EDH/Commander General

>What is a pet card you try to include no matter how efficient it may be?

This card. Even if it helps my opponents more sometimes, I always incuded it on my green decks.

I have a confession to make. I never realized until a few days ago that there people in this art, I thought for years they were just trees or background objects.

I know Pia and Kiran isn't a great commander, but I'd like some constructive criticism on this or any of my decks:

tappedout.net/mtg-decks/abusing-chandras-dead-parents/

tappedout.net/mtg-decks/chandra-and-the-kaladesh-flames/

>What is a pet card you try to include no matter how efficient it may be?
Sol Ring

Nah, it's actually Withered Wretch

Arguably you're not even playing EDH at that point, you're playing vintage "I win" combo
Most of the tables I sit down at won't play with you at all if you are winning turn 3 desu senpai

Should I build Adun Oakenshield, Selvala Explorer Returned, or Hanna, Ships Navigator?
Having a hard time deciding. Who is the most competitive? I have pieces for each but also whos deck is going to cost the most just due to the price of the staples you need to build it?

to fill the deck I should get some warriors/knights/soldiers with protection and some instants that can either kill stuff or buff my soldiers.
for the blue part I could get some strategic tapping and return to hand stuff that feels like "le mastermind strategist"
and for the green I could put some auras and other druids that feel like noble hierarch, but I feel like the auras(at least the ones I got) are too far away from the white part of the green

I may put some kithkin or some dwarves from ghirapur, but I'll probably stay away from elves though, those guys are boring.

>What is a pet card you try to include no matter how efficient it may be?
My nigga Thrun. Probably my favorite card in all of Magic.

No my Krenko deck blows up T5. My playgroup just had to adapt to my decks blowing up T4-5 and now they win T3-4.
Or at the very least focus the ever living fuck outta me.

>Cheap
>On curve
>Relatively efficient instant speed yard hate
>Relevant tribe

I can dig it.

>What is a pet card you try to include no matter how efficient it may be?

For everything except exile he's just gonna keep coming back.

I forgot to ask anything in there, sorry.

am I going on the right direction?

Forgot my pic.

>running Eldrazi displacer over Nim Deathmantle in Breya
ignoring the fact that you should be running both, why the fuck would you run a creature eldrazi over an artifact with a commander who's crazy strong with artifact reanimation?

Infiltration lens and pic related?

friend recently tried to get me out of my slump by getting me back into magic. gifted me the UG ezuri deck fresh in the box because I thought he looked cool.

The group we play with on saturdays has been cool about it but I can tell they're using lower powered decks to try and match me and after 3 weeks I'm sure they're tired of that so I would like to bring the power level of the deck up a lot. I have a few hundred to blow since I've got nothing else to spend money on.

Can anyone recommend some must haves for this guy?

Impressive, I might run Tenacious Dead now

>Infiltration Lens

Not bad at all, thank you.

I really like knight of the reliquary, eternal witness and dauntless escort. If you like knights with protection there's always mirran crusader and paladin en-vec. Some other great utility guys are dauntless escort, edric spymaster of trest (even tho hes an elf), geist of saint traft and trygon predator.

I don't play simic, but I see Sage of hours and champion of lambholt in a lot of decks that get posted here. There also fairly budget so i would include them.

I can't think of any must haves, but Mycoloth seems to synergize well with him.

Also this

Nice quads and out of curiosity, why take this over, say, Reassembling Skeleton?

Quite spicy indeed.

It's different than my rafiq deck, and basically that's a good thing
I focus more on trying to falcon punch opponents in one swing with rafiq
If you wanna go tribal humans/knights/soldiers with it that's great. My list looks more like the edhrec list. I can try to type it up into tappedout but it may take a minute

It was the first skeleton I got, I think in the M14 black intro deck. Reassembling might be better but this holds a special place in my heart.

Fair enough, more power to ya.

Hornet Queen is crazy good. Crystalline Crawler, too. +1/+1 counters has a LOT of support, so you're really spoiled for choice with these decks.

