Speculative Bio/Evo

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Why would you make a thread about this topic on /trash/ instead of Veeky Forums

>tfw on phone and can't post All Tomorrows

Didn't think about it at the time.

daily reminder to remove the qu

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REMOVE QU! INTERGALACTIC RACE WAR NOW!

>tfw on phone and can't post All Tomorrows

This time, I've got YOU.

>Future is Wild
I for one welcome our squibbon overlords

I liked these ones.

Thanks, user

I for one welcome out sentient spider overlords.

Wait no I don't.

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Anyone got smart dinosaurs?

Does this count?

Man after Man is the most horrifying book I've ever read.

I remember showing it and After Man to some of my old stoner/jock friends, and they seemed to get a kick out of it. Everyone else either didn't care, or were disgusted.

Bump with tamable alien

What use are those tools would the proper arms to use them

>That pic
Grandpa?

I don't get what's going on in the second and third panels. What are those guys chopping up?

The crab thing on its head

Oh, I see.

How horrifying.

Does anyone have the picture of the Bureaucrat Bird from Spec-World? It's impossible to find.

It's even worse when you realize that the Sitta (crab-thing) and the Strida (tall thing) are in some sort of symbiotic relationship.

Also, I think the third pannel is them reconditioning the strida to hold a human.

How would a campaign in one of these speculative universes work?
Generic time travel plot?

Holy shit, that was neat.

Maybe, there's also reality-warping and space travel for the more crazy ideas (e.g. alien worlds and alternate timelines)

I'm gonna have weird fuckin dreams tonight because of this, aren't I?

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>truteal
Good to see a member of the board here.

WELP, I'm not sleeping well tonight.

Bum p with ayy doggo.

>Ignore gravital posters

My sides

Because some futures cannot be seen on a blue board.

Bump with hopping snail.

Are there no PDFs of these, beyond the All Tomorrows one?

All the Dixon ones are on Library Genesis at least

Blocked in my country, and proxies don't seem to help.

Reminder that there's thing, use it to browse for sites:
speculativeevolution.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

This is hopelessly outdated but I hope you have some luck:
docs.google.com/document/d/1u7rviJLcqUXyWNq6SLWC-1IWqstxgxDrhB2CwgfaZVs/edit

Found an alternate site thanks to your suggestion. Something called bookzz dot org.

ah yeah, that's literally a libgen mirror. Surprised that didn't get blocked along with the main site.

This is one of the most interesting things I've seen in a while. Could they be used for games?

Sivatherium is another good one.

I don't see why not. Dixon was actually gonna have humans interact with his After Man animals via time travel, so that could be a scenario.

I want

That Gravital honestly has a point. This book is creepy in an even deeper way than what one might suspect from the topic.

Frankly, it might be the sick shit that I've seen on Veeky Forums influencing my thought processes, but I'm reminded of nothing so much as transformation fetish pornography, which can sometimes emphasize loss of sapience/intelligence as a kink related to degradation. This feels especially potent in the section of pre-sapient post-Star Men life-forms, where he kind of beats you over the head with how bestial virtually every single variety of these formerly-human creatures are. Virtually any of the post-Qu species can be used as examples for this. The Colonists seem to outline another tack these transformation fetishes can take, which involves retention of intelligence alongside a crippling or humiliating transformation of the victim. They share this with the herbivorous grazing post-humans as well (for these, the author makes careful note of how their faculties for higher intelligence were slowly bred away, i.e., degraded). I'm not unconvinced that this guy had a boner the entire time he was writing/drawing this.

And then, what does he close the book with? An image of his persona as another post-human mutant. Am I just being paranoid for comparing that to what is commonly referred to as a "fursona"?

It's by the guy who came up with Fuckers, Flipdicks, and Megafags right? Of course it's his fetish.

>Fuckers, Flipdicks, and Megafags
what

>he doesn't know
His handle is Nemo Ramjet, look him up.

there will be a great war fought between proponents of biotechnological evolution and cyberneticists. Total Annihilation is a prophetic game.

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Not really sure if that creature at the end is a posthuman or not. Seems like it might just be some yahoo from another lineage alltogether, with as many convoluted steps in its development as the humans he's been studying.

>Futurama never had any After Man references

Suisei no Gargantia as well.

I believe it's a xeno species. It does mention that "humanity" has been extinct for a billion years. But speaking of the themes of degration it does feel weirdly sexual.

That's not human. It was said that humans disappeared about a billion years before writing the book.

the point of the whole book is showing that the journey, not the destination, is all that really matters. This is shown by the psyches and actions of the Qu and the Gravital. History and mankind is the creature on page 62, it's the unfinished existence of the Star Men, the autonomy of the Martian Americans.

and the autonomy*

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saccorhytus
This is the oldest ancestor of humanity that we know about and it is extinct. Going by your logic, how could it be extinct if we are descended from it? Surely we're a direct continuation of it.

Regarding All Tomorrows, humanity is extinct. A multitude of creatures that have descended from humanity are also distinct. There's probably a few creatures that still exist at that point which are descended from humanity however, with potentially being one of them.

But the writer does not talk about the humans as ancestors.

Well, obviously. He stated that at least twice, explicitly. But that doesn't mean that the actual meat of the book supports that, or that that meaning is mutually exclusive with the fact that the author might get a stiffy from writing it.

