young
Jesus, gotta find my ant glasses to see the details.
Elijah Reed
lol
Luis Rogers
I for one welcome the Imperium embracing atheism and reason.
Lucas Green
Better?
Matthew Nguyen
He's right, Magnus was always stronger than Malcador, and he was intended to sit on the Throne. Malcador did becaus eof necessity and it killed him in mere hours.
Tyler Howard
Thanks.
Lucas Morgan
LORGAAAAAR
James Flores
more like secularism
Luis Baker
It will be a new golden age for the mankind.
Benjamin Watson
I wouldn't be surprised if he was still below Sanguinius or even Fulgrim.
Asher Nelson
>That list
Emprah Magnus Sigilite Lorgar Eldrad Sanguinius Ahriman
Cameron Ross
What the fuck are perpetuals?
Joshua Adams
People that don't die when they are killed.
Cooper Mitchell
>Eldrad I wouldn't be surprised if he's beaten out in the rankings by some shit like the Apex twins, the Pythosian psyker, some daemon or big tyranid, or just one of those throwaway super powerful unsanctioned psykers who only got mentioned once or twice.
Gavin Morris
Wait, are you saying anime lied to me?
Oliver Gutierrez
Yeah, Magnus is definately #2.
Anthony Butler
I'm hoping that 41k will have some daemon primarch sightings to go with the OG Papa Smurf's return.
Connor Hall
Guilliman never seemed that overboard with the Imperial Truth to my mind. Ollanius Pius was openly Catholic whilst living in the Five Hundred Worlds.
I think the real reason he'll lose his shit with the High Lords/Ecclesiarchy will be how disgustingly corrupt and inefficient they are rather than their religious beliefs. If there's one thing that's going to cause Guilliman to blow a gasket, it'd be corruption and mismanagement at a state level.
I wonder if he'll be tempted to bump the Ultras back up to legion strength now he's back.
Wyatt Perez
Did you miss Magnus coming back?
Brayden Jenkins
wonder how he'll get on with ol' Cato
Liam Clark
>I wonder if he'll be tempted to bump the Ultras back up to legion strength now he's back. Doubtful, he's probably perfectly fine leaving the chapters split. Gives them more autonomy, and the marines are the only ones in the imperium who still sort of hold to his ideals.
Lucas Hughes
I did not. I was just thinking that there are a bunch of other guys who we know are still around and, since the timeline is being moved forward ever so slightly now, it would be fun to see some of those other guys actually getting involved and doing stuff.
Zachary Lee
>I wonder if he'll be tempted to bump the Ultras back up to legion strength now he's back. I would think that he'd be tempted, but the division was his idea to begin with and the justifications he used back then are no less valid in the present. Reorganization for the sake of more efficient mobilization and joint performance might be on the table, but regressing the entire command structure is probably undesirable.
Carter Thomas
Why are Eldar such pathetic Psykers and Seers when its their main hats which keeps being repeated?
Jaxson Cruz
I need a full size image of this model, can anyone help?
Benjamin Sanchez
>Cato will never be top dog in the Ultramarines now, unless his PRIMARCH DIES I think Roboute would probably think Cato is kind of a tit but we'll just have to see.
Jack Rodriguez
because 40k is a human wank fest thats written solely to glorify space marines, every other faction can get rekt as far as the fluff is concerned
Landon Flores
He won't even give a shit I'm sure.
I feel like people are projecting wayyyy too much in the future with Guiliman. He's being awoken litteraly right before a BL attack on Ultramar, he's not going to have time to chitchat his way through the thousands issues of the Imperium, but rather wake up, get into the Armor of Fates, and start slashing fuckers with his daddy's sword. At most, the book will end with the victory of the UM and a side plot with the GK and the Fallen but that's it. Meanwhile there's still all the other factions and 1st Founding SM chapters to deal with, at the same time, meaning we won't hear abour Guiliman again for quite some time. Add to that the 30 year anniversary of 40k, which means a solid months hiatus on everything, and there's not a ghance he'll do what people are imagining he's going to do.
Elijah Stewart
warhammer community site, mate
Aaron Jenkins
I wonder what Rowboat's reaction will be when he finds out about the loophole abuse of the Black Templars, the Space Wolves, and the Dark Angels.
Matthew Ward
Go on Warhammer Community.
Noah Butler
What's the ETA of the triumphant return of former Supreme Grand Master Kaldor Draigo of the Grey Knights?
Matthew Bell
Dude we already know one of the battle scenarios is Guilliman's fleet enroute to Terra.
Guilliman's gonna win on Macragge in like two fights then go to Terra where the rest of the story is.
Henry Barnes
I know its just...that list puts it very badly into perspective. I mean the Eldar's top Psyker doesn't even crack the top five and, like the other user pointed out, there are people who are probably being left out who should also be on that list.
To rub salt in it Eldrad's also the worst seer ever, well 2nd to Starbane I guess, but Eldar Seers suck at predicting anything. Tigurius has a much better track record with predictions than any Eldar ever.
Sebastian Richardson
It's basically guaranteed, they've been setting up the return of all of them since the start of 6th edition.
Other anons already answered, but links for the extra lazy:
>battle scenarios is Guilliman's fleet enroute to Terra what kind of scenario is that? What fight is that even supposed to be?Ultra vs who?
