Alright, so I haven't played WH40k for a while now, since the prices got too much for me and the space marine obsession. I played Dark Eldar. I got an email about this update thing saying how Eldar, Dark Eldar, and Quinn's work together.
Can someone tell me how that works? I understand the 'Quinn's working with both. But craftworld and Dark Eldar seems a tad off to me.
...and why do these new Eldar models look more like Dark Eldar models?
Daniel Lopez
new faction under new god. literally -new- god. they did it again. essentially.
William Phillips
>Can someone tell me how that works? Craftworlds (main) and Commoragh destroyed, this faction are only one survived eldar faction, worshipping to shard of Ynnead.
Isaac Gray
Please god no. >Vect and Lilith not Cegoratch and Ynnead
Matthew Richardson
You'd wish.
The eldar (Aldari or something) are now 3 factions.
Thomas Fisher
What is this? A thread about the Eldar? Get the fuck out of here, we've got Roboute threads to make
Chase Myers
>The eldar (Aldari or something) are now 3 factions. In rules, in fluff only Ynnari left.
Joseph Gutierrez
The Dark Eldar and Craftworld Eldar are pretty much destroyed and merged into the "Ynnari", Ynnead worshipping faggots.
It's fucking bullshit.
BIEL TAN HAD TO DIE FOR THIS STUPID SHIT! FUCK THIS!
Do you have a Craftworld Eldar version of that picture?
Anthony Rodriguez
>But craftworld and Dark Eldar seems a tad off to me.
This has been the case for several editions now, at least ever since the DE got their revamp in 5th edition, and there were examples of them working together even before that. They don't necessarily like or trust one another, but they both have several huge mutual enemies (Chaos and the Necrons) and they'll pull together to oppose them when necessary. The Harlequins have been trying to get the two factions to kiss and make up for centuries - they finally succeeded.
Lucas White
>they finally succeeded. At the expense of destroying most of both Dark Eldar and Craftworld Eldar.
Fuck this Ynnari bullshit.
Evan Hill
>they finally succeeded. By destroying both of them
Kevin Barnes
>I will protect everyone by destroying everything Ynnari logic. Biel-Tan died for this
Liam Bailey
Will Ynnead have "demons"?
Christopher Smith
>destroying
Says who? Commoragh's probably done for, but Vect, the Covens, and the others too stubborn to give up their positions have relocated to a new web-city. Biel-tan obviously is no more, but the other Craftworlds are still intact. Their cultures have shifted, or will shift, as the Ynnead-aligned faction becomes more powerful, but it's not like 90% of all Eldar (regardless of what colour they were) suddenly upped and died. I mean that was the point of Eldrad's ritual. Getting Ynnead up and running without them all dying.
Unless one of you has information I don't?
Hudson Williams
Wait... so was Commogragh destroyed?
Nathaniel Lopez
Wait what?
Hudson Cooper
Commoragh, the central districts of, is toast. The portals connecting the disparate sections of it will be closed in time for the breach to only eat downtown Commoragh, almost certainly. The dark city is too large for one breach to eat. That said, a lot of it is fucked.
Chase Smith
Eldrad's ritual failed, he explicitly thinks so in Death Masque.
Biel-tan died. Commorragh was incomparably larger than any Subrealm, the Dark Eldar have been permanently reduced by a significant margin. Biel-Tan was the only major Craftworld left, its dead now, Iyanden gets near destroyed too so like only 1% of its pop is left.
Nolan Nelson
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Michael Brooks
>Eldrad's ritual failed, he explicitly thinks so in Death Masque.
And all of the information we've seen leaked from the new book shows that he was wrong - or at least, even if it wasn't a total success, it didn't fail either. It just didn't work as well as he hoped.
>Biel-Tan was the only major Craftworld left
Well that's completely rubbish. I've never seen anything to say it was any larger or more populous than Ulthwe, Samm-Hain, or the other major Craftworlds. And there's still dozens of smaller ones out there.
Henry Nguyen
>Says who? Says fluff. >but Vect, the Covens, and the others too stubborn to give up their positions have relocated to a new web-city. Literally unimportant minorities. >but the other Craftworlds are still intact. Dead already. >but it's not like 90% of all Eldar Actually they died. >Getting Ynnead up and running without them all dying. Ynnari main purpose is help ynnead to consume all eldars souls
Josiah Martin
No? Vect Is leading the remaining DE. And only Biel-tan was destroyed. There are still conservative Craftworlders who do not follow Ynnead.