>What is a pet card you try to include no matter how efficient it may be?
I always run some of these

Can someone please give me suggestions on this list? Improvements to the list and criticism are welcome. This is my first EDH decklist.

tappedout.net/mtg-decks/hanna-ships-navigator-enchantment-control/

Love this card.

your link doesn't work. How's that for criticism?

I cant access the site right now. It just gives me the page with the ornithopters.

tappedout is down, it seems.

This is really cool. Definitely gonna find room for it in my Gwafa Control deck

>not using the best art

thought you were joking until I tried my own links. Well that's a drag.

Tappedout is down for maintenance I think

thankfully I have a lot of those cards already
I'll see where I can get finest hour, sublime and the geist

no need to type it if it's going to be any trouble

I'm not sure I wanna go for a tribal thing with lots of "[creature type] gets [a lot of abilities]"
I'm getting a deck full of "everyone gets [something]" type of abilities.
it'll end up being about normal guys going heroic, and rafiq is there mainly because he is heroic and a symbol to the army.

I'm figuring out some "core" cards(other than the ones said before)
so far I have
>court street denizen
>brigitte, kinsbale heroin
>dragonscale general
>archetype of courage(and planning on adding the other archetypes, if they fit)
>anafenza's spirit
>odric lunarch marshall
>eidolon of countless battles

it won't be based on creature type, but rather on stuff that everyone benefits from
this thing builds itself

Oh freaking no
I spent like 20 min writing up my rafiq deck and tappedout goes down for maintentence no warning
I think I lost all my progress. Sad face.

I get rewarded for being lazy and not putting my 3rd commander deck up there yet

Well tappedout is down right now so I can't post mine. Living Hive is good, also recommend hooded hydra and chasm skulker for their inevitable deaths, freyalise llanowar's fury for the dorks, fathom mage to refill your hand, etc. I avoid running infect except for Viral Drake mainly for the proliferate and with the proper setup you can kill by commander dmg without even buffing ezuri

is infect still 10 counters to lose in commander?

Well my list looks basically like this + or - a few things and without the lands

rafiq of the many

finest hour
qasali pridemage
noble hierarch
sublime archangel
battlegrace angel
baneslayer angel
mirari's wake
mirran crusader
hero of bladehold
brimaz, king of oreskos
path to exile
swords to plowshares
rhystic study
fact or fiction
sol ring
sensei's divining top
umezawa's jitte
control magic
wrath of god
martial coup
thrun, the last troll
mother of runes
knight of the reliquary
solemn simulacrum
phyrexian metamorph
dauntless escort
sigarda, host of herons
stoneforge mystic
glen elendra archmage
tamiyo, field researcher
sylvan library
sower of temptation
azorius signet
selesnya signet
simic signet
mana crypt
mana vault
batterskull
sword of fire and ice
sword of feast and famine
sword of war and peace
day of judgment
supreme verdict
birthing pod
green sun's zenith
enlightened tutor
chord of calling
acidic slime
sovereigns of lost alara
eldrazi conscription
rancor
trygon predator
cryptic command
counterspell
krosan grip
yavimaya elder
lightning greaves
cultivate
kodama's reach
propaganda
geist of saint traft
austere command
sylvan reclamation
consecrated sphinx

>Sol ring is still not banned.

This is getting sad.

yes

That's never, EVER going to happen.

The best we can hope for is Mana Crypt to be banned.

woah, thanks
I'll copypaste that into some place I can see the cards better
I'm currently browsing white cards only and listing them, I'm at 17 and I think it's enough
I'll go for a 60 cards +40 lands, but I'm not even sure of the proportion
I have a tendency to hoard creatures in my decks

yes

So I guess tapped out is down. Pastebin it is!

Sorry if this isn't in some kinda order.

pastebin.com/DMkvmDNN

Me mizzix build

>What is a pet card you try to include no matter how efficient it may be?
Crawlspace goes in almost every single deck I build.

>What is a pet card you try to include no matter how efficient it may be?

blessing of leeches goes to all of my decks that have black in it.

So a friend of mine wants to play jin gitaxias but another freind says it makes the game unfun, whats Veeky Forums take on it? Is Jin fun?