Logan Robinson
Correct, unless either the Tau or Abandon is involved. They are the only things with more plot armour.
William Lopez
Kairos.
Evan Jenkins
I meant Abaddon if it wasn't obvious.
Isaac Garcia
Abaddon's still mostly lost everything. FoC is one victory, it doesn't erase all the other times he's had to run away like a little bitch.
Not to mention even the Tau only have two major victories against the Imperium, Agrellan and Prefectia, and Agrellan got negated by the Imps later anyway and then the Imps killed the Supreme Leader of all Tau and divided their Empire in half in one move.
Luis Gonzalez
>Imperial Primarch vs Kairos Fatejobber
Jordan Lewis
Pull off a coup against the high lords and then garrison the fuck out of Terra in preparation for Abaddon.
Justin Nguyen
To be honest has any named Daemon ever won a fight against a named Marine Special Character?
I mean -jobber can pretty much be attached to most non-Marine character's names.
>Eldrad Ulthjobber >Ghazghkull Mag Jobba >Ka'Jobber >Doomjobber >Swarmjobber >Magnus the Jobber >Nazdreg Jobber (have no idea how to make a play on his name, but he's never canonically won a fight so it counts) >Eldorath Starjobber and so on and so forth
Chase King
>Ghazghkull Mag Jobba Laughed harder than I should have.
Carter Ramirez
Nope, all Crusades were victories or achieved their objectives.
And the Tau ended TSE with a new positive gain in ground as the Imperial counterattack failed to push them backk across the gulf. The Tau already perfecting technology to cross the fire.
Carter Bennett
>To be honest has any named Daemon ever won a fight against a named Marine Special Character? Do Primarchs vs Daemon Primarchs count? Because I'm coming up short otherwise.
Cameron Edwards
>Abaddon's still mostly lost everything. He's come out ahead every time.
Grayson Roberts
Seriously, the Black Legion supplement has been out for years and it frequently gets referred to whenever the Black Crusades are the topic of discussion. How long can it take for this stuff to sink in?
Jonathan Howard
>All crusades were victories Sure they were.
Even if you want to accept he achieved his 'goals' doesn't change that he's lost every battle he's ever fought till Cadia and had to run away.
The Tau have only seized two major worlds, yeah, Prefectia and Agrellan (and Kauyon itself describes Prefectia as actually being unimportant). Then the Imperium blew up Agrellan, cut the empire in half and killed the only faction leader to die in pretty much the entireity of 40k. I mean the Tau do well for Xenos, sure, but you shouldn't overblow their achievements.
Aiden Scott
No, those don't count.
I am actually genuinely interested now. Has a named Daemon Special Character ever gotten the better (and not only temporarily only to be defeated later) of a Marine Special Cahracter?
Matthew Perry
Well, Ka'Bandha did beat Sangui- >and not only temporarily only to be defeated later Never mind.
And Nazdreg has had victories, but like other characters of his ilk, they're only victories of the "they happened" type.
Mason Williams
>Even if you want to accept he achieved his 'goals' doesn't change that he's lost every battle he's ever fought till Cadia and had to run away.
Nope, he didn't lose every battle. There are some victories as the fluff says and he retreats to consolidates his gains and plans for another strike at the Imperium to forward his 10K year old plan
>The Tau have only seized two major worlds, yeah,
And dozens of systems and worlds. Agrellan and Prefectia are just the focus on the narrative. All the named TSE Septs and conolies remain standing minus Agrellan. All of them were gained in 3 years and the Tau still have them due to the Imperials failure to push them back. The murdering of Aun'Va and the firewall was the Imperial response to losing the ground war. And the Tau are already bouncing back. Also half their empire? It's just the ground they gained in an 3 year expansion. It can't be more than 10%.
Jacob Hall
colonies*
Landon Davis
Honestly feel bad for the Daemons now, and that isn't a normal sentiment of mine.
Also the 'we did some damage to unnamed worlds' doesn't really ever cound since for all we know those were agri worlds. If we don't get told of any significant military opposition then it doesn't mean anything.
All of those are unimportant and minor systems, like the 200 systems claimed in the Achillus crusade and such, they don't mean anything because 40k trades those figures around very loosely and without caring for their significance.
What mattters is when narrative wait is attached to a thing, like Prefectia and Agrellan, and in the end those are the only two substantive victories the Tau have ever achieved (and the Imperium rendered Agrellan null and void later anyway).
Additionally the Tau are not 'already bouncing back' no fluff has come out yet documenting exactly what state they are in beyond separation, we'll ahve to wait and see before making a sweeping declaration like that.
The book itself says the Empire is divided in half, if I'm not mistaken, but more importantly the Empire has been cut off from the bulk of its military which was busy with the Expansion, leaving the Tau Empire exposed and defenceless for the most part. Mont'ka describes the events explicitly, thus canonically, as a Tau loss.
Henry Wright
This has also confused me. When I got into 40k Eldar kept being described as strong Psykers. But if you look at all the Fluff all strong Psykers are Humans or the Hive Mind. No Eldar has any even halfway impressive Psyker feat so why does the codex act like Eldar are powerful Psykers?