Carter Diaz
>The dark city is too large for one breach to eat Unfortunately, Khaine's Gate's idiotic lore states that if the gate is breached, every subrealm of Commoragh is going to be consumed, because the breach cannot be contained because of reasons.
Jeremiah Fisher
Oh my fucking god, so we Aeldar now? We Ynnead worship now?
This is gonna take awhile to get used too.
Cooper Gomez
>shilling so hard
>that he was wrong Who was wrong? It's not Eldrad's words. >Ulthwe, Samm-Hain Destroyed by Chaos as Alaitoc >And there's still dozens of smaller ones out there. Consumed by Ynnead
Tyler Ortiz
REMINDER THAT THE DEATH OF BIEL TAN MEANS NO NEW PLASTIC ASPECT WARRIOR SCULPTS OR PHOENIX LORDS EVER AGAIN!
JUST YNNARI BULLSHIT AND WRAITH FAGGOTRY FROM NOW ON!
REGARDS GW!
Juan Sullivan
Of course it was more populous than Ulthwe and Saim-hann. Both those Craftworlds lost virtually every fight they were ever involved in, only Biel-Tan ever won fights, so Ulthwe and Saim-hann clearly at the very least don't have military power even vaguel comparing to Bieltan
Noah Carter
Three factions: Aeldari Drukhari Ynnari
Colton Clark
>. There are still conservative Craftworlders Only small corsair warbands
Robert Hill
No more Swordwind. I don't want to believe this.
Nolan Morgan
Yeah, Swordwing is death. Aspect Warriors will be phased out along with Phoenix lords.
Enjoy your Aeldari.
Easton Reed
Fucking fuck GW just wasted the Phoenix Lords from the moment they were introduced
Xavier Brown
I guess my biggest question now:
How does this effect GW Space Marine sales? Because it's always about the fucking space marines.
Matthew Rogers
>ITT: hysterical anons scream and cry over assumptions they've made about a book which they haven't read
Eldar are one of the most popular armies in the game, you dumb fucks. They aren't being killed off.
Anthony Hughes
Yeah.
The End times, Rhana Dandra, was supposed to be the moment of the Phoenix Lords. Biel-Tan was supposed to reclaim the galaxy in fire and blood, not via this faggy as fuck necromancy bullshit.
Ynnari are gay as fuck. They follow a literally who bitch and a god damn tranny god of death and go their merry way of slaughtering their fellow eldar to feed their god.
Bunch of Kinslaying bastards.
Nathaniel Reed
Oh look. GW IDF are here >They aren't being killed off. Yeah they remade into subfaction of Guilliman grandalliance
Adrian Perez
To be fair every fluff book they appear in they lose despite this 'popular army status' so why would this be different?
Hunter Mitchell
That's the worst part. Like I'd rather them die then now all becoming the Imperium's bitches. The Ynnari have no fucking pride, just spend their time hopping on the Imperium's dick
Dylan Lewis
I met Jes Goodwin at a games day some years ago. Back when it was good and at the NEC arena.
He just seemed like a guy who loved his job and designing cool ways to make cool concepts that tie into his head cannon. He was really kinda sad when he told me that he won't be able to design a Vect model.
I feel like he'd hate how things have developed.
Blake Thomas
What is the difference between them!?
Christopher Nelson
>I feel like he'd hate how things have developed. He seems pretty keen on this stuff, because they're letting him design a bunch of crazy models (like cawl)
they've put up a few design interview dealies up with him and another sculptor in it on their youtube channel
Jackson Miller
>because they're letting him design a bunch of crazy models Such as?
William Howard
Aeldari is just a word for old Eldar. They aren't a faction. Ynnari are 9% of the remaining Eldar and bitches for the Imperium. Drukhari is Vect, Haemonculi and some drinking buddies hiding in a sub-realm and the reamining 1% of the pop
Carter Watson
>only major Craftworld left
Alaitoc, Ulthwe and Saim Hann say hi.
Ryder Morales
Fuck no it's not even close to the truth you utter fucking retard.
As far as we know, Commoragh's fine and dandy and only Biel Tan has been splintered into many little ships instead of a one bigass craft world ship. I swear to god it's FoC all over again with people spouting bullshit at every turn, the book isn't even out you mongoloid.
Andrew Powell
the one I listed? the new eldar? He's had a heavy hand in the first two triple character releases, and likely did a good amount of work on the third too.
Go watch 'em. They're pretty interesting.
Lucas Perez
Ulthwe and Saim-hann together have literally won no battles. They can't even compared together to Biel-tan
Besides when was the last time Saimhann did anything?