Making a Hope voltron deck. Need advice on what to cut.

mtgvault.com/phobes365/decks/ghira-voltron-edh/

yes, sage of hours was the first card the group recommended I buy, so I did. it's one of a small handful of singles I've added to the deck so far

mycoloth is another one of those i've added, doubling the exp counters each turn is crazy

thanks, i'm sure I can cut some chaff for those. I've noticed the out of the box deck had a lot of cards that didn't seem to go with the strategy, and some just weren't really good at all. are all the prebuilt decks like that?

living hive looks cool but it seems kind of expensive. is infect frowned upon in commander? someone mentioned something about a lot of ezuri decks winning by infect but they didn't show me any particular cards. I wasn't playing during mirrodin 2.0 so I'm not familiar with infect cards.

one of the guys in the group traded me a panharmonicon and a skullclamp for the command beacon that came with the deck and they've both been crazy good in the games i've drawn them

Shattering Pulse. So efficent. So resourceful.

>have dozens of potential generals
>my collection is crap and every single pile is badly sub-optimal

He's a big effect, so fun for the guy who gets him out. Other people don't enjoy it, but that's because they're either bad at saving answers or just got wrecked and they weren't done building their hugbox.

Infect isn't wholly frowned upon but many people still like to make house rules by bumping infect loss from 10 to 20. Also gyre sage is great for him.

>got panharmonicon and skullclamp for command beacon

Should've kept the beacon and bought the panharm yourself

unless the Jin player puts ton of ramp or infinity mana combos in the deck he will have hard time even getting him out.

honestly even if he did get him out he will eat removal faster than pretty much any other creature in the game

I just searched about 15 pages of white cards for my rafiq deck, and I got little more than 20 potential creatures

I'll weed it out(probably) but I still need some samples of blue and green creatures to put in the mix, preference for humans and spirits/elementals/magicbeings that represent humans and their characteristics

for spells I'll mostly go to stuff that interacts with auras and other stuff, I'm not so concerned about it right now
I'll probably have a shitty response capability, though

so i was holding a rather large of magic cards at my local game store today behind a couple neckbeards that i know from when i played on the pro tour with my team in years younger. It was the only pod with an open seat so there wasnt much of an option to try out my sweet Sachi, Daughter of Seshiro brew for a party i was heading to. i was wondering why the game was going nowhere when i decided to poke my snake shaman up front to see what the delay was. it was a cyclonic rift but the jin-gitaxias player didn't have enough mana for the overload and was trying to talk the judge into letter him get away with being short. this struck me as odd until i found out she was mere 1/2 mana short of her spell. now all these players were just staring and there were even two making fun of him. i walked up and handing my sachi deck to the judge, handed him a storm ctow and told him to keep the change. one of the neckbeards (i knew these people, so i also knew that they play original dual lands in their edh decks) grabbed their body pillow and yelled very loudly, "see that man? he's acting just like maro wants us to." for some reason this set me off, so i turned around. i havent shaved in a while so im rocking some nice scruff, a tolarian community college shirt (DAE Dollar?), and gym shorts, so it must have been a nice sight. very loudly, i said "like maro? m'lady im an atheist who plays saffron olive budget modern decks and i was the one who stepped up to help them? your hypocritical new world order is an inspiration to us all." as i stormed off, a couple of the drafters started to whistle and cheer, soon standard players joined in and even the owner. i tapped a land and went off with a feeling of accomplishment

Idyllic tutor and Enlightened tutor are your friend. Also I'd suggest if your going for an aura or enchantment theme you also invest in a Serra's Sanctum. They're still relatively cheap in comparison to Gaea's Cradle which is now something like $150

i would cut hope of ghirapur

Every single time I can, I slot this card.

Jin-Git is fun if you enjoy bathing in the abject misery and rage of the table

personally I like him because I got him foil along with the black praetor on the same booster during new phyrexia pre release

I never played him(he's more of a sentimental value card for me) but I'm pretty sure he makes the game unfun.

I think anyone that complains about Jin has one of two problems. 1 You are playing a pussy casual deck that you say is "fun" but it's just full of shit cards or 2 you don't run any answers in your deck and because of this deserve to get punished by the ability

tappedout.net/mtg-decks/05-02-17-falcon-punch/
Here's the tappedout list. I made a few cuts like brimaz and I might consider cutting geist of saint traft as well, as he doesn't like getting blocked by most things in the format. By the way tappedout is back up for anyone wondering

>Opponent gets to 10 mana with that guy in the command zone
>Let's not hold up removal for it!
Idiots.

You could try doing like a phyrexian artifact vault themed deck. Use old artifacts from before 8th edition that have counters. The old stockpile lands and what not. Run the new phyrexia proliferate cards to fuel the ancient artifacts that give you the advantage. That's at least what I'd do if I was trying to build a unique Atraxa

Makes for a decent voltron commander. Uncounterable, untargetable, regenerating. Throw some nice equipment on him and give him evasion and you got yourself a quick 21 damage.

Reposting:

Probably taking out Seismic Spike for something like Fervor. Anything else I need to consider for a super budget vehicles deck?

Don't mind me, just being dumb and not posting the list:

tappedout.net/mtg-decks/04-02-17-wr-vehicles/

Gyre Sage, if you're looking for a shit ton of green mana

Well, they're different colours all so kind of a weird question, but I assume you're going the stax route. I would give my vote for Hanna, she's absolutely wonderful.

Selvala is also a lovely lady, but she plays entirely different kind of deck and I feel like she isn't very competitive because of the card draw unless you have a way to limit your opponent casting spells reliably.

Oakenshield seems okay too, but if you're doing stax, I would rather use either Shattergang Bros. or Karrthus as a finisher, but if colour shift doesn't matter, I could recommend Karador, he plays pretty similarly to Oakenshield, but is in different colours and is more efficient.

Overall though, I'd say Hanna is the best one, but I never had any experience with Oakenshield. Afterall, enchantments and artifacts are the best permanent types there is.

I run jinjan augur man as my almost colorless deck commander. It's mana rocks and eldrazi with 20 islands and 3 blue spells (including commander)

My old colorless eldrazi deck was fun but ran out of gas constantly. I even tried both kozileks as commander but. ..it wasn't enough.

Jin is amazing at the lead

Yes. You want to do like me and build Skittles. Include Unspeakable Symbol and cackle as you win combat forever and seize whenever someone kills your creature after all the life you paid.
>tfw you pay 39 life and you get Gut Shotted

Hey, /edhg/, can any of you tell me the best way to build Sydri without using infinite combo cheese? My group can't handle that playstyle, but I still want to build her.

Do I run Panharmonicon in Sakashima or no?

Because it looks like it makes sense in theory...

Lattice and destroy all lands

Do you run a lot of ETB effects? Then yes. I wouldn't depend on opponents running them.

Make it an Oloro lifegain deck but without Oloro.
>robots that get lifelink and either attack or ping
>pingers that get deathtouch to control the board
>various other incidental life gain effects like pristine talisman and shit
>payoffs like the aetherflux death star or karlov
Should be causal and janky enough fun. Probably a bit inconsistent but you're in good colors for tutor, control and card draw.

I have this annoying friend in my play group who uses Meren of Clan Nel Toth and spore frog. My no creature Narset can get around it with extra turns, but how can I deal with it with say, an Atraxa deck?

>How do I deal with [Thing Meren does]

Pack more graveyard hate.

Pack more tutors to get your graveyard hate.

Firstly, you go to your nearest river and drown yourself for playing Narset.

Secondly, Grave hate.

What is the best grave hate? Instant speed?

I don't understand, even if you don't pack grave hate, just kill their spore frog eot.

Or keep killing Meren. 6 mana fogs aren't good, and 8 mana fogs are atrocious.

>What is the best grave hate?

Rest in Peace.

Also Relic of Progenitus.

atraxa really likes scavenging ooze. which I think is even in the precon, but maybe that's another deck. there's also necrogenesis, bojuka bog, night soil, rest in peace, nihil spellbomb, relic of progenitus, grafdiggers cage, cranial archive and others. But i prefer cards that do more than only hate on raveyards.

Bojuka Bog is great and Rakdos Charm works wonders as well

>Rakdos Charm
>In Atraxa