>The Black Library (Can someone get Gulliman to get us a new copy of the codex astartes, Farsight refuses to return our only copy) mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q
I can always just move my guys onto the field on my table edge, or the 2 short edges?
What if im playing Hammer and Anvil and the short edge is my opponents?
Jose Johnson
You go on his side.
There's another rule that lets you do that too.
Julian Fisher
DA BEAST better come an stomp dem humies and spiky boyz
Luis Ramirez
>if able to do so
Scout and infiltrators can roll in on a flank, and anything with Deepstrike can Deepstrike.
Jacob Young
Awuuuuuu
Jack King
So, its just letting me use deepstrike and outflanking on turn 1? Do I still have to roll for reserves?
The wording is absolutely fucked
Luis Perry
it needs the other wolf on the chariot
John Bell
This sounds like a custom mission not formation/dt bonus. "Eldar player" obviously suggest it, its wording used in campaign missions.
Noah James
your table edge and opponents table edge are self explanatory, short edge are the sides. this wording suggests that the units you would be moving on are in reserves, and that you would not have to roll for them.
Elijah Edwards
Ah, I see
Kayden Jackson
You should read it again. I don't see what's so hard about it.
>Hold everything in reserve >T1, being in as many things from reserve as you want >scouts and infiltrators can outflank >this means they can come in from a table edge >jump units, raiders, ect have Deepstrike >this means they can Deepstrike >anything you didn't bring in stays in reserve >roll for reserves on T2 as normal
Jose Bell
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Dylan Edwards
> Start playing 40k like two months ago > Love it > Go crazy buying/building/painting models > Am finally at the point where my Army is big enough that I can start looking at Formations and their various benefits
Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit this is awesome
Elijah Edwards
This is it, seeing as it also refers to your table edge separate from the "short" table edges, implying the board setup is pre-determined
Jose Sanchez
Sail on sailor, dont let anyone bring you down, try as they will
Caleb Harris
I'm so glad I did this
Samuel Morris
Does anyone have a scan of Fall of Cadia? Or at the very least a scan of Cawl's full rules, not just those boxed with the mini?
Connor Collins
Reminder that the Night Lords theme song has been found at long last
FAQ: >Dubstep is gay lol? Dubstep suits many chaotic factions as it is fairly chaotic Also this song is hardly Dubstep
>I listened to three seconds and I thought it was shit? No, you are shit. Try lasting longer than you do in bed next time, before giving a review
>If this music isn't to my personal taste, does that mean it is the wrong song for the Night Lords? No
>ITS NOT METAL I CAN SHAKE MY NECKBEARD TO???? Metal music doesn't suit chaos, this isn't the 80s. The Night Lords have evolved a lot in the last 8-10 years, so get on board or fuck off. Metal only really suits World Eaters, even then, probably Hardcore.
>My Emps Children love the shit metal though!!! No, your structured music would bore them to death. Please read current fluff, not your 80s shit
>LOL LOOK MY SHIT SONG ABOUT BATS OR LIGHTNING IS FUNNY *Pat pat* nice original joke, friend
>Does the above point apply for any of my other "funny" song ideas? Yes.
>I know more about music than you because that is brostep, not dubstep Doesn't change the fact that it is the correct song for the Night Lords
Luis Morgan
I want a 10 bikers Ravenwing Black Knights squad but I'm a poorfag. (That would be around 130€) I will use normal ravenwing bikes from eBay (they're cheap because of Dark Vengeance) and convert them into Black Knights. Give me ideas on how to convert them, please Need to have: > Plasma Talon > Corvus Hammers > Badass look > remain cheap What do?
Bentley Bell
What do I equip on my exalted sorcerers to make them worth fielding? What about my scarab occult terminators? If possible, what about my rubrics?
It seems there are some formations which are basically "1-X units of Y", which seems fairly convenient if you were planning on taking Y, since now it's a separate formation and doesn't take up a slot in a CAD.