Gavin Perez
Uh it explicitly in the leaks mentions Vect's ruling from a 'new Dark City' so yeah Commo is gone
Angel Richardson
>Vect >unimportant minority
Dominic Cruz
In all honesty he's never done much important to the plot other than kill Dark Eldar. I mean his biggest accomplishment is giving the Imperium access to Commorragh
Robert Flores
Well color me surprised.
Still, it's still miles away from "ALL CRAFTWORLDS DEAD AND ASPECT WARRIORS WITH THEM, DE DEAD AS WELL ABLOO ABLOO"
Ryder Baker
>the new eldar? Shiteater, plz
Kayden Kelly
Thanks man, saved me abit of headache trying to dechipher what is going on.
Caleb Hall
>Still, it's still miles away from "ALL CRAFTWORLDS DEAD ulthwe, Alaitoc attacked and destroyed by Chaos, souls consumed by Ynnead, Yaden even more dead now, Bile Tan is gone, shitton of lesser craftworlds cosumed by Ynnead
Xavier Clark
[Citation needed]
That's a lot of bullshit.
Parker Hill
Where were those leaks?
I'm really surprised they'd call this the Fracture of Biel Tan and sweep under the rug several craftworlds like that.
Not that I really care, they're filthy xenos.
Julian Williams
>That's a lot of bullshit. >shill in denial
Ryan King
Well we know Iyanden gets invaved.
To be fair the other Craftworlds, Ibraeysil, Ymeloc, Saimhann have literally lost every battle they've ever been in so it ddoesn't really matter if they're still around, they can'd do anything
Austin Thomas
dude where did you get that info from? because in the wd leak with papa smurf it only says that biel-tan was splintered into a fleet and iyanden had to endure another attack, but no mention of "souls consumed by ynnead" on the other craftworlds.
Eli Lewis
Actually, he gave orders to the Dark Eldars to destroy the Imperium just to get power hungry Archons killed.
Grayson Price
He's right though. You can't claim somethibg like that and bot back it up. Once again, before the actual release of FoC and even afterwards, people would claim bullshit happens when it wasn't even mentionned or lies like how Cawl and the Pylons destroyed Cadia.
As long as we don't see picture of the damned book saying what is claimed, it has as much credence as me saying Slaanesh is actually going to marry Ynnead and make plenty of warp storm babies.
James Johnson
>dude where did you get that info from? Sources about Ynnari and Ynnead. >but no mention of "souls consumed by ynnead" on the other craftworlds. Ulthwe and Alaitoc circuits were consumed in the last moment before craftworlds felt against daemons, survivors joined to Ynnari
Carter Wright
>As long as we don't see picture of the damned book saying what is claimed It's from incomming book.
Caleb Long
even though we're on Veeky Forums, we're also on Veeky Forums. this means he is most probably a troll.
Jayden Myers
Is Biel-tan and Commorragh being destroyed not enough for you? Is losing the battle again not enough for you?
For goodness sake we just had Death Masque will you only be satisfied when all Eldar are dead?
Jack Smith
Yes and as I said, show us pictures and then we'll believe you.
Jace Foster
>Sources about Ynnari and Ynnead.
fucking hell can you be even more unspecific please? because that isn't saying anything at all.
all we have is the summary of events from the wd march leakage and it only mentions biel-tan fractured and iyanden attacked, nothing of the other bullshit you are constantly spouting.
Hunter Reed
The WD says Biel-Tan is destroyed
Joseph Cooper
>, show us pictures and then we'll believe you. Who "we"? The spoilers(not rumors) were posted few days ago here
Colton James
>For goodness sake we just had Death Masque will you only be satisfied when all Eldar are dead?
Yes.
I'm being inquisitive because I don't trust people here agter the shitshow that FoC was. 3 weeks were needed before people stopped spouting bullshit.
Which is why I ask for proof, because I do believe Biel Tan being fractured is more than enough. They wouldn't kill other Craftworlds just like that.
Jaxson Roberts
>They wouldn't kill other Craftworlds just like that. Because..?
Jaxson Rogers
So its fine for Eldar to lose Death masque, Bieltan andd Commoraggh?
But Imperials just losee Cadia and that is?
Nathaniel Sullivan
it says it's fractured into a fleet after yvraine destroys it's heart.
David Baker
I have the WD open on my lap and it says "fragmented".
Hunter White
>it says it's fractured into a fleet after yvraine destroys it's heart. yeah that's means all seers and other leaders consumed by Ynnead so as infinite circuit. >fractured into a fleet Into different corsairs warbands
Camden Powell
You know damn right it's not over ya git.
And what's this? Some childish bullshit where we compare who loses the most? Even then, the setting is about Mankind, not Eldars.
Josiah Johnson
>it says "fragmented". So what? it also says that: - All leaders died - Infinity circuit was destroyed - Biel Tan aren't one fleet anymore, only separate small packs
Zachary Robinson
Read it again. There is a line in it which explicitly goes 'it takes a cataclysmic event-the destruction of bieltan and the death of much of its population'
Carson Jenkins
>it's not over ya git. For Eldars it's over, since they doesn't have any role in setting.
Levi Morgan
Oh really? You think Eldar are gonna get another book where they actually win some fights for a change? Get real
Ynnead's come out and this is it. All Ynnead's goona do is suck Imperial dick well the Eldar lose, again, like they do in every single fucking story
Sorry that I actually want the Eldar to win a battle
Cameron Robinson
I have it in French and the translation can be wonky.
In any case it wasn't the question. No one argued it was fine and dandy. Just that it it didn't disapear into oblivion and being completely destroyed, while the other Craftworlds aren't destroyed at all.
Connor Rodriguez
This seems... extreme.
What the hell is happening, does someone have a link to a giid breakdown of all the recent shit? I've been out of the lore for like 6 months and all of a sudden Primarchs are walking the galaxy and the Eldar are no longer a faction?
Gavin Robinson
do we already know why ynnead goes against biel tan?Is it because biel tan refuses to support the new god?
Lucas Gonzalez
WD explicitly states Biel-Tan is destroyed, uses that exact word, what else do you want?
For fucks sake all I'm asking is that the Eldar actually have a meaningful victory for once
Jose Martin
biel-tan is being invaded by deamons, as stated in the leaks. maybe it's yvraine's only option to destroy its heart.
John Howard
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Jack Richardson
>do we already know why ynnead goes against biel tan? Because they were khainites
Tyler Thomas
>and the Eldar are no longer a faction? that's just retards spazzing out
fall of cadia (already out) fracture of biel tan (coming out in a week) and rise of the primarch (beginning of march)
Are the books with very important things happening in them. Eldar are just getting a new faction and branch of worship (death cultists of ynnead) who are kind of messing up the traditional eldar/dark eldar communities to establish themselves, though Halrequins, Dark Eldar and Craftworld Eldar still exist as separate factions.
Samuel Jenkins
Good ridance. waited that for 20 years.
Charles Adams
Fuck they killed the only badass Craftworld to replace us with some Ultramarine groupies
Eli Smith
There's no proofs other Craftworlds other than Biel Tan are destroyed. Chill.
Here's a summary of Fall of Cadia.
Probably because they were known as one of the most militaristic and rigid Craftworld. Suddenly some random no name claiming to be THE CHOSEN ONE comes around and says you need to sacrifice the Infinity Circuit for something that may or may not work? Easy to see why they'd say no.
Jayden Turner
>implying biel tan eldar are still around, now they're just mad as fuck and in a bunch of smaller fleets instead of one craftworld
Connor Campbell
yvraine hails from biel-tan. she's only a dark eldar by choice.
David Lewis
When do Eldar get to win a battle? Please.
Zachary Barnes
>Oh really? You think Eldar are gonna get another book where they actually win some fights for a change? Get real
No, they wont because they were and always will be the jarjar of 40k. Tertiary, useless character with occasional appearance at best. 40k is about humans
>Eldar Winning kek, are you high or something ? Buy some space marines if you want to be relevant.
Ryan Sanchez
>, though Halrequins, Dark Eldar and Craftworld Eldar still exist as separate factions Except they didn't exist anymore, Commoragh and craftworlds destroyed, only few small and separate warbands remains, Ynnari for now only one existing faction and it's larger than unimportant.
Adrian King
>For fucks sake all I'm asking is that the Eldar actually have a meaningful victory for once
Hopefully this will never happen and halal-dari will be squatted
Jaxon Phillips
Yes, we've already established that you're one of the hysterical morons spazzing out.
Samuel Richardson
>There's no proofs other Craftworlds other than Biel Tan are destroyed. Chill. Nice try shill, but fracture of biel tan literally says that Ulthwe and Alaitoc was attacked by Chaos, so as Yanden which now have only 1% of population
John Evans
So just a question, where is the best place to get a general overview of all 40K lore- not 1d4chan, I've read all that stuff on the armies, I want a larger overview. Thanks for any help.