Which is the most body horror regarding human evolution of these works? I read All Tomorrows but none of the others.

by your logic lovecraft had a boner for tentacles and milton had a boner for satan
it is also possible the author was deeply afraid of the subject of intentional genetical degradation of humankind (either by ruling elites or alien overlord) and that led him to create that book
tl;dr not everything arises from sexual desire

Have you seen any of his other works? His tumblr's a Freudian goldmine.

>There's probably a few creatures that still exist at that point which are descended from humanity however, with potentially being one of them.

Nah, the one thing the epilogue there hammered home is that, at long last, all of humanity's descendants were gone, our chapter ended once and for all.

i have seen his deviantArt

Well, in After Man civilization falls, and engineered humanoids replace all macrofauna as mindless beasts, complete with food-chains.

Man After Man.

Nah.

Our race influenced other races, which laid the ground for others and others after them. Who knows, there might be a patch of fertile soil in the universe that was home to a humble species of marsupial that would someday rise to dominate an entire spiral arm of a galaxy, and it mightn't have existed without the influence of humanity, for one reason or another.

Humanity's impact was made and that's something that could never be wiped off of the face of the universe.

Well, I guess it's possible that this was in response to fear instead of sexual obsession. I was just commenting on its similarities with what I know for certain to be examples of sexual obsession (which is, of course, not mutually exclusive with fear). I don't have knowledge of anything about, for example, erotic works about race-mixing, so I wouldn't be able to compare that to Lovecraft's stuff about Innsmouth's fish people.

Not really, I'm getting the same vibes from him that I get from other authors that are deep into their magical realms, including the average Japanese doujin author.
If we're doing pop psychology I'd call it a Madonna-whore complex. He probably sees degradation as vile (obviously) but he also finds it deeply arousing and fascinating, just like he gets off on the idea of beasts brutally fucking people to death with their dick-spikes.

That's not even a Madonna-whore complex: that's specifically a complex about not being able to feel attracted to women as sexual beings without thinking of them as disgusting harlots and elevating women you don't see sexually to unrealistically pure standards.

>He probably sees degradation as vile (obviously) but he also finds it deeply arousing and fascinating...
But to find something "arousing" and "fascinating" doesn't even imply that he finds it EROTICALLY arousing and fascinating: those are both words that could adequately describe a fear response. I personally still feel there's an erotic aspect of this fascination, just as my hunch... but I could be wrong.

>...just like he gets off on the idea of beasts brutally fucking people to death with their dick-spikes.
Are we sure that this is the same guy who runs those tumblrs and deviatarts, etc.? I think that's a relevant question. There might be people out there who like this sort of thing for entirely non-erotic reasons (most of us, for example, maybe).

Anyone has All yesterdays?

That's a thing?

Here (it's also available on Sivatherium)

All yesterdays is about alternative interpretation of dinosaurs.

Got a physical copy of it and Cryptozoologicon.

>Are we sure that this is the same guy
Yes. He even advertises his books on his devart.

> Are we sure that this is the same guy who runs those tumblrs and deviatarts, etc.? I think that's a relevant question. There might be people out there who like this sort of thing for entirely non-erotic reasons (most of us, for example, maybe).

Are you absolutely positive about the sexual connotation here? When I read all tomorrows a couple of years back, it did not give me a fetish-y vibe, but I enjoyed it immensely anyway. Can't say I've ever read anything remotely like this book

FFS, you can't, with a straight face, say that you didn't find it fascinating. The book gets posted here over and over again - this means it did something right when it managed to captivate people like it did. If it was purely about fetish stuff, this wouldn't happen.

>Author talks about behaviour of species from hundreds of millions of years ago
>Talks about soft tissues, sound producing capabilities, social behaviour
>Has no actual way of knowing this from fossils

The author is in league with the Qu, I'm telling you.

There are records aplenty. Some of the beings in there even interact with the 'camera'.

The Qu had been conquered and destroyed by the New Empire millions of years before the author discovered the remains of humanity.

where does it say that?

>One could go indefinitely, chronicling how the united galaxies reencountered
and subdued the Qu

Quite easy to accidentally miss that sentence.

It is.

Boump

You would think cybernetics would be more common

Why use frail machines when you can grow strong organisms?

>Are you absolutely positive about the sexual connotation here?
Well, no. I thought I'd mentioned that. It's possible that NOBODY thinks of this for erotic reasons -- but that does seem unlikely.
>FFS, you can't, with a straight face, say that you didn't find it fascinating.
And I certainly didn't say anything like that! I admitted that I enjoyed it myself, but not in an erotic sense.
>If it was purely about fetish stuff, this wouldn't happen.
I'm not sure this is true -- but, as I mentioned before, the most likely case probably isn't as clean-cut as "he wrote it to fap to" OR "he wrote it because it was creepy." It could be both; it could be neither; it could be a strange mix of the two. Authorial intent is notoriously hard to nail down.

This bothered me a bit, but not as much as the totally handwaved problem of FTL communication. Communication moves at the speed of light, so how could anything like any of the Galactic Empires have formed in the first place, when this was BEFORE FTL travel existed in the first place via wormholes and things? He goes on and on about the vast distances and timespans involved in the eons of each civilization, and about slower-than-FTL Arks carrying species and things like that, but he never even mentions at what point FTL communication becomes possible.

youtube.com/watch?v=cBkWhkAZ9ds
It already exists though

QU GENOCIDE FUCKING WHEN

Well, the time scale is apparently outrageously long in the setting. Remember the Machine-Asteromorph took literally millions of years.

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>After Man
>The Future is Wild
My niggers. Someone post Expedition and we'll be all fuckin' set.