Brody Ramirez
I am guessing Orks. Have you found their theme song yet?
Jose Ward
He's actually autistic. Just filter him.
Oliver Sullivan
careful, some of those arent formations, but parts of the decurion. Formations that can be taken by themselves always have their own page.
Aiden Anderson
Is there no way to make them decent with 40k WoM/Traitors rules?
>"We have come you" for spoke the marine, in the spookiest voice he could >As he spoke the Night Lord fondled his hedge clipper impatiently >"But first let me play you the song of my legion!" >WUB WUB WUUUUUUB! WUB WUB wub Wub >The user before him fell to his knees >"Stop please, I beg you! Its so shit!" >The Night Lord sparked the throttle on his hedge clipper, its throaty roar merely added to the cacophony of shit musical taste >"Kill Me, Kill Me now! I can't stand it anymore!" Screamed user >"Another metal head user." wept the Night Lord, his tears half drowning him in his helmet >The hedge clipper made short work of user. But soon other anons heard the shit music >And the cycle repeated
Christian Johnson
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Aaron Robinson
of course there is they'll just be entirely situational like 90% of the units in 40k.
Noah Hernandez
You can savage people in fluffy games, but thats it.
Gabriel Green
>Its another Veeky Forums tells new Ork players to field Boys and Trukks edition
Robert Ortiz
wat
There hasnt been a single mention of boyz or trukks in the thread so far
Isaiah Rodriguez
Ork players can field whatever they want and like. If you are only looking competitive lists for Orks, you are doing Orks wrong. Bloody git.
William Reed
They're I2, you've got to wait a couple of posts.
Oliver Sanders
>YFW you realise the only advice the Ork player has received is to find a theme song
Jason Morgan
Hoping Deldar get something that isn't just "plug craftworlders into your army to make it work properly"
Blake Myers
>Ork players can field whatever they want >Why do Ork players do nothing but whine!
Difference between competitive builds, working builds, and the shit Veeky Forums suggests like Boys and Trukks.
Is it worth giving my NL Raptor champ a power sword or claw? For now, I'm only running them as two squads of 5 with meltas, but I can still charge transport occupants.
Asher Miller
Thanks for your opinion. It is wrong, but any contribution is appreciated.
Nathaniel Diaz
Power Sword, use chain glaive from FW to represent it, no one will question it because Rule of Cool.
That or go two claws, but that gets expensive.
Jayden Allen
Oh, I know. Thank you though. I'm going through the Angels of Death book right now, checking out different datasheets for things. Gotta get some more mechanized units.
Space Marines. I even came up with my own custom chapter. I'm a basic bitch I guess. I thought about Orks, but everyone told me they were fun to model but godawful on the table. I like some of their stuff though. If you were big into conversions/kitbashing/etc they seem like they would be the perfect army.
Speaking of conversions, good lord who designed the dual treads on the Tauroxes? They look ridiculous unless you throw some actual wheels on them.
Grayson Miller
I would love a pair of claws, but like you said, expensive. CSM don't even get the discount for the pair, so it's 30pts on a 1W model.
I could use a glaive. I need some for 30k anyway. It would be sweet if they could actually take them, though.
Logan Carter
Also I don't play Orks, it was just easier to find a picture of an Ork smiling than it was to find a picture of a Space Marine smiling.
Take that how you will.
Cameron Smith
What chapter?
Landon Lee
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Benjamin Fisher
Plays as Iron Hands. I like walkers and mobile armor so that seemed like a natural fit. I thought about going IG instead since their tanks were way better statwise, but I figured the last thing I needed while I was learning how to paint minis was a horde army.
Brandon Roberts
FEMALE SPACE MARINE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Easton Jones
There's a full tank army you can play with only a few Mech Vets for objectives and shit. (30-40 dudes total.)
Imperial Armour, Armoured Battle Group.
Brandon James
much meme very humerus.
Connor Ortiz
Is there anyone who is actually bothered by the thought of Female space marines here? I mean i think the general consensus is not that we hate the idea its just its not necessary in the game to have females represented in every role.
Jeremiah Jenkins
Eye of Ezekiel novel Dying Lion Azrael has to beg Cypher for help Ezekiel possessed and no one detects it Truly the gay legion is the home of evil degeneracy- just like that Breitbart bumfucker
Jacob Brown
There is a good in-universe reason why there aren't any. The hate of female space marines is just the logical reaction to the push for female space marines by others. If geneseed were fluffed differently right from the start I don't think anyone would mind.
James Ramirez
Yeah but I couldn't have afforded that while I was just starting off.
> Is there anyone who is actually bothered by the thought of Female space marines here? I mean i think the general consensus is not that we hate the idea its just its not necessary in the game to have females represented in every role.
I think it's more like dudes feel that women and/or "gender politics" are intruding on all of their hobbies while simultaneously attempting to shame them for having fun, and they find tabletop wargaming to be one of the last few predominantly male safe spaces that they have left. It's easy to see how people could be defensive about it.
Jeremiah Morales
Thats what i meant there is no reason to change the fluff just to fit something irrelevant and that no one here is actually autisticaly bothered by just the idea.
Juan Price
The Beast lost
Ian James
>last few predominantly male safe spaces that they have left.
Jackson Collins
The thought no, the noisy people clamouring to pound that square peg into 40k, yes.
What I AM bothered by is the insistence that female space marines after extensive enhancements, bulking, hormone treatments and layers of sloped armour wold be identifiable as female.
Connor Hall
Know what's better than a space Marine? A fucking temple assassin.
Christian Lee
>Safe Space What now? Going were a safety pin, since Trump won?
If you want a safe space go to a university where those stupid things are in place.
Cuck
Connor Evans
Exactly i agree with you entirely but lets not derail this thread any harder than its starting to get. On a scale of 1-10 how bad do you think that craftworld eldar is going to become the old eldar cheese?
Eli Fisher
> Videogames > Sports > Computers > Role Playing > etc
Tons of traditional "guy hobbies" have seen a large infusion of females over the past decade or so and have changed as a result. Whether or not that is a good thing is a subject for a completely different thread.
Tabletop wargaming is the grognardiest of hobbies, some dudes see how other hobbies have changed and they don't want to see that sort of change in wargaming.
Michael Gomez
What?
Jeremiah Young
Safe Space in the metaphorical sense you dumbass, not in the physical "I'm a 20 year old co-ed and some guy smiled at me in the cafeteria and now I need a place to cry for 3 hours about how I was stare-raped" kind of safe space.
William Sullivan
Woah, calm down oh triggered one. Put down the swastika coffee mug and just focus on painting your little mans like the rest of us.
Cooper Reed
On a scale of 1-10 how bad do you think the old eldar cheese is going to be compared to the new eldar cheese
Jaxson Morris
It was your description of it as a "safe space" for guys that made me laugh.
Come on, user, fucking hell that's gay, and I'm a literal faggot who plays Eldar.
Connor Parker
In universe they make no sense.
Model wise? Still do not make sense since they would look just like male marines.
Also at this scale unless you for something like SoB. With big boobs on the armour and noticible waist from afar you won't notice shit.
Look at any miniature model at this scale, unless they have huge boobs or a very define waist model armour parts you won't notice it. Unless well the model is naked.
SoB make sense in universe and the boob and waist armour work perfectly to show they are women.
Unless you go out of your way to show they are women you end with things like Victorian miniatures alternative guardsmen, that unless you look very closely men and women look the same under combat fatigues.
Robert Fisher
Yes, Space Marines are supposed to be hyper masculine soldiers, masculinity is a big part of their identity. Also there's the fact that they were designed to be physically superior soldiers, and although there are very strong and fit women out there, it's simple biological fact that the most physically strong men (and Space Marines only take the very best remember) will always be stronger, by a large margin, than the most physically strong women. A female space marine would have to by necessity be written as a "man with boobs" to avoid ruining the space marine identity in which case, what's the point?
