If a character is, by nature, inherently intensively evil, only finding joy from hurting and killing other creatures...

To some it would justify the means, to others it does not. Going by DnD you'd be chaotic something, probably neutral.

Doing the right thing for the wrong reasons.
Or possibly lawfull evil.

No, the intentions behind the action matter. If you do something that results in good but only because of selfish reasons that doesn't make you a good person.

Otherwise, an Evil creature could accidentally become Good just out of unintended consequences of its actions which is nonsensical.

So that character does good
BECAUSE doing good will help others
BUT the character is also sadistic?

I'd say it's a good character with a character flaw. If they did good to secure a position of trust, or to avoid retaliation, while ultimately pursuing sadism - They'd be evil.

No no, it's doing the right thing for the right reason, but the action of DOING is very cruel of sadistic, even if it is doing the right thing.

>not because the character emotionally wants to but because it's logically the best outcome for everyone
Why does it care about achieving the best outcome for everyone if it's evil?

Good for the land, adheres to strict moral code, does good but is doing ti because he gets his jollies from torturing people and doing it to them over there means he gets away with it?
Is this a clever troll thread to start poltics?

Either way, Lawful evil, but will work with lawful neutrals and convert neutral and chaotic evils to his cause.
LE: "Dudes! My scheme means that we can drink in a tavern!"
CE: "Nice! And then rape the waitress!"
LE: "Knock yourself out."
Tomrrow morning the Lawful Evil is torturing the CE and gets away with it. Neutral evil saw the entire thing and is impressed and joins Lawful on his castration scheme.

Killing Evil creatures is an objectively Good act, and punishing them for their wicked deeds is just. The character's D&D alignment would be Lawful and Good.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who had warning lights going off

Anyway, according to Nasu, Kirei is Lawful Evil.

>thick sweaty asian qt

More like

LE: "Dudes! My scheme means that we can drink in a tavern!"
CE: "Nice! And then rape the waitress!"
LE: "Do that, and I will split your dick in two and hang you from the split parts in butcher's hooks until you bleed dry."

HHHNNNNNGGG THICCKKEEERRRRR

Just for you, user.

jessicababyfat

Good-aligned character with a mental disorder.
Sliiding back down to evil.

Basically the difference between whether motivation is attempting to do the world better vs finding ways to indulge in sadism.
Lithmus test would be whether he would engage in prolonger torture of an evil monster on the opportunity or if he would dispose of it quickly and move on to find the next problem that needs stabbing.

Nasu is a fucking retard in assigning alignments.

Close enough. Depends on whether or not LE wanted to catch the CE just before the attempt, appear the hero AND get to punish him, or is satisfied with threats. Up to personality honestly.

>he would engage in prolonger torture of an evil monster
That he would.
>move on to find the next problem that needs stabbing
And this right after.

Basically, both. With the level of torture matched to the cruelty and crimes of the monster being tortured.

How about "Morality is a spectrum and not some autistic grid designed by literal man children who've never once demonstrated skill in a STEM field or picked up a weight in their entire lives"?

That's...That's a pretty good answer, right?

Wait...

Is that /Sparrow/?

So, he would lose time on torturing rather than expedite the removal of evil from the world.
Ergo, his motivation is in sadism rather than in the well-doing.
So he is an evil guy that is kept on a leash rather than a good guy with a mental problem.

My 2 cents on this is
"The DnD alignments are shit for describing anything more than a 1 dimensional character."

the other one is

"Whichever you gain the most mechanical benefit from."
It's fucking DnD/PF. It's not like you do anything without having the intention of using it to maximize your build.

Serious answer, what direction do you want the character to evolve to? Heroic with a personality flaw? Slowly bur surely turning into what he is fighting? Abandoned by friends witohut understanding why they are upset?
And so on and so fourth. All the altenratives work.

Thanks

*forth

Ah yeah. Thanks. I'm shit at typing.

This. If you're going to use a super-simplistic, crunchy system, might as well take full advantage of it.
If you wanted moral nuances you wouldn't use a 3x3 grid.

Oh hey, OP read Incorruptible too.

You know sometimes I come to terms with my eternal virginity and autism.

I think, I can be forever alone if I can dedicate myself to science and live a comfortable life that way. Then OP has to post a pic of a woman like that and I feel like going full angry virgin.

I'd go join /r9k/ but they're a bunch of fuckers and I'm not about that life. Fuck you OP. Life is pain. I want off this ride.

Lawful Evil with strong neutral tendencies. In time, may graduate to Lawful Neutral

Also
>Muh Dick/10

I want to rape waitresses with CE

Actually user, the alignment system is literally an active force that makes all sentient beings adhere to a set of stereotypes.

When people go against this system, they end up dead, or thrown out of the D&D reality entirely, and end up as Vestiges, or simply cease to be.

Deities literally get saves against this, and most are not even aware of it, except for Pelor, hence his grey Knights.

Allegedly, the Alignment system is held up by paragons of each part of the spectrum, and if they go, the system goes, but without the system, Demons, aberrations, and a select number of Far Realm natives would be able to exist as they were, which is that "Above all your crap" eldritch horror bullshit, and these things get defaulted to CE to offset their actual Intellectual high ground features.

If you've played D&D enough you'll have noticed this immensely, Lawful evil sounds good, but the evil part almost seems unessary despite providing results, LG's are basicaly YHVH tier assholes, CE's want out of the universe are are reduced to psychopathic nihlistic asshats with self destruction in mind, and CG just is a gateway to a slippery slope.