Female guardsmen I'm all cool with. Hell I'd like to see an all female regiment, and I wish GW would put out female Cadians (inb4 Cadia is kill)
Bentley Price
> Literal faggot > Plays Eldar
I believe it.
You gonna get Gangs of Commorragh?
Speaking of boxed games, are any of the 40K ones any good? Space Hulk looks like fun but is spendy as hell, but what about stuff like Lost Patrol and the assassins one?
Henry Thomas
Did you saw this ? He is a massive cuck.
I was just shitposting but damn he was actually serious.
Justin Hernandez
>what's the point Cause its biologically possible and in a galaxy covered in bizare alterations and outcomes arising from different planetary conditions acknowledging it helps flesh out the setting?
Personally I have no burning desire to see female Space Marines, I'd rather have SoB Boob plate get removed. I just find it totally puzzling how much of a conniption Veeky Forums throws over the idea
Jeremiah Morgan
Yeah, even if it's just for Jetbikes for my Ynnari force.
Looks like a fun little game though.
Jose Barnes
> Calls someone a cuck unironically
/pol/ is that way, friendo
Andrew Smith
>I'd rather have SoB Boob plate get removed
Landon Price
REMINDER TO REMOVE YNNARI WHEN SIGHTED!
THEY ARE KINSLAYING, DEAMON WORSHIPPING BASTARDS THAT DESTROYED BIEL TAN!
REMOVE YNNARI!
Leo Gomez
Don't you mean Gangs of the Daemon infested ruins of Commorragh?
Justin Ross
Yeah I think its unnecessary and ugly
Caleb Sanders
Am I imagining things or do those Eldar rules seem even better than the stuff in the first Gathering Storm for the Imperium? Ynneari is certainly better than Greyfax as is their Triumvirate formation bonus. Their general utility also seems way more diverse and flexible than Cawl's and Celestine's rather basic "can't be killed" rules.
Connor Hernandez
Ynnari are the future of the Eldar race, Ynnead is the only hope.
Also can we call non Ynnari fucking heretics now?
Isaac Perez
>I'd rather have SoB Boob plate get removed It's an important part of their identity as Not-Men! under arms.
Christian Nguyen
It's not like Vect and the Covens didn't just make another one.
Ian Edwards
Don't worry, they make up for it by losing everything in fluff.
Its apparently a deal GW's design studio made with the fluff writers. Since the fluff writers are always only gonna crap on the Eldar, in return the Design Studio were allowed to make them OP in the Crunch until the Fluff gets better
Josiah Johnson
Who do you mean, Yvraine or the Yncarne?
John Nguyen
>Ynnead >future of the Eldar race Nah, it's Eldar race future food for Ynnead.
Kayden Thomas
No, that retarded imperial shit.
Luis Rogers
Oh right, meant Yvraine.
Dylan Gray
>Ynnead is the only hope for the Imperium
Nathaniel Rogers
Does the combined Aeldari list mean we can get Howling Banshees in Raiders now? Without having to pay an Allies tax or have them start out on foot?
Jason Taylor
>Nah, it's Eldar race future food for Ynnead. Are you having a stroke?
Juan Hernandez
I don't think it even is biologically possible to be honest with you, unless the female in question was some mutant in which case she might have a hard time getting picked to be a Space marine.
I used to think the same about SoB but then someone made a good point. The whole idea behind SoB is that they are not MEN at arms, they are women. So the armor is intentionally designed to show off their feminine features. Maybe this was originally so that their army would never be confused as male soldiers, and persists to this day as a symbolic thing. But I guess I can understand people getting upset about boobplate.
Brody Morgan
You could literally remove it and I wouldn't notice. The presence of giant moulded boobs on their armour has never stood out to me at all as an important part of their character compared to their religious imagery