The Egyptian Pantheon came from earth itself but KEK isn't present because he literally cannot exist in universe bu tthe collective meme that spawns him lays dormant, and this is why the Slaadi final evolutionary form is literally a Black Slaad, because it's the Darkness before the light, but the False laws in place prevent it from moving forward.

Technology in D&D is completely stunted because of the weave, and every instance of progress is shut-down completely

Even the fucking Outer Gods and Great Old ones are denied access and work through proxies to unravel this system, as it's a universe that Yog-sothoth doesn't recognise and thus, under his all too-common statement, means it doesn't exist, it's an orphaned reality.

Seek that life of science. You are being held back by yourself and your expectations of what you think you want.
Become interesting. Strive for excellency. Sooner than you would think you will find someone that will listen to your rant.

But you won't find them on Veeky Forums. You won't find them if you are angry. But you will find them in places where optimism and energy gathers. Like reasearch centres.

Seconding this. The year I decided to change my life, I became free, unlocked a higher state of consciousness, and hit that qt booty

You can step off at any time. Take comfort in knowing you suffer purely out of choice

It will be the hardest thing you have ever done. But suffering is easy. Anyone can engage a high CR encounter. Plan your level tree.

Start with applying to university or collage or whatevs. And not whatever you can get into. Apply for that dream university. Find out what you fail at, if you fail.
That thing is your next challenge. But this will take time. So sort out your other issues. Autism is not impossible to deal with. You can learn to identify your problematic behaviour and it will take energy and time. But you can learn how to read into difficult situations, you can cope and train away your anxieties.

It is possible. It has been done. You are not alone. I don't know where you live. But your goverment might have help groups or psych. If possible, get a handler to have someone getting paid to endure your shit so you can't scare them away. Feel confident in that your darkest thoughts are just thoughts.

Set your goals and meet them. One at a time. Small goals. Do the side quests first.

>"You will never understand my pain."

I don't know what you're talking about but I'm appreciating, thanks.

>Pic unrelated, but it got your attention
True. I thought it was a photo I posted on an /s/ Asian exes thread. It's not but uncanny.
Yes, that character is good. Both through actions and intentions.
Human nature often drives people to desire to do evil things, fighting that and being good is goodness. Not the absence of evil desires.

Why not science and booty?
I was like you, at 25 I was a 160kg virgin lab technician. Going nowhere, depressed and autistic af.
Nothing like rock bottom to spring off of.

It took hard work and dedication but neither are difficult if you know the other option is suicide. Really, what's worse; actually trying and trying your whole life, failing and dying anyway or quitting early like a fucking lazy bitch.

3 years later I've shedded 90kg, then put another 20kg of muscle on. I manage a laboratory of 30 staff, own two houses and slept with so many qts that OPs pic could be one of them and I wouldn't remember. I'm not saying be me but things can turn around, it's never too late.

This sounds like a bunch of bragging but it's an anonymous imageboard, who the fuck cares. The point is, it's encouragement, I'm not special, there's nothing I can do that you can't.

Don't give up on life but don't chase bitches either. Chase your dreams, be successful, be confident, be a better person. Not for anyone else, just for you.
They'll come running on their own. ;)

Dawgs

>do it for (you)
I think there's something to say here about memes trascending reality, but I can't find the word.

I like your post, user.

imgur.com/a/gsdCi

Just gonna leave this here
Real niggas recognize this link

Why would you post a link to a bunch of ugly ass black chicks in a thread dedicated to asian cuties, faggot?

If you are intentionally pursuing a cruel and sadistic methodology when there is one that is more humane available to you that yields a net same result, then yes you are still evil.

You're just applying your evil in productive ways (productivity being a facet irrelevant to both axis of alignment)

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You took the bait dumbass, not me, i just think black chicks are unattractive, sue me.

If you're willing to forgo your own joy for the sake of doing the right thing, that makes you Lawful and probably Good.
I like an Ideals system better myself, but yeah.

Nigga, you posting Orcs in a Elf thread.

Sounds like a Lawful Evil to me user.

>having a race preference when it comes to sexuality
Pic related is you. The world is full of qts from every race, no point in limiting yourself to one flavor.

I'm not limiting myself, I just dislike most examples of that particular race.

Mostly a neutral guy
youtube.com/watch?v=pqZXPX0CiQI

It's possible. You are loved. Help is out there. People don't hate you for no reason.

This man speaks truth and wisdom. Faggots who can't appreciate beauty should be quiet.

If I couldn't appreciate beauty, I'd be fucking black chick who hate themselves so much they have to do their hair like white women to get any dick from their own men.

>Pic related is you. The world is full of qts from every race, no point in limiting yourself to one flavor.
Right on, brother!

I know that feeling man.
I am so fucking lonely. It is driving me insane, slowly, but surely. Veeky Forums is basically 90% of all of my social contact with other people.

Lawful neutral

You basically just described Dexter, as well.

This.

Well isn't good and evil a manner of perspective? I'll use an exaggerated example.

"The king is good, he feeds the poor."
"The Duke is evil he wants the king to stop feeding the poor so they will starve."

Turns out the king is feeding the poor corpses from his conquests outside the kingdome, the Duke thinks it is heinous and wants to stop it. Is the king still good and the Duke still evil?

What if a character acts in a manner of self preservation, but is hated and loathed by the "good" guys? Was frankensteins monster evil?

I'm pretty poor with the alignment chart so maybe it's answered on there but I never found morality to be a black and white issue, justification can be found almost